Or it doesn't really matter to have 3.0 when you are choosing a bluetooth stereo headset?
doesnt matter as a headset wouldnt gain much with 3.0 features.
2.x stuff works great
I found a nice store with tons of choices..The have some of the best headphones I've seen...from very expensive to moderate priced..
http://www.headphone.com/index.php
Mac
It's a shame there shouldn't be any difference with 3.0 headsets as with most 2.0 or 2.1 EDR devices I tested & used I've found that A2DP audio suffers from the variable pitch issue (playback speed slightly decreases or increases as the device processor may be busy with another process) which makes listening to music sometimes not nice. In most cases I use A2DP for radio podcasts while I return to wire headset for music playback.
I know I'm not alone in this case so as a non tech I was hoping BT 3.0 would maybe address that pitch issue but I haven't found any 3.0 headset yet to test that either...
I don't think you will ever see a bluetooth 3.0 headset. I think 3.0 is just for faster file transfer between devices. We will have to wait til 4.0 comes out for better headsets. Just what I got from reading wikipedia article on bluetooth.
New motorola s10 headset coming out the 24th, ill probably give them a try
This is not a stereo but is blutooth 3.0 headset
http://www.newegg.com/product/produ...hBargains-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16875984035
fosselman said:
I don't think you will ever see a bluetooth 3.0 headset. I think 3.0 is just for faster file transfer between devices. We will have to wait til 4.0 comes out for better headsets. Just what I got from reading wikipedia article on bluetooth.
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bt3.0 will be amazing for headsets. It includes the ability to boost to full power instantly so you don't loose the connection when something interferes with the connection (like when you slip your phone in your pocket or when it is in the opposite side of your body from the antenna in the headset). However, I am not sure if this needs to be on both sides or if its sufficient to have it in the phone alone... I think it may have to be in both (kind of hope not).
ONE set
Phiaton BT-20 headphones. IF you have a BT 3.0 device (Galaxy tabs and media players) YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FFWD OR REWND WITH OLDER BT VERSIONS!! This is VERY important to a seminary student like me, as teaching MP3s need be reviewed many times. Hope this helps! Blessings.
reformed said:
Phiaton BT-20 headphones. IF you have a BT 3.0 device (Galaxy tabs and media players) YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FFWD OR REWND WITH OLDER BT VERSIONS!! This is VERY important to a seminary student like me, as teaching MP3s need be reviewed many times. Hope this helps! Blessings.
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wrong ff rW works just fine with older stereo headsets ..
But it is a Bluetooth ver 3.0. I haven't found anything reviews. I don't know if it is worth the money.
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I have 2 of 2.1 bluetooth, they've been working fine with my HTC-Inspire. When I upgraded my phone to HTC-Vivid which has Bluetooth 3.0, those 2 headsets with 2.1 no longer working as it was with Inspire ( cracking sounds, and volume is low). So purchased over ebay a $30 plantronics m20 which build in a Bluetooth 3.0 and it works flawlessly. It likes instantly connects to my HTC-vivid Bluetooth. A lot of times, I don't need to turn on the M20, if someone calls me, then I switch on and it's connected in a matter of a second and audio automatic switches to headset. FYI, m20 doesn't have A2DP
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I have 2 of 2.1 bluetooth, they've been working fine with my HTC-Inspire. When I upgraded my phone to HTC-Vivid which has Bluetooth 3.0, those 2 headsets with 2.1 no longer working as it was with Inspire ( cracking sounds, and volume is low). So purchased over ebay a $30 plantronics m20 which build in a Bluetooth 3.0 and it works flawlessly. It likes instantly connects to my HTC-vivid Bluetooth. A lot of times, I don't need to turn on the M20, if someone calls me, then I switch on and it's connected in a matter of a second and audio automatic switches to headset. FYI, m20 doesn't have A2DP
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M20 Is not stereo. I should have some samples coming in this week of some new Stereo Bluetooth v3.0 Headsets. They very lightweight and come in 5 different colors. (if I like them, do I stock all 5 colors?)
