Develop Bugs

Tidying-up/over-hauling the stickies etc

Over the next few days, I'm going to do a bit of tidying up in the various Defy sections.
The first part of that involves a new sticky in each section clearly stating what that section is for, what threads are or are not appropriate (ie no questions in the Dev section).
Hopefully this'll help cut down on the number of threads that need moving.
The proposed second part I would like some feedback on...
The act of stickying certain threads/guides/etc I've always found a little hit-and-miss and can inadvertently lead to unintended favouritism, not to mention you can eventually end up with a ridiculous number of threads stickied.
So the idea I had was that in the General and Dev sections (the two that currently have stickied threads), those threads would be un-stickied and replaced with a roll-up thread - kinda like this except there would be no other threads stickied along with it (other than the one mentioned in the first part that would explain the purpose of the section).
It's just a way of trying to keep the section as tidy as possible, though it's not the messiest, which is why I'm not 100% set on going ahead and would prefer to hear what people think.

A little clean up is a good idea.
I'm for a main roll-up thread in every section, that way the useful guides/infos will be easier to find/edit.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Do something!!!
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What do you suggest?

Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
CM7 + CM9 double boot

nogoodusername said:
Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.

support the idea fully (both), but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense. and the thread you linked didnt mention the 'all-in-one defy beginners guide' which i find very useful for everybody, so i think that should be involved too. and thanks for looking after the defy section, it did get quite messy over the last few weeks, months.
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Step666 said:
What do you suggest?
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
Maybe put up azrionach's(from xdatv) video about noobs on 1st page?
All I want is Dev Section to be clean
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Kayant said:
Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
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I do nearly every day!!
Yesterday i reported 3 maybe!
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Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
CM7 + CM9 double boot

crakeron said:
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
CM7 + CM9 double boot
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It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?

I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

crakeron said:
How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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Similar to the one I linked-to, with a series of links to useful guides etc - except I'd probably go a step further and include a short description of what each thread contained.
There'd be one in this section and one in the Dev section.
zakoo2 said:
but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense.
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I agree.
And that's where I'd need your help - whilst I own a Defy my primary handset now is my Galaxy Nexus, so I'm just not as clued up on things here as the rest of you.
So whilst I'd do my best to keep it updated, if there was a thread you felt was missing from the roll-up, then you'd be best to PM me and I could add it.
nogoodusername said:
Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
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Unfortunately, there's no way to force people to pay attention/follow the rules/behave like vaguely-competent individuals.
So all we can do is react to people who have posted in the wrong section.
crakeron said:
Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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No, unfortunately the forum software doesn't allow for that.
I guess an alternative would be to have the 'roll-up' lists in the Defy Wiki where anyone can edit them and I would just have a link to them from the one sticky in each section.
niksy+ said:
It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
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Yeah, sure - that's exactly the sort of feedback that I'd want/need.
vap_66 said:
I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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Report them.

Step666 said:
Report them.
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Report them for what?
What category?
Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Report them for what?
What category?
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
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Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.

Step666 said:
Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Ohk... just wanna keep defy forum clean! Thats all...
Bless u!
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Development Threads. Please keep comments in general.

A mod has had to delete a thread for maintainance and explicitly tell people not to post off topic only to have the same thing just continue one thread over in the racing build thread unless that is really 13 pages of useful information. Instead of telling to people to stay on topic and continue the trend I made this post.
Could everyone keep the dev threads to dev posts. If you have a bug make a logcat. If you want to say thanks start a single thanks thread in general, I am not sure if thats kosher but at least if the mods have a problem with such thanks thread they can just delete it without having to go through and look for actually useful posts.
Mods on this
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There is a Thanks button, use it.
Do not post Woop! Or nice job! or anything else that has nothing else to do with Development or this thread will be closed. I am sick of clearing out blathering.
Development discussion only.
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Even the devs want you to stay on topic on their threads
Racing19969 said:
Thanks everyone. let's please keep this on topic so it does not get shutdown
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The mods could delete this thread if they dont think it helps

Bro, I have no idea what you said but I think I agree

we had to clean up a lot of useless comments in that topic which were nothing related to development at all
please keep all chatters in General
feel free to open a new topic for the specific ROM in question
but do not CLUTTER the Development topic with comments that provides no value in the development.

