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Want out of your cell plan for little or no money?

There is a way to get out of your contract with no ETF that isn't widely known
-Contract Transfer
Use a site like http://www.celltradeusa.com/ or something similar.
It's easier than trying to find a loop hole and it lets you get out of your contract without having to pay the ETF, all you have to pay is a $19.99 fee to list your contract.
What are the fees for the Get Out member?
Register a Get Out profile for Free! By creating a Get Out profile, Celltradeusa allows you to gauge interest in your plan before you decide to become a paid member.
There is a fee of $19.99 to gain unlimited access once you are satisfied with your response. The membership will not expire until you successfully transfer your contract responsibility to someone else.
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You don't have to put your phone up with the contract if you don't want to, if you do then you can add a price for it or just give it away.
http://www.celltradeusa.com/faq/
I used this process a year ago to get into a sprint contract without having to pay activation fees or anything, I simply transfered ownership of the plan, picked a plan to fit me, and started paying monthly.

does it really work or is this a scam?

Send me $50 and I'll tell you.

GaryJ51 said:
Send me $50 and I'll tell you.
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It really does work, it just puts you in contact with someone who wants to take over your contract. You don't have to go through them once you have someone to take it over, it can all be done through sprint.

But wait a moment. If you sell your cellphone like the HTC Evo for 500 on Ebay you can cancel for 200 bucks and still get 300 bucks extra minus Ebay fees and such but you get 250 still so yeah. Thats silly.

Yes this website does work, I used it to get onto someone's sero plan. Also sprint annually makes changes to their contract sometime after new years. Which allows you to get out off contract

Contract transfers are very common. Go on Craigslist and see how many people are trying to get somebody to take over their Clearwire account. That's how I got out of my contract with that joke of a service provider.
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ok let me get this straight
For $20 I can sell my contract to someone else,i don't have to pay the $200 eft, my name is no longer on that contract and I get to keep my evo!? Sounds too good to be true.
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why would i want out of my contract ? for 4 phones unlimited everything i pay 160 a month
At&t and Verizon cant match that

Sporkman said:
why would i want out of my contract ? for 4 phones unlimited everything i pay 160 a month
At&t and Verizon cant match that
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can i get your discount?

And what good is your Evo without a contract? Can use it on any one else's service can you? Verizon is different frequency? (or will it work?) But they are pricey anyway.
Dang I should have sold my unlimited AT&T account!!! I actually joked about that cause it was a great idea and whomever would not have had to do the limited plans. (with 1500 rollovers too!!!)
Hurt to let that go.

sablesurfer said:
And what good is your Evo without a contract? Can use it on any one else's service can you? Verizon is different frequency? (or will it work?) But they are pricey anyway.
Dang I should have sold my unlimited AT&T account!!! I actually joked about that cause it was a great idea and whomever would not have had to do the limited plans. (with 1500 rollovers too!!!)
Hurt to let that go.
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cuz i like the phone and the community but dont care much for cell phone companys and thier silly contracts

sablesurfer said:
And what good is your Evo without a contract? Can use it on any one else's service can you? Verizon is different frequency? (or will it work?) But they are pricey anyway.
Dang I should have sold my unlimited AT&T account!!! I actually joked about that cause it was a great idea and whomever would not have had to do the limited plans. (with 1500 rollovers too!!!)
Hurt to let that go.
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Unless you know somebody at Verizon that can get you in, they won't activate it. Some people say you can use some of the smaller providers, but that will vary. But, hey, you can use it for everything else besides phone and data. Like... camera?
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mrono said:
There is a way to get out of your contract with no ETF that isn't widely known
-Contract Transfer
Use a site like http://www.celltradeusa.com/ or something similar.
It's easier than trying to find a loop hole and it lets you get out of your contract without having to pay the ETF, all you have to pay is a $19.99 fee to list your contract.
You don't have to put your phone up with the contract if you don't want to, if you do then you can add a price for it or just give it away.
http://www.celltradeusa.com/faq/
I used this process a year ago to get into a sprint contract without having to pay activation fees or anything, I simply transfered ownership of the plan, picked a plan to fit me, and started paying monthly.
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Good to know, thanks mrono, curious what contract terms you selected, were you able to get deeper discounts as a Get In member or does Sprint verify any discount eligibility post transfer?

I did it with US Cellular, actually the salesman suggested it. I transferred my account to my baby mamas name and she got to use my phone ( she wanted my blackberry but didn't want to pay for one) it was a win win for me.

I have a free way:
Found this out by accident with at&t and recently did it twice more through verizon. Look at their coverage map ahead of time and find an area a good distance away that has zero coverage. Find a street in the town where the void is located. Get your story straight ahead of time. The first time I really did move into a spot that had no coverage. The other times I wanted out I just made up an excuse that I was moving due to work. Ask them if there is coverage. They will check and tell you no. Act disappointed and ask what your options are then. They will let you close your account with no ETF. Downside is you won't be able to port over your number though.

this site has been around for a while so it's definitely legit. There are usually a number of SERO accounts up on it. Only downside is you lose your number if you care about that. Sometimes it seems like I'm the only one attached to my cell phone number.