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You may have a hard time looking for BT 3.0 stereo headsets because -unless I'm mistaken as fosselman pointed out in this thread- there were no audio enhancements from BT 2.1 to 3.0 specifications. Instead, what you could may look for and try is CSR's "apt-x" proprietary HD "lossless" audio codec used by Monster, HTC, Samsung, Nokia and even Apple in their iphone 4s or the new ipad, allowing for higher bitrate to match CD-like quality.
I've had the variable pitch issue even on good A2DP models in the past and I've tested many (Sony Ericsson's HBH series, Nokia BH series such as BH-214 or BH-903 and others such as itech). Appart from the pitch issue I also found that speech clarity on voice calls wasn't very good on GSM calls with the headset on, and even not-usable over VoIP.
I am now testing Nokia Essence (also called BH-610) which is still a bluetooth 2.1 model but comes with the apt-x and highbitpool SBC codec support. I'm using it with a Bluetooth 3.0 Nokia 700 on symbian Belle, and although I've had it for only a few hours I can already report I don't have the variable pitch issue with music and sound is better than the previous models I tested. The downside is that it's hard to get this model at the moment (not sure why since it was announced back in Summer 2011 already) and consequently pretty expensive as it also comes with noise reduction and NFC pairing.
Has anyone here tested Sennheiser's PX-210 or Jaybird's Sportsband/Freeband with compatible apt-x phones or music player bluetooth adapters ?
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What stereo blue tooth HEADSET do you recommend for Wizard? I am interested into a head set not very expensive ...but I want also to be able to listen music or to speak at the phone with it.
Sony DR-BT30QS
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...30QS-Bluetooth-Headphones-Silver/Product.html
Only £17.99 delivered, from play.com
Jabra BT620s
About 60 euro's here in the netherlands. Great piece of headset Good quality audio, has buttons to control the mediaplayer (WMP as well as the HTC Audiomanager work ) and can offcourse accept calls and control voice command.
what about sony ericsson HBH-DS970 ?
thx
well I am answering my own post, ,
the working features are,
1. smooth A2DP (skipping in case of high proc. usage e.g. wifi brosin and stereo bt music simultanous)
2. after a call music resumes and in the earphone.
3. AVRCP
4. Caller ID ! u can see both the name & the number on the lcd ( with jetware ).
regards
I'll have the Jabra BT620s in the mail today... I'll post a review asap.
Jabra BT headphone
As promised;
I got the Jabra headset yesterday, and last night I was able to try it. First of all, sound quality is better than expected. Setup was somewhat confusing, since the manual is not so clear. But, I managed. Made a couple of phonecalls, all fine. Overall, nice set of headphones. Luckily, the flashing blue leds can be turned off.
Hi
I use the Anycom BSH-100. The Headset is not bad at all, with HS/HF/A2DP/ AVRRCP and a up to 200 h standby + upto 12 h music playtime.
Tech data here: http://www.anycom.com/products/bluetooth_audio_video/stereo_headset_bsh_100/?id=102&partno=CC3300
There is no buildin Microphone. A small (about 3 cm) mic is attacht to the side mini usb-jack. This mini usb-jack is also used to charge the batteries. Most of the time i forgett the mic, when charging the Headset, so i use the Headset often to listen to mp3s and recive calls without using the headset. ( a bild in Mic would be better) The headset goes to mute when a call comes in.
picture here: http://files.anycom.com/images/products/lifestyle/cc3300_lifestyle_01.jpg
+ (plus):
Handling is very easy.
Long Standby & playtime
small transport size (faltable)
- (minus):
seperate Mic
Sound Quality is OK but not as good as a normal wired-headset. (maybe normal for BT)
no option to turn of the flashing blue led
best regards Oliver
Hi, Anyone using Jabra Bt320 with the Touch? I tired to connect for stereo headset but its fails. I had the same problem with Dopod 810 but some after making some changes in the registry the problem was solved. I tired the same tweaks in Touch but it fails. Any suggestion from the forum? Thanks
I used the BT320
and the stereo was fine. I also made the adjustments to the registry and it carried on working fine.
However, I sent the unit back because I bought a Jabra 120s with it and found that, after initial pairing problems (which went away), there was an audio lag which made watching TV rubbish!
When you pair with the BT320s, you should have the option to use it as either
1. a hands-free or
2. wireless stereo.
If you don't, delete the device from your Touch then...
...plug the BT320s into it's charger, three times, for 4 seconds each time.
