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CAN IT BE UPGRADED TO WINDOWS MOBILE??
does it support windows mobile to be installed on it??
Even if it's possible, I don't think "upgrading" is the correct term.
he might means wp7S
Why would you buy a brand new Android phone and even want to change the OS - astounded!!
I think he means "porting" to WM. I am also wondering if this would be possible to port to WM7S with this device, although, strict hardware chassis requirements would be required (Back, Start and Search button on all Windows Phone 7 Series devices).
I didnt think it was possible to run WM on an android phone, i always thought that android on WM was only possible
Currently, there is no way of installing Windows Mobile on any Android phone
But you can install Android on Windows Mobile on selected devices.
Porting WP7 to the desire would be a downgrade, not an upgrade. WP7 is going to be even more watered down than the iPhone OS, and a trident based web browser... no thanks
Oh dear, getting deja vu feelings here. Let's say it's a recurring topic when new Android devices come out And every time the replies are about the same lol
WP7 offers classic mode
If the news is true and not an April Fool's joke, WP7 will offer a classic mode download once it's launched and we will be able to run all wm6.5.3 programs on it, similar to WinXP mode on Win7. This will be a good reason to port over to WP7 right?
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Oh well, after doing just a bit more googling it appears to be just another joke.
crasher said:
If the news is true and not an April Fool's joke, WP7 will offer a classic mode download once it's launched and we will be able to run all wm6.5.3 programs on it, similar to WinXP mode on Win7. This will be a good reason to port over to WP7 right?
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Oh well, after doing just a bit more googling it appears to be just another joke.
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I actually believe it would be easier just to make kind of Windows Mobile emulator or virtualization, something like wine on linux to run wm classic software on android rather than porting to proprietary platform
patasenko said:
I actually believe it would be easier just to make kind of Windows Mobile emulator or virtualization, something like wine on linux to run wm classic software on android rather than porting to proprietary platform
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WINE exists for desktop linux but it's been developed on for years. I'm sure something is possible it's just a case of who would want to adopt and code such a product. And anyway, I think if something was attempted it would be to emulate iPhone apps on Android not WM apps.
I couldn't believe the title of this thread. WHY would anyone want to do this ?
Stick to Android. It will fair you well.
easy
Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
Upgraded?!?
Windows Mobile is dead and Windows Phone 7 sucks balls, it's worse than iPhone OS.
Nice reactions to Windows Mobile!
I only had wm5 on an old mda compact ii, just got my desire with android and OMG, who would ever take android off their phone? !
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Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
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LMFAO!!
At least there wasn't any flaming of the OP this time....
Why would you want to port winmo-CRAP to an android phone like the HTC Desire ???????????????????/
While I'm not a fan of microsoft in general, I have a Topaz presently and I do like both the phone and the HTC Sense/TF3D interface. I also have a collection of apps that I've grown quite fond of, apps that AFAIK don't have any Android counterparts.
In fact, the only things I'd like to improve on the Topaz is a slightly larger screen and much faster CPU. If I could have the Desire with winmo 6.5 or 6.5.x this would fit the bill perfectly.
I know of the supposed HTC Obsession/Diamond 3, but it's supposed to run WP7 and with the kind of functionality sacrifices that means (copy/paste, multitasking, no 3rp party UIs/skins) I'm not tempted.
Each to their own, live and let live. Just because you don't understand why, doesn't make it wrong.
Why on earth would anyone want to install WM on the Desire??
I think its possible like some of the members said, using WINE or something, but i doubt that anyone would be interested (maybe just for experimental purposes)
profet said:
Actually, its remarkably simple to get your Desire to run an almost identical experience to Windows Mobile. Just put it on the floor, and then stamp on it at least fifteen times. Then leave it in the bath for at least an hour.
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Made my day!
Did a search and couldn't find anything but it appears that when the Guys at Skype decided to discontinue Skype for Windows Mobile they also decided that they wouldn't be developing for WP7 any time soon.
