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[Q] Is there a rom where messaging doesnt slow down and die?

Hey everyone,
I seem to have issues with the desire Z same as my g1
This is really pissing me off cause i bought the desire z with all its extra processing power and ram thinking it would fix it up... but it hasnt. so i could of saved money and stayed with the g1.
My problem is that text messaging slows right down to the point it just frustrates me.
You open a message and it takes a few seconds to load on the screen then you type and hit send, takes another 10secs for the message to update on screen and then send.
Hit back to go back to ur list of messages and then wait longer for it to load that.
Like what the hell? Surely something can be done to keep it running well?
It seems to be the same with the std messaging app, the HTC one and also handcent.
They all seem to start doing the same thing and being slow and annoying.
Why? I dont get it? why?
Even if i limit the messages to delete at 200 it still is slow and horrible.
So anyway i am really hoping that someone will offer me some salvation and help me get a phone that i can message from and not get annoyed.
Thanks

How many messages do you have?

ante0 said:
How many messages do you have?
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bout 3000 total

thats definitely alot. isnt there an sms apk that allows you to batch the messages? I believe handcent has it. that would kind of zip them temporarily

Just use Handcent, never had any slowdowns

I actually had the same issue at one point, ended up losing all my messages due to some weird glitch (probably too many messages).
Thought to myself, is there any reason to actually keep ALL the messages that far back? Probably not. Set hard limits on how many texts before it wipes older texts and never had an issue since.
I dislike Handcent solely due to advertisements. I'd rather keep my data plan limited to more useful things than ads. (Not that I don't support the devs, but I don't have unlimited or cheap data plan up here in Canada, heh.)

blunted09 said:
thats definitely alot. isnt there an sms apk that allows you to batch the messages? I believe handcent has it. that would kind of zip them temporarily
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Dont know what you are meaning? But handcent lets it so it has a "click here to see older messages thing" Which i have enabled but has not changed anything.
Lennyuk said:
Just use Handcent, never had any slowdowns
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I am using handcent and it is pissing me off. I try and send a message and hit send. if i push the power button before it comes up on screen (which takes about 10 seconds) then it wont send the message till i turn the phone on again and wait for it to display on the screen.
I dont get it.
CWolfCW said:
I actually had the same issue at one point, ended up losing all my messages due to some weird glitch (probably too many messages).
Thought to myself, is there any reason to actually keep ALL the messages that far back? Probably not. Set hard limits on how many texts before it wipes older texts and never had an issue since.
I dislike Handcent solely due to advertisements. I'd rather keep my data plan limited to more useful things than ads. (Not that I don't support the devs, but I don't have unlimited or cheap data plan up here in Canada, heh.)
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I might try setting them all to delete at about 100 instead of 200? See if that makes a difference?
The htc messaging app is annoying cause when you click send it comes up with "please wait" on the screen and you cannot do anything till that finishes. I am going ot try the standard one to see if that happens or not.
Thanks for the suggestions. i will try removing old messages and i have set the limit to 150.

there is an option in handcent under the menu settings that allows u to specifically batch a certain amount of messages i think! im using chompsms now as i think its much faster. try that one out

i tried to change it to 150 message limit, and nothing got deleted, then tried to use an app to delete some, then somehow all of my messages got wiped when messaging app crashed. so now i have none hahaha.
but it is running much quicker. I will try and keep the limit of messages down and see how it goes.
Thanks everyone

its the sense thats slowing it down so.
I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.
Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.

ck_jun said:
its the sense thats slowing it down so.
I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.
Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.
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To be fair though, you've changed a whole lot of stuff, and not just Sense, going to Cyanogen. So do we really know Sense is the main culprit here ?

ck_jun said:
its the sense thats slowing it down so.
I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.
Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.
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Thanks for that.
There is a couple of things i like about sense, but not a lot.
i dont like the interface, i like the dialer. and the icons. But yea.
I might give CM6 a try.
Thanks for the feedback

why the hell would anyone have 6000 text's?

dietotherhythm said:
why the hell would anyone have 6000 text's?
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why the hell not?
for me deleting text messages is like deleting emails - you don't do that anymore, you archive stuff.