Now pair again and the option for wireless stereo will magically appear.
Try Motorola S9. Nice and solid. Matches Touch design too.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826555005&Tpk=motorola+s9
EmilianM said:
What stereo blue tooth HEADSET do you recommend for Wizard? I am interested into a head set not very expensive ...but I want also to be able to listen music or to speak at the phone with it.
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You get what you pay for comes to mind with BT headsets.
I have yet to come across one headset that plays great stereo sound
and gives you great call quality. However, for stereo sound the Motorola
S9 kicks arse over anything out there and the Jawbone does the voice
calls better than anyone out there. S9 is around $100US and the Jawbone
is $130US ish. Not cheap but you won't be looking to replace them because
they don't do their job. Now if you have a big melon the S9 maybe a problem.
AE!
Hi.
I got the HT820 from Mototola.
Sound is good.
Easy installation on Touch.
Noise cancelling.
Looks a little bit spacy but fits good.
AND I payed 12€ for it on ebay.de.
I use BT320s
Hi,
I am using Jabra BT320s, It just works fine with my Touch. I did the in pairing initially, but after I upgraded with latest firmware I don't have any problem in pairing.
firmware can be found here
http://rapidshare.com/files/51865424/JabraBT320swebupdate_1077.zip
Please read the instruction to update the firmware
Well i got the Motorola BT820 last week, very satisfied
great sound nice volume, little weakness but accepteble by my standard
when theres a lot of static noise the build in mic does piick up on that a bit.
i use it for mp3 mostly, and o yeah its comfortoble too
price is nice if i compare to other headsets,
still thinking about trying the new logitech headset
is there anybody who has experienced it
I have posted a question regarding a small problem with the Bb20s right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326489
This is a description of my problem, as posted. Does anyone have an idea?
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Received my Jabra 620s yesterday. First impressions: it is quite big and heavy, but it is better than earplugs ;-) Sounds quality is quite good.
Here is my problem: After pairing the headset with my device, everything behaves as expected until some event (this happend on multiple occasions, different trigger but the same result): the headset controls still function (i.e. I can skip songs etc), but the HTCs audio is routed to the HTC speaker instead of the headset. I cannot fix this, the only way is to remove the bluetooth connection, repair and I am good to go again.
I'd second the comment on the Motorola S9. I got the S9 to go with my old magician, but now that I've upgraded to the Touch, things are even better.
The S9 workd flawlessly for stereo music and also as a regular hands free headset. I can't tell you how many times I've been out jogging, litening to music and I get a cal from people. They say the call sound quality is good, but always wonder why I'm breaking fast.
I hve changed to HTC BH S100 (in-ear is better for jogging)
sound quality is good, no problems...yeah should be no problems when using HTC stuff only ;-)
i found the Motorola S9s to be outstanding. I have never been so happy with a BT headet.
Sony DR-BT30 Q
Got it for 34 euro's and they make me happy.
Good reach on the touch compared to my wizard
I have been looking into some different Bluetooth purchases. One being a pair of Bluetooth headphones I would like to use them on my EVO my question is how bad does the audio sound using the sense Bluetooth programing I have seen some rumors of it being horrendous. also would like to use the Belkin Bluetooth audio line in adapter in my car have a good car stereo I don't want to change it to something different (avic900bt). I just don't want to get all set up and hate the quality. I would like to stick with a sense rom. right now I am using warm 2.2rls 5
thanks guys
I have the motorola s 9 hd, and they sound really good.and also I have the avic-120 and it sound good, too
dmcgrath009 said:
I have been looking into some different Bluetooth purchases. One being a pair of Bluetooth headphones I would like to use them on my EVO my question is how bad does the audio sound using the sense Bluetooth programing I have seen some rumors of it being horrendous. also would like to use the Belkin Bluetooth audio line in adapter in my car have a good car stereo I don't want to change it to something different (avic900bt). I just don't want to get all set up and hate the quality. I would like to stick with a sense rom. right now I am using warm 2.2rls 5
thanks guys
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It's horrible. I don't understand how anyone can say otherwise. My Voyager 855 certainly isn't audiophile quality even with a good source, but when I tried out CM, it was noticeably better. With the Sense BT stack, cymbals sound like someone pissing on tin foil.
