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What headset?

What headset are you all using with your HC Touch?
Let us know what audio quality is like for handsfree phone function and listening to music/MP3s. Please also share your experiences in using the included HTC headset (which I think is appalling)

darthbane2k said:
What headset are you all using with your HC Touch?
Let us know what audio quality is like for handsfree phone function and listening to music/MP3s. Please also share your experiences in using the included HTC headset (which I think is appalling)
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Had it two days - Sony DR-BT10CX Bluetooth stereo/handsfree - great for running and excellent sound quality for both calls and music.
Cheap too!
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/Sony/DR-BT10CX/Bluetooth/Stereo/Headphones

That looks great.
Unfortunately I have already a great headset... with 3.5mm connector.
Is there any MiniUSB-to-3.5mm-adapter?
Thanks

Here
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=149937

Yes, but this is without microphone. Just for listening music.

fenderbender said:
Yes, but this is without microphone. Just for listening music.
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Doesnt have a button but it has a mic
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=149936

Thanks, but the description says:
Description
Use this adaptor to convert the HTC Touch extUSB socket to support any 3.5mm stereo headphones. The adaptor also has a hangup/answer button for normal voice calls through a stereo headset.
So I think it has a button
Thats great

Jawbone headset is amazing
I have ordered one of these after hearing from many people just how good these are. I got mine from Expansys.co.uk
http://www.jawbone.com/meet.html?utm_source=site&utm_medium=promo_demo
All the best,
Sam.

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I have ordered one of these after hearing from many people just how good these are. I got mine from Expansys.co.uk
http://www.jawbone.com/meet.html?utm_source=site&utm_medium=promo_demo
All the best,
Sam.
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Man, those things look/sound badass...I might have to pick one of those up - I don't really have a quiet car, and I LOVE driving with the windows down! Hefty price tag on eBay though - pay to play though, right?

If you are looking at the DR-BT10CX, I suggest you get the DR-BT20NX instead because it got a remote for music - same earbuds and receiver essentially.

darthbane2k said:
What headset are you all using with your HC Touch?
Let us know what audio quality is like for handsfree phone function and listening to music/MP3s. Please also share your experiences in using the included HTC headset (which I think is appalling)
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The HTC headset works fine for calling and music. For use in the car I have a jabra BT5020 and quality is good, auto-pair ofcourse.

I'm thinking of DIY-ing the usb to 3.5mm audio jack, does anyone have any idea how the usb connectors corresponed to the audio outputs? thanks!

Been shopping around now, since I saw that Jawbone...but I'm wondering...
Is there a Stereo Bluetooth headset with noise-canceling technology out there that anyone knows of???
I've been searching, but to no avail.

Motorola S9 for Stereo and Plantronics 665 for phone
If I am not listening to music I use the Plantronics 665. If I want to listen to music and take calls I use the Motorola S9 stereo BT headphones. The S9 is amazing for quality and fit. Don't let the strange (to some people) design fool you. These are high quality headphones. I have compared these to the Motorola 805s (DJ style) and HT820 (behind the head) and expected the S9 not to sound as good - not true. All 3 Motorola headsets sound great, but for the size the S9 sounds overall just as good if not better. I didn't like the sound of the Jabra BT headphones and the Plantronics over the head (590A) headset sounded good, but not as good as the S9.
By the way I tested a Jawbone and was not impressed at all. Didn't like the fit, sound was only OK and if you need the noise cancellation you have to press a button on the unit for 3 seconds to turn it on - each time. Certainly this is good technology, but for me the Plantronics 665 fits better and over all sounds much better.

I am using a Jabra BT620s for music and calls. Sound quality is very good. Nice fit, good battery performance and fits nicely on my head It has blue leds on both sides that blink when in use, its a bit weird at first but once you get past the oooohs and aaaahs from everyone its great
Has controls aswell (next, previous, volume up/down, accept call/hang up, play/pause) The accept/hangup key has the extra function when not in a call, it activates the voice command program so you can talk commands to your phone

has anyone tried SE HBH-DS970 with this ? comments ?
thx

sorry this is a double post

Anyone tested the HTC Touch E100 or W100 Wired Remote Control?
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147565
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=150194
-Does it work on the Touch?
-Does it work with HTC Audio Manager?
-Does the FM Radio works?
What's the difference between E100 & W100 model?
Regards,
tigabert