I feel for you guys, You post that people not to go off topic then people posting like you didnt just tell them not to go off topic.

The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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degeneration said:
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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I think they should probably close the thread for a day or two which would force people to make a thread in general. The mod warnings seem to be immediately ignored
look at this gem which obviously belongs here
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Excuse me for my question but does that mean T-Mobile will send out the real ICS update soon?? My phone isn't rooted because I'm having problems with Odin opening. Thanks for the info.
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this is aside from all the variations of posts with know bugs followed by a thanks

It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
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Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.

jim93 said:
Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
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They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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Beefvvl said:
They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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People are reporting them and the mods are aware. Allgamer posted on this thread that they are aware of it. It just keeps coming from different posters.

Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.

degeneration said:
Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
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Aside from the fact that people are reporting people, it just doesnt stop and keeps going faster than the 60 second between reports rule sometimes

Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.

I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?

ICS is awesome, but a lot of n00bs I have never seen post a single comment around here started posting out of nowhere lol.
I'm going to do something productive rather than be annoyed by these n00bs. I suggest you guys do the same.

I came from the G2 forum and own a sensation also. There seem to be more inconsiderate people here than either of those forums. I for one am glad those threads got shut down.
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dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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it would be opened shortly, but should be closed for now until it is cleaned up or until raver updates the ROM. So don't think it's the end of the world.

Well this sucks.. guess were stuck.
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degeneration said:
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
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suddenly people are going to post here about how they suddenly care after the fact. The whole point of this thread was to keep the ot posts down so that the threads are not closed.

dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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its in ravers sourceforge so he can update the rom and still have the same link

new update CMW update.zip versio

Hey Guys,
are there any plans by XDA faithful developers to import the new AT&T update (7/10/2012) as a cmw flashable zip?
since those of us who rooted and have CMW installed cannot update, it will fail.
we need to either flash new stock recovery to do it. wecan either reflash root66 to get stock recovery back, use voodoo ota root keeper and do the ota update. or if someone make the update into a cwm flashable zip and you can just flash that in cwm.
anyone knows of such plans?
thank you.

This is not development. Why did you post this here? Reporting this to moderators. You should've posted this in the "General" or "Q & A" sections.

task650 said:
This is not development. Why did you post this here? Reporting this to moderators. You should've posted this in the "General" or "Q & A" sections.
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Like me i can't see other forums on my phone
In GS3 section only developer forum. Im missing something?
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task650 said:
This is not development. Why did you post this here? Reporting this to moderators. You should've posted this in the "General" or "Q & A" sections.
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feel free to report to god him self.
instead of being a smart a$$ simply write this is not right forum and i will be more then happy to delete the post and post in the appropriate location.
apologize for not knowing the A and B's of posting a question.
that being said, since the needed modification is done by developers rather then a generalist, and in fact one developer is needed to create such an update.zip file, adding to the fact not all sub forums are shown it was posted here.
if it hurt u so much, please accept my apology, i do not understand how a threat of "i am reporting you" should scare me... not sure...
that being said, i have reposted this in the Q&A section.

Try the search function. If you did you would see there is one in general.
I would give link but I don't spoon feed lazy people information.
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Get pissy all you want, but there are stickies in each section that describe where what kinds of posts go where.
Yours is in the wrong place. Again. You need to stop, read the FAQ and rules, and think before posting. You now have 2 threads started in Development that are going to be locked. We're not being asses, there's already enough clutter to sort through without stuff like this in Development.

norbarb said:
Like me i can't see other forums on my phone
In GS3 section only developer forum. Im missing something?
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Log out then log back in and they should all appear for you.