The Bluetooth stack in virtually all Sense ROMs is absolute crap. CyanogenMod fixed it a long time ago (and actually uses a proper stack that's fully FOSS). Plus CM has a DSP equalizer built in that you can use.
The quality certainly doesn't match that of wired headphones (and probably never will), but for bluetooth, it's fairly good. Noticeably better than the same pair of headphones connected to a dongle on a Windows 7 computer.
grab a voyager pro plus headset; the sound will amaze you for a bt headset..
Alright, just got a new used car.
For my current phone (Captivate) and any future phones/tablets I buy (Nexus/7) I just wanted to know which decks that anyone out there has been using that works well for calls and playing music.. My BT Motorola T305 speakerphone is a bit spotty and would like to just integrate everything into the deck.
For reference, the devices will be plugged in while in the car, so power consumption is not an issue. Thanks all.
Bane99 said:
Alright, just got a new used car.
For my current phone (Captivate) and any future phones/tablets I buy (Nexus/7) I just wanted to know which decks that anyone out there has been using that works well for calls and playing music.. My BT Motorola T305 speakerphone is a bit spotty and would like to just integrate everything into the deck.
For reference, the devices will be plugged in while in the car, so power consumption is not an issue. Thanks all.
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I have the alpine 136bt and it works great with my phone.
Whoops sorry I haven't responded to this. I'll definitely look into it thanks.
central mtepart
Bane99 said:
Alright, just got a new used car.
For my current phone (Captivate) and any future phones/tablets I buy (Nexus/7) I just wanted to know which decks that anyone out there has been using that works well for calls and playing music.. My BT Motorola T305 speakerphone is a bit spotty and would like to just integrate everything into the deck.
For reference, the devices will be plugged in while in the car, so power consumption is not an issue. Thanks all.
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Jabras are usually the best for cars..try them out..
Dension Car Dock(nice design, power usb and audio line or FM) or bluetooth kit for stock radio.
I have only used Kenwood and Alpine decks.
The Kenwood has better noise cancelling external mic for calls. Problem with Kenwoods was the bluetooth features weren't the same across decks, as price went up you got more bluetooth profiles(say like A2DP). i.e low end deck has bluetooth for calls only, higher end had you could call and stream music with car stereo as output speaker without having to hook in a cable.
The Alpine was more of the same, didn't like the external mic as much. For Apple products which you don't have it had integrated Pandora to control the app from the stereo. My next purchase may revolve around how it handles the phone address book.
Hello guys
The purpose of this post is to share with you guys my recent purchase The HTC Bluettoh 3.0 Stereo Headphones. These are the official ones from HTC made for our phones. Those with Sense 4.0 and above and phones with Bluetooth 3.0 and above. What makes these different from other bluetooth heaphones is the fact that they use Bluetooth 3.0 which is a huge advancement meant from Bluetooth v2.1 Enhanced Data Rate. This newer version allows more data to be transferred at a time (wider bandwidth) and HTC has taken advantage of this by providing uncompressed audio with these bluetooth heaphones. The sound quality is so much better. v3.0 is more battery efficient as well than the previous generation. The bluetooth headphone clip allows you to use your own headphones as well!
I have made video review below
Pictures of the device and part of the manual are attached to this post for your viewing pleasure
Official Product Link: http://www.htc.com/au/accessories/htc-bluetooth-stereo-headphones/#overview
actually, it's not uncompressed audio. It uses Apt-x codec from CSR which is a cd-quality audio compression technology. There aren't many phones that actually have that codec. HTC One series and galaxy s3 are the ones that pops into my mind. Others (the ones that don't have apt-x) will sound like Bluetooth 2.1 edr no mather which version of Bluetooth they use.
Here is a list of headphones with aptx codec support, you'll see HTC is listed there too.
http://www.csr.com/technology-solut...wered-by-csr-aptx/bluetooth-stereo-headphones
Are you suggesting that these sound crisp and clean? I only ask because I stream music via bluetooth quite a bit whether it be to my Yamaha receiver or my head unit in my truck and because of the low bitpool setting in Sense I get a lot of crackling on the high end. AOSP this is not an issue. Only in Sense.