I have a Nokia CK-7W buildin carkit in my car (company carkit) which also had bluetooth. Unfortunatly this bluetooth connection gives alot of problems when calling.
I can hear people fine but they hear constant break-ups in the connection. I tried it with a Sony bluetooth headset and everything worked fine.
So dont use the touch combined with a Nokia CK-7W

I'm using the Sony BT20NX and theyre absolutely the best. High quality stereo audio with AVRCP (?) remote profile which works with Windows Media Player, Audio Manager, and TCPMP. The headset is comfortable to wear, blocks outside sound so you can enjoy music at a low volume. The sound is clear and the connection is solid. The buttons are easy to use and I use it for MS Voice Command too, which is awesome. Perfect headset, if you can still find them (I heard theyre discontinued).

headphone audio gain

Hi guys
I would know if there is solution for boost the audio with headphone connected at the phone
thanks

To me this is a major flaw of the defy so far. I can hardly listen to my music when I am walking outside and I really don't understand why the volume is so weak when using the headphone

get better headphones?
Hi, I'm using the Sennheiser CX 200 Street II (excellent price for the quality) and I never use more than half of the volume. So, good inear pieces (those with rubber tips) might help
PS: Please don't tell me you're using the stock headset! They might work for one or two calls but not for enjoying music.
PPS: Does anyone know a compatible headset adapter? I mean one with a built-in mic that allows you to use your own headphones without the need of a soldering iron

As far as I noticed with my girlfriend's ipod touch, she can use my headphones to make skype calls. I can only suspect that they work the other way around. (her headphones are far but I might use someone elses iphone headphones tomorrow)
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The iPod/iPhone Headset works, as I read several times. Unfortunately, you can't use your own headphones with that headset. Know what I mean? I'm looking for something that provides a mic and a 3,5mm jack for headphones
€: Finally, found what I was looking for: http://cgi.ebay.de/e12i-Stereo-Head...812849?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f064f7f31 I hope the quality is not so poor.

I use the music app Poweramp. Apart from being the most comprehensive music app there is, it also has a built in software amplifier to boost volume. I highly recommend it, definitley an app worth paying for.
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One of these days (I'll have to go buy a 3.5mm socket) I'm planning to give an old Nokia 3.5mm set of headphones a new life. I only have to study how the mic/button work (might be some different resistors involved).
I'll get back with a how to after I'm done.

Anyone try the ZaggSmartbuds for www.zagg.com they have a 3.5mm jack, inline mic, inline volume control(analog). i normally use my SD9-HD bluetooth headset when listening to music but sometimes I prefered to be wired. Have been considering the Zaggs real hard.

But exist some head phone with mic and noise reduction function all in one?
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Well... the ZAGGsmartbuds, the iPhone inears, the bose headset, the V-Moda Vibe
II w/mic...

I have found this
http://cgi.ebay.it/ZAGG-SMARTBUDS-N...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item5d2d8b12e4
but I have read in the footer ad there is wrote this:
"Some non-US smartphones, such as the Samsung i9000, have a unique jack configuration that requires an adapter for use with the ZAGGsmartbuds."
So, for My Motorola Defy (France) could be some problem with this headphone??
thank's guys

We might have a different cable configuration at the jack, but we'll never know, if no one tries
PS: I'll tell you if the headset adapter that I ordered via eBay works for the european Defy and how it works.

I was more thinking of some kind of software solution to amplify/unlock the Defy's volume (I guess it is limited for health reasons).
The ones I found on the market just don't work.
I do not intend to buy a new headset as I use it 5-10 minutes a day at most.

Try the poweramp music player. It offers a graphic equalizer and the opportunity to amplify the volume. Remember: too much amplification results in bad sound.

Apt-X Bluetooth Receiver

Hi,
I know the One x outputs Apt-x streo bluetooth. Theres a couple of over the head type headphones that support this. what i'm after is an Apt-X receiver which I can plug my own 3.5mm headphones into. Does anyone know if such a thing exists?
I know you can get standard bluetothe receivewrs for this (i've got the SE DS200) but it does not support Apt-X.
Cheers.

A quick search threw this up
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=40854
Although I've never been disappointed by the sound quality of my SE MW-600 through my HD2, I'll have to see what its like when I receive my ONE-X!