I was thinking of doing this to move from AT&T to T-Mobile but I wasn't sure what would happen to the contracts on the 3 lines of my family plan. I was told that I could transfer each line on my family plan separately to 3 different people.
The AT&T rep told me that after I transfered my accounts, each person taking over the line would have a month-to-month with no contract and could cancel at any time without paying an ETF. This sounded completely wrong to me so I called back later and a different rep told me the same thing.
I was sure the person taking over my account would be committed to the remainder of my original contract. Does it make any sense to anyone that they'd be able to cancel immediately without paying an ETF? Could it have something to do with how long I've been with AT&T or that I have a business premiere account?
Thanks,
Alan
P.S. Oops, sorry I just realized I posted this in a forum for a phone that's not on AT&T. Would still appreciate any info anyone has, thanks.

Sporkman said:
why would i want out of my contract ? for 4 phones unlimited everything i pay 160 a month
At&t and Verizon cant match that
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How do you get away with that??? I have only two phones on my account and I pay $160 unlimited everything.
I thought each extra phone was another $10 or $20??? four should be $200.

Nice try Sprint

I bought a new phone for my girlfriend on 01/21/12. (via telephone order)
-- and I transferred her number from Verizon.
I was told my plan will switch to a family plan effective on the day the phone is activated. I was even told exactly how much my next bill will be if the phone is activated on the day I receive it (estimated delivery date).
The phone was delivered on 01/23/12.
After activating it and calling them; they told me they were unable to transfer the number and that I'd have to call Verizon.
Well.. it was not until 01/29/12 that they finally transferred the number (after spending hours on the phone with Verizon/ Sprint)..
At one point (01/27/12) Sprint transferred me to a rep. in the specific department that deals with these things directly// whom told me there was no issues on their end and that it had to be something with Verizon. Frustrated, I had her wait on hold as I called Verizon, was transferred to Verizon's same department, and eventually made it a conference call between the three of us.
Anyways, I was checking out my new bill today and through the gigantic mess they throw at you in the monthly statement.. I figured out that they instead switched my plan for the entire month of January- therefore:
I was refunded the entire cost of my old plan for January.
I was billed for the new plan for the entire month of January.
Therefore, my bill was $30 more than it was supposed to be.
Just a reminder- make sure you look through all of your bills and do the math yourself!
AT&T tried to pull the same kind of thing with me last year when I switched over to Sprint.
Also-- I can confirm that Sprint has changed their discounts and they now only apply to the first line on your plan.
I asked a rep. about this and he replied "No, it is applied to the entire plan." but then said that each additional line is added in after (basically trying to confuse me with words).

least you got your money back

thats proration for you buddy. causes messy bills!

Success100 said:
thats proration for you buddy. causes messy bills!
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What he described is not pro-ration. It is reversing and backdating.

new billing sucks. my bill jumped like 30 bucks =( and thats with 20% discount

Shoulon said:
new billing sucks. my bill jumped like 30 bucks =( and thats with 20% discount
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yea because I work for sprint and deal with this billing issue DAILY, ill be happy to do the math for you since your so glad to exaggerate the billing change
129.99X.2 =25.998, fair assessment 26 bucks
new setup
110X.2 = 22. bucks, so lets pull that 400% exaggeration out of your statement please, no ones bill is impacted more that 6 bucks do the math, thanks!

mkzbdroid said:
yea because I work for sprint and deal with this billing issue DAILY, ill be happy to do the math for you since your so glad to exaggerate the billing change
129.99X.2 =25.998, fair assessment 26 bucks
new setup
110X.2 = 22. bucks, so lets pull that 400% exaggeration out of your statement please, no ones bill is impacted more that 6 bucks do the math, thanks!
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That's what sprint told me too. My bill is only going up 4 dollars a month....sure that seems OK. Would they mind if the amount I paid went down by "only 4 dollars"? I have a feeling they would. F them.
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I agree it sucks, but would you rather have sprint go out of business and be forced to choose from att and Verizon, me personally I would rather pay 4 bucks more and get network improvements and unlimited data
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mkzbdroid said:
I agree it sucks, but would you rather have sprint go out of business and be forced to choose from att and Verizon, me personally I would rather pay 4 bucks more and get network improvements and unlimited data
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I would rather pay what I agreed to pay and get what I was promised when I signed a contract. I am very close to going back to a dumb phone/iPod touch combo.
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mkzbdroid said:
yea because I work for sprint and deal with this billing issue DAILY, ill be happy to do the math for you since your so glad to exaggerate the billing change
129.99X.2 =25.998, fair assessment 26 bucks
new setup
110X.2 = 22. bucks, so lets pull that 400% exaggeration out of your statement please, no ones bill is impacted more that 6 bucks do the math, thanks!
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oh i'm so sorry you didn't catch how I said "yeah the new billing sucks. my bill went up like.. what was that word? LIKE 30 bucks. I'm free to exaggerate to any extent i care too. i never said it was fact or even false. I believe understanding comes before solving thank you. Don't take your frustration of hundreds of people annoying you with billing changes on me.

