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Need tester of quake3droid (FPS curiosity)

I'm curious to see what FPS quake3droid will run at on the G2. It will decide if I swap my Vibrant or not. PM me for it or get it from the market. Hope to see how the results are.

If you wanna pm it to me I'll check

Ill test as well
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I'm getting 50's and 60's FPS sometimes 40's and if i receive a text while playing it goes down for a few secs. You do mean the FPS it says in the top right right?
EDIT:Ok now it's looking like it's between 40-60

40-60? Definitely good... The Nexus One / Evo was averaging 25-30. Droid X solid 60, Vibrant 50-60.
Just wanted to know how powerful the G2 was and felt like that was the best way, thanks for letting me know!

Anderdroid said:
40-60? Definitely good... The Nexus One / Evo was averaging 25-30. Droid X solid 60, Vibrant 50-60.
Just wanted to know how powerful the G2 was and felt like that was the best way, thanks for letting me know!
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Yea pretty sure I would of gotten higher if I ended all my task beforehand I'll do that and try again
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I'll try it out too if you pm me. Have no problems runnin that test...
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you can pm it to me too and ill give it a try as well

If you need more testers let me know, I'm curious to test as well because my friends vibrant had better fps in most the quadrant 3d tests compared to my G2

I actually purchased it from Market, and the performance is pretty much what you're hearing.
It runs pretty buttery-smooth. I suck at playing it though >_<

My G2 came yesterday so I've been able to test it myself and it does run pretty smooth. Could edit settings and push it to 60FPS maybe. We'll see what I can do in an update.

It runs beautifully on the G2. Nice high FPS around 60 for me, but I am not good at it either.
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[Q] Battery Life, Standby Current

Hey all,
I just picked up a G2 and got all excited and dumped Virtuous onto it (I'm very used to Sense).
I soon realized that the battery life of this thing is ridiculously bad. I put CurrentWidget on it (I switched from Android on HD2), and noted that it's draining, on standby, at ~60-80 mA. That's very high; on the Android on HD2, it sometimes is as low as 7-9mA (on average).
I'm not doing anything particularly special, and I've got the same settings on both. It's unlikely it's the reading, as the percentages go down like crazy on the G2 (or get stuck; it often gets stuck at 96% for an hour or two and then goes down very quickly). Quantitatively, it's about 1% per five or ten minutes, while I could get maybe 1% per half hour or 45 minutes on the HD2.
Has anybody done any CurrentWidget tests on their G2? I've searched around, and it seems that not many others are using this test (it's very popular over with the HD2 kids. ). Does anybody have numbers they'd like to share? I'd be very interested in seeing them!
I'll, meanwhile, try the AOSP and stock build again to see how the widget performs on that. I'm very sure this isn't normal, though...
Thanks!

The norm for me is 28-38ma on stand by, you will not be able to get it as low as the HD2. It stays at 100% for about 1 1/2 hours after that it drops and at the 60's slows down again.
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ddgarcia05 said:
The norm for me is 28-38ma on stand by, you will not be able to get it as low as the HD2. It stays at 100% for about 1 1/2 hours after that it drops and at the 60's slows down again.
Do you have any task killers running? Menu, setting, about phone, battery stats, then youll see what app is eating the battery.
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I've posted before and was able to get the phone to last 12 hours on 1%. It drained at such a low mA that it said 0 and 1 often. I will try to get it that low if i can again since i changed to RC4.
Will post screenshots and logs of information on apps running then make a guide about what settings need to be where and what files need to be deleted and added.

