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Over the last couple of weeks it seems like my battery has been fairing worse.
My phone was fully charged an hour ago, and I've been browsing/twittering a bit. Battery is now at 69%.
To add to this, I've had my phone on charge overnight a few times and reported full/100% when unplugged. A few mins later the charge drops to ~90%.
I'm beginning to wonder if this is a faulty battery, or a software issue?
There's not much runing in the background, just Facebook, a weather program updating every 2 hrs.
There's nothing out of the ordinary showing up on battery history either.
Thoughts?
I guess you didn't have this problem before the recent update?
I've read alot of people having problems with the battery after the latest OTA update. After the phone is fully charge the battery immediately drops faster than usual. Also, sometimes by HTC battery widget reports 96-100% even if I have charged it over night.
I don't think the draining is faster now than before, except for the foirst 5-10%.
I haven't installed the latest ota update, infact I haven't installed any updates for a while. I might change to a different Rom to see if it makes any difference.
Search threads you'll find an answer to the 90-100% issue. basically it will charge to 100%, then stop charging until it falls to 90% and then charge back up to 100% (rather than trickle charging once it gets to 100% so it will stay there). So when you unplug is after a full charge there is the gamble that you've unplugged it somewhere between 90% and 100% - but you have to wait a few minutes to find out... its so exciting - every morning I can't wait to get to the train station to check if I've guessed correctly...
Just flash a UVOC kernel on your phone
streetdaddy said:
Search threads you'll find an answer to the 90-100% issue. basically it will charge to 100%, then stop charging until it falls to 90% and then charge back up to 100% (rather than trickle charging once it gets to 100% so it will stay there). So when you unplug is after a full charge there is the gamble that you've unplugged it somewhere between 90% and 100% - but you have to wait a few minutes to find out... its so exciting - every morning I can't wait to get to the train station to check if I've guessed correctly...
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hahah you made me laugh
i think it might be worth to drain the battery till 0% then fully recharge to recalibrate the cycle
check in spare parts to see if your phone is sleeping properly. a couple of us are having that problem, o solved it by switching of wireless location. not sure thats a longterm solution though as i am always using geolocation on my phone
I am turning phone of at night but don'ty like doing this, but I always carry my usb lead at work so I can charge up if required in emergency.
I have the same problem.
I recharged my Desire full 6 hours ago, and now I am at 38% remaining battery with moderate usage. I have the latest generic rom.
Before I got it I was reading about bad battery life, but I didn't expect it to be THIS bad. What, 8 hours, 10, 12?
Sad.
ljesh said:
I have the same problem.
I recharged my Desire full 6 hours ago, and now I am at 38% remaining battery with moderate usage. I have the latest generic rom.
Before I got it I was reading about bad battery life, but I didn't expect it to be THIS bad. What, 8 hours, 10, 12?
Sad.
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it doesnt need to be that bad at all, when you get it setup right it will wasily last an entire day, mine suddenly changed and the life got worse but i have found a kind of solution, you need to play around with your settings.
a great saving is to switch mobile data when you are near a computer, you can still receive text messages and make calls and you will use a tiny amount of battery
Email is crucial an basic to me, just like phone calls and more then text messages (I don't need them). Just I have to be able to receive emails at any time. Still, I didn't expect imap over GSM Only (my current setting, I don't need 3G, just basic email sync) to use so much battery. This is my first cell phone to be so bad at battery :/
It's 5 days old, and people say it will get better in days... but lets see. I hope so.
By the way, "setting it up in proper way" I hope it doesn't mean turning off this and that. Because in the end I will receive a basic, phone calls, cell phone. It's not smart anymore
Edit: Since I wrote the previous post, till now, the battery dropped 5%, and now it's at 33%.
totally understand about having email on.
5% in a couple of minutes is totally wrong. gps/wifi on?, what is set to update and how frequently, weather, twitter, stocks, mail sync.
also download spare parts and see what is under partial wake usage and whether or not your desire is going to sleep when the screen is off. its the top option in the app. you want other and since boot and running and screen % and then check partial wake usage, they should be close to the same and see if anything has a large blue bar.
Wifi is off most of the time, if I turn it on it will be only to check something fast (5 minutes max at a period).
Weather updates every 1 hour
Facebook once a day
No twitter, stocks (they are checked in settings -> sync and can confirm that are disabled)
Email keeps the connection only, imap-idle
GPS is disabled, although the weather uses it at the refreshing time, to re-locate me.