Forum police is strong in this thread.
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works
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Log out then log back in and they should all appear for you.
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it works...thanks..

m.a.s.e said:
feel free to report to god him self.
instead of being a smart a$$ simply write this is not right forum and i will be more then happy to delete the post and post in the appropriate location.
apologize for not knowing the A and B's of posting a question.
that being said, since the needed modification is done by developers rather then a generalist, and in fact one developer is needed to create such an update.zip file, adding to the fact not all sub forums are shown it was posted here.
if it hurt u so much, please accept my apology, i do not understand how a threat of "i am reporting you" should scare me... not sure...
that being said, i have reposted this in the Q&A section.
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Lol. I'm sorry but I can't help the fact that you are so emotionally unstable enough to take my whole post out of context.
1) I made absolutely no smart ass remarks.
2) because something that needs to be done by a developer doesn't mean that the question about it belongs in the development section. Read the rules dude.
3) there was no threat of "I'm reporting you!" There was a statement that said I was reporting the post. That means I was reporting to move it to the correct forum. Get with it and actually read. Emotions do not belong here in a development forum.
4) because of you outburst for no reason at all its very clear that you don't belong here on xda. Grow up please. Thanks. Have a good day!

m.a.s.e said:
feel free to report to god him self.
instead of being a smart a$$ simply write this is not right forum and i will be more then happy to delete the post and post in the appropriate location.
apologize for not knowing the A and B's of posting a question.
that being said, since the needed modification is done by developers rather then a generalist, and in fact one developer is needed to create such an update.zip file, adding to the fact not all sub forums are shown it was posted here.
if it hurt u so much, please accept my apology, i do not understand how a threat of "i am reporting you" should scare me... not sure...
that being said, i have reposted this in the Q&A section.
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Lol. I'm sorry but I can't help the fact that you are so emotionally unstable that you took my whole post out of context.
1) I made absolutely no smart ass remarks.
2) because something that needs to be done by a developer doesn't mean that the question about it belongs in the development section. Read the rules dude.
3) there was no threat of "I'm reporting you!" There was a statement that said I was reporting the post. That means I was reporting to move it to the correct forum. Get with it and actually read. Emotions do not belong here in a development forum.
4) because of your outburst for no reason at all its very clear that you don't belong here on xda. Grow up please. Thanks. Have a good day!

m.a.s.e said:
feel free to report to god him self.
instead of being a smart a$$ simply write this is not right forum and i will be more then happy to delete the post and post in the appropriate location.
apologize for not knowing the A and B's of posting a question.
that being said, since the needed modification is done by developers rather then a generalist, and in fact one developer is needed to create such an update.zip file, adding to the fact not all sub forums are shown it was posted here.
if it hurt u so much, please accept my apology, i do not understand how a threat of "i am reporting you" should scare me... not sure...
that being said, i have reposted this in the Q&A section.
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U better be skurd, the xda po po got a warrant for ur post deletion lol
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problem making 10 posts...

hi
i am not a noob on android but yes as an user on XDA i try to make the 10 posts but each time i do the page send me the vulletin message...where are the places where i can post??

danis1997 said:
hi
i am not a noob on android but yes as an user on XDA i try to make the 10 posts but each time i do the page send me the vulletin message...where are the places where i can post??
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You can only post in non development threads. Just help 10 people in the Q&A threads and you will be fine.

zelendel said:
You can only post in non development threads. Just help 10 people in the Q&A threads and you will be fine.
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thanks man i think i understand how to make them

i've posted 10... but still can't post on developement

LubY1978 said:
i've posted 10... but still can't post on developement
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Promotion may be delayed a bit. Be patient, this is to prevent spammers from making 10 quick posts and spamming all over the place

feyodo said:
I am new one here , I also want to make 10 posts ,but it is so slowly , I have a lot of problems to be solved ，Butd it is need so me time
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Not being able to post is a good time to use the search button. Wont it be awesome to say "I found the answer myself!" ?
A tip : I find the xda app search to k8nd of suck (sorry guys its true) so either use "web view" or what I do isvuse google and put xda as a constant key word.
The thing is, a lot of times everything is found in your devices q&a section. And you dont need to havev10 posts for that.
Also most device forums tell you "all q&a go in the q&a sub forum" as part of the devices forums rules.
Are you like me and love to help ?
(hey dont roll your eyes me! )
Why not hang out in q&a for a bit?
You can help other and ask all your questions!
Great way to build up your post count!

