[Q] Remove roam tower from list on phone? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When I force roaming on my phone, it is connecting to a Cellular South tower instead of a Verizon tower, which would have a stronger signal. Is it possible to remove that Cellular South tower from the list of known towers on my phone so that it will connect to Verizon?

That'll require a prl edit I believe, which is above my head. But you could swap prls and find the one that works best for you. Check my Sig for a great thread on prl swapping.
What prl are you on now?
Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!

I'm on 60671 right now I believe. Do the Verizon PRLs in your signature only contain Verizon towers or is it Sprint towers plus Verizon towers?

Some are hybrid and some are just Verizon. I normally run 01337, and that puts me on Verizon 100%, but that just because there is barely a Sprint signal where I am. IMO, you can't go wrong with 00001 or 01337, just check to see what towers ur on mostly, if ur roaming too much, you can go back.
Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!

Oh, also, if you try those prl's, disable data roaming and pick Sprint only.
Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!

Once I load one of those PRLs on the phone, so I need to force the phone to roam to use a Verizon tower or does it trick the phone into thinking that the Verizon towers are part of the Home network? Also, should I enable or disable data roaming?
EDIT: Ha, you posted right before me and answered my questions. Thanks!

JTNiggle said:
Oh, also, if you try those prl's, disable data roaming and pick Sprint only.
Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!
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what would be the point of this? if you disable data roaming and you're only on verizon towers, would this not disable your data as well since you're always roaming? or am i mistaken?

t3project said:
what would be the point of this? if you disable data roaming and you're only on verizon towers, would this not disable your data as well since you're always roaming? or am i mistaken?
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It's a trick, smoke and mirrors. Ur phone thinks ur on Sprint, but ur using whatever tower has the best signal for you. Instead of using the tower that's cheaper for Sprint. It's awesome as long as it works, some people have issues with lost connections, really depends on ur location.
Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!