Thats all I can think of.
I really use it a little (at least not as much as I would love) and I still lose so much battery.
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Wifi is off most of the time, if I turn it on it will be only to check something fast (5 minutes max at a period).
Weather updates every 1 hour
Facebook once a day
No twitter, stocks (they are checked in settings -> sync and can confirm that are disabled)
Email keeps the connection only, imap-idle
GPS is disabled, although the weather uses it at the refreshing time, to re-locate me.
Thats all I can think of.
I really use it a little (at least not as much as I would love) and I still lose so much battery.
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how often is the mail sync? every 5 mins, 15?
i'd definitely download spare parts from the market it's free, the interface is a bit weird but it gives you useful stats.
it sounds like you know your stuff so i'm going to assume that you dont have bluetooth on you screen on full brightness.
what does it say in settings>about phone>battery>battery use?
The email is imap-idle. It keeps the connection all the time, and waits for email. When the server receives the email, it pushes it to the phone. But connection is kept alive all the time. Idling most of the time, but keeping it alive.
I will check the spare parts program later or tomorrow, I am tired today, long day
Bluetooth is off always, I dont need it. Really, all I need on a phone is email 24/7 (I am linux system administrator, taking care of alot of servers, I need my emails) and like 5 phone calls daily, each not longer then 1 minute (we don't talk much )) )
battery use says:
Android System 96%
CoPilot 2% (freshly installed it and tested a bit, and then terminated it)
Cell standby 2%
Uptime is 21 hours
Awake time is 10 hours
isn't that much? Like half of the time, the phone is awake :/
Edit: brightness is set at automatic
ljesh said:
The email is imap-idle. I
battery use says:
Android System 96%
CoPilot 2% (freshly installed it and tested a bit, and then terminated it)
Cell standby 2%
Uptime is 21 hours
Awake time is 10 hours
isn't that much? Like half of the time, the phone is awake :/
Edit: brightness is set at automatic
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ok, i think we;ve found the problemo, android system at 96% is way off mine is currently at 26 and that is a bit high in my opinion. also my uptime is 7 hours and awake is 1 so thats seven to one as opposed to 2 to 1 in your case.
something is using your system resources and stopping your phone sleeping
I'm glad we got somewhere and I have to thank you for your patience in helping me with my problem.
Tonight I will reboot before I go to sleep, and will disable the email syncing. Just to see if the e-mail makes android be used 96% of the time, and tomorrow I will see the uptime and awake time.
Good idea?
ljesh said:
I'm glad we got somewhere and I have to thank you for your patience in helping me with my problem.
Tonight I will reboot before I go to sleep, and will disable the email syncing. Just to see if the e-mail maked android be used 96% of the time, and tomorrow I will see the uptime and awake time.
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its my pleasure dude, what goes around comes around
i think that is a logical place to start, spare parts will give you a better idea of what is using your resources hopefully by app rather than just android system.
instead of downloading spare parts you can also type this code into the dialer
*#*#4636#*#*
and it will get you the same info
just subscribed to this thread because I'm having similer problems.
"android system" is always 49%-60%
Current uptime - 3hours 4mins
Current awake times - 2hours 37mins.
I have a feeling foursquare might be the culprit since it's ALWAYS in my running apps, even when I've not used it since boot, and shut it with task killer... an hour or so later and it's back.
Something isnt right tho. I think from a full charge I should get 24hours from my phone with moderate use.
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just subscribed to this thread because I'm having similer problems.
"android system" is always 49%-60%
Current uptime - 3hours 4mins
Current awake times - 2hours 37mins.
I have a feeling foursquare might be the culprit since it's ALWAYS in my running apps, even when I've not used it since boot, and shut it with task killer... an hour or so later and it's back.
Something isnt right tho. I think from a full charge I should get 24hours from my phone with moderate use.
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yeah that is absolutely not normal, use spare parts and thatll tell you if it is foursquare
Hows the battery life you guys are experiencing with the mango update in general with and without battery saver mode on
is battery saver mode making a big difference?
im using battery saver for when the battery gets low and im noticing a bit of a stretch of extra battery life on my htc trophy (verizon)
when u turn battery saver mode on doesnt that disable notifications push and toast?
i know i havent tried the battery saver mode on the whole day to notice any difference just wanted to see if anybody else has yet and what kinda life are u getting on battery saver mode on all the time and when the battery gets low
well for the one day that I left my charger at home by accident when going to school I turned on battery saver mode and was able to make it through the entire day with my normal use habits with about 30% remaining once I got home. this was when I was on 7712 haven't done this on the official yet.