I know how you feel though. I love the Sense UI because it's such eye candy but when it comes to storing messages, once you get to the 3k+ mark it starts to be very sluggish. With C6.1 it's really fast but the interface is not as sweet but very functional. I kinda miss Sense even if it was hella clunky. I just might install that new Egyptian RUU to try it out again since the software version is higher.

Well it has been working much quicker with CM 6.1 but i miss the eye candy
But would much rather the whole overall speed than some prettyness. I will just wait for something new to come out

robzonpl said:
why the hell not?
for me deleting text messages is like deleting emails - you don't do that anymore, you archive stuff.
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call me old fashioned but I like to keep my inbox everywhere nice and clean unless it's something I need. Then I save it to a 1.2mb floppy disk....lol

1.44mb?
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I was reading an article over at Anandtech the other day that commented on SMS slowdown in android.
I’ve expressed my frustration with Android’s sometimes extraordinarily sluggish SMS database and messaging application in the past, which slows down after a few days of heavy texting.
It’s something I’ve heard other users complain about, so I know I’m not alone, and even changing clients doesn’t help since they end up using the same SMS subsystem.
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So I think your options are either deleting most of your messages or changing OS.

Someone and or google need to get their butt into gear and do some focus on the messaging subsystem

Large amount of messages being sent

Does anyone else get this popup when texting a lot? The popup refers to something along the lines of "A large number of messages are being sent blah blah" and I just tap "OK". The thing is, is that they show as sent already so why would it even tell me this (Hello Android, are you stupid?). And why on earth would I/anyone ever tap "Cancel"?
It happens when I'm texting to several seperate people but quite often, I guess I text too much for Android to handle lol? I found another thread on this but all people could suggest was to "Try a different SMS app or reboot". To me, that's not any sort of solution but a temporary bandaid and a very inconvenient one. I bought a Nexus for the stock fast experience, not the bloated one with bugs.

akira02rex said:
Does anyone else get this popup when texting a lot? The popup refers to something along the lines of "A large number of messages are being sent blah blah" and I just tap "OK". The thing is, is that they show as sent already so why would it even tell me this (Hello Android, are you stupid?). And why on earth would I/anyone ever tap "Cancel"?
It happens when I'm texting to several seperate people but quite often, I guess I text too much for Android to handle lol? I found another thread on this but all people could suggest was to "Try a different SMS app or reboot". To me, that's not any sort of solution but a temporary bandaid and a very inconvenient one. I bought a Nexus for the stock fast experience, not the bloated one with bugs.
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Never seen this message. What sms app are you using?

WiredPirate said:
Never seen this message. What sms app are you using?
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Stock on 4.0.4 CM9. Apparently it's a feature build in to android. It happens across all android builds it seems. It can be "fixed" but why no one does I have no idea. When I text a LOT, and I mean like 100-200 within an hour or less.

I've seen a few other threads on this topic, and I realize its a pretty crazy (seemingly arbitrary) limitation. But how the hell are you sending ~150 messages an hour?

IMO, if you have to send 200 messages an hour, you need to just pick up the phone and call someone.

martonikaj said:
I've seen a few other threads on this topic, and I realize its a pretty crazy (seemingly arbitrary) limitation. But how the hell are you sending ~150 messages an hour?
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I'm a player what can I say lol
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Can't access sms

Hiya.
I have a problem with sms. Me and my gf have sent several thousand sms between each other, and yesterday I noticed that I can't access our sms. It just says "loading" for a very long time.
I can't even delete them, nothing happens when I do that.
Any solutions? I don't really want to reinstall the whole phone.

Nebell said:
Hiya.
I have a problem with sms. Me and my gf have sent several thousand sms between each other, and yesterday I noticed that I can't access our sms. It just says "loading" for a very long time.
I can't even delete them, nothing happens when I do that.
Any solutions? I don't really want to reinstall the whole phone.
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I would try getting a third-party SMS app, to see if you can view them on that such as GOSMS.
If you can, try to delete them using that, and then go back to the stock SMS tosee if that helps, then you can delete the third-party app, it is just so you can use the SMS functions as you explain you cannot even delete them
Hope this helps.

Hey,
i think you have to restore your phone to default.
Normally your SD-Card get not touched by this process.
Greetz, SoLdieR9312

I managed to solve the problem by installing third party sms app. Thanks for the tip
There were around 4850 sms. I don't know why this happened though, did I hit the limit or something?