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Clear & the EVO

With clearwire's recent release of the Android WiMAX Framework Ver 1.0, I was wondering if it was any way possible to add the ability for our phones to possibly connect with CLEAR directly instead of through sprint.
EDIT:AND IF IT IS POSSIBLE, START DEVELOPING HERE.
Here in phoenix, our entire area is pretty much covered by CLEAR but sprint hasn't officially released 4g here. It's kind of frustrating knowing the infrastructure is there but nothing hasn't happened yet.
oh yea, the link is here for the framework-http://64.13.72.12/tos/cm_api_terms.html?fileId=16&android_wimax_src.zip
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PS> cm6 will be using the clear framework, but that doesn't directly answer your question.
just be patient...it is coming (easy for me to say since I have 4G )
I've started implementing Clear's framework on top of CM6. It looks quite possible to connect to any WiMax network. I've only ported Clear over, I still need to make it talk to the sequans sdio module the ECO uses.
Is it possible to connect to Clear 3g in any way currently?
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mikeallison said:
I've started implementing Clear's framework on top of CM6. It looks quite possible to connect to any WiMax network. I've only ported Clear over, I still need to make it talk to the sequans sdio module the ECO uses.
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Wow, your definitely making great progress! If the EVO can connect to pretty much any WiMax network including clear, I think it would really open up a lot of options for us and have waaay more coverage than before.
I don't know anything about the clear framework... I haven't ready anything about it. But are you expecting to be able to connect to their network for free?
I was under the impression that Clear and the Sprint Wimax network were the same exact thing. Didn't Sprint buy Clear for exactly that reason?
I have "unofficial" 4G in my area, and when I used that antenna tool to check position, I was looking for the Clear site thinking I was connecting to that...
Totally off? They're separate networks?
flipzmode said:
I don't know anything about the clear framework... I haven't ready anything about it. But are you expecting to be able to connect to their network for free?
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Nah...but that would definitely be a plus The real use I see for this is bringing 4g speeds to people that aren't under sprint's shotty 4g coverage. Like I said in the op, the WiMax framework with clear is fairly widespread (and already available where I'm at) but inaccessible to us. This would help alot of people in clear's market with the evo that sprint hasn't gotten around to releasing their 4g.
@sjwaste-Sprint owns a majority stake in clearwire; and usually where you have the clear network, there's sprint's wimax. But in certain markets i.e phoenix arizona, sprint hasn't gotten to setting up clear's towers or vice versa for use.
And it's not just clear's WiMax that could be used here. It was said it seems that any WiMax network might be accesible.
Since Sprint owns 51% of Clear, why wouldn't you be able to connect to it?
sjwaste said:
I was under the impression that Clear and the Sprint Wimax network were the same exact thing. Didn't Sprint buy Clear for exactly that reason?
I have "unofficial" 4G in my area, and when I used that antenna tool to check position, I was looking for the Clear site thinking I was connecting to that...
Totally off? They're separate networks?
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I have clear in my home and Clear and the 4G are the same tower.
Speaking of all of this, Best Buy is now getting involved: http://newsroom.clearwire.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=214419&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1453796&highlight=
For people who like the short + sweet; here's the engadget blurb: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/30/best-buy-partners-with-clearwire-will-connect-customers-to-4g/
cool, ill have to ask my chick ia a manager at best buy mobile ill have to ask her if she has some inside scoop.....
Ok, Clear's WiMax network is Sprint's 4G network they are one and the same, the 3G network that Clear has is Sprint's 3G network, I am a Clear authorized retailer employee, that is my source of knowledge. in short, when you use Sprint's 4G network, you are truly connecting to Clear, our mac addresses have been added into Clear's database, tat's how we get the connection, same thing with Clear and Sprint 3G just reverse.
bmxrider4444 said:
Ok, Clear's WiMax network is Sprint's 4G network they are one and the same, the 3G network that Clear has is Sprint's 3G network, I am a Clear authorized retailer employee, that is my source of knowledge. in short, when you use Sprint's 4G network, you are truly connecting to Clear, our mac addresses have been added into Clear's database, tat's how we get the connection, same thing with Clear and Sprint 3G just reverse.
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Thanks for the insight! I read someplace on XDA, not sure where, that someone couldn't get onto some portion of Clears network with his EVO because of the frequency of the network whereas his Sprint/WiMax access point for his computer could. Any info about that? And to any Dev's out there, what are the chances that the EVO could access these other freq's? and if I am mistaken in what I post, I blame the other poster that I read this from (let me go search for that post now )
Edit: Here's the link to the other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738216&highlight=wimax+frequency
bmxrider4444 said:
Ok, Clear's WiMax network is Sprint's 4G network they are one and the same, the 3G network that Clear has is Sprint's 3G network, I am a Clear authorized retailer employee, that is my source of knowledge. in short, when you use Sprint's 4G network, you are truly connecting to Clear, our mac addresses have been added into Clear's database, tat's how we get the connection, same thing with Clear and Sprint 3G just reverse.
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That's cool and all, but I still get no WiMax in phoenix, yet phoenix was one of the first cities to get clear! The thread isn't just about that though, because the evo's WiMax has been limited. As mikeallison stated before, the evo seems to have the ability to communicate with any wimax tower. While it might not be important now, as more companies get into wimax it could really make a difference to those who aren't in sprint's or clear's coverage.
edtate said:
That's cool and all, but I still get no WiMax in phoenix, yet phoenix was one of the first cities to get clear! The thread isn't just about that though, because the evo's WiMax has been limited. As mikeallison stated before, the evo seems to have the ability to communicate with any wimax tower. While it might not be important now, as more companies get into wimax it could really make a difference to those who aren't in sprint's or clear's coverage.
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Yes, that said, you may need different authentication to access them. So, you might not be able to just hop on.
Clear
Maybe I don't "do enough" but I don't see any major difference between the 3g and 4g except I can tether and still make calls w/out losing my internet connection... I can send data while on call, etc. But as far as speed...again, maybe I don't do enough to tell the difference.
As far as clear, I am a clear customer for phone service and their wireless on the go service and it SUCKs!!! I can never stay connected to the internet on the go as they claim and I've complained and complained....they lock you into contracts like the cell companies and it is an overall bust for me. Maybe they are developing as well and will improve. I don't ask for much, just to be able to use what I pay for...
Seeing as how they have horrible customer service will keep them in line with the culture of Sprint, so it makes since. I do, however, favor Sprint's plans over all other providers so for that I stay and my EVO rocks.
edtate said:
While it might not be important now, as more companies get into wimax it could really make a difference to those who aren't in sprint's or clear's coverage.
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What other wimax networks are you expecting exactly? It's basically a dead protocol and I don't think anyone but Sprint/Clear plan to use it in the states. Everyone else is going with LTE.
Are you sure that Clear even has wimax in Phoenix? The reason I ask is that they do not currently show it on their coverage map. I have Clearwire internet at my house in Reno and when I asked about Sprint 4g they said they don't have it here, and don't know when they will. My understanding is that in the cities that Clear has the wimax equipment installed are the cities that have Sprint 4g. They told me the reason we do not have 4g here is that their current equipment here isn't capable of wimax.