Just searched myself - found the Chord Gem at $799 (it's a high quality DAC as well), and the more reasonably priced QED LIVE uPLAY WIRELESS BLUETOOTH AUDIO RECEIVER for like 60-70pounds (apologies for the shouting, I just cut n paste that from the website).
EDIT: Just found out that the Samsung HS3000 has Apt-X, looks better than the QED since it has facilities for calls and also media controls...
EDIT2: Just purchased the HS3000, will let you all know how it is.

evo1rs said:
A quick search threw this up
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=40854
Although I've never been disappointed by the sound quality of my SE MW-600 through my HD2, I'll have to see what its like when I receive my ONE-X!
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They are doing just fine

NZtechfreak said:
Just searched myself - found the Chord Gem at $799 (it's a high quality DAC as well), and the more reasonably priced QED LIVE uPLAY WIRELESS BLUETOOTH AUDIO RECEIVER for like 60-70pounds (apologies for the shouting, I just cut n paste that from the website).
EDIT: Just found out that the Samsung HS3000 has Apt-X, looks better than the QED since it has facilities for calls and also media controls...
EDIT2: Just purchased the HS3000, will let you all know how it is.
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cheers. can u tell me where it says it has apt-x?

WESBAR said:
I know you can get standard bluetothe receivewrs for this (i've got the SE DS200) but it does not support Apt-X.
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If the One X has a good BT stack, you will not be able to hear any aptx benefits, the DS200 is a good device and with a good BT stack on the phone, it will be CD-like quality.

pzboyz said:
If the One X has a good BT stack, you will not be able to hear any aptx benefits, the DS200 is a good device and with a good BT stack on the phone, it will be CD-like quality.
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Apt-x allows uncompressed data transmission of lossless audio files from what I can gather. From reviews I've read of apt-x sennheiser headphones, it's indistinguishable from wired headphones. I've had several a2dp headphones including ds200 and the quality just isn't there for me. U can definately tell the difference.

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Apt-x allows uncompressed data transmission of lossless audio files from what I can gather.
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Which is not at all correct, the audio is compressed. The streaming rate is +300kb/s.
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U can definately tell the difference.
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Many phones have poorly implemented standard a2dp, they stream at about 220kb/s, this is something which is will be improved, a +300kb/s standard a2dp stream is also just as good as wired. I know people who have done the comparison.

I was under the impression that AptX uses a different codec too, not SBC.
@pzboyz, is there a way of measuring the A2DP bitrate for a device?
It's ironic I only heard of AptX recently, when I bought a Foxl and opted not to get the Platinum version, thinking that there weren't any implementations of this spec yet. And a month later, it's in my new phone.

Well I can definitely tell the difference between bluetooth and wired (I have Sennheiser HD25-1 II's and Audeze LCD-2's).
@WESBAR: Samsung say that, but not on all their sites, in some they just talk about their silly EQ effects and make no mentioned of Apt-X. I saw it listed quite a number of places with specific mention of Apt-X.
Anyways, will confirm what it's like once I get them.

NZtechfreak said:
Well I can definitely tell the difference between bluetooth and wired (I have Sennheiser HD25-1 II's and Audeze LCD-2's).
@WESBAR: Samsung say that, but not on all their sites, in some they just talk about their silly EQ effects and make no mentioned of Apt-X. I saw it listed quite a number of places with specific mention of Apt-X.
Anyways, will confirm what it's like once I get them.
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Yeah I've seen it mentioned on their site too. Got my phone now. Tempted to just order one. They're on ebay for around £26. They do a white version which will match my phone aswell! If these live up to the claims, they'll make a perfect partner to my Shure SE530's which have a short cable which usually runs into an extension piece.
Where did you order yours from?

Ordered mine from Ebay also.
If you order and get yours first let us know how they are!

NZtechfreak said:
Well I can definitely tell the difference between bluetooth and wired (I have Sennheiser HD25-1 II's and Audeze LCD-2's).
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How are you making the comparison? You quoted some wired headphones and none of the other equipment used to make the comparison.