feyodo said:
I am new one here , I also want to make 10 posts ,but it is so slowly , I have a lot of problems to be solved ，Butd it is need so me time
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If you have problems and you need the help of others to solve them then more likely than not your question belongs in the Q&A forum for your device. If you want to answer questions then you can do that in the Q&A as well. Either way, you'll either not need 10 posts because you have nothing to post in a dev thread or you'll easily be able to manage 10 posts because you are a dev and find it easy to answer questions.

Be patient...make the posts on home/forum/general,android,Q&A.....you can't on any device on development forum

That is a good point it seems like every where I try to post is not aloud I don't wanna be intrusive on threads just need some help

You wont find any help posting questions in the development threads anyway. All you will get is a bunch of people telling to post in the Q&A section.

I wish there was an easier way myself. I have been coming here since 2010 to read and find answers, but when I recently had an issue I couldn't find discussed I found I couldn't post.
I ubder stand though.
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BradEK said:
I wish there was an easier way myself. I have been coming here since 2010 to read and find answers, but when I recently had an issue I couldn't find discussed I found I couldn't post.
I ubder stand though.
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Look through the q&a section and answer questions and help people. You've been around long enough to know stuff, it shouldn't be hard to put out some effort to help..

BradEK said:
I wish there was an easier way myself. I have been coming here since 2010 to read and find answers, but when I recently had an issue I couldn't find discussed I found I couldn't post.
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You've been a member of XDA for three years and this is the first part you've made! Hardly joining in with the community is it!
By now you should be an expert on your device, so get out there and HELP others in your device's forum with their problems. You'll easily get to 10 posts if you share some of your knowledge :banghead:

Man Man..we already have 2 threads with same meaning & different titles.
1st one -> Alternative to 10 post rule
2nd one -> 10 post RULE is it helpful or harmful - Closed
Now, this is created again. I think we must ask MOD to take necessary action.:angel:

SimonTS said:
You've been a member of XDA for three years and this is the first part you've made! Hardly joining in with the community is it!
By now you should be an expert on your device, so get out there and HELP others in your device's forum with their problems. You'll easily get to 10 posts if you share some of your knowledge :banghead:
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Well. I had an original Droid back then. I switched over to iOS for some time and now I'm back on Android.
With a Note 2, Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus all rooted and with alternate ROMs I have more reason to stick around now.
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zelendel said:
You wont find any help posting questions in the development threads anyway. All you will get is a bunch of people telling to post in the Q&A section.
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work for my 10 post, open my block..

I think this thread has served its purpose and is becoming a hub for new people to complete 10 posts. How about a lock?
A Hero Can Be Anyone.

the development section has the custom roms though which is the only way to get help on installation from the creators

crampedagain said:
the development section has the custom roms though which is the only way to get help on installation from the creators
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I don't know what you're talking about, the installation instructions are always in the first post..

crampedagain said:
the development section has the custom roms though which is the only way to get help on installation from the creators
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kilometers4 said:
I don't know what you're talking about, the installation instructions are always in the first post..
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And even if they somehow aren't, there are numerous guides for flashing every device so you should never have to ask a question like that in the first place.

please port a rom

please port some kind of rom

Please unlock the bootloader, then.