David Flynn at apcmag.com said:
Citing a second-rate “user experience” compared to the iPhone and Android, Skype admits it has no immediate plans to release an app for Windows Phone 7.
Skype is working full steam ahead on an app for the iPad and the next-gen iPhone, but users of Windows Phone 7 will have to take a number and wait… and wait… and wait.
Skype’s Asia Pacific Vice-President Dan Neary says that Microsoft’s forthcoming smartphone OS is not a priority when it comes to mobile platforms.
“We try and focus not only where the need is but where the best experience is, and we feel that the best areas for us to develop are on the operating systems that we currently support – iPhone, Symbian, BlackBerry and now Android” Neary told APC during a press briefing in Sydney today. “We simply feel that those operating systems (have) a much better user experience”.
Neary said that while a Skype app for Windows Phone 7 “is on the roadmap, the question is how quickly we’re going to get to it. We feel that we are best best deployed on other operating systems (for now) and we’ll see how the space evolves.”
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article here
screw skype then, does windows mobile messenger support voice chat?
C'mon now
The main part of this article was about Skype abandoning development for the current WinMobile (6.5). They were talking about which platforms were currently supported. Why would they be talking about an app for an OS that hasn't been released yet.
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The main part of this article was about Skype abandoning development for the current WinMobile (6.5). They were talking about which platforms were currently supported. Why would they be talking about an app for an OS that hasn't been released yet.
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err...I interpreted it differently...to me it sounds like they're not going to bother for a while.
Neary said that while a Skype app for Windows Phone 7 “is on the roadmap, the question is how quickly we’re going to get to it. We feel that we are best best deployed on other operating systems (for now) and we’ll see how the space evolves.”
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Skype’s Asia Pacific Vice-President Dan Neary says that Microsoft’s forthcoming smartphone OS is not a priority when it comes to mobile platforms.
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..sound to me like they'll wait to see how well the platform takes off before considering beginning development.
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err...I interpreted it differently...to me it sounds like they're not going to bother for a while.
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..sound to me like they'll wait to see how well the platform takes off before considering beginning development.
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Which is fine. Either wp7 will be successful and they will port it over ~3 months after release. Or wp7 will fail and it wouldn't matter either way if skype existed or not.
As an aside, anyone came across any information about kin sales?
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As an aside, anyone came across any information about kin sales?
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Actually yes, but its 3rd party info. I have a friend at that Carphone place... they've had a briefing on the Kin range and are expecting units to be released to them late july apparently.
I tried to get some sort of confirmation of this but as yet all I've managed to find out came from one of the shop staff who made a comment about them being late or something. (not really sure it was mumbled quietly as he walked off)
Suprisingly enough though there is nothing on the GSM Arena site despite the fact that the HTC Mondrian is listed there (a WP7 phone).
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Which is fine. Either wp7 will be successful and they will port it over ~3 months after release. Or wp7 will fail and it wouldn't matter either way if skype existed or not.
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And if every developer thinks like this, there will be zero apps for WP7 when it launches --> nobody will buy it, cause it has no apps --> nobody will make apps for it, cause it has no users --> ...
And by the way, Skype is not alone. So far I have not seen one developer, who thinks the tools offered are enough to make good applications (that means, stuff that does a little more than farts).
Silverlight etc. is fine and all, but now is not the right time for Microsoft to start over like this, hecause the competition is too far ahead. They should improve upon what they have, and make a slow transition to the new tools etc. when they can afford it.
But now it's too late anyway, they already dumped everything they had.
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And if every developer thinks like this, there will be zero apps for WP7 when it launches --> nobody will buy it, cause it has no apps --> nobody will make apps for it, cause it has no users --> ...
And by the way, Skype is not alone. So far I have not seen one developer, who thinks the tools offered are enough to make good applications (that means, stuff that does a little more than farts).