Ordered! Will post a review when it arrives.

pzboyz said:
How are you making the comparison? You quoted some wired headphones and none of the other equipment used to make the comparison.
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I'm talking about every smartdevice I've ever owned listening to bluetooth Vs wired (N95, N95 8GB, N82, i8910, HD2, Touch Pro, N97, HTC Desire, HTC Sensation, Galaxy S, Galaxy SII, Galaxy Note, ASUS Transformer and Transformer Prime, Google I/O Tab 10.1, Galaxy Tab 7.7) with a large number of headsets DRC-BT15, Moto S805, can't remember the model names but several of Nokia's best BT cans, a few other Sony headsets whose model numbers escape me. Bluetooth audio quality is not equal to wired on any of those devices.
I only mentioned the wired headsets so it's apparent the wired headsets are not the rate limiting step.
I've not tried it with my One X since I don't get it until next week, will be interesting to see is Apt-X lives up to it's billing.

WESBAR said:
cheers. can u tell me where it says it has apt-x?
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Have a look in here.

It's arrived. Initial impressions are good.
Definitely sounds better than previous a2dp headsets I've used. After initial pairing I've noticed one or two occasional dropouts during the first minute or so of playback but it seems pretty stable after that. Swapping between plugged in and bluetooth with the included iem's doesn't highlight any immediate differences (only tried mp3's and aac files with Poweramp) which is good. Previous a2dp's i've used have been more constrained with throughput than the the actual headphones used with them.
Will listen to it a bit more over the weekend with better headphones (Shure SE 530's), higher quality source files and post some thoughts.

WESBAR said:
It's arrived. Initial impressions are good.
Definitely sounds better than previous a2dp headsets I've used. After initial pairing I've noticed one or two occasional dropouts during the first minute or so of playback but it seems pretty stable after that. Swapping between plugged in and bluetooth with the included iem's doesn't highlight any immediate differences (only tried mp3's and aac files with Poweramp) which is good. Previous a2dp's i've used have been more constrained with throughput than the the actual headphones used with them.
Will listen to it a bit more over the weekend with better headphones (Shure SE 530's), higher quality source files and post some thoughts.
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Thanks for the feedback, I have the receiver but won't have my One X till next Wednesday (lucky enough to be getting one for review that I get to keep).
It's meant to be lossless up to ~370kbps according to CSR (the people who developed Apt-X), so I presume for FLAC files you'll start to hear some differences, but for everything up to 320kbps mp3 there shouldn't be any discernible difference if CSR's claims are accurate.

apt-x is a codec used under the a2dp profile.
Hi
In order to clarify a bit. I believe the apt-x is a compression format, which is an extended codec to the a2dp profile of bt.
So you may be comparing apt-x to a range of codecs used under a2dp, where you also find apt-x.
Hope it sort the discussion a bit. And thanks for the input on devices.

Right guys I Love me music and the HOX straight out of the headphone out it's ok. My SGS Voodoo'd kicks its arse out of that water! I'm going to order the HS3000 and test the aptX technology with my TDK BA200 IEMS. To see how it differs.
Will give some feedback once I've had a play with it all.

Car Audio & Galaxy S3 as head unit - there is no "Winning".

Car Audio & Galaxy S3 as head unit - there is no "Winning".
Okay, so for those of us who like to use our phones as a car stereo media source, there just is no 100% "Winning" that I have been able to find.
ANALOG USB AUDIO:
Sure, both TouchWiz and some AOSP ROM's support this. But there are two issues.
1) TouchWiz sucks (IMO).
2) The sound has "low level background noise" (IMO).
3) AOSP docking does not work properly, such as the CarHomeUltra does not get to disable the "home" button like it's supposed to.
DIGITAL USB AUDIO:
Okay, TouchWiz supports it but has lots of "cd-audio type skipping sounds" from time to time. No current AOSP ROM supports it. And because the USB-OTG connector requires certain pins be used on the connector, you lose the auto-dock feature regardless of ROM.
BLUETOOTH AUDIO:
It's a crappy sound for audiophiles. It's just so down compressed, it's useless for some ears.
APT-X BLUETOOTH AUDIO:
Better quality audio, but AT&T has already warned me once that I will lose my Unlimited Data plan if I keep using Bluetooth to my car stereo. And bluetooth in general is a "quirky" working technology that irks me sometimes.
What do I want? I want to be able to use a USB-DAC on an AOSP ROM and keep the auto-dock feature.
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What is aptx and how do I enable it.?
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jiggytom said:
What is aptx and how do I enable it.?
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It is touched upon in this cool DIY by }{Alienz}{:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096585
APT-X is a Bluetooth codec that provides higher resolution Bluetooth audio.