kingsway8605 said:
I would rather pay what I agreed to pay and get what I was promised when I signed a contract. I am very close to going back to a dumb phone/iPod touch combo.
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whoa! that was a stipulation of your contract!? then you, my friend, are 100% free and clear to leave sprint with NO Early Termination Fees, as Sprint has violated one of your mutual agreements.

stretchwookie said:
whoa! that was a stipulation of your contract!? then you, my friend, are 100% free and clear to leave sprint with NO Early Termination Fees, as Sprint has violated one of your mutual agreements.
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Yep. I had 3 lines and a 27 percent discount. My bill was going yo jump by 5 bucks or so. They let me out of the contracts on two lines and waived the ETFs on those two lines. Even offered me 100 bucks when I called inquiring about cancelling the remaining line for my speed issues placing my town. I am beyond happy with Sprint for this. It took one phone call...I got a nice person in Acct Services who knew the policy and procedure. It was all smooth and painless and now my mom and brothers lines are on T-Mobile and I go back to an ultra cheap single plan.
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Yamuu said:
I bought a new phone for my girlfriend on 01/21/12. (via telephone order)
-- and I transferred her number from Verizon.
I was told my plan will switch to a family plan effective on the day the phone is activated. I was even told exactly how much my next bill will be if the phone is activated on the day I receive it (estimated delivery date).
The phone was delivered on 01/23/12.
After activating it and calling them; they told me they were unable to transfer the number and that I'd have to call Verizon.
Well.. it was not until 01/29/12 that they finally transferred the number (after spending hours on the phone with Verizon/ Sprint)..
At one point (01/27/12) Sprint transferred me to a rep. in the specific department that deals with these things directly// whom told me there was no issues on their end and that it had to be something with Verizon. Frustrated, I had her wait on hold as I called Verizon, was transferred to Verizon's same department, and eventually made it a conference call between the three of us.
Anyways, I was checking out my new bill today and through the gigantic mess they throw at you in the monthly statement.. I figured out that they instead switched my plan for the entire month of January- therefore:
I was refunded the entire cost of my old plan for January.
I was billed for the new plan for the entire month of January.
Therefore, my bill was $30 more than it was supposed to be.
Just a reminder- make sure you look through all of your bills and do the math yourself!
AT&T tried to pull the same kind of thing with me last year when I switched over to Sprint.
Also-- I can confirm that Sprint has changed their discounts and they now only apply to the first line on your plan.
I asked a rep. about this and he replied "No, it is applied to the entire plan." but then said that each additional line is added in after (basically trying to confuse me with words).
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Yea.. if you make any type of change like a price plan change, cancel/restore lines, suspensions, anything mid cycle it will automatically cause pro ration or partial charges and credits on your bill. Which to be expected, the bill will be higher.. also your charged a month in advance.. its confusing but when you do the math if done correctly you will understand.. and the discount is only on the original monthly service cost for The plan alone.. not any extra added on like insurance or extra lines.. only the price of your plan
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I agree buddy. F*** sprint!!! They are really starting to nickle and dime the **** out of us. It seems like each month now sprint is trying to add a few bux here and a few there for some stupid excuse. They may be unlimited at the moment but I honestly believe they will be just like the other carriers in the next six months. How dare Anyone try to justify sprints actions latley. I signed with sprint November 2010 & I think my bill should not ever have been a penny more until they wanting me to sign that dotted line again...
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punwik said:
I agree buddy. F*** sprint!!! They are really starting to nickle and dime the **** out of us. It seems like each month now sprint is trying to add a few bux here and a few there for some stupid excuse. They may be unlimited at the moment but I honestly believe they will be just like the other carriers in the next six months. How dare Anyone try to justify sprints actions latley. I signed with sprint November 2010 & I think my bill should not ever have been a penny more until they wanting me to sign that dotted line again...
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I know that this may get the "omg you're a sprint fanboy!"!!" response but...
Why does Sprint get held to higher standards than the other carriers?
Like, are you seriously trying to claim that Verizon and At&t don't nickle and dime people? (lol)
And your last comment about how your "bill should not ever have been a penny more until signing on the dotted line again"...
Again, it's the same with the other carriers and you're foolish to think it isn't.
So I ask, why is Sprint held to a different standard?
As I always say if someone is this unhappy... you're always welcome to switch. I know I would if I was as mad as you seem to be. Maybe that's something you should look into.
Just don't expect that the other carriers are going to be any better. Because the grass isn't greener on the other side.
As much as people want to pretend it is.