Silverlight etc. is fine and all, but now is not the right time for Microsoft to start over like this, hecause the competition is too far ahead. They should improve upon what they have, and make a slow transition to the new tools etc. when they can afford it.
But now it's too late anyway, they already dumped everything they had.
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The problem is that trying to maintain backwards compatibility with all those apps that were designed for stylus input and resistive touch screens was what allowed the competition to get so far ahead in the first place. The only thing they could have done was to start over because that forces developers to redevelop apps that are designed for finger input, compactive touch screens, and work better with the new OS.
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And if every developer thinks like this, there will be zero apps for WP7 when it launches --> nobody will buy it, cause it has no apps --> nobody will make apps for it, cause it has no users --> ...
And by the way, Skype is not alone. So far I have not seen one developer, who thinks the tools offered are enough to make good applications (that means, stuff that does a little more than farts).
Silverlight etc. is fine and all, but now is not the right time for Microsoft to start over like this, hecause the competition is too far ahead. They should improve upon what they have, and make a slow transition to the new tools etc. when they can afford it.
But now it's too late anyway, they already dumped everything they had.
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Maybe you should look at the videos from MWC and MIX 2010, then you'll see that there are some quite amazing apps in development. They demonstrated a Netflix, an Associated Press, a Seesmic, a Shazam and MLS app and a bunch of games. You can expect apps from EA Mobile, Fandango, Pandora, Foursquare, IMDB, Namco, PopCap Games, Photobucket and SPB Software just to name a few (that list is a bit longer than that) and because the developer tools are already available I expect many many more apps than that.
"Amazing"? lol yeah if bling bling is all you want...
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"Amazing"? lol yeah if bling bling is all you want...
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So Netflix is bling bling? Or a game like The Harvester is also just bling bling? What about Shazam?
Oh come on... Shazam is always the first app that gets ported to any new OS, because there's nothing complicated about it. Games are of course just bling bling. And 96% of the world's population couldn't care less about Netflix.
I just prefer functionality, that's all. WP7 is not going to deliver this.
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I just prefer functionality, that's all. WP7 is not going to deliver this.
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You mean to say that you believe it's not going to deliver the functionality that you deem to be important. It's still going to be a great communication, social networking, maps/navigation, multimedia and gaming platform and that's what most people want from their smartphones these days. I agree with you that WP7 is missing quite a bit of features, but I don't think those missing features are deal breakers for the average consumer.
No it's not going to deliver a lot of functionality at all, regardless of which features I personally use.
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No it's not going to deliver a lot of functionality at all, regardless of which features I personally use.
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what features are those?
Also calling something a fart app or bling bling is misleading. The majority of apps people actually consume fall into that category.
Not that I disagree with what you're trying to say but many of the advanced apps of windows mobile are just hacks to correct the lacking default user experience of wm. I do think you're being too hardlined though.
but I definitely don't like some decisions they're making with some of the current advanced features. eg: file system, data storage, side loading.
The problems as I see it is that the APIs is to poor at the moment.
No sockets support -> Some apps will have serious problems, e.g. Skype.
No way to access Bluetooth.
Very limited access to media.
This are the main things that make me doubt on this platform. I'm fine with it being locked down, just not too much.
Should we really be bothered by such trivial issue?There are better alternative apps like Fring and Nimbuzz that perfectly connects to the skype node,allowing you to still skype and be skyped.
blackrider said:
Should we really be bothered by such trivial issue?There are better alternative apps like Fring and Nimbuzz that perfectly connects to the skype node,allowing you to still skype and be skyped.
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Except Fring won't be possible in WP7 either. Skype is a proprietary P2P protocol, and implementing it would require ability to manipulate sockets. One could possibly implement an http version of a client that would connect to a central server and then the server would communicate with other Skype users, but that would be difficult, costly and ultimately useless because it would only serve as a temporary workaround until socket support comes to WP7 APIs.