[Q] Verizon Radio for the EVO 4g

I live on a island got sprint but signal sucks there is a verizon tower is there a verizon baseband that i could put on my evo i know the sprint hero has a verizon baseband that works???
Can't do that but you can either a. Force roam wo evdo service or try a prl load that will connect to Verizon tower w evdo service.
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this goes is q&a , also your answer is on the same exact page you asked on...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696073
I am in a similar situation, so I run CyanogenMod 6.0 and force roam by going to wireless settings/mobile networks/ then choosing affiliated networks.
Works well!
Will i loose my internet if i force roam?
jamiethomas said:
Will i loose my internet if i force roam?
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No just a high phone bill mayb
Sent from my phone... I think useing Tapatalk?
Go back and read rutter9's response. I use that method and it works perfectly. No extra charges yet you get the better signal and speed of the verizon network.
but sprint dont charge roaming?
No...sprint doesn't charge roaming.
Read the thread that was linked. It'll give you all the info you need.
KwestJones said:
No...sprint doesn't charge roaming.
Read the thread that was linked. It'll give you all the info you need.
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Actually, I was on the phone with Sprint a couple weeks ago and I inquired about data roaming. They confirmed what others have said in regards to data roaming cap---->300mb
Some have stated that they haven't been charged for anything in excess of that 300mb cap but sooner or later it's bound to catch up with them. My advice would be to lobby for a free Airave from Sprint if you live in a low signal area...
I cannot for the life of me get the 3G working with no roaming signal (using VERIZON mnvo service).
Is it possible to flash a radio from a similar phone (if any exist?) from Verizon to the EVO4G to make it all work out?