Yeah our bill went up 40.00. They said that we don't get the extra line on the family plan for free anymore. I would honestly rather go to Verizon or AT&T, get chumped for change, and have good service everywhere I go. You can call it whatever you want to defend Sprint, but this is complete bull****. You sign a contract stating what you are entitled to pay, and they just throw in random **** that you have to pay for now? And then if you don't like it, you have to pay 350.00 to get out of your contract. Well I know where I'm going as soon as my contract is up.
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Dj21o said:
Yeah our bill went up 40.00. They said that we don't get the extra line on the family plan for free anymore. I would honestly rather go to Verizon or AT&T, get chumped for change, and have good service everywhere I go. You can call it whatever you want to defend Sprint, but this is complete bull****. You sign a contract stating what you are entitled to pay, and they just throw in random **** that you have to pay for now? And then if you don't like it, you have to pay 350.00 to get out of your contract. Well I know where I'm going as soon as my contract is up.
Sent from my GSII.
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Straight talk?
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Sprint whine thread no.23423523437
Not even exaggeratin'

Where's that guy that was TRYING to flame me on my own post lol... He is supposedly a sprint rep... F all of them & sprint
Edit: why OS this post in the dev section im confused!! O__o
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Get the Sprint Samsung S II Epic 4G for Only $.01-Free Activation

Hey guys you can save 199.00 and get this phone for a penny. No activation, save over 200.00.
You asking how.......easy
Until March 26, 2012 goto Amazon Wireless. All Sprint 4G phones are .01
Upgrades are not .01
Add a line/New Activations Only
I just got 1 for .01
Note: I am not spamming any website and I am not affiliated with Amazon or Sprint. I just want to spread the news so we can get some new equipment for almost free.

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Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwhat?
That is awesome.

2insane said:
Hey guys you can save 199.00 and get this phone for a penny. No activation, save over 200.00.
You asking how.......easy
Until March 26, 2012 goto Amazon Wireless. All Sprint 4G phones are .01
Upgrades are not .01
Add a line/New Activations Only
I just got 1 for .01
Note: I am not spamming any website and I am not affiliated with Amazon or Sprint. I just want to spread the news so we can get some new equipment for almost free.
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Grats on the new phone man I'm sure you are going to love it

I saw that this morning and picked up a white one (which is sold out everywhere in my area). ill be returning the current one.

2insane said:
Hey guys you can save 199.00 and get this phone for a penny. No activation, save over 200.00.
You asking how.......easy
Until March 26, 2012 goto Amazon Wireless. All Sprint 4G phones are .01
Upgrades are not .01
Add a line/New Activations Only
I just got 1 for .01
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This does not compute.
edit - Jeez. New customers only. Loyal Sprint customer already? Bend over.

Imaginos said:
This does not compute.
edit - Jeez. New customers only. Loyal Sprint customer already? Bend over.
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Pretty typical. Once you sign on that dotted line, they don't give a **** about you anymore. Pretty back asswards business model, but all of the carriers are the same now. Your screwed no matter who you go with...
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Amazon will get more of a kickback for a new customer than an upgrading customer. It's probably not in their best interest to offer this to a new customer.
If you had an evil friend though, they could sign up, get the phone, install RoamControl and push a modded PRL, and tether/stream constantly.

Their doing this to get rid of wimax phones. I advise waiting 1-2 months for the galaxy nexus if 4G is most important to you. Rumor has it that it will be released in a month exactly.

I just wanted to add something also. You get free 2 day shipping and also free gifts. A new car charger!!!!
Shipping Estimate: Mar 14, 2012
Delivery Estimate: Mar 16, 2012
Shipping Speed:
FREE Two-Day Shipping
Items Ordered: Price
Samsung Galaxy S II Epic Touch 4G Android Phone (Sprint) $0.01
[FREE GIFT] AmazonBasics Micro USB Universal Car Charger with Micro to Mini USB Adapter and Nokia Barrel Adapter $0.00
Cannot wait till Friday. Yippie!!!!

Hey guys you can save 199.00 and get this phone for a penny. No activation, save over 200.00.
You asking how.......easy
Until March 26, 2012 goto Amazon Wireless. All Sprint 4G phones are .01
Upgrades are not .01
Add a line/New Activations Only
I just got 1 for .01
Note: I am not spamming any website and I am not affiliated with Amazon or Sprint. I just want to spread the news so we can get some new equipment for almost free.
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During black Friday week, my family got 3 Samsung epic 4g touches from amazon wireless for .03 cents total! This is the same exact deal and its so worth it, love this phone
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I missed that deal, guess I wasnt really looking for a new phone at the time. Been happy with my HTC EVO, but well its just slow with all my apps and such. Need more memory and power.
But yes Sprints website shows it for 199.00. Plus nothing free. So you save big time. I hope its comparable to the EVO.
Lets just call this Dark March. Ends 3/26. But you can get any 4G phone for .01
But no Iphones. But heck a penny is better than 199.00.
enjoy the savings!!

I took advantage of this since I've been thinking of switching from T-Mobile to Sprint for the past few months. Just got my phone this morning and I already love it. Definitely worth my penny!

So when someone asks "How's the phone?" don't you dare say "Worth every penny."
or I'll punch you in the mouth.

I jumped from Verizon when they offered this on black friday. Got an Epic touch, Photon, Nexus S, and an HTC evo3d for less than a nickel. Had to exchange the Epic due to LoS and it couldn't have been easier. Highly recommend it if you can.