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Except Fring won't be possible in WP7 either. Skype is a proprietary P2P protocol, and implementing it would require ability to manipulate sockets. One could possibly implement an http version of a client that would connect to a central server and then the server would communicate with other Skype users, but that would be difficult, costly and ultimately useless because it would only serve as a temporary workaround until socket support comes to WP7 APIs.
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Socket support for WP7 will come later but is not in initial release.
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Socket support for WP7 will come later but is not in initial release.
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Hopefully they'll hurry up, since I'm fear that I (and many others) will stand without good/any music support.
I'm a big user of Spotify, a streaming music service, which I'm sure will require Sockets to work, because it's Superior responsiveness is based on a P2P protocol. Before anyone say anything else, the phones won't share the media, but they'll download from desktop clients.
Hopefully they'll release some custom version anyway. Responsiveness won't be a problem on Mobile devices where most people have the "important" stuff in Offline cache anyways.
Hey Guys,
just starting a new threat to look for info and ideas about the next subject:
I am going to get a new phone in the next few months. Probable looking for an HTC with WP7.
I dont know if I will like it and I am wondering if these new phones could be flashed back to WM6.5.
Of course I would be willing to help with all kinds of WP7 ideas an tests, even though I am not a developper myself.
So, the statement for the new threat:
--Would it be possible/worhty to make 6.5 roms for WP7 hardware?--
Possible, sure. Likely, no. WM6.5 is, for most intents and purposes, dead. Highly unlikely that anyone puts in the time and effort needed to hack the bootloader, etc of specific devices in order to backport the old OS.
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Hey Guys,
just starting a new threat to look for info and ideas about the next subject:
I am going to get a new phone in the next few months. Probable looking for an HTC with WP7.
I dont know if I will like it and I am wondering if these new phones could be flashed back to WM6.5.
Of course I would be willing to help with all kinds of WP7 ideas an tests, even though I am not a developper myself.
So, the statement for the new threat:
--Would it be possible/worhty to make 6.5 roms for WP7 hardware?--
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I think u can buy a 6.5phone now
If you're looking for backwards compatibility Windows Embedded Handheld 7 (based on WM6.x) is scheduled for the second half of 2011.
I've been following the conversations backstage and I don't think WM6.5 is dead at all. WP7 has a lot of shortcomings when it comes to business use. No copy/paste, less customization, etc. In fact, it is a dumb smartphone which is more geared for the iphone type consumer...those who would gladly trade endless customization and features for simplicity. Those who look at phones as fashion accessories and toys rather than something designed to get work done more efficiently. Sadly, the market for this is much much larger than the market for serious smart devices. Steve Jobs figured this out which is why the iphone is such a big hit, but most of us here have been looking at these folks going "wow, you can copy/paste now? Neat. I've been doing that for years!".
I had a list at one point which detailed all the things that WP7 does NOT do that 6.5 does and I can tell you that enterprise customers will not accept WP7 as a replacement to WM6.x. Many large companies out here are Microsoft partners with exchange servers, sharepoint, Office suitefor all employees and as a matter of IT support, they only support Windows Mobile so that their IT departments only have to manage MS products. If hey were to cut off SM6.x entirely while rolling out WP7, purchasing departments across the country would make a huge shift to blackberry. I'm certain that this is why RIM decided to go forward with plans for a new OS and why HP purchased Palm with their WebOS. They are both counting on MS doing this.
However, through conversations with various insiders at MS, it appears these fears are unfounded. Windows 6.5 is expected to continue being developed even into next year with possible future upgrades to the OS itself. WP7 will not support skins such as the HTC Sense interface, and because of the business users with business devices - particularly full qwerty devices like the Treo, Glisten, etc - they do expect to continue development.