ddgarcia05 said:
The norm for me is 28-38ma on stand by, you will not be able to get it as low as the HD2. It stays at 100% for about 1 1/2 hours after that it drops and at the 60's slows down again.
Do you have any task killers running? Menu, setting, about phone, battery stats, then youll see what app is eating the battery.
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That's odd, though. I would've expected otherwise, considering that Android on HD2 requires most things to read/write to SD card, which would supposedly be more power-hungry than writing to NAND...
Nope; I've run tests on almost pure stock builds (just Astro + CurrentWidget + SetCPU installed, but I don't even have SetCPU running...). Happens on both Virtuous and Villain (Sense builds). Thanks for your input!
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I've posted before and was able to get the phone to last 12 hours on 1%. It drained at such a low mA that it said 0 and 1 often. I will try to get it that low if i can again since i changed to RC4.
Will post screenshots and logs of information on apps running then make a guide about what settings need to be where and what files need to be deleted and added.
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That's amazing. Please do post additional information when you have time! I'd be happy to spend some time in the coming weeks to replicate your behavior.

for some reason my g2s battery got better as time progressed.
fresh out the box=needed 2 charges a day
3 weeks later= 7am-10pm still at 36% with HEAVY use.

Shouldn't Standby eat more than the HD2 based on it being 4g? Also I use the GSM/CDMA Auto which has increased my battery life significantly. *#*#4636#*#* phone info. My time without signal was around 9% and is down to 0 since changing it. I am a pretty heavy user and I usually go about 24-30 hours on a single charge. (I'm using the chitech 1800 mah battery though.)
Edit: I'm OC'd to 1497 with 245/245 screen off profile.

urfavoritemazn said:
for some reason my g2s battery got better as time progressed.
fresh out the box=needed 2 charges a day
3 weeks later= 7am-10pm still at 36% with HEAVY use.
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I really want to get that type of battery life! It might have something to do with batterystats.bin being well conditioned. I've tried running to zero and it seems to help a little little bit...
rUsTyRuSs said:
Shouldn't Standby eat more than the HD2 based on it being 4g? Also I use the GSM/CDMA Auto which has increased my battery life significantly. *#*#4636#*#* phone info. My time without signal was around 9% and is down to 0 since changing it. I am a pretty heavy user and I usually go about 24-30 hours on a single charge. (I'm using the chitech 1800 mah battery though.)
Edit: I'm OC'd to 1497 with 245/245 screen off profile.
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That might be true, although I don't have any 4g around in my area. That said, I think HSPA+ is just another bit onto HSDPA, which is what the HD2 has anyway. I don't think it should consume that much more power... (3x fold!). I've tried switching to GSM/CDMA Auto (PRL), but I was using GSM Auto already. We'll see if it helps too!
Thanks guys for your input and feedback; I hope it'll help others, too.

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Shouldn't Standby eat more than the HD2 based on it being 4g?
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Argh, it's not "4G", that's just some made-up T-Mobile nonsense about HSPA+ (still an uprated 3G technology).

Lol I feel your pain
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Droid.incredible gets really hot! !

Hey guys let me tell you about this probably normal but weird thing that happens to my inc, it gets really hot from the back. I have been using the web (couple pages), mms app, 1 phone call, and the xda app. Have also installed advanced task killer froyo and stopped all applications from running on backround. I am using skyraiders 3.5 rom. I have it plugged in to the wall charger. And after I unplug It just dies quckly, its temperature is 109.8°F/43.2°C. Im using stock battery. Can the battery be causing this? Am I going to have to replce for another battery? Does anybody else have this problem? Any feedback is appreciated.
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pena020563 said:
Hey guys let me tell you about this probably normal but weird thing that happens to my inc, it gets really hot from the back. I have been using the web (couple pages), mms app, 1 phone call, and the xda app. Have also installed advanced task killer froyo and stopped all applications from running on backround. I am using skyraiders 3.5 rom. I have it plugged in to the wall charger. And after I unplug It just dies quckly, its temperature is 109.8°F/43.2°C. Im using stock battery. Can the battery be causing this? Am I going to have to replce for another battery? Does anybody else have this problem? Any feedback is appreciated.
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I've had mine to 115°F. There's tons of debates about task killers. That in fact could very well be causing your problems. If you have it set to kill background apps that are meant to run they will start up as soon as the task is killed. This cycle will drain a battery pretty damn quick and cause it to get hot. My opinion, take it off. Its not needed. Just cause its "running" in the background doesnt mean its actively doing anything. look at the battery use and then click on an app thats "running" it will tell you how long it has been actively using power.

