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Mods,
I think that the greater part of the XDA community would agree that with the release of Gingerbread and the recent 3.70 OTA we are going to be seeing a lot of clutter in the forums specifically the development forums. I myself have found that it is getting harder and harder each day to sort through all of the new stuff that the developers are putting out there for us. Would it be possible to have sub-forums in the development forum dedicated to AOSP Roms/kernels, another sub-forum for Sense Roms/kernels, and another sub-forum for modifications and hacks?
I feel like this would give the community a better opportunity at seeing everything that these developers put all their hard work into and would eliminate the clutter in the forum. Just a suggestion.
I agree with what you posted, but do not agree where you posted it. I never mention "wrong section" as some of the members tend to say it more than anything else, but i believe there is a suggestion sub-forum to this site.
itsallsubliminal said:
I agree with what you posted, but do not agree where you posted it. I never mention "wrong section" as some of the members tend to say it more than anything else, but i believe there is a suggestion sub-forum to this site.
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Sorry,
Just noticed that I posted this in the development section. I had two tabs open and thought that I was in the suggestions forum. Thanks
jhoffy22 said:
Sorry,
Just noticed that I posted this in the development section. I had two tabs open and thought that I was in the suggestions forum. Thanks
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can't say i've never fell victim to that
I like the idea.
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+1 to this!
I like this idea......
this is an excellent idea
I like this.
+1 This should be a must!
I hate u, that shoulda been my idea LOL
Seriously tho, this is a great suggestion.
+1
Hopefully this catches one of the mods eyes and we can get something in motion here. It's just been overwhelming lately scrolling through the development forum and trying to stay up to date on everything thats new. I know that it isn't very likely to happen, but to further organize things not only would a section dedicated to AOSP and sense Roms be beneficial, but also a sub-forum for there respective kernels.
Or maybe even a sticky with an alphabetical list with links to the rom threads?
Would be nice
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add me to the +1 for this idea.
great idea!
good idea.
Moderators-Opinions?
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Moderators-Opinions?
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+1 this would be a great idea!!!!!!!!!!
So how can we get this thing set into motion?
Thought I'd mention this here, since it seems to be very fundamental and easy to follow on a lot of topics covered in many Q&A threads.
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/index.php
Thanks there are some awesome guides in that site
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artvandelay440 said:
Thought I'd mention this here, since it seems to be very fundamental and easy to follow on a lot of topics covered in many Q&A threads.
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/index.php
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Thanks for sharing, Art!
MIUI is good and performance is better, but I am not familiar with this ROM.
shark_seu said:
MIUI is good and performance is better, but I am not familiar with this ROM.
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um...methinks you got the wrong thread
artvandelay440 said:
Thought I'd mention this here, since it seems to be very fundamental and easy to follow on a lot of topics covered in many Q&A threads.
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/index.php
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Thanks for sharing this! I'm always looking for other resources!
I'd just like to say chime in as the site's Editor, and say;
If there's anything you'd like to see, or anything you'd like to learn more about that's not on there already, please do feel free to email me directly at [email protected]
Great post OP! thanks.
Over the next few days, I'm going to do a bit of tidying up in the various Defy sections.
The first part of that involves a new sticky in each section clearly stating what that section is for, what threads are or are not appropriate (ie no questions in the Dev section).
Hopefully this'll help cut down on the number of threads that need moving.
The proposed second part I would like some feedback on...
The act of stickying certain threads/guides/etc I've always found a little hit-and-miss and can inadvertently lead to unintended favouritism, not to mention you can eventually end up with a ridiculous number of threads stickied.
So the idea I had was that in the General and Dev sections (the two that currently have stickied threads), those threads would be un-stickied and replaced with a roll-up thread - kinda like this except there would be no other threads stickied along with it (other than the one mentioned in the first part that would explain the purpose of the section).
It's just a way of trying to keep the section as tidy as possible, though it's not the messiest, which is why I'm not 100% set on going ahead and would prefer to hear what people think.
A little clean up is a good idea.