My 7720 experience was pretty horrid with battery life until I got the Samsung update on Tuesday. I went from barely making it 10-12 hours on a charge to 18-24 hours. I can get up to 1.5 hours with battery saver turned on.
For the first couple of days, I left my status set to "online" the entire day, and my battery barely lasted through the day (around 15 hours). Battery saver mode came on after about 13 hours, or it wouldn't have lasted.
Today I set myself to offline, and last time I checked it (after around 8 hours of normal use), it showed 80%. So it seems pretty clear to me that overall, Mango battery life is very good, but keeping yourself online is a killer.
Syst3m said:
My 7720 experience was pretty horrid with battery life until I got the Samsung update on Tuesday. I went from barely making it 10-12 hours on a charge to 18-24 hours. I can get up to 1.5 hours with battery saver turned on.
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same here but HTC surround. Went from 7712 to official mango
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Battery saver mode works pretty well for me... I love it... Thank god its inbuilt and I didn't had to download another one dollar application to do this thing.. Things like this should be inbuilt .. Also adding additional tile shortcuts of any kind we want..
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Haven't tried it. Battery life went down noticeably but I have chargers everywhere. I stay online all day. If I wasn't online in message hub I'd be online in some other app so why not. On Android my gtalk is always on as well. Don't see this phone lasting a day for me with or without battery saver, lol.
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I'm still debating about staying online all day. Most of the people I chat with on Facebook are online in the evening, but not so much during the day.
But I love the battery saver option. When I was online all day, and it did kick in toward the end of the day, I observed the battery usage drop to a mere trickle (it only lost around 1-2% per hour after that). So, without having to change anything, I can be assured that my phone will still be available in an emergency.
at full charge my venue pro shows me around 3 days and 18 or so hrs...with battery saver i get 3 more added...best part is i play music moderately, use the radio, wifi on all the time and at the days end it stil shows around 2 days and 12 hrs or so time left....is somthing wrong cos when i first bought the phone, 15 hours was the maximum i got for the phone.....
plug in charge usb messenging hub locks up
has anybody had this happen?
when your phone is in battery saver mode and you plug it in it becomes unresponsive and kind of locks up. messages and emails don't send or receive.
only way it ever happens for me:
if i was in a message and i plug into usb computer or wall outlet power the phone cant switch back from a message to the list of messages, i cant send the message that is typed, i cant type, and no messages are received (or show up after a reset) i can go back home but every time i try to do something it says loading and closeshas happened for a year now
Battery life for me in Mango and 8107 (or whatever the latest update is called) has been pretty awful. I recently did a hard reset.
Post hard reset, a full charge would say 1D 4hours or something
After a few weeks, a full charge now says 18 hours, but lasts considerably less.
By noon my phone is at 50%, if I don't charge it, it hits battery saver mode by the time I leave (6pm). That's with taking it off the charger at 7am, and barely using it. Pretty horrible.
I'm seriously considering a BlackBerry. WP is great and all, but it's just not built for business use. And I need a battery that can last more than 10 minutes.
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Battery life for me in Mango and 8107 (or whatever the latest update is called) has been pretty awful. I recently did a hard reset.
Post hard reset, a full charge would say 1D 4hours or something
After a few weeks, a full charge now says 18 hours, but lasts considerably less.
By noon my phone is at 50%, if I don't charge it, it hits battery saver mode by the time I leave (6pm). That's with taking it off the charger at 7am, and barely using it. Pretty horrible.
I'm seriously considering a BlackBerry. WP is great and all, but it's just not built for business use. And I need a battery that can last more than 10 minutes.
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Sounds like you have a bad battery. My titan is at about 72% after an 8 hour day with lots of email use and some browsing / texting through the day. (i check 7 email account and exchange and hotmail are both push) Currently at 10pm mine still says 52% and estimates 10 more hours use. Now if i were to play a game for an hour or more i'd probably kill it but for browsing and more business like use... it can't be beat. My old surround lasts about 16 hours with wifi on unless my wife games it to death.