Imaginos said:
This does not compute.
edit - Jeez. New customers only. Loyal Sprint customer already? Bend over.
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Well kinda. Technically if ur adding a line that would make u a current customer. I just ordered one for my sister. That's the first time I've ever gotten something for a penny in my life.

veritasaequita said:
Well kinda. Technically if ur adding a line that would make u a current customer. I just ordered one for my sister. That's the first time I've ever gotten something for a penny in my life.
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Current customer, new service. Yeah. Nice opportunity to snag a new phone and activate it on your own # while passing on the old phone to the account you just had to buy to score the penny phone.
Unfortuntately, I don't need another line.

Just got two in the mail today. I found out about the deal a few days ago, decided to finally make the switch from AT&T. Also Amazon gives you free 2-day shipping.
Worth every penny

Unfortunately I found out about this on gizmodo X_X
But I could not believe it. I had a friend at work who got her Evo 4G for a penny during black friday 2 years ago. She said it was so easy to do and there weren't hidden fees.
I have been wanting to switch to sprint for months. I've decided that the Epic 4G touch is for me. Yes the camera is what is making me go crazy about it. It looks like an amazing phone too. Sam's club fluctuates the price between $45 and $99 and target has theirs for $99. Amazon had it for $100 first, then 74, and then 45. I could not believe how fast the prices were dropping. I know it was either because of the SGIII coming out soon or the galaxy nexus coming to sprint. I am fully aware of the GSIII and it will probably be awesome but I am fine with Epic Touch 4G. It will take a year or two for sprint's LTE to have wide coverage as well.
I am currently on a family plan with ATT with my iPhone 3GS and I will have to break the ETF ($165..like I'm waiting til december) but it will be worth it.
I have no credit though but I am so fortunate sprint is only charging me $50 for the fee. When I went to ATT 2 years ago trying to get a plan of my own they wanted to charge me $500 to hold for a year because I had no credit. WTF!?
I am a little nervous about the credit check though. I just went to sprint today and was told I have 30 days to start the service but after 30 days another credit check will be required. I don't want a lot of marks. I read on Amazon Wireless FAQ that amazon does not do the credit check and that it goes through the carrier. When I was having the credit check done the lady asked for my contact informations, social security, and asked how I want my billing set up and I got a confirmation email.
So my question is since I partially started singing up for Sprint will that be continued or restarted by going through amazon wireless? I went through almost all of the amazon wireless until they asked to run the credit check. I just don't want to have it checked twice in this fast duration of time. But nice that being on my own plan I will be able to build credit too
Thanks everyone and I'm glad that others are excited as well and I hope that the Epic 4G Touch has a good lifespan and community for a few years
Oh also I heard some people mentioning that you also get free 2 day shipping? Is that only if you have amazon prime? (used two prime trials already) or is that the promotion with amazon wireless. Like the waived activation fee if activated before march 19th. Thank you.

I jumped on this deal as well, I'm coming from a g2x that I still love for many reasons however this is too much of a good thing to pass up. I'm looking forward to Monday can't wait to pimp it out!
This will hold me over till we get the next galaxy
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I got a golden ticket!

The first six years of service were pretty damn good, and the price was great. However over the last three years, things just went to hell. Data rates slow as can possibly be, but I stayed with them because they were cheap. However back in October, my bill hit $280 after they just randomly removed my discounts, and then told me that they were no longer allowed to apply those coupons.
The "we'll upgrade it some day" network (there's nothing "now" about it, especially with $10 a month per phone for "premium" 2g speed data on towers they probably haven't upgraded in over 6 years) is no longer my network of choice. I live in the 6th largest city in the US and there's still no 4g from sprint, btw. Even a few small MVNO's in my area offer 4G. Sprint is a horrible name for this company, Crawl would be a more appropriate name.
For a while I've been trying to get off of sprint without ETF (it's totally unwarranted for what they've done to me,) and behold, the golden ticket has arrived:
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Based on what I've observed on my own account, and on that of others, is that it takes three consecutive billing cycles of excessive roaming, and you'll get the termination letter up to about 10 business days after the end of the third billing period.
I called 611 and asked for details, and at first the retentions guy told me it was only for one line (I didn't call the number on the letter because it was past 7 PM.) However I called that number the next day and they told me it was the whole account, and to give them a call right around the time that I port the numbers out and they'll remove the ETF.
Anyways, t-mobile has offered me unlimited voice, text, and 4g data for a little over half of what I am currently paying sprint for limited voice and utter crap data rates. Only thing is I have to front the cost for the nexus 4 phones from google (1,400ish for all of them,) which I am more than happy to do as I will easily make up for the cost over the next year, and everything after that is pure savings.

You probably could have just called up retentions and explained your situation to them. That's what I did well over a year ago and I was able to get out of my contract ETF free.

spencer88 said:
You probably could have just called up retentions and explained your situation to them. That's what I did well over a year ago and I was able to get out of my contract ETF free.
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I went well beyond that. I even had one of them tell me that my service quality was 100%, as in no dropped calls ever, so they weren't going to let me go (though that wasn't the reason I asked to get out, it is apparently the only reason they'll let somebody out). She said that the dropped calls must have been the person on the other end. I was baffled with that because I even called sprint earlier about a billing error (they make them every month, sometimes very egregious ones) and was either dropped or hung up on. She then told me that CSRs don't have the ability to hang up. So i said that either her metrics are wrong, or i was hung up on, and asked her which it was, and she kept dodging the question. But get this, later during that call I was dropped. She actually called back (!) and when I asked what that was, she said that she didn't know, but insisted that we have good service.
Anyways, I'm fairly certain that they wouldn't let me go because I was a high paying contract customer and never made any late payments in those 8 years. That is easily what sprint considers to be their most valuable customer outside of corporate contracts. Forcing their hand by making myself too expensive to be worth it was the only option.