[Q] International roaming block

Sprint service is crap where I work (outer areas of Detroit), so I am using Roam Control for when I get near work. Most of the time I get a tower in the US, but every once in a while a Canadian Tower appears.
Sprint has told me to update the PRL (done 01115) and has tried to block the international roaming (didn't work), so now I am here to ask the experts.
Is there someway to prevent locking onto an International Tower?
I am running Syndicate Frozen ROM with Emotionless Beast Theme (which deserves more thanks than I could give, since this is how I figured out I was on international tower).
notmyepic said:
Sprint service is crap where I work (outer areas of Detroit), so I am using Roam Control for when I get near work. Most of the time I get a tower in the US, but every once in a while a Canadian Tower appears.
Sprint has told me to update the PRL (done 01115) and has tried to block the international roaming (didn't work), so now I am here to ask the experts.
Is there someway to prevent locking onto an International Tower?
I am running Syndicate Frozen ROM with Emotionless Beast Theme (which deserves more thanks than I could give, since this is how I figured out I was on international tower).
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I think that your best bet is to enable the Roaming Guard.
Now I would advise you download ROAM CONTROL (http://www.appbrain.com/app/roam-control/com.vuvuzela.roamcontrol) and force the network to HOME ONLY and that might work out for you
Let us know.
megabiteg said:
I think that your best bet is to enable the Roaming Guard.
Now I would advise you download ROAM CONTROL (http://www.appbrain.com/app/roam-control/com.vuvuzela.roamcontrol) and force the network to HOME ONLY and that might work out for you
Let us know.
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I have and use Roam Control so that my phone will work at/near work which I want. I would say 95% of the time at work, I am on a US tower. I am just looking to prevent the other 5% from charging me International roaming charges.
notmyepic said:
I have and use Roam Control so that my phone will work at/near work which I want. I would say 95% of the time at work, I am on a US tower. I am just looking to prevent the other 5% from charging me International roaming charges.
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To what setting you have it? Home Network or Automatic?
megabiteg said:
To what setting you have it? Home Network or Automatic?
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When I am using it, it is on Roam Only.
When Emotionless Beast said "International" instead of its usual "Emotionless Beast" on the lock screen, I would think that somewhere in the programming it the phone knows where it is at, and am simply wondering if there is a way to block data while on international.
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(done 01115).
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what a weird prl number. ive seen others talking about getting a 01xxx prl lately too. whats up with that? mine is still 60676.
austin420 said:
what a weird prl number. ive seen others talking about getting a 01xxx prl lately too. whats up with that? mine is still 60676.
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Not sure what it is all about. The last link in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13153111 talked about this PRL, so I manually loaded it.
Bumping, since my phone is seems to go into International roaming anytime I am at work now.
Staying on Sprint Network only is not something that I want to do. After paying a lot for the 4 phones I have with Sprint (and the fact I do not leave the US) I do not think I should have to pay for the Canada Roaming addon.
Sprint told me update the PRL ("to one that is greater then 64" was actual quote from the rep) and this will end me getting an International tower.
My PRL does not update automatically (don't know why, maybe due to Syndicate Frozen rom), so I manually updated to 60676 and still get the international tower.
Does anyone have any other ideas on what I can do?
If it is only at work you are concerned about maybe you can talk your boss and Sprint into setting up an Airave there so you won't roam at all.
Do you BONSAI?
Didn't think about that. I will have to talk to them about it.
So after many conversations with Sprint and many bill adjustments, we came up with the solution of turning off Data while roaming on my phone. This still allows me to be contacted by texting and voice.
Allthough still not happy that International towers cannot be turned off completely, at least my kids are able to get a hold of me.

A must have app that's no longer in the market.