Nebell said:
I managed to solve the problem by installing third party sms app. Thanks for the tip
There were around 4850 sms. I don't know why this happened though, did I hit the limit or something?
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Android has a native limit of about 5000 SMS I believe. I had this same problem and if left long enough (hours) it would finally load but required that same waiting period each time I opened the SMS app. It was only one conversation that had a ton of texts but it still froze the whole app.
I installed SMS Backup and Restore + (its free) and it backs up all SMS and MMS to my gmail then deleted the conversation. If you go into the messages app into the menu (possibly advanced menu, can't recall) you can change the limit and android will just auto delete anything over the limit you set.
I think I set it for around 3000 SMS and 200 MMS and its been working fine since.

Messaging app issues?

Hi all,
Does anyone else have issues with the messaging app slowing to a crawl after a while? For me, after using it for a while it really begins to become slow to respond to things like the back button, opening a thread, etc.
Thanks,
Ho'okani

Try setting it to delete messages after a certain number, typically around 200 or so.
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My suggestion is to use another messaging app...I personally prefer chompSMS but theres also others with way more features and options than the stock messaging app and I never have freezing problems or anything like it..
Sent from AT&T Galaxy S3 SGH-i747, just in case you were wondering...

d3athsd00r said:
Try setting it to delete messages after a certain number, typically around 200 or so.
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It is already set to do that but I think that because I did a restore from a previous phone there are a lot more messages than the set limit. I never had problems with my other phone though with that many messages. Think I'll try using another messaging app as the other reply suggests and see how that goes.
When installing another sms app, would it be starting new or does it integrate with the existing messages on the phone and bring those threads over to the new app.
Thanks,
Ho'okani

The SMS is a globally accessible database. So any app can access it. Just make sure you turn off notifications for the builtin sms app.
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Thanks guys. I'm going to give Handcent a try and see how that goes. Anyone know if you make Handcent your default messaging app, does that make it so messages no longer get added to the stock app's database? I ask that because I also use SMS Backup and Restore to backup my text messages.
Thanks,
Ho'okani

Messaging app lag?

Just wanted to see if anyone else has been experiencing the same thing. I haven't experienced any lag with this phone whatsoever except for the stock messaging app.
1) Sometimes when I open the messaging app, the preview of a text messaging thread may be from many hours ago and then "refresh" itself to the most recent text. Essentially when I open the app, the preview shows a much older text message and then after a couple seconds will show the most recent one.
2) Sometimes when I push send on a message, it will take a second before the text is actually sent so if I continue to text, it will add on to the previous message until sent.
The only way I've found to correct this is to switch to the "SMS/MMS" tab, which seems to correct the lag, but of course any time you push the back button out of the app, it goes back to the deault "all messages" tab when opening. I also tried holding down the tab titles and it brings you to a screen which it almost looks like HTC was going to give the option to remove other tabs but the boxes cannot be unchecked.
Anyone else running into these issues? Find a solution?

Yeah ive noticed the same weirdly enough I don't feel lag when using sliding messaging app or textra
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I don't recall having any of those issues but for me what happens is when I open the message app, in the list of people I've been texting, it shows their phone number for a second, and then it switches to their name. And it only happens once in a while. Like right now, it's not happening. Weird
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josh995 said:
I don't recall having any of those issues but for me what happens is when I open the message app, in the list of people I've been texting, it shows their phone number for a second, and then it switches to their name. And it only happens once in a while. Like right now, it's not happening. Weird
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Same here. Kind of annoying, but I had so many problems with go sms and hand cent on my rezound not sending group messages correctly. I'm scared to change and lose a working "group messaging app".
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Yup, same here. Definitely a little annoying.

Try Verizon messages. It's awesome and group messages is flawless
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force1stiptopped said:
1) Sometimes when I open the messaging app, the preview of a text messaging thread may be from many hours ago and then "refresh" itself to the most recent text. Essentially when I open the app, the preview shows a much older text message and then after a couple seconds will show the most recent one.
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josh995 said:
I don't recall having any of those issues but for me what happens is when I open the message app, in the list of people I've been texting, it shows their phone number for a second, and then it switches to their name. And it only happens once in a while. Like right now, it's not happening. Weird
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I have these two issues.
This stock HTC Messages app automatically closes when you back out of sending a reply message, so it doesn't refresh the preview list like previous HTC phones on a reply. On the same token, it appears that it completely quits the Messages app, requiring you to load the names from the Contacts app when you open the Messages app without replying to a message. If you press Home rather than Back, when you open the Messages app again, it loads the messaging screen with the contact you most recently messaged, the person to whom you just replied. If you open the app and send a message, then press Back, it loads the list again, and everything is all good. It's all very odd.