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Sounds like you have a bad battery. My titan is at about 72% after an 8 hour day with lots of email use and some browsing / texting through the day. (i check 7 email account and exchange and hotmail are both push) Currently at 10pm mine still says 52% and estimates 10 more hours use. Now if i were to play a game for an hour or more i'd probably kill it but for browsing and more business like use... it can't be beat. My old surround lasts about 16 hours with wifi on unless my wife games it to death.
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Geez I wish.
Maybe it is time to switch it out. I've had it since Jan '11.
So my battery life so far has been hugely inconsistent. The first day it was draining so fast (60% in an hour) that I contemplated turning around and taking it right back to the Verizon store.
I decided to give it a better chance than that and gave it a full conditioning cycle and all seemed well - I got 16 hours with moderate usage including an hour and a half where my screen was constantly on! I was very pleased. Extremely pleased.
So I charge my phone back up to 100% before I go to sleep then take it off the charger once it does. I drift off into dreamland, dead to the world, and five hours later I decided to check my phone for calls, texts and email.
Before I could even pull my notification bar down I saw something horrific - an extremely low battery capacity, nearly red. Checked battery usage and it said it went from 100% to 13% in about 5.5 hours.
Android OS - 64%
Phone Idle - 10%
This is the big indicator. Under Android OS, my phone (not the display) was kept awake for an hour and a half overnight. I'm really not sure what's going on here and what's causing this to happen. I haven't downloaded much - 1 game, Skype, Google Reader, Facebook, Tweetcaster, Evernote and Foursquare - and none of them showed any signs of being the culprit.
As you can tell, this is very worrisome. If I can't get more than 5.5 hours on a full charge what use is this phone to me? Does anyone know what could be going on or has anyone else run into this issue?
You're not the only one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
godsfshrmn said:
You're not the only one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
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Thank you! I will direct my attention over there. Mods please close this thread.
hello !
i was just wondering if you're experiencing the same battery drain I do.. I am on battery since 7 o clock when i went to school and I am left with 14% of battery now after 14 hours.. facebook updating every 4 hours, push notifications enabled, 3G on, 40 minutes active on facebook, 10 minutes of browsing and a bit of gaming ~ 2h7 of screen on time and 30 mins of phonecalls..
is that normal?! post your results or stats please !
That sounds about right. I usually have to charge at the end of the day around 6pm.
whats your usage?
and hows it about the screen brightness? mine is approx. ~30% so autobrightness if i get into light..
On a normal day for me... I'm txt constantly and browsing and or doing something on it.
My phone is off the charger 6am onward. By the time I get to 4pm... it's very well at about 10% left.
Screen brightness is usually at 25%. I've also recently removed most of the bloatware off the phone which doesn't run.
My autoupdate is mostly turnoff off on all my apps except for fb every 4hours, twitter every 4hrs and my email is on all the time.
Avast is always running and I toggle between data and wifi constantly.
I'm happy if I get a good 12 to 14hours worth of usage before a charge. Mind you I'm only running on a 1350mah battery. I was thinking of looking for a 1800mah. Could give me a few more hours.
Cheers.
why 1350 mah? normally the arc comes with 1500? okay.. that sounds fine.. screen on time bout 2 hours right?
So I had several calls yesterday for over 30 mins each..
Each time i would hear echoy sound of my voice, and i also feel like i could hear the voice coming out of the phone lol, even though the phone isnt on speaker.
I also my have a bad battery it'll go pretty low i guess. Yesterday was my first full day using it, went to work at 70% since i forgot to charge it, at noon unplugged it's at 100% came home around 9 and got 10% left. , so i got 9 hours in total, from calls. light browsing, light twitter, facebook use.. I havent even setup my work email, and i constantly get over 100+ emails a day on my account. So i know battery will go significantly
Should I wipe everything clean and see if it works.. I have 14 days to return for a new one.
also today left my house at 7:30.. it 9:50 now and already at 75%...
I think someone else on here had similar issue with having an echo when speaking into the phone. If im not mistaken they exchanged it and the new one did not have the problem. Maybe you should take it in for an exchange.
As far as battery life, well it seems to be varying from user to user. I am getting pretty good battery life, anywhere from 12-15 hours on a charge with medium use. On light use I get well over 15 hours. There are some that seem to be having poor battery life. Have you checked your battery stats? Whats your android OS % at? And what is your screen on time? Have you turned on ECO mode?
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I think someone else on here had similar issue with having an echo when speaking into the phone. If im not mistaken they exchanged it and the new one did not have the problem. Maybe you should take it in for an exchange.