Boot loader doesn't need to be unlocked for a port. According to thecubed that is. :thumbup:
I will be starting to learn how to make Roms tomorrow.
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there's already a good rom based on the stock one in V8 but the developer is on a chinese forum
i will try to convince him to post on xda too

daredevil061305 said:
please port some kind of rom
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Please post in the correct section.
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Please obey forum rules, or learn how to read.

link12245 said:
Please obey forum rules, or learn how to read.
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No need to be mean guys, though it is understandable.
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Jammol said:
No need to be mean guys, though it is understandable.
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I appreciate your optimism and generally good attitude. However, juniors who don't read the rules and have a general disregard for the organization and structure of this community are a detriment. They create extra work for moderators who volunteer their time and make finding information substantially more difficult for users of the site.
If memory serves me well, one of the rules is not to ask for development or etas, though it's been a while since I've peeked at them. Another is certainly posting in the correct forum - which this is not.
I'm going to be blunt, I don't think junior members should be allowed to post in the development sections. Moderators should have the ability to upgrade to a regular member at any time if they see a junior acting accordingly. Likewise, if you post in wrong sections and then abandon the section without reporting your post to a moderator to be closed along with an apology, you should be demoted to a junior for some time. This would prevent a cluttered mess to have to sift through.
It's bad enough we have a severe lack of development due to exclusivity and bootloader issues without the added stress of clutter. I'm not hating on the Op but it sure is disrespectful and I'm sure most will agree with me that it isn't appreciated or beneficial by anyone.
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Jammol said:
Boot loader doesn't need to be unlocked for a port. According to thecubed that is. :thumbup:
I will be starting to learn how to make Roms tomorrow.
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All the best ..hope u come out wit some good clean roms..
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Whoa let's not turn this into a mod hating thread man. I completely agree with the both of you though. It can definitely get frustrating though. I was just saying to the other guy that said the op needs yo learn how to read. I just that part was uncalled for.
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2nd.... noobs, juniors, seniors or moderators we are all on a learning curve and should respect all with patience. Everyone has asked a dumb question, a question that might have already been answered etc. I have and I can only assume all the moderators and or senior members have done the same. gentle reminder rather than coming down on members should be at hand. chill...... this should be an enjoyable situation for all....

scott0 said:
this forum is a disaster and not because of misplaced posts, in fact, just the opposite. we have 12 ****ing mods for this forum, 12.
that's prolly more than peeps posting in here. and they are the ones that **** up the forum moving threads around almost willy nilly.
i ask what peeps are using their qbutton for in the gen forum, that thread got moved to help. umm wtf.
get rid of 11 of the 12 mods and teach the one remaining about which threads go where.
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Also, many topics are directed to the big "discuss" thread. (the one that was started before this forum even existed, with a ton of useless junk) Why make people go through that? It's convenient to only read threads of interest...
And why mess with threads that have been dead for days?

mgd76 said:
Also, many topics are directed to the big "discuss" thread. (the one that was started before this forum even existed, with a ton of useless junk) Why make people go through that? It's convenient to only read threads of interest...
And why mess with threads that have been dead for days?
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No, they are directed to be posted in general or Q&A. That's not difficult at all. This post has no place in the development section, period. It's not hard to read the rules and post in proper sections.
This isn't a debate, this is in the wrong section. Development goes in development. Questions in Q&A. Accessories in accessories. Everything else falls in general.
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lessthanzach said:
No, they are directed to be posted in general or Q&A. That's not difficult at all. This post has no place in the development section, period. It's not hard to read the rules and post in proper sections.
This isn't a debate, this is in the wrong section. Development goes in development. Questions in Q&A. Accessories in accessories. Everything else falls in general.
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I'm referring to the five recently locked topics in the general section... So, if not many, certainly more than a few.

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I'm referring to the five recently locked topics in the general section... So, if not many, certainly more than a few.
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Didn't see those until you mentioned it. That seems ridiculous to me too. In fact I've never seen something like that done in other phone forums. I can imagine it being done for duplicate threads but forcing us to use s single thread seems ridiculous.
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First OP Thread Closed & Moved out of the Development Section I will ask you to read the Forum Rules on Posting.
The Moderation Team is made of volunteers and they are Members just like you, if you see threads and or posts out of place...report them, vice posting in this manner.
The Moderation Team can not be in all threads,...again if you find threads that need addressing report it, we rely on Members to point out issues/violations.
Thank You.