So my question is...How if HTC hasn't fixed the bluetooth bitpool issue in the software can any bluetooth device stream the high quality?
i ordered the ikross bluetooth stereo receiver, they are quite good and much cheaper they go for about 26 dollars
here is a review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6_BCQZkfg8
and here they are on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/css/order-history/ref=gno_yam_yrdrs
Can you use them for jogging and fast walking?
Thanks you very much news, I think his headphones low dive deep, clean and full, flexible and intensity, slow feeling. Good high frequency extension, delicate and supple and housing design is also very good
vegetaleb said:
Can you use them for jogging and fast walking?
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You can actually use any headsets for jogging and especially walking. Just depends how much wire and bulk you are willing to put up with. Personally, I have the LG Tone+ headset. They sound great and dont make you feel like you are tied to something. They are actually a very practical setup. Any way. Those are my thoughts.
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Microphone
Hi,
Is the mic in the headset or is there a mic on the unit as well?
ie could I use a standard headset without a mic and still talk?
Cheers, 0ddball
0ddball said:
Hi,
Is the mic in the headset or is there a mic on the unit as well?
ie could I use a standard headset without a mic and still talk?
Cheers, 0ddball
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The mic is not built in onto the bluetooth device, your earphones will have to have a mic
Ah bummer as I thought. OK thanks for clearing that up!
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actually, it's not uncompressed audio. It uses Apt-x codec from CSR which is a cd-quality audio compression technology. There aren't many phones that actually have that codec. HTC One series and galaxy s3 are the ones that pops into my mind. Others (the ones that don't have apt-x) will sound like Bluetooth 2.1 edr no mather which version of Bluetooth they use.
Here is a list of headphones with aptx codec support, you'll see HTC is listed there too.
http://www.csr.com/technology-solut...wered-by-csr-aptx/bluetooth-stereo-headphones
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it's uncompressed but who cares? it seems those use apt-x lossless codec.
"HTC’s exclusive apt-X lossless digital audio compression technology delivers studio-quality sound"
I picked up one of these on the back of this review, and I have to say, I'm really impressed. I got i it mainly for running with, but I've found myself just using it for everything. In the car, at work, - the battery life is really good, and the drain on the phone really in negligible.
My one complaint... I nearly lost my phone in the gym, cause I left it at the rower I was using, but the range is so good ( around 20m without any loss of audio ) I ended up having to backtrack my whole circuit to find it
I cannot believe they did not include a mic in the clip. It really limits your use of alternative headphones/earphones.
deadman3000 said:
I cannot believe they did not include a mic in the clip. It really limits your use of alternative headphones/earphones.
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It does have a mic in the clip, can't post a link so check the HTC website for details.
I have this as well. I have to say that for a BT tranceiver, it impresses me so much. My only complain is that I can't really monitor the battery capacity in this thing. But at least it will notify me with that robotic female voice that my "battery is low". However, battery life is good.
I use it when I'm travelling because I don't really like brandishing my One in public transport (it's very unsafe to show off your phone here in Indonesia) as it allows me to control my music wirelessly.
I pair this to some other devices as well, like my laptop so that I can use my hifi system to amplify my laptop using aux cable. I don't use the aux cable directly because it's too far to where I usually sit and enjoy my movies.
All in all, I am satisfied with this product.
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It does have a mic in the clip, can't post a link so check the HTC website for details.
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Because of that sentence, I have bought this device. But NO, it doesn't have the mic in the clip.
Now I am sad and angry I didn't go for a Sony or Samsung.
I have a MW600 at home, which worked perfectly, but last month the clip lost the suspension thingy so I cannot clip it to my shirt anymore... And that's why I decided to buy this one.
But bummer, you cannot use any headphones. You must pick the ones that have the microphone on. And hence, the device is not useful for other stuff, like in-car use and such...
Otherwise, sound is good, can connect to my mac and phone at the same time and can charge it while using it. Really a shame HTC did not put a mic on the clip...
I had these other bluetooth headphones in mind:
1) Sony SBH20
2) Samsung HS3000
and of course
3) Sony MW600
Good info sudkcoce. I am also thinking of buying this but do not like the earbuds. I need something that will stay on my head. Earbuds to me have always been a fad/gimmick. Can you post if any other aftermarket headphones with mics and preferably ear clips or dome speakers that are compatible with this bluetooth device? Maybe if you have others from friends try them and let us know. For now will be considering the other devices you listed for my HTC One.