Well glad to see I'm not the only one. I had tried Handcent, Chomp, etc with nothing but lag and other issues. Thanks to the response from NSRpxndxhou, I tried Textra and actually really like it. Best replacement text app I've tried.

I like how HTC's stock messaging app looks, but it ended up simply being too slow. I switched to Textra, enabled the dark theme and never looked back. Silky smooth performance, even with giant threads.

I am in the middle of an email conversation with the guys at Textra. I love the app. But my group messages are not working correctly. Those guys are great. Within one day I got an email with an update to try.... make that two updates. Just got another one while typing this.
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Yeah only thing I don't like is the icon but that's not even a big deal.
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sanders539 said:
I am in the middle of an email conversation with the guys at Textra. I love the app. But my group messages are not working correctly. Those guys are great. Within one day I got an email with an update to try.... make that two updates. Just got another one while typing this.
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Textra does seem nice, but there are a couple things I would miss from the stock messaging app. I like the ability to search ALL your text messages to find a specific text. I also prefer to have the time stamp on each and every text like the stock application does. I also don't like how it shows the contacts phone number below their name.
I would likely use this as a stock replacement if they were able to integrate all those features.

force1stiptopped said:
Just wanted to see if anyone else has been experiencing the same thing. I haven't experienced any lag with this phone whatsoever except for the stock messaging app.
1) Sometimes when I open the messaging app, the preview of a text messaging thread may be from many hours ago and then "refresh" itself to the most recent text. Essentially when I open the app, the preview shows a much older text message and then after a couple seconds will show the most recent one.
2) Sometimes when I push send on a message, it will take a second before the text is actually sent so if I continue to text, it will add on to the previous message until sent.
The only way I've found to correct this is to switch to the "SMS/MMS" tab, which seems to correct the lag, but of course any time you push the back button out of the app, it goes back to the deault "all messages" tab when opening. I also tried holding down the tab titles and it brings you to a screen which it almost looks like HTC was going to give the option to remove other tabs but the boxes cannot be unchecked.
Anyone else running into these issues? Find a solution?
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You may want to consider going into messaging->settings->general and adding a text limit (default at 200). When you do this you will notice your messaging to be a bit more zippy. This is because its not trying to open all of your old previous messages (which can be in the thousands).

sebastianraven said:
You may want to consider going into messaging->settings->general and adding a text limit (default at 200). When you do this you will notice your messaging to be a bit more zippy. This is because its not trying to open all of your old previous messages (which can be in the thousands).
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I had a Messaging app issue when I had too many messages, which was fixed by deleting them, but that whole "reloading" issue seems to be separate.
Even with a few messages, it tends to reload upon reopening the Messaging app. Really weird why it does it...

raichur0xx0rz said:
I had a Messaging app issue when I had too many messages, which was fixed by deleting them, but that whole "reloading" issue seems to be separate.
Even with a few messages, it tends to reload upon reopening the Messaging app. Really weird why it does it...
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I agree. I go through 5-6k texts a month and if I didn't set a limit my stock messaging app would laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag.

sanders539 said:
I am in the middle of an email conversation with the guys at Textra. I love the app. But my group messages are not working correctly. Those guys are great. Within one day I got an email with an update to try.... make that two updates. Just got another one while typing this.
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Had this issue as well, found out that if you go to the stock messaging app settings > MMS > then connection settings, this gives you the APN. Copy that URL and paste it in the Textra MMS settings. Mines worked flawlessly ever since. Not experiencing any lag like the stock messaging app, and have noticed no difference in features.

force1stiptopped said:
Had this issue as well, found out that if you go to the stock messaging app settings > MMS > then connection settings, this gives you the APN. Copy that URL and paste it in the Textra MMS settings. Mines worked flawlessly ever since. Not experiencing any lag like the stock messaging app, and have noticed no difference in features.
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THANK YOU! Man I am so glad to get that fixed. I am about to email the devs so they can add that to troubleshooting steps.
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