I have heard rumors that there is actually a long development cycle planned for WM which involves the next iteration of Windows Mobile which will be renamed Windows 7 Professional. This would be in line with MS and their way of doing things and matches up nicely with Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7. I don't know how much of this part is true and how much is just rumors floating around backstage, but it makes a lot of sense.
kfreels said:
I've been following the conversations backstage and I don't think WM6.5 is dead at all.
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..not dead....dying. The next iteration of 'WM' is BASED on 6.5.x and then in 2011 a version (based on WP7) with XNA and silverlight support is due.
Here's some info on the next 'WM' release....~note...this is not a 'WP' release so doesn't fall under the 'Windows Phone' umbrella, it's a new version of Windows Mobile - Embedded and it;s backwards compatible.
http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/press-releases/microsoft-outlines-commitment-future-enterprise-handheld-devices
..also mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6917106&posted=1#post6917106
Moving to General .
I will delete this post with in a week or two, so it doesn't clutter.
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WP7 has a lot of shortcomings when it comes to business use. No copy/paste.
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God, I'm so tired of hearing this. There will be copy&paste, they said it often enough...
I had a list at one point which detailed all the things that WP7 does NOT do that 6.5 does and I can tell you that enterprise customers will not accept WP7 as a replacement to WM6.x. Many large companies out here are Microsoft partners with exchange servers, sharepoint, Office suitefor all employees and as a matter of IT support, they only support Windows Mobile so that their IT departments only have to manage MS products.
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All the products you name (Office, Sharepoint, Exchange) are natively supported by WP7. Have you seen ANY WP7 demo video lately?
Ok so WP7 looks pretty cool and all but can I use it with my Mac? Will there be tie in software for the Mac like there is iTunes on Windows machines? From what I understand there will be tie-in software on Windows kind of like the Zune software but what about on the Mac?
haven't seen anything about Zune Mac edition. But as I understand it, syncing to a PC isn't mandatory. The phone is standalone. Syncing to a PC is just an enhancement.
Yeah but still if there are things that I can't do because I don't have a PC like... PUT MUSIC ON IT... then I won't be getting one until this is addressed. See what I'm saying?
If all else fails, just use Parallels or Boot Camp
I know that's always an option it's just that I don't think I should have to virtualize an OS to use a device. Apple makes software for windows to use their devices, albeit not coded nearly as well as the mac version but at least it's there. So I figure MS should take that initiative as well.
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I know that's always an option it's just that I don't think I should have to virtualize an OS to use a device. Apple makes software for windows to use their devices, albeit not coded nearly as well as the mac version but at least it's there. So I figure MS should take that initiative as well.
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It's true, Zune should have a Mac version. My guess is they may be rewriting it in Silverlight to actually do this, since that would be the simplest way to keep it cross-platform compatible.
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I know that's always an option it's just that I don't think I should have to virtualize an OS to use a device. Apple makes software for windows to use their devices, albeit not coded nearly as well as the mac version but at least it's there. So I figure MS should take that initiative as well.
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Lets be honest here, knowing Apple if they could get away with not writing software for Windows they probably would. The only reason they do is because 95% of the worlds computers run Windows.
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Lets be honest here, knowing Apple if they could get away with not writing software for Windows they probably would. The only reason they do is because 95% of the worlds computers run Windows.
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You say that Apple wouldn't if they could get away with it... but they could get away with it. The share of windows computers that actually use iTunes is VERY VERY small. Not enough to even make an ROI on it's own. Ironically you claim they probably wouldn't even though of the two companies, they are the only ones that do... so I think you statement that's routed in desire should be directed at MS... MS seems to be the ones that don't want to write cross platform software for their mobile devices... This will indeed be to their detriment.
Unless Microsoft is going to utilize TheMissingSync like they did for Kin, no you will not be able to sync WP7 with a Mac. WP7 can be used alone except for media syncing.