I am pretty sure any headphone with a built in mike will work.
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paulfrankie said:
Good info sudkcoce. I am also thinking of buying this but do not like the earbuds. I need something that will stay on my head. Earbuds to me have always been a fad/gimmick. Can you post if any other aftermarket headphones with mics and preferably ear clips or dome speakers that are compatible with this bluetooth device? Maybe if you have others from friends try them and let us know. For now will be considering the other devices you listed for my HTC One.
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I have waterproof earphones by Monster designed for iOS and they work perfectly with the bluetooth clip. Any Headphones/ earphones will work with this as long as they have a 3.5mm jack. Of those headphones have a play pause button on the centre it will work as well. The other buttons may not
I've had these things since February(a nice gift from HTC) and I love it. I don't use it as headphones though when I'm home. I have an aux cable going into my surround sound and I have hooked the Bluetooth dongle onto that Aux cable. Streaming the music crisply, clearly, and perfectly through my system.
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Does anyone know of any Bluetooth 4.0 profile headphones that look like the one in the picture? Amazon has the small buds and huge cover the ear type.
Mine are worn out and with the new N5 coming today i figured it is a good time to upgrade the headphones.
There is no advantage to having Bluetooth 4.0 headphones to those that use an earlier version of Bluetooth, though do get a more recent model of headphones as the A2DP works a lot better on them.
pzboyz said:
There is no advantage to having Bluetooth 4.0 headphones to those that use an earlier version of Bluetooth, though do get a more recent model of headphones as the A2DP works a lot better on them.
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Data throughput and battery life are the major changes which both matter to headphones.
Does anyone know of any Bluetooth 4.0 wireless headphones? In particular, I'm looking for small in-ear Bluetooth 4.0 headphones. I like the smaller size. Recently ordered a 2.0 pair but they ended up only being less than 4 hours. hoping a 4.0 pair will provide better battery life.
unvaluablespace said:
Does anyone know of any Bluetooth 4.0 wireless headphones? In particular, I'm looking for small in-ear Bluetooth 4.0 headphones. I like the smaller size. Recently ordered a 2.0 pair but they ended up only being less than 4 hours. hoping a 4.0 pair will provide better battery life.
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The link from amazon was for the small in ear buds I mentioned. They were in stock when I asked the question, but they show out of stock now.
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Wir...6553&sr=1-4&keywords=bluetooth+4.0+headphones
korsjs said:
The link from amazon was for the small in ear buds I mentioned. They were in stock when I asked the question, but they show out of stock now.
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Wir...6553&sr=1-4&keywords=bluetooth+4.0+headphones
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hmmm.... really sorry, but I don't see any links in this thread other than what you just now posted. Not sure whats up with that. Only thing I saw was an attachment you did with a pic of some over-the-ear headphones. Either way though, thanks very much for the link. 7 hours is much better than the ones I bought off ebay lol. Still, would be nice to find some with at least 10 hours, though not sure if that's possible with such small Bluetooth headphones. Those are nice though, adding them to my wishlist to when they do go back in stock. Thanks for the heads up.
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The link from amazon was for the small in ear buds I mentioned. They were in stock when I asked the question, but they show out of stock now.
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Wir...6553&sr=1-4&keywords=bluetooth+4.0+headphones
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In the description of that one it says "Sportier audio.
For the ultimate Bluetooth sporting headset, check out the soon-to-be-released Anker® Foldable Bluetooth Stereo Headset." I'm not certain as there was no picture but sounds more like what you want. Maybe try emailing Anker and asking for an eta
So just to be clear i wanted to confirm on the matter of if a Bluetooth 4.0 HANDset needs a bluetooth 4.0 HEADset for the Bluetooth Low Energy profile to work...? I been reading up on it online and iv seen different things in different places... and considering there are not many 4.0 headsets out there yet, would that mean the power consumtion will downgrade to that standard...??
I was really interested in the Sony SBH52 headset but can barely find it in stock anywhere and its bluetooth 3.0...
korsjs said:
Does anyone know of any Bluetooth 4.0 profile headphones that look like the one in the picture? Amazon has the small buds and huge cover the ear type.