Roam Control. Here is the link if anyone was looking for this great app
http://www.roamctrl.com/
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It currently supports HTC and Samsung phones, and it is geared towards Sprint users.
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LOL so true. You have to roam to get any kind of usable data on Sprint.
spencer88 said:
LOL so true. You have to roam to get any kind of usable data on Sprint.
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This one will let roam at 1x only.
nabbed said:
This one will let roam at 1x only.
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Oh. It doesn't do full 3G roaming?
spencer88 said:
Oh. It doesn't do full 3G roaming?
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No it just locks your phone to regular 1x roaming.
I also noticed when i used this, that if i do a whatismyip i am actually still on sprint
Even if we use custom PRL like 11115? I had 1.70 installed, just updated/downgraded to this one. Good thing for Titanium BackUp!
EDIT...on the 11115 PRL you can still roam 3G. 11115 PRL is a Sprint PRL for Business lines that allow roaming on 3G.
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This one will let roam at 1x only.
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You are incorrect.
Roam Control does not decide whether you roam 1x or 3g. Your roaming data speed is governed by your PRL and/or the roaming agreements Sprint has with other carriers.
For example, in northern Wisconsin, Sprint has a full 3G roaming agreement with Alltel which was maintained because Verizon was forced to divest those towers to Cellcom. This is available to all Sprint customers. In southern Wisconsin, you are able to get a "corporate" PRL (like 11115), which enables 3g roaming.
In other states, where roaming is on Verizon, Sprint forces 1x roaming, and the only way around it is to use a hacked Verizon PRL.
Roam Control is a fantastic program that works perfectly for me, but I'm fortunate to be in a valid 3G roaming zone!
Dalmus said:
You are incorrect.
Roam Control does not decide whether you roam 1x or 3g. Your roaming data speed is governed by your PRL and/or the roaming agreements Sprint has with other carriers.
For example, in northern Wisconsin, Sprint has a full 3G roaming agreement with Alltel which was maintained because Verizon was forced to divest those towers to Cellcom. This is available to all Sprint customers. In southern Wisconsin, you are able to get a "corporate" PRL (like 11115), which enables 3g roaming.
In other states, where roaming is on Verizon, Sprint forces 1x roaming, and the only way around it is to use a hacked Verizon PRL.
Roam Control is a fantastic program that works perfectly for me, but I'm fortunate to be in a valid 3G roaming zone!
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I've never heard of anyone roaming naturally (when sprint signal is nonexistent) on anything higher than 1x and without a hacked verizon prl. I only use Roam Control at work, where Sprint signal is so low, the radio drains the battery 10 times faster than normal. And it works great.
But sure, here.
I'll rephrase:
Unless you are already able to roam on 3G w/o Roam Control, Roam Control will let roam at 1x only. It is not a substitute for using a hacked/business PRL which allows 3G roaming.
nvm..........
nabbed said:
I've never heard of anyone roaming naturally (when sprint signal is nonexistent) on anything higher than 1x and without a hacked verizon prl. I only use Roam Control at work, where Sprint signal is so low, the radio drains the battery 10 times faster than normal. And it works great.
But sure, here.
I'll rephrase:
Unless you are already able to roam on 3G w/o Roam Control, Roam Control will let roam at 1x only. It is not a substitute for using a hacked/business PRL which allows 3G roaming.
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Ok, I have poor signal at one of my workplaces and am interested in this program. Do you set it on "Roam only" when you get to work? And what's the difference between "Automatic" mode on Roam Control vs. just letting your phone decide whether it will roam or not?
beezar said:
Ok, I have poor signal at one of my workplaces and am interested in this program. Do you set it on "Roam only" when you get to work? And what's the difference between "Automatic" mode on Roam Control vs. just letting your phone decide whether it will roam or not?
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on automatic you will stay on sprint even registering zero bars but having "1/2" bars worth of sprint... even if you have 5 on VZ other. roam only is exactly what it says, and im not sure theres anywhere there would be an advantage to sprint only... a joke maybe? MrGreg has a thread somewhere on xda too... hes really good w responsing to questions/issues. best app ive ever had.
i am not sure what this does. so if my signal is non existant on 3g or 1x then this will allow me to jump to a different carrier? running blazer with el26 modem and the rouge el29kernal.
fallenraven75 said:
i am not sure what this does. so if my signal is non existant on 3g or 1x then this will allow me to jump to a different carrier? running blazer with el26 modem and the rouge el29kernal.
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If your Sprint signal is low and this drains your battery (which is almost always the case), you have a choice to roam on a different network, whose signal is usually much stronger. You lose the bandwidth (from 3g to 1x - 2.5mbps to 128kbps), but you will improve the battery life (compared to losing something like 10% battery an hour in idle).
I usually only lose about 1% battery per hour with 3+ Sprint bars of signal. But at work, my signal is 0-1 bars, and the battery loss is close to 10% per hour.
By using Roam Control and setting it to roam only, I can have normal battery drain - 1% an hour.
I personally have never got this dang thing to work. When I select Roam Only, it just chills on Sprint's network still. I can be roaming (just by chance), then try 'Sprint Only' and nothing... stays in roaming.
I would love it if this worked though because I am on PRL 11115 and should be able to get 3G + I get better VZ signal in my apt. anyways.
Anyone have suggestions on what I may be doing wrong? I select Samsung in the options.
-Grand
Purchased the new version (updated server) off his website and with PRL 11115 this works like a charm with 3G roaming. Works great where the network is so saturated it is unusable with speeds on VZW ~1000kbps.
bean said:
Purchased the new version (updated server) off his website and with PRL 11115 this works like a charm with 3G roaming. Works great where the network is so saturated it is unusable with speeds on VZW ~1000kbps.
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May I ask your setup?
I am on Calk's 2.8, EL26 modem I get nothing. Does it automatically switch for you pretty quick? God, my Sprint signal blows balls here. Plus, when I do get my phone to roam, i get almost full bars and fast vzw 3g speeds. So, I know the PRL and all allows it, but missing something here.
nabbed said:
I've never heard of anyone roaming naturally (when sprint signal is nonexistent) on anything higher than 1x and without a hacked verizon prl. I only use Roam Control at work, where Sprint signal is so low, the radio drains the battery 10 times faster than normal. And it works great.
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All I can say is when I was running the stock PRL that came with the phone, I indeed had 3G roaming in northern Wisconsin (although it was rev A, not rev 0) and was fast enough to comfortably use Netflix.
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grandmastem said:
May I ask your setup?
I am on Calk's 2.8, EL26 modem I get nothing. Does it automatically switch for you pretty quick? God, my Sprint signal blows balls here. Plus, when I do get my phone to roam, i get almost full bars and fast vzw 3g speeds. So, I know the PRL and all allows it, but missing something here.
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I've noticed on Calk's ROMs that after selecting a new state (automatic to Roam Only, or Roam Only to Automatic), about half the time the change won't take until I reboot the phone. Usually, when this happens, I'll get force closes for the phone process.
Try rebooting after changing the state and see if that works for you.
grandmastem said:
May I ask your setup?
I am on Calk's 2.8, EL26 modem I get nothing..
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Calk's 2.7 EL26. Radio responds instantly (LOS ==> VZW) and 3G is indicated within 8 seconds usually. I have seen information in other threads about Samsung not roaming in 3G due to a lack of PCS band. However if it is not switching at all that probably does not apply.
MrGreg said:
I'm not calling anyone out, but be aware that pirated versions of the app will not work. It may not give you an error code, but it's not doing anything.
I just don't want the app to get a bad rep because it's "not working"
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spencer88 said:
LOL so true. You have to roam to get any kind of usable data on Sprint.
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Why are you here?
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[Q] What Exactly is data roaming?