jiggytom said:
What is aptx and how do I enable it.?
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He's a little wrong there. Apt-X is an audio codec that is installed in some high end phones, and is starting to become the standard. Currently no car stereo has the capability of using this codec, but they will probably be on the market by the end of the year. Apt-X is preferred over A2DP because it is loss-less, so the audio quality is the same as plugging your phone in with a AUX cable.
AT&T is blocking you from using the Pandora app on your head unit, because technically it is tethering. The app simply sets up an Ad-Hoc network, and uses the phones internet to stream Pandora that runs on the car stereo.
But...To answer your original question, I would suggest using the standard headset port on your phone. The DAC on the USB plug is generally software driven, and will not give you as good of sound as the standard headphone jack can. If your not satisfied with the quality, get CM10 and DSP Manager to fully customize your sound.

Ummm. Auxiliary? I use it my cars all the time sounds awesome with awesome beats .
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Prime said:
Ummm. Auxiliary? I use it my cars all the time sounds awesome with awesome beats .
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Defeats the purpose of easy use dock.

I use gromaudio bluetooth to my stock head unit.
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CZ Eddie said:
Defeats the purpose of easy use dock.
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Easy use dock?

Prime said:
Easy use dock?
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True one-handed/one step docking action:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057851

CZ Eddie said:
True one-handed/one step docking action:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057851
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CZ Eddie,
I feel for you...because I am going through the same dang crap.
I am surprised you have not corresponded more with me bro. There is hardly anyone out there that seems to be on this One Handed docking quest. Even though there have been HOW MANY MILLION S3's sold...we are in an unpopular niche.
The skipping that I experience is most severe when listening to MEDIA while dialing out, during a call, and during an incoming call ringing. It is like a stuck skipping CD digital like sound. The author of SoundAbout app, is trying to help me solve this issue but he does not have the usb/otg/dac arrangement that we do. One version of his app, eliminated at least the stubborn perpetual skipping, but has a byproduct of losing the media stream after a call...which requires unplugging/replugging the usb cable.
I had such a terrific setup with my old HD2. It was a lightly modified card dock but one handed docking providing POWER and AUDIO via 2 ports, usb and headphone jack. What I am sure I will have to end up doing, is having to connect the Headphone audio out by HAND as a 2nd step. At least, I will have NO SKIPPING, and all audio including CALLS coming into my car deck without any weird bumps!
If I had chosen to go USB analogue out, I get really bad noise but only when charging. Somehow, when it's charging, I get hiss, switching sounds, clicks etc. I can almost 99% confirm it is not ground loop type issues.

1) Regarding aptX: probably, it won't be aptX Loseless that makes it to car stereos, but simply aptX. The Loseless codec looks to be targeted for professionals. But, still aptX is still many times better than the ugly old SBC codec.
2) The codec will change, not the protocol: AptX replaces SBC (not A2DP). A2DP (the transfer protocol) can use whatever codec it wants. So, whenever the car stereos are released, it will be A2DP with aptX. CSR has already released an aptX Bluetooth chipset for car stereos...someone just needs to pick it up and use it now, haha!
3) Concerning BT streaming and "tethering": not to derail this thread since you already have one about this, but I think they're bluffing hard. That representative is confused and wrong. I imagine if you pressed them to provide evidence or explain what their definition of tethering was, they would fail magnificently.
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BT is reliable for me; I mean, it's as reliable as my WiFi when I want to use it. What quirks have you experienced?
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For enabling docking -> hmm...what about using a NFC tag? This one enables docking modes. Or, maybe use a Tasker to detect Bluetooth connectivity?
~Ibrahim~

Auxiliary cord.