Mine are worn out and with the new N5 coming today i figured it is a good time to upgrade the headphones.
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check out these ones at ebay,may be you like them
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Motorol...t=US_Audio_Docks_Speakers&hash=item53fd0214d2
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Data throughput and battery life are the major changes which both matter to headphones.
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Right now the A2DP and HFP profiles used by headsets and speakers are defined to only work using the older standards. It is a huge task to change the profiles to use the BLE connection and this is not going to start anytime soon.
Ive found a few here some of which not exactly in the same style but here you go anyway
TECEVO Active Sport Bluetooth Stereo Headphones
7dayshop R7 Premium High-Fidelity Bluetooth 4.0 aptX Headphones with Mic
ehcool said:
Ive found a few here some of which not exactly in the same style but here you go anyway
TECEVO Active Sport Bluetooth Stereo Headphones
7dayshop R7 Premium High-Fidelity Bluetooth 4.0 aptX Headphones with Mic
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The 7dayshop one is AWESOME. I have it, and it has really, really good sound quality when wired or through aptX. The only problem with the Nexus 5, is that it most likely does not use aptX.
Here is a non UK version:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...ic-with-mic-for-iPhone/315487_1317182127.html
These are the OEM model of the VOXOA 4.0 headphone that goes for ~$150 on Amazon.
bhazard451 said:
The 7dayshop one is AWESOME. I have it, and it has really, really good sound quality when wired or through aptX. The only problem with the Nexus 5, is that it most likely does not use aptX.
Here is a non UK version:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...ic-with-mic-for-iPhone/315487_1317182127.html
These are the OEM model of the VOXOA 4.0 headphone that goes for ~$150 on Amazon.
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I believe there was a thread about this and it was confirmed by an LG support that it does not support atpX
pzboyz said:
Right now the A2DP and HFP profiles used by headsets and speakers are defined to only work using the older standards. It is a huge task to change the profiles to use the BLE connection and this is not going to start anytime soon.
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Bluetooth 4.0 uses GATT largely as an application layer for the profiles to operate. The BLE is the spec and operates outside of normal Bluetooth frequencies (at a lower one) which in itself helps with power but the tech has a side effect of slightly lowered range. A Bluetooth 4.0 phone with a 4.0 headset even using old profiles will still see power savings and data throughput enhancements just from GATT alone.
I don't think there really is a way for them to write the A2DP and HFP to utilize 4.0 (HFP profile is at 1.5 right now so it hasn't changed much and am typing this out on my phone so can't easily tell you when A2DP stopped changing but its been awhile). The special profiles 4.0 uses are tied together with GATT, so again, the benefits are going to be there.
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Watcher07 said:
A Bluetooth 4.0 phone with a 4.0 headset even using old profiles will still see power savings and data throughput enhancements just from GATT alone.
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Hello Watcher07, OK good to see you have a well above average understanding of the technology, in many many ways you should be right in most of your points, though until the profiles change to include a statement that the BLE connection can be used by itself, this is not going to happen. Sadly.
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Hello Watcher07, OK good to see you have a well above average understanding of the technology, in many many ways you should be right in most of your points, though until the profiles change to include a statement that the BLE connection can be used by itself, this is not going to happen. Sadly.
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Let me try to explain this a different way. The BLE operates independently of the Profiles. A2DP is at version 1.2 as well as the HFP at 1.5. To put this in perspective, A2DP verson 1 came about in 2003, 1.3 was in 2012. BLE has existed since 2003 when it was Cyrix or something like that then became an adapted, certified bluetooth tech in 2010. But it doesn't matter because of how they operate. The following is taken directly from the bluetooth.org's developers PDF about A2DP:
In Figure 1.1, the structure and the dependencies of the profiles are depicted. A profile is dependent upon another profile if it re-uses parts of that profile, by implicitly or explicitly referencing it. Dependency is illustrated in the figure. A profile has dependencies on the profile(s) in which it is contained – directly and indirectly. As indicated in Figure 1.1, the A2DP is dependent upon the Generic Access Profile (GAP), as well as the Generic Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP) [3], which defines procedures required to set up an audio/video streaming. The A2DP defines parameters and procedures that are specific for audio streaming. The terminology, user interface and procedures as defined in the GAP and GAVDP are applicable to this profile, unless explicitly stated otherwise.