I'm for a main roll-up thread in every section, that way the useful guides/infos will be easier to find/edit.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9
Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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Do something!!!
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What do you suggest?
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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nogoodusername said:
Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
support the idea fully (both), but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense. and the thread you linked didnt mention the 'all-in-one defy beginners guide' which i find very useful for everybody, so i think that should be involved too. and thanks for looking after the defy section, it did get quite messy over the last few weeks, months.
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What do you suggest?
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
Maybe put up azrionach's(from xdatv) video about noobs on 1st page?
All I want is Dev Section to be clean
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Kayant said:
Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
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I do nearly every day!!
Yesterday i reported 3 maybe!
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Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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crakeron said:
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
CM7 + CM9 double boot
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It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9
crakeron said:
How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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Similar to the one I linked-to, with a series of links to useful guides etc - except I'd probably go a step further and include a short description of what each thread contained.
There'd be one in this section and one in the Dev section.
zakoo2 said:
but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense.
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I agree.
And that's where I'd need your help - whilst I own a Defy my primary handset now is my Galaxy Nexus, so I'm just not as clued up on things here as the rest of you.
So whilst I'd do my best to keep it updated, if there was a thread you felt was missing from the roll-up, then you'd be best to PM me and I could add it.
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
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Unfortunately, there's no way to force people to pay attention/follow the rules/behave like vaguely-competent individuals.
So all we can do is react to people who have posted in the wrong section.
crakeron said:
Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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No, unfortunately the forum software doesn't allow for that.
I guess an alternative would be to have the 'roll-up' lists in the Defy Wiki where anyone can edit them and I would just have a link to them from the one sticky in each section.
niksy+ said:
It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
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Yeah, sure - that's exactly the sort of feedback that I'd want/need.
vap_66 said:
I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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Report them.
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Report them.
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Report them for what?
What category?
Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Report them for what?
What category?
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
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Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Ohk... just wanna keep defy forum clean! Thats all...
Bless u!
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I have alpha0 cm9 band id like to know if there are anni updatate with camera and youtube fix. There are a lot of bug (something apps crash, but isnt a most big problem). Can anyone tell me and post a link with the last update? I love this ROM!
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Dude, you are awesome... my hero (facepalm)
...tread reported
Why?
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read rules before posting
I have posted in dev section, where is the corret section?
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Can i delete or move this thread in correct section?
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There's no need. You may as well delete it. First off, most likely you won't get a reply because currently alpha0 is the latest version. Next, you've listed problems that developer is fully aware of and is working to fix them. Patience is needed. alpha1 is out on Saturday. You should pay attention to the forum posts for CM9.
In addition: questions DO NOT go in dev! ESPECIALLY not as their own thread. Please post in General from now on!
From the thread rules forum, second sticky down from the top (unbelievable that people miss this stuff )
[25/7/11] Updated Rules Of The Development Section **Please Read, Then Read Again**
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I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
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conantroutman said:
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
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Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
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Post What Where:
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
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MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
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conantroutman said:
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak.
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If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
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And finally, the most important line:
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So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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Sorry for breaking the rules myself in posting this.
Mod, please delete the thread already.
kalaker said:
In addition: questions DO NOT go in dev! ESPECIALLY not as their own thread. Please post in General from now on!
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Dude,
don't encourage him to post in General section...seems he's gonna SPAM the thread. i am so tired of such ppl...
hi
i am not a noob on android but yes as an user on XDA i try to make the 10 posts but each time i do the page send me the vulletin message...where are the places where i can post??
danis1997 said:
hi
i am not a noob on android but yes as an user on XDA i try to make the 10 posts but each time i do the page send me the vulletin message...where are the places where i can post??
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You can only post in non development threads. Just help 10 people in the Q&A threads and you will be fine.
zelendel said:
You can only post in non development threads. Just help 10 people in the Q&A threads and you will be fine.