Wow. I've been wondering about T-Mobile. My 3g speeds and home and work are so bad that I am literally forced to use a Verizon prl. I've been wondering if they will cancel me for about 7 months and I haven't received a letter or call yet. But since I switch to a sprint PRL when I'm in a sprint area, my data roaming and sprint data are usually pretty close. Wonder if that helps keep you from getting booted?
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Congrats . I'm planning on the same thing myself. In my area ( upstate NY ), the entire 2 year term of prior 4g wimax phone, never saw wimax, now still yet to see any lte, and sprint customer service is just going down the tube, if it was ever " up the tube " lol. Anyway,that t-mobile plan is something you were offered based on a discount/family/corporate? or that's standard...?
Edit: I wonder if they will ask me for the free AirRave 2.5 back as well...id sure love to take it apart and have some fun...

aaronagis said:
Wow. I've been wondering about T-Mobile. My 3g speeds and home and work are so bad that I am literally forced to use a Verizon prl. I've been wondering if they will cancel me for about 7 months and I haven't received a letter or call yet. But since I switch to a sprint PRL when I'm in a sprint area, my data roaming and sprint data are usually pretty close. Wonder if that helps keep you from getting booted?
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They probably just treat that as regular roaming, e.g. you occasionally roam. What I did was download a bunch of 1GB test files all the time:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html
I would forget to now and then, but I mostly kept up with it, one month using 61GB. Make sure you only download these when your phone is charging, it will drain your battery fast.
From what anecdotal data I've gathered, in addition to what a sprint rep accidentally let out of the bag about it being flagged only at the end of billing periods, excessive roaming for three consecutive billing periods does the trick. Doesn't have to be for a full billing period, even if you started roaming at the very end (which is when I started.) I got the letter 6 business days after the end of the third billing period.

I'm currently trying to find a way to get off Verizon without having to pay an ETF. :/
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Rakeesh_j said:
They probably just treat that as regular roaming, e.g. you occasionally roam. What I did was download a bunch of 1GB test files all the time:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html
I would forget to now and then, but I mostly kept up with it, one month using 61GB. Make sure you only download these when your phone is charging, it will drain your battery fast.
From what anecdotal data I've gathered, in addition to what a sprint rep accidentally let out of the bag about it being flagged only at the end of billing periods, excessive roaming for three consecutive billing periods does the trick. Doesn't have to be for a full billing period, even if you started roaming at the very end (which is when I started.) I got the letter 6 business days after the end of the third billing period.
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Lol that's what I've been doing... I started downloading 1gb files about 2 weeks ago racked up 10gb in the last 3 days of my billing cycle. And I will continue to do so until I get booted. I had a discount on my account from my job and without warning the discount was removed right after upgrading. I still work for the same company and multiple calls to sprint didn't help. My bill went from $150 for 2 lines to almost $200. Not only that my bills arent even consistent. And every month my bill seems to raise a few dollars more. Sprint keeps telling me its BC of rising taxes So I'm gonna rack up as much as I can until I get booted. :banghead:
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OMG this is great, I've been looking for a way out of my contract for months. Thanks

Good to know about sprint, I've always gotten decent speeds and signal with verizon but the cost sucks for one account. I guess sprint should really be toroMINUS, not toroplus. I'm also trying to get off Verizon without ETF like DirgeExtinction said. Currently using evasive minimalistic tactics.

7175 said:
Good to know about sprint, I've always gotten decent speeds and signal with verizon but the cost sucks for one account. I guess sprint should really be toroMINUS, not toroplus. I'm also trying to get off Verizon without ETF like DirgeExtinction said. Currently using evasive minimalistic tactics.
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Evasive minimalistic tactics? Do tell.
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Good work. My father had sprint for over ten years when we got out two years ago. The service here in San Antonio is really good. I had wimax years ago on my Evo.
I prefer Straight Talk BYOS program, unlimited everything and $45 a month. (I use work att and its okay, full LTE/HSPA+, same network and speed as ST since ST uses AT&T or T-Mobile towers). Check it out. Its a good option.
You'll love being GSM.