Task killers are bad.
Your temp is fine, but watch out if it starts getting around 115+. The LED will flash if you hit 119, that's getting into the danger zone.
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Also get app Android System Info (by ElectricSheep). You can go to the task tab, then sort by cpu to see what app is running most. (Android System info, I.e. the app you're using, will be quit high. But that's temporary). Like others said, it's probably the task killer.
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yeah i thought so! well the rthing is that i had another inc before the one i had and it wouldnt even get near this hot but im looking on ebay right now to buy another battery, and just test it out to see if the battery makes any difference!
another question, do you think the OEM evo battery will last longer on my inc? i mean since the evo runs more apps and the os is more complex? would it fit my inc?

pena020563 said:
yeah i thought so! well the rthing is that i had another inc before the one i had and it wouldnt even get near this hot but im looking on ebay right now to buy another battery, and just test it out to see if the battery makes any difference!
another question, do you think the OEM evo battery will last longer on my inc? i mean since the evo runs more apps and the os is more complex? would it fit my inc?
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yup evo batterys fit in the inc

What do you mean by this?
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do you think the OEM evo battery will last longer on my inc? i mean since the evo runs more apps and the os is more complex?
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The evo is just a bigger screen version of the DInc with WiMax.

I meant to say since the evo has a bigger screen, and its 4g , so i think it uses more battery power than the incredible right? So the evo stock battery should holdbmore power than the incredible stock battery
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pena020563 said:
I meant to say since the evo has a bigger screen, and its 4g , so i think it uses more battery power than the incredible right? So the evo stock battery should holdbmore power than the incredible stock battery
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Yes, the evo's battery is a little bigger but I really doubt the battery is your problem. If I were you I'd just do a clean install and see how things go. Don't download a task killer either.
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The only task killer I can recommend is watchdog. It doesn't act like other task killers. It doesn't kill anything by default. and warns you if a background task is using over a configurable percentage of cpu time. you can then kill it if you desire. Pretty useful for those rogue apps that some times freeze up, and take the processing power with it.
I'm looking at you trillian and foxyring >:[

wizardofyendor said:
The only task killer I can recommend is watchdog. It doesn't act like other task killers. It doesn't kill anything by default. and warns you if a background task is using over a configurable percentage of cpu time. you can then kill it if you desire. Pretty useful for those rogue apps that some times freeze up, and take the processing power with it.
I'm looking at you trillian and foxyring >:[
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+1 for Watchdog, wouldn't call it a task killer tho as its more a cpu monitor but it can kill tasks also (because of its high usage)

+2 for watchdog. Use the paid version and love it!
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I'm done 84 to 68 from Wifi/Music in 25 minutes

My battery went from 84% to 68% from texting, wifi, and music... (I wasn't even browsing the web....)
My solution... I bought a used ZUNE 30gb (the orig) for $60... I can't afford an iPod right now... money is tight....
I hate this battery... or phone for doing this to me...
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Batteries are insanely cheap on eBay. $20 will get you an external charger and two or three batteries. Worth it. Changes how you use your phone entirely.
And the battery on this phone is still leaps and bounds better than anything before it.

Wifi isn't a juice hog...3G is...wifi will save you battery by keeping you off of 3G. Playing music barely sucks any juice at all unless you are powering huge headphones at max volume, and even that that's not that much juice....and texting uses 2G that is going back-n-forth anyway.
...something else is up.

Took my phone off the charger at 96% and watched a 30min video and after I was down at 85%. I was using 4g too.
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yeah somethings going wrong f,sure.
I Tunein Radio Pro on wifi for 2.5 hours in the morning only using up 15-17%
During that time frame I'm checking incoming emails....usually 10 of them & Tweetcaster is full blast updating.

This phone has the best battery of any android I ever used other than the razr maxxx and I use it a lot
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I had NO 4G or 3G on...
no GPS either... wtf?
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deedscreen said:
I had NO 4G or 3G on...
no GPS either... wtf?
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oh thanks for reminding me lol
I also use PYKL3 radar for a couple min in that 2.5 hr span gps enabled.
wtf is right!
You should be getting much better battery life espeacly on Blazer

Sometimes the actual battery itself is just bad.