I know im going to sound like a noob right now but oh well. I Never understood what roaming really is, Can someone explain it to me? I saw some threads about people hacking the prl to verizon and people getting faster speeds?. I have the unlimited plan. Will sprint charge me for roaming? My sprint 3g is crap and we don't have 4g here where i live. I'm running CM9 alpha 2. How can i hack the prl to verizon on this rom.
19fonzy said:
I know im going to sound like a noob right now but oh well. I Never understood what roaming really is, Can someone explain it to me? I saw some threads about people hacking the prl to verizon and people getting faster speeds?. I have the unlimited plan. Will sprint charge me for roaming? My sprint 3g is crap and we don't have 4g here where i live. I'm running CM9 alpha 2. How can i hack the prl to verizon on this rom.
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Data roaming is using data from another cellular network, when outside of your service providers network area. Sprint allows unlimited roaming (as far as I know) with a catch, when a certain amount of data is exceeded they can terminate your account. A prl is a preferred roaming list, it chooses what towers your phone will connect to first which will determine speeds and service. If you install a custom prl to your phone, you may get much better service, but depending on the prl you may be roaming (some prl's your phone will alert you for roaming, others may not) if you are, and you use data a lot, you may get terminated.
Thank you so much. I went ahead and hacked the prl. if i get terminated will i have to pay a termination fee or what ?
19fonzy said:
Thank you so much. I went ahead and hacked the prl. if i get terminated will i have to pay a termination fee or what ?
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I don't think so but to be honest with you I'm not completely sure what they do, as far as I know they just terminate your contract which is good if you don't like Sprint but you may not be able to ever sign up with them again. Are you getting better speeds now?

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