IMO an audiophile would never want to use their phone as their main audio source.
And you do realize that achieving true audiophile sound quality in a daily driver is all but impossible?
If your streaming Pandora your not getting anywhere near lossless quality so why not use Bluetooth? Bluetooth audio streaming has come along way. If your standard audio file on your phone is a 320kpbs mp3, your not missing anything streaming via Bluetooth. I was once skeptical about this until I finally found a good pair of BT headphones.
I'm interested to hear more detail about your car audio setup. My setup is decent, better than most everyone else I know and IMO the only difference I can hear between Bluetooth streaming audio from my phone and the music on the sd card in my stereo is the over equalization from being equalized by the phone and again by my sound processor.
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RustyWedges said:
IMO an audiophile would never want to use their phone as their main audio source.
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Somewhat agree.
Convenience is a huge factor in the car.
RustyWedges said:
And you do realize that achieving true audiophile sound quality in a daily driver is all but impossible?
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Agreed.
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If your streaming Pandora your not getting anywhere near lossless quality so why not use Bluetooth?
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Normal Bluetooth vs. other methods has an obvious degredation on the sound for me.
Yes, Pandora sounds bad even when the "high quality" selection is checked off and I pay for the higher resolution.
But, normal Bluetooth makes Pandora sound even worse, according to my ears.
RustyWedges said:
I'm interested to hear more detail about your car audio setup. My setup is decent, better than most everyone else I know a
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Pretty basic at the moment. 50 watts for each of my front & rear speakers. And 300 watts to a 15" Kicker CompVX DVC subwoofer in a 4.5 cu.ft. 32hz tuned enclosure.
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the only difference I can hear between Bluetooth streaming audio from my phone and the music on the sd card in my stereo is the over equalization from being equalized by the phone and again by my sound processor.
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Wow. I hear a boatload of difference between Bluetooth and otherwise. But I'm 42 years old and maybe my ears are just more fine tuned than yours are.
I'm using APT-X [high definition] Bluetooth right now and it's the best compromise in sound & convenience I've found so far.
I keep meaning to write up a DIY on how I have things set up. Just haven't gotten around to it yet.
Btw, you're is "you are" and "your" is not.

I wouldn't full on call myself an audiophile (too poor to be one as student) but I love higher end sound. I personally prefer an aux cord for sound, it's a little less handy I guess but so far gives the best bang for your buck as far as sound goes.
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CZ Eddie said:
I keep meaning to write up a DIY on how I have things set up. Just haven't gotten around to it yet.
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CZ Eddie....waiting for your fabulous DIY write up! :good:

Has anyone noticed some static noise when you plug your phone into auxiliary with no music playing? Doesnt do it on my girlfriends lg.
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xamadeix said:
Has anyone noticed some static noise when you plug your phone into auxiliary with no music playing? Doesnt do it on my girlfriends lg.
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Depends. If your charging cable is too close to the aux jack you'll get electrical feedback. Had it happen with my FM transmitter...I have one of those 1->2 12V adapters with a USB port. Whenever the USB port is used it produces quite a bit of it.

I have to agree with most of what has been said here on the S3 not being up to snuff for car audio. First I will say its my favorite phone I have ever had. Just about everything else about the phone rocks. But when it comes to car audio, I have to say its the ONE and only thing I will give props to my old iphone...using the usb direct to the radio that not only played the highest quality music, but it charged it as well at the same time with one cable and nothing else to do was kick ass. I dont get why if Ipods and Iphones can make this work so well, why cant these guys? I know most stereo makers lean heavily to the iphones and android as a whole is sorta looked over for the most part, sure it may work with android, but they have all the hardware and most things are geared towards iphones. I use either a samsung hs3000 for bluetooth audio or just give up and use the aux, but neither is as good as the iphone on usb. Even the ipod/iphone on aux is not as good as usb. So it works, but your settling for sure.
Alot of times I still will just put the ipod in the car if I really want the better music quality, but I would much rather have an all in one with my phone for music, nav and calls while driving.

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I have to agree with most of what has been said here on the S3 not being up to snuff for car audio. First I will say its my favorite phone I have ever had. Just about everything else about the phone rocks. But when it comes to car audio, I have to say its the ONE and only thing I will give props to my old iphone...using the usb direct to the radio that not only played the highest quality music, but it charged it as well at the same time with one cable and nothing else to do was kick ass. I dont get why if Ipods and Iphones can make this work so well, why cant these guys? I know most stereo makers lean heavily to the iphones and android as a whole is sorta looked over for the most part, sure it may work with android, but they have all the hardware and most things are geared towards iphones. I use either a samsung hs3000 for bluetooth audio or just give up and use the aux, but neither is as good as the iphone on usb. Even the ipod/iphone on aux is not as good as usb. So it works, but your settling for sure.
Alot of times I still will just put the ipod in the car if I really want the better music quality, but I would much rather have an all in one with my phone for music, nav and calls while driving.
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Seen a few stereos with mirror link that look like they would be great for android. Almost bought a sony with it but decided against it due to having to go back to a touchwiz rom as well as I'm hoping miracast will make an appearance in some stereos in the future.
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Has anyone noticed some static noise when you plug your phone into auxiliary with no music playing? Doesnt do it on my girlfriends lg.
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I had the same issue. I bought a ground loop off amazon for around 10 bucks that eliminated 99% of it.
http://www.amazon.com/PAC-Ground-Isolator-3-5-Applications/dp/B001EAQTRI