Your T-Mobile purchase experience

I hope your T-Mobile purchase experience was better than mine:
Ordered online through an organizational discount link (T-Mobile AdvantageDirect? )
Order placed on 9/20. It is 9/27 and I don't have my Samsung Galaxy S4 M919 yet.
I even got an email with my new phone number from T-Mobile.
Shipment Tracking number provided, but UPS claims they have no record of receiving a package from T-Mobile for that tracking number. T-Mobile claims they mailed it out on 9/24 with that tracking number.
Many calls to T-Mobile customer service to try to track down my new phone.
Saga continues...
Update 9/30/2013:
T-Mobile customer support contacted their offline support to try to locate the package, since 9/27, and still no word yet. After speaking to T-Mobile Customer Service and getting an OK from them, I went down to the local T-Mobile store (was crowded), showed them the existing paperwork and got a new Galaxy S4 with a new number in about 15 minutes, under the same organizational discount.
Canceled the online order.
Update 10/3/2013:
T-Mobile still can't locate the package, and it appears to be their policy not to process a refund ($159) until they locate the package they lost! I've called my credit card company to dispute that charge.
Update 10/4/2013:
Now they think I am trying to cancel the phone I bought at the local T-Mobile store (they got the phone number of my current S4 phone in this e-mail from them):
T-Mobile Handset Order Research Request
Handset Order Reference: XXX
Thank you for taking the time to contact T-Mobile. We are unable to send a mailing label for this order. Please return the equipment using a traceable shipping method to: 'Return Center TX 4500 Cambridge Road Ste 100 Door 3 Fort Worth, TX 76155'. If sent to any other address, we cannot guarantee proper processing or crediting of associated charges.
Thank You,
Handset Order Research Department
T-Mobile USA, Inc.
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Update 10/18/2013:
Still no sign of my refund yet. Credit Card company is investigating. T-Mo says they have escalated the issue, and that I should be receiving my refund soon. I suspect someone is picking off certain online orders before shipping, and selling them under the table or on the black market. There's no way a phone that has been activated and assigned a phone number can go missing like this.
Update 10/23/2013:
Still no refund yet. I called T-Mobile Customer Service and they said they'll escalate the issue (again). They don't make it easy to get a refund, even when the mistake was clearly theirs.
Update 10/25/2013:
I received a paper bill for cellular service ($121) for that lost phone! I called T-Mobile and after they transferred me thru 3 different support reps ("Buyers Remorse" Dept? ), they said they'll cancel that account/service and make a note not to refer that account to their Collections Dept for non-payment.
I received a credit of $159 (from my credit card company, Chase) for that lost phone back to my credit card. If T-Mobile doesn't respond to Chase within 45 days, that credit is mine to keep. Good Credit Card company Chase will show T-Mobile not to mess with customers.
Update 11/20/2013:
I received another bill for $121, this one warning me about possible Collections action if I don't pay. I guess the previous T-Mobile support rep didn't properly close out the account and billing. Another call (20 mins) to T-Mobile to sort out the issue. See letter I received (separate message in this thread).
Update 12/23/2013:
I received a bill for $3.30 from T-Mobile
I did call them again in late November, and they verified there was a zero balance on the account. Now this new amount looks the taxes on the amount they zeroed out. Looks like they just won't quit billing me. T-Mobile must have the most messed up billing/accounting department of all the major Carriers.

I went down the block to my tmobile store, bought it, walked out with it.
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elflip88 said:
I went down the block to my tmobile store, bought it, walked out with it.
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Do the physical stores honor organizational or corporate discounts (up to 20% off the regular prices)?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45987850

Nate2 said:
Do the physical stores honor organizational or corporate discounts (up to 20% off the regular prices)?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45987850
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Yeah, they do.

I bought it from staples and i was there 8 hours over 2 days. They fuked up the activation by entering dealer codes wrong, messed up security deposit amount, and some other stuff i forget. It took a long time to get it straightened out and the staples employee was yelling at them.

Oh well. I always buy directly from the T-Mobile website. I upgraded through Costco and Wirefly before but ever since T-Mobile came out with this new model, their website is the only place you can go through without getting something messed up.
So has you gotten it straightened out yet?
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My last 3 phones were purchased online (wirefly, letstalk) - no problems.
t-mobileorders.com has not been a good experience for me.

elflip88 said:
I went down the block to my tmobile store, bought it, walked out with it.
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Same here. They also did the online purchase option with me standing there so I'd be eligible for the $30/mo 5Gb prepaid plan. Couldn't have been better or easier.

Yeah, my experience was pretty awesome. It was a chick around my age (20) who laid out all the details, including pricing and whatnot so I wouldn't be confused, even though I already knew everything she was telling me. The whole process was essentially flawless, with the only problem being that they didn't have the Black S4 in stock so I had to get white -__-. Sorry your process sucked bro.

Walk in. Buy. Walk out. I just always try and make sure there is little to no talking. Especially when the reps try and sell me on a device I'm already there to buy. !!! I've been waiting 5 months for this device there is nothing you know that I already don't !!! I hate salesman
Sg4

I am now getting 2 identical sets of marketing flyers, etc. in the mail from T-Mobile. I guess someone needs to tell T-Mobile sales/marketing that one of my accounts (for which I never received a phone) is officially closed...
I'm getting very tired of calling them
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When my rear camera broke they sent me a new s4 in 3 days. I don't have insurance. The lady who trouble shot the camera with me was nice.
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wow this seems to be a terrible experience. you seem to have a lot of patience. i would have went off on everyone.