Bluetooth 4.0 uses GATT as opposed to GAP that earlier versions of bluetooth used. The A2DP profile doesn't do anything but state how to process the codecs, compression and how to present the output to a device. The GAP and GATT are core operations profiles that dictate things like power usage and such. When you pair two bluetooth devices, (since we're talking about v4.0 here I'll use 4.0 terms) GATT keeps the phones connected but without drawing alot of power by utilizing the BLE hardware chip. As soon as A2DP gets triggered from you trying to play a song, GATT sends a wake command to the receiving device which brings it out of its low power mode and triggers the A2DP profile to start decompressing the data stream and processing the codecs to deliver your music.
A2DP hasn't changed much as a profile because it doesn't have to. It has no impact whatsoever on BLE, all of that is handled via GATT. The A2DP profile doesn't even know it's not talking to GAP since GATT fills that void. The same is true of HFP. The compression of the data stream and codec processing is all handled within subsets of the A2DP profile and the codecs are vendor specific. A2DP changes from device to device on a codec level but the Profile spec doesn't change because there's no reason to mess with it as it would cause whatever vendors device that messed with it to no longer be certified from the consortium.
Now let's get back to the core issue, Bluetooth 4.0 headphones. BLE does have power savings and some data throughput enhancements but it has to be tied to another Bluetooth 4.0 device (as the hardware requires a specific chip). The instant one or the other device isn't 4.0, everything goes down to the lowest Bluetooth version and gets rid of the benefits of 4.0. People who only use bluetooth headphones for say, a jog, aren't really going to notice the difference between 4.0 and lesser versions. However if it's someone like a power user who spends all day with a bluetooth headset in their ear and taking calls constantly, they'll definitely notice the power savings.
If you want to read the developer pdf about A2DP to learn more about how it works, go to: http://developer.bluetooth.org/TechnologyOverview/Documents/A2DP_Spec.pdf
Watcher07 said:
The GAP and GATT are core operations profiles that dictate things like power usage and such. When you pair two bluetooth devices, (since we're talking about v4.0 here I'll use 4.0 terms) GATT keeps the phones connected but without drawing alot of power by utilizing the BLE hardware chip. As soon as A2DP gets triggered from you trying to play a song, GATT sends a wake command to the receiving device which brings it out of its low power mode and triggers the A2DP profile to start decompressing the data stream and processing the codecs to deliver your music.
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This is where your misunderstanding starts, in the first sentence I quote. I agree with you this is kind of how it looks from those stack diagrams.
The GATT command you describe does not exist. It would be simple command to define, but it will take a while to actually happen. The work to define that has not started.
pzboyz said:
This is where your misunderstanding starts, in the first sentence I quote. I agree with you this is kind of how it looks from those stack diagrams.
The GATT command you describe does not exist. It would be simple command to define, but it will take a while to actually happen. The work to define that has not started.
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GATT isn't a command, it's a protocol. There's also no minsunderstanding, I spent over a decade working on wireless technologies in the Navy and out of it with civilians and enlisted. I've built all kinds of wireless devices, bluetooth included, from scratch and worked hand in hand with developers on the technology, so the diagrams aren't where my "misunderstanding" started. Regardless, there's a slew of misinformation out there about Bluetooth and there's apparently no headway being made here to help you understand. I appreciate the civility of your conversation despite our differences, so we'll simply bring an end to this particular dialogue as the effort is outweighing the benefits. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, all of mine is coming from experience and bluetooth.org, I just encourage you to keep an open mind about how this tech works behind the scenes.
Newer versions of Bluetooth offer no benefits for headphones as BLE, Bluetooth Low Energy, is not adequate for streaming high bandwidth stereo music. That's why you don't see a lot of manufacturer's jumping on the 4.0 train.
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ekjl, you are right that while streaming there is not a lot of benefit, if the headphones are using 50mA while streaming, if 3mA of the 50mA is due to the bluetooth connection, to save 1mA does not make a large change to the streaming time.
Watcher07 is right that when not streaming BLE could save power and increase the standby time. But some changes would need to be made to A2DP and HFP to allow this to happen in a standardized way.