HTC 10 Audio Thread

Hi all,
Just wanted to put a thread together to talk around the audio capabilities of the HTC 10. From what I can see, the audio is split up into a couple of different areas:
1) Good quality internal hardware (DAC and separate amps for speakers and earphone),
2) Powerful two way speaker setup,
3) Better than normal earphones to take advantage of the hardware, and
4) Good quality software with the Personal Audio Profile System.
5) There is also Airplay support for those with 3rd party airplay speakers.
What hardware are people currently using (earphones, headphones, portable amps, portable usb DAC's)? When the phone is released, it will be good to get peoples impressions and reviews. Also to understand how different hardware affects those experiences (ie. different earphones work better or worse with this phone)??? Also, could this phone be good enough to take you away from dedicated hardware you might have (proper portable music players)?
One thing that I have noted which I haven't seen noted anywhere else is the Personal Audio Profile System being the same as what Aumeo has/is coming out with with their device (click here).
I personally have a couple of pairs of AKG over ear headphones and a pair of Flare R2Pro in-ear phones. Once I get my HTC, I will compare them with the hi-res ear-phones they come with and share my thoughts.
Open questions:
1) What DAC's are being used? What is inbuilt from Qualcomm or specialist 3rd party hardware?
2) What type of 3.5mm connector is being used (AHJ or OMTP), we believe AHJ based on previous HTC phones but could do with confirming)

rav101 said:
Hi all,
Just wanted to put a thread together to talk around the audio capabilities of the HTC 10. From what I can see, the audio is split up into a couple of different areas: 1) Good quality internal hardware (DAC and separate amps for speakers and earphone), 2) Powerful two way speaker setup, 3) better than normal earphones to take advantage of the hardware, and 4) Good quality software with the Personal Audio Profile System. Over these, there is the point that it works with Airplay which has a lot of support in terms of the 3rd party speaker market.
Just curious to see how people feel about the Audio capabilities of the 10 and whether that might be enough to take you away from dedicated hardware if you current use that?
One thing that I have noted which I haven't seen noted anywhere else is the Personal Audio Profile System being the same as what Aumeo has/is coming out with with their device (click here).
I currently have a couple of AKG over ears which I can't drive directly from my LG G4 without having a portable amp in the middle. I also have a pair of Flare R2Pro in ear phones that are quite hard to drive. Can't wait to test these out with the 10 when it comes out!!!
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The 10 recognizes that you have plugged (wired) earphones into the jack and offers you two options for customization, a 'quick question' method and a more detailed method that requires listening to tones on left then right in different frequency ranges. You then have the option to 'save' the audio profile for those earphones. If you plug a different set of earphones in, the device recognizes it and offers you to use the existing profile or create a new one (you can store multiple profiles). This does not work with BT earphones, by the way.
The sound is superior to anything I've ever heard on any audio device. It can make cheap earphones sound good (although I recommend at least midrange earphones), and with decent earphones (I use a Shure pair) it's terrific.

hgoldner said:
The 10 recognizes that you have plugged (wired) earphones into the jack and offers you two options for customization, a 'quick question' method and a more detailed method that requires listening to tones on left then right in different frequency ranges. You then have the option to 'save' the audio profile for those earphones. If you plug a different set of earphones in, the device recognizes it and offers you to use the existing profile or create a new one (you can store multiple profiles). This does not work with BT earphones, by the way.
The sound is superior to anything I've ever heard on any audio device. It can make cheap earphones sound good (although I recommend at least midrange earphones), and with decent earphones (I use a Shure pair) it's terrific.
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That's awesome news that it does this for wired earphones!
Which pair of Shure earphones do you use? And other than these headphones, have you had a chance to try them with any other different sets of earphones?? Have you had a chance to try them with any over ear headphones, ones that might be harder to drive?
Whilst I have your attention. Have you had a play around with different audio formats / qualities? MP3 vs 24bit FLAC to see how much of a difference this makes on this setup?
Regards,
Ravi