Last weekend I visited T Mobile and Sprint.
Here's the contrasting experiences...
T Mobile
My wife needed her first Smartphone. (Big day! She's joining the 21st Century!) We go to T Mobile to look at the new Samsung Galaxy Light. Great little affordable but shockingly powerful device. We walk into the store. The guy asks if he can help us. He points us to the Galaxy Light and leaves us alone until we need further assistance.
My wife and I play with the various smartphones as I show her the differences, we settle on the Light after about 25 minutes. I go to the guy int eh store and tell him I want one. He looks up my account, goes in the back to get the phone, registers it with her account, activates the SIM card, I swipe my credit card, the clerk and I make fun of my wife's texty phone from 5 years ago, and we leave. My total time with the clerk is MAYBE 5 minutes after I settled on buying the Galaxy Light.
No changes were needed on my plan. We have the simple 500MB data plan already. Just needed to buy the phone. Couldn't have been a better experience.
(I've had the same experience with the last 3 phones I've bought for myself at T Mobile. In and out no problem)
Sprint
Later that same day I take my mom to Sprint to get her first Smartphone. (The women in my life are really behind the technology curve. I don't knwo what to tell you.) Mom has a Sprint contract that she's only 4 months into so we're really stuck with Sprint for her.
We got to the store, we have to sign in so that we can speak with a cleark when they are ready rather than when we are ready. "Fortunately" there is an hour wait to speak with someone so we have time to show mom every smartphone in the store. We finally settle on the new Google Nexus 5. It's a good option for mom.
The cleark finally grants us the honor of speaking to someone about buying it. They give us a good option of selling her existing flip phone (Yup. I said flip phone.) back and getting a $10 credit on her bill for it for 24 months adn then charging $15 for the phone, then updraging her to a smartphone plan with mobile data...blah blah blah for a final total of $65 a month plus taxes. They go get the Nexus 5 and try to activate it. The system won't let them do it. The manager gets involved. No luck. An hour and fifteen minutes later (Total time in the store is now 2:15) the manager says we were quoted the wrong price because mom is not eligible to take advantage of that offer to sell her old phone back unilt January 1st. Then they basically show us the door.
I couldn't believe it. They wasted nearly 2 and a half hours of our time. Quoted it wrong. Then instead of finding a way to make an exception to eligibility rules and letting my mom buy the $450 phone and more than double her monthly bill like she wanted to (and was happy to do!) and told us to take a hike. They literally wouldn't not let mom switch her contract to a more expensive one and let her spend $450 on a phone. Refused to allow her to do this. Then just "See ya..." Not an offer to credit her bill $10 or something just to apologize. Not an offer to give a discount on the phone when we come back. Not a free case for it. Nothing. Conversely in T Mobile I've gone in with issue and they offer to give me a credit or something just because I had the problem.
These two stories happened on the same day. Two totally different results. I recomended that mom just suck up the buy out fee in her Sprint contract and move to T Mobile. It's worth it to avoid ever having to deal with that store again.

I had a very similar (positive) experience going to the local store. I was able to walk in and buy my SGS4 w/ discount as well as my wife's iPhone and then stop over and eat lunch before going back to work. It actually took them longer to make my lunch order than it did to purchase the phones. I also received follow-up calls from T-Mobile asking if I had any questions about the phone, account, or my bill.
Prior to this I went through Best Buy because I had gift cards, coupons, a promotional offer, and they price matched Wirefly when I asked why the phone was so expensive at their location. I had an equally nice experience at both locations, but it did take a while longer at BB because they had to go through some absurd online and call in service to port our numbers over. It was much harder to leave sprint because they didn't want to let me go as a customer and offered me no incentive to stay. I had to make 4 calls and speak with their entire chain of command to simply speak with a knowledgeable accounts manager that could assist me with the termination.
It also seems to be another one of those YMMV experiences, where the level of caring can change from store to store.

Bill I received from T-Mobile for the lost phone and no service (see 1st msg in this thread for history):
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I ordered my phone over the phone. It was a nightmare transferring my number. my order was delayed for reasons known only to t-mobile. Then I replaced it because it was defective. Took a month to receive credit for the replacement device.
Lesson learnt: do my business in a brick and mortar T-mobile store.

I went from Straight Talk to Tmobile, mainly because StraightTalk had really bad service, I had text messages that would arrive hours after they were sent or not at all. Also, I lost my phone in a cab.
Anyway, I went into (what I found out later) a non-corporate Tmobile store. Had the same outside branding, workers in the same outfits, had the phone displays, etc. I bought my S4 outright, transferred my phone number and signed up for the contract, no problems until they tried to sell me hardware insurance that I didn't want. I had to tell them no about 5 times, the final two times with a manager, who was acting as a closer with a real hard sell that I wasn't having. The final strategy was guilt, he made it seem like the sales girl would get in trouble if i didn't sign up for service. Why he thought this tactic would work on me I have no idea and had I not just spent all the time getting setup, I would have walked out.

I have to say my experience was great ordered my phone online waited about 3 days. Called tmo ported my number over with no problems and in less than 2 hrs I was up and running.

I literally just walked into the stoe, signed up for unlimited, bought my S4 and went home. It went pretty well.