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thanks man i think i understand how to make them
i've posted 10... but still can't post on developement
LubY1978 said:
i've posted 10... but still can't post on developement
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Promotion may be delayed a bit. Be patient, this is to prevent spammers from making 10 quick posts and spamming all over the place
feyodo said:
I am new one here , I also want to make 10 posts ,but it is so slowly , I have a lot of problems to be solved ，Butd it is need so me time
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Not being able to post is a good time to use the search button. Wont it be awesome to say "I found the answer myself!" ?
A tip : I find the xda app search to k8nd of suck (sorry guys its true) so either use "web view" or what I do isvuse google and put xda as a constant key word.
The thing is, a lot of times everything is found in your devices q&a section. And you dont need to havev10 posts for that.
Also most device forums tell you "all q&a go in the q&a sub forum" as part of the devices forums rules.
Are you like me and love to help ?
(hey dont roll your eyes me! )
Why not hang out in q&a for a bit?
You can help other and ask all your questions!
Great way to build up your post count!
feyodo said:
I am new one here , I also want to make 10 posts ,but it is so slowly , I have a lot of problems to be solved ，Butd it is need so me time
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If you have problems and you need the help of others to solve them then more likely than not your question belongs in the Q&A forum for your device. If you want to answer questions then you can do that in the Q&A as well. Either way, you'll either not need 10 posts because you have nothing to post in a dev thread or you'll easily be able to manage 10 posts because you are a dev and find it easy to answer questions.
Be patient...make the posts on home/forum/general,android,Q&A.....you can't on any device on development forum
That is a good point it seems like every where I try to post is not aloud I don't wanna be intrusive on threads just need some help
You wont find any help posting questions in the development threads anyway. All you will get is a bunch of people telling to post in the Q&A section.
I wish there was an easier way myself. I have been coming here since 2010 to read and find answers, but when I recently had an issue I couldn't find discussed I found I couldn't post.
I ubder stand though.
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BradEK said:
I wish there was an easier way myself. I have been coming here since 2010 to read and find answers, but when I recently had an issue I couldn't find discussed I found I couldn't post.
I ubder stand though.
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Look through the q&a section and answer questions and help people. You've been around long enough to know stuff, it shouldn't be hard to put out some effort to help..
BradEK said:
I wish there was an easier way myself. I have been coming here since 2010 to read and find answers, but when I recently had an issue I couldn't find discussed I found I couldn't post.
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You've been a member of XDA for three years and this is the first part you've made! Hardly joining in with the community is it!
By now you should be an expert on your device, so get out there and HELP others in your device's forum with their problems. You'll easily get to 10 posts if you share some of your knowledge :banghead:
Man Man..we already have 2 threads with same meaning & different titles.
1st one -> Alternative to 10 post rule
2nd one -> 10 post RULE is it helpful or harmful - Closed
Now, this is created again. I think we must ask MOD to take necessary action.:angel:
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You've been a member of XDA for three years and this is the first part you've made! Hardly joining in with the community is it!
By now you should be an expert on your device, so get out there and HELP others in your device's forum with their problems. You'll easily get to 10 posts if you share some of your knowledge :banghead:
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Well. I had an original Droid back then. I switched over to iOS for some time and now I'm back on Android.
With a Note 2, Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus all rooted and with alternate ROMs I have more reason to stick around now.
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zelendel said:
You wont find any help posting questions in the development threads anyway. All you will get is a bunch of people telling to post in the Q&A section.
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work for my 10 post, open my block..
I think this thread has served its purpose and is becoming a hub for new people to complete 10 posts. How about a lock?
A Hero Can Be Anyone.
the development section has the custom roms though which is the only way to get help on installation from the creators
crampedagain said:
the development section has the custom roms though which is the only way to get help on installation from the creators
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I don't know what you're talking about, the installation instructions are always in the first post..
crampedagain said:
the development section has the custom roms though which is the only way to get help on installation from the creators
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kilometers4 said:
I don't know what you're talking about, the installation instructions are always in the first post..
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And even if they somehow aren't, there are numerous guides for flashing every device so you should never have to ask a question like that in the first place.