rav101 said:
That's awesome news that it does this for wired earphones!
Which pair of Shure earphones do you use? And other than these headphones, have you had a chance to try them with any other different sets of earphones?? Have you had a chance to try them with any over ear headphones, ones that might be harder to drive?
Whilst I have your attention. Have you had a play around with different audio formats / qualities? MP3 vs 24bit FLAC to see how much of a difference this makes on this setup?
Regards,
Ravi
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I don't drive with earphones on (that's illegal here).
I have used the Personal Audio Profiles on 3 different pairs of earphones; a test set supplied with the test phone, Shure e3c's and an over-the-ear Audio-Technica pair. The Shure's and the test earphones are the best. The test earphones are my current daily (and may well be what comes in the box for some models, but I don't know because they don't tell us).

How do the speakers sound? As good as HTC One M7/8/9? Better?

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I don't drive with earphones on (that's illegal here).
I have used the Personal Audio Profiles on 3 different pairs of earphones; a test set supplied with the test phone, Shure e3c's and an over-the-ear Audio-Technica pair. The Shure's and the test earphones are the best. The test earphones are my current daily (and may well be what comes in the box for some models, but I don't know because they don't tell us).
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Sorry, to clarify when I say 'harder to drive' I mean over ear headphones that have a higher impedance. In this case, on other less powerful music players (or other phones), the headphones sound quiet even at max volume.

Trying to find out if it will have aptx hd enabled but no info. Also air play to aiport to dac should sound pretty decent
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I am excited to see the phones response ranges in a test.
Would be cool to have my vinyl rips playing as good as it can get without a $1000 DAP.

Locklear308 said:
I am excited to see the phones response ranges in a test.
Would be cool to have my vinyl rips playing as good as it can get without a $1000 DAP.
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Now that the embargo has lifted, I presume we will start seeing more in depth reviews and those should hopefully include more detailed audio tests.
I use a fiio e12 to amp my current phone (LG G4). Nothing fancy but pretty sure the HTC 10 will do much better than that setup now. :victory:

madcowintucson said:
Trying to find out if it will have aptx hd enabled but no info. Also air play to aiport to dac should sound pretty decent
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I am curious about this too as i will be buying the new lg bluetooth headset.

The audio is one of the main reason why I want this beast!
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Me too! I own a pair of mid-to-top range RHA T10 and I am really anticipating how these will sound with the HTC 10. I am a audiophile and the sound quality is really important to me.

My last two phone's have been the HTC M8 and LG G4. I have found that I use my phone less for music now that I'm using the G4 than the M8 and its because I just enjoy it less. Can't wait to hear how these sound with a good pair of earphones.

Audio Jack
Does anyone know what kind of audio jack standard the HTC 10 will use? Is it AHJ or OMTP?
Then i'll know if I can use the inline controls of my RHA T20i's as currently with my HTC m8.
Edit: Btw - I strongly advise using the Neutron app if you want high-end music. Already supports FLAC but last update also added DSD support for the SACD fanatics
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mp

Hopefully USB Audio works as well! Have they mentioned that at all?

Heretic Infidel said:
Does anyone know what kind of audio jack standard the HTC 10 will use? Is it AHJ or OMTP?
Then i'll know if I can use the inline controls of my RHA T20i's as currently with my HTC m8.
Edit: Btw - I strongly advise using the Neutron app if you want high-end music. Already supports FLAC but last update also added DSD support for the SACD fanatics
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mp
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Found this.
http://forums.windowscentral.com/wi...87-note-headset-standards-omtp-ahj-apple.html
Says HTC uses AHJ...

rav101 said:
Found this.
http://forums.windowscentral.com/wi...87-note-headset-standards-omtp-ahj-apple.html
Says HTC uses AHJ...
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Why on EARTH is there more than one? This would be standardized now days like USB...

Is the audio upconversion/upsampling BS something that can be disabled from settings?

I am happy with the sound quality of the 10 through the speakers as well as through the jack

What type of DAC is in the HTC 10? Because just amping the Qualcomm native DAC won't result in clean awesome audio, just louder. I'm hoping is cirrus/Wolfson or Ess Sabre premium DAC's