As far as battery life, well it seems to be varying from user to user. I am getting pretty good battery life, anywhere from 12-15 hours on a charge with medium use. On light use I get well over 15 hours. There are some that seem to be having poor battery life. Have you checked your battery stats? Whats your android OS % at? And what is your screen on time? Have you turned on ECO mode?
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Someone else had the echoy thing.
Yesterday my OS wast at 56% and screen is at 28%,
Today its almost the same..
My brightness is at 30% though.
Got a replacement yesterday..
Left the house at 8:20, after 2 hours im at 88%.. But my Android OS is at 62%. is this bad.?
HelloDominick said:
Got a replacement yesterday..
Left the house at 8:20, after 2 hours im at 88%.. But my Android OS is at 62%. is this bad.?
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Assuming you dont have a lemon, it all depends on how you use your phone.
Do you have lots of apps with push notifications?
Or do you have lots of apps that check for new notifications every 10 minutes?
Screen brightness? Screen-on time?
What radios do you have on?
...the list goes on
On a typical day, I can get about 12 hours with moderate use (3 hrs screen on time). Close to 24 hours with light use. Mine idles pretty well (approx 1% or less battery loss per hour).
FWIW - my 'Android OS' is usually at around 50% and screen is at about 25%
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Assuming you dont have a lemon, it all depends on how you use your phone.
Do you have lots of apps with push notifications?
Or do you have lots of apps that check for new notifications every 10 minutes?
Screen brightness? Screen-on time?
What radios do you have on?
...the list goes on
On a typical day, I can get about 12 hours with moderate use (3 hrs screen on time). Close to 24 hours with light use. Mine idles pretty well (approx 1% or less battery loss per hour).
FWIW - my 'Android OS' is usually at around 50% and screen is at about 25%
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Facebook every hour
Twitter every 15 mins,
Work email every 1 hour
I do have ESPN scorescenter, Pandora, Google Music, Spotify as a widget, but their notifications are set to none. Will this drain battery on the screen.?
Screen brightness is at 20%, outside 55%.
Where do I check Screen on time.?
Wifi, BT, GPS, NFC are all off. Only thing on is the 3g network.
Right now 6 hours, im at 63%.
HelloDominick said:
Facebook every hour
Twitter every 15 mins,
Work email every 1 hour
I do have ESPN scorescenter, Pandora, Google Music, Spotify as a widget, but their notifications are set to none. Will this drain battery on the screen.?
Screen brightness is at 20%, outside 55%.
Where do I check Screen on time.?
Wifi, BT, GPS, NFC are all off. Only thing on is the 3g network.
Right now 6 hours, im at 63%.
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Doesn't seem like a lemon to me. Falls somewhat in line with my battery experience.
You can check screen on time by going to the power saver in settings, scroll down to battery use and hit that. Then hit 'screen'
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Doesn't seem like a lemon to me. Falls somewhat in line with my battery experience.
You can check screen on time by going to the power saver in settings, scroll down to battery use and hit that. Then hit 'screen'
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at 21%, 1 hour 59 mins
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at 21%, 1 hour 59 mins
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Yep - sounds about right. I think you're good to go.
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Yep - sounds about right. I think you're good to go.
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and i didn't turn on eco mode or power saving. So my phone is normal then.?. Not a bug on 4.0.4 or a bad unit.
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and i didn't turn on eco mode or power saving. So my phone is normal then.?. Not a bug on 4.0.4 or a bad unit.
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Yeah - I never turned those on or used any kind of juice defender either (thought I am on Wifi alot). I think you're fine.
Try this - fully charge your phone before you go to bed. Leave it off the charger over night. See how much your battery drops. Even with a few google accounts on push, facebook messenger push, instagram push, LG social+ and a couple of news readers that auto-update every few hours, I've seen my battery drop at most 5% over 7 hours.
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Yeah - I never turned those on or used any kind of juice defender either (thought I am on Wifi alot). I think you're fine.
Try this - fully charge your phone before you go to bed. Leave it off the charger over night. See how much your battery drops. Even with a few google accounts on push, facebook messenger push, instagram push, LG social+ and a couple of news readers that auto-update every few hours, I've seen my battery drop at most 5% over 7 hours.
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will try it later tonight..
yesterday i went to long island and lasted maybe 8 hours because i was using it heavily..but then charged it at their house to 80% and after 11 hours i was down to 9%.. with light-medium use