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You say that Apple wouldn't if they could get away with it... but they could get away with it. The share of windows computers that actually use iTunes is VERY VERY small. Not enough to even make an ROI on it's own. Ironically you claim they probably wouldn't even though of the two companies, they are the only ones that do... so I think you statement that's routed in desire should be directed at MS... MS seems to be the ones that don't want to write cross platform software for their mobile devices... This will indeed be to their detriment.
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The share of windows computers that use iTunes is likely small but the share of iTunes users that are on windows is probably very high. There's WAAAAYYYYYY more iPods, iPhones, etc than there are OSX users. Typically they sell ~3mil computers in a quarter as compared to 10mil iPods and 8mil iPhones. There's no way that math can add up to mean that more iTunes users are on OSX than Windows.
I would love for nothing more than Microsoft to port the Zune app to OSX because Zune is way better than iTunes. However, I just don't see them doing it anytime soon. Most OSX users are very much Apple fans. In addition, the Zune client is written using the Iris framework which utilizes a lot of Windows features and is rather Windows-centric. It would have to be a complete rewrite and not just a simple port.
And to the person that suggest SilverLight, not gonna work. SilverLight is way to limited and strict to write something that needs to talk to hardware and the system's file system.
If Microsoft really wants to show up in the game and be ready to fight to get their mobile share back then they need to come prepared to play ball with any team... that simple. It's not rocket science... If Zune needs a rewrite, then so be it. You think iTunes was a direct port? Under the hood, iTunes for OS X and for Windows are quite different, albeit the Windows version does suck to high heaven lol but at least it's there and available. I'd love to get a Windows Phone 7 device as I've owned other Windows Mobile devices and this one seems like the first one that I won't want to take back within the first day of having it. However I am not going to purchase if I'm forced to purchase a copy of Windows and virtualize a Windows OS for the sole purpose of using the phone.
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Ok so WP7 looks pretty cool and all but can I use it with my Mac? Will there be tie in software for the Mac like there is iTunes on Windows machines? From what I understand there will be tie-in software on Windows kind of like the Zune software but what about on the Mac?
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I don't think it's that important because Mac users will tend to want iPhones.
But if you know how to user computers, I wouldn't get a phone (iphone, windows phone 7) that requires special sync software to copy files.
That argument doesn't make much sense unless you don't know many Mac users. If that's the case then I think your perception is skewed... the Mac users I know (I know several hundred as I work in a mixed Mac/Win environment) will use whatever works well. Your argument is like saying Windows users will prefer WinMo when in actuality I know A LOT of Windows users who can't stand WinMo and use iPhones or Androids. Also I think the opposite from in regards to that I know how to use computers (I manage a very large infrastructure project for the government) and I don't care about the data copying method, I just want the device to work as it should, as promised, and do what I need it to. So far iPhone does that and it appears WP7 will too...
Here's a glimmer of hope for you.
Zune on OSX?
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You say that Apple wouldn't if they could get away with it... but they could get away with it. The share of windows computers that actually use iTunes is VERY VERY small. Not enough to even make an ROI on it's own. Ironically you claim they probably wouldn't even though of the two companies, they are the only ones that do... so I think you statement that's routed in desire should be directed at MS... MS seems to be the ones that don't want to write cross platform software for their mobile devices... This will indeed be to their detriment.
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What a load of rubish they if they wanted to make a ROI they had to write itunes for windows - probably why there is no linux itunes for linux even though it would be an easier port.
Do you really think there are more idevices connected to macs because the figures dont add up?
www .appleinsider.com/articles/07/06/12/apple_serving_up_1_million_copies_of_itunes_each_day.html
Apple Inc.'s iTunes digital jukebox software is downloaded 1 million times per day and has an active user base of 500 million users, the company said during annual developers conference on Monday.
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The last two years alone the number of users of OS X has tripled from 25 million to about 75 million, thanks to the iPhone and iPod touch. The last two years alone the number of users of OS X has tripled from 25 million to about 75 million, thanks to the iPhone and iPod touch.
I did some searching, and for those who are looking for a Mac OS sync with WP7, this is kind of hitting the mark: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/apps/mac-connector.aspx
you can get phone software updates and move media.
Syncmate might work; it does with my Tilt running WM6.1 and WM6.5--even using the USB cable. www.sync-mac.com
Nice work reviving a year old thread .
Search for Windows Phone Connector in your iMAC App Store....
I have Zune on a Win Vista laptop, but iMAC is main machine, so I may actually start using this instead.
I have a Mac and I generally use Windows Phone Connector quite a bit if I have to. I usually just run Parallels Desktop though and use Zune as it's much easier to manage files and you can actually pick specific songs that you want to load onto your device. WPC only lets you sync albums and artists.
Windows phone 7 connector is alright when you need to sync media but to when updating your phone it lacks that feature. Though I don't mind booting into boot camp.
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
The WP7 connector beta when it was first released for osx was actually pretty handy. Would sync your iTunes music to your WP7 normally and quickly, but would also sync any music bought on the device from Zune store back into iTunes when it was connected again, as well as any new music from iTunes bought in the meantime away from your device. Kept your music collection nice and tidy and everything synced.
Then one day it all just stopped working with a message popping up you had to download the new version from the apple store. Low and behold the new "improved" version lacked the cross device syncing, making it all pretty pointless really.
No upgrade to WP8, even though WP8's core will support a much wider variety of devices from low to high end. Even though it supports the same screen resolution etc etc.
Wasted 200$ on a dev account and a dead-end phone with a programming API that's now obsolete. I think I'll stick to desktop programming from now on
Don't worry, Someone always comes along and develops a hack, At some stage there will be WP8 running on WP7 hardware, People used to think WP7 on the HD2 was a pipe dream and moaned because of no update from WM 6.5, Anything is possible on here thanks to the hardworking Devs
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Don't worry, Someone always comes along and develops a hack, At some stage there will be WP8 running on WP7 hardware, People used to think WP7 on the HD2 was a pipe dream and moaned because of no update from WM 6.5, Anything is possible on here thanks to the hardworking Devs
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Thats not the point.... Ive been purchasing windows phone 7 devices for my work over a year now, thinking MS wont screw us over for a third time.
Mind you should have know they did the same with wm2003 to wm5 to wm6 now wp7 to wp8.
Tomorrow im gonna be pulling WP7 devices from our internal pages.
I feel sorry for all those poor people that just got the Lumia 900, i can be seeing loads of returns in the next couple of days. No point in keeping a device for 6 months then have people stop developing apps as they will be moving to wp8. At least wp7.5 apps will run on wp8 geeee thanks a bunch.
THANK YOU FOR SCREWING US OVER AGAIN MS.
Hopefully this is true.
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/06/20/w...siasts-btw-this-is-a-wp8-lumia-already-right/
how on earth does that page twist this
Microsoft today said that it plans to make Windows Phone 8 available to users who want to install it on their Windows Phone devices, even if their carrier and/or device manufacturer won't officially support the update. Specifically, this will apply to Windows Phone 8 devices only. So if a given WP8 device is not being updated by the carrier/manufacturer in an timely manner, Microsoft will provide an unapproved version of WP8 to those who don't want to wait for official updates/builds. Microsoft said the offering is meant to help appease enthusiasts and developers. Microsoft has yet to decide exactly how it will distribute the platform to such enthusiasts, and has not yet set guidelines for how the program will work. Microsoft said more details about the program will become available in the coming months. This update program does not apply to Windows Phone 7/7.5
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For current Lumia owners, if you’re an enthusiast, you won’t have to wait for WP7.8 which brings in the new homescreen and some other WP8 features.
You can apparently get WP8 unofficially.
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Microsoft said nothing of that sort. What they are talking about is allowing wp8 users to get updates without their carrier (unlike 7series)
So many duplicate threads!
Sorry guys, please continue this discussion in one of the others.
Closed.