I always have issues like this with android phones... it must be user error...
I'm running Google Music, (now known as Google Play Music) ...
could that be eating my battery up???
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Let's not forget that a weak 3G signal will murder a battery....weak 2G as well, though nowhere near as rapidly. Also some apps and widgets are notorious for sucking the battery dry...and there is also leaving background syncing on. For most people this is almost a non-issue, but, for some it is detrimental. Task killers are also bad news.

Did u check for wakelocks with other apps that shouldnt have been running some apps will suck the juice down fast ive found a few games with some dumbass updater crap that ran 24/7 and killed my battery and those damn airpush ads may only send u 1 ad a day but the updater runs constantly looking for an ad to push which is annoying in itself let alone the battery drain
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This might sounds wierd but today i took my phone off charger at 86% and i started to make calls and i notice my battery was going up and it end up going to 91% in 3 hours and barely text and 2 calls i was like wow
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in my case... I use about 300 apps... yes... as crazy as that sounds... I use most of them daily... that's why I switched from the Photon... the Photon's lagging processor couldn't handle it....
I need an auto task killer besides ATK which I hear is very bad news...
why are task killers so bad???
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tech7 said:
This might sounds wierd but today i took my phone off charger at 86% and i started to make calls and i notice my battery was going up and it end up going to 91% in 3 hours and barely text and 2 calls i was like wow
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That's a side-effect and/or another manifestation of the notorious Samsung battery bug. Ever notice how sometimes you reboot your phone and go from 70-90% down to 15-25% instantly? Well, I've noticed that it will also creep it's way back up, even under use....this sounds like that, though, admittedly I've never seen it happen at such a high battery level.

tech7 said:
This might sounds wierd but today i took my phone off charger at 86% and i started to make calls and i notice my battery was going up and it end up going to 91% in 3 hours and barely text and 2 calls i was like wow
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I mean no disprespect... but... I think you or your phone are on crack... what have you been feeding your phone??
That's it!!! I'm calling ADPS --- Android Device Protection Services!!! You will loose your phone if you keep giving your phone drugs... you may also face 10-20 years in prison for such a wicked crime.
lol, but I doubt you're on drugs... but I know that your phone is....
could you have charged it and not realized that you did???
maybe your phone didn't update battery stats properly and fixed itself after you made those calls.
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deedscreen said:
in my case... I use about 300 apps... yes... as crazy as that sounds... I use most of them daily... that's why I switched from the Photon... the Photon's lagging processor couldn't handle it....
I need an auto task killer besides ATK which I hear is very bad news...
why are task killers so bad???
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Android, as of Froyo, revamped it's auto-kill/freeze system to be even more effective. It really does work fine. Just because something was loaded doesn't mean it's consuming memory and/or processor cycles. Seeing that it appears to be 'running' might piss you off, but, just let it go. If you start killing these tasks they will inevitably pop up again...that DOES take processor cycles and memory....so now you've got a task killer actively running, consuming memory and processor cycles to kill programs that weren't really consuming any resources that will probably start back up to see if they have to do anything and that also consumes resources.
that's the dumbed-down version so far as I understand it.
So, on recent versions of Android task killers can not only be unnecessary but also counter productive.

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That's a side-effect and/or another manifestation of the notorious Samsung battery bug. Ever notice how sometimes you reboot your phone and go from 70-90% down to 15-25% instantly? Well, I've noticed that it will also creep it's way back up, even under use....this sounds like that, though, admittedly I've never seen it happen at such a high battery level.
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damn it... I love when phones are on drugs
well, I think you have a point.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Did u check for wakelocks with other apps that shouldnt have been running some apps will suck the juice down fast ive found a few games with some dumbass updater crap that ran 24/7 and killed my battery and those damn airpush ads may only send u 1 ad a day but the updater runs constantly looking for an ad to push which is annoying in itself let alone the battery drain
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I'll try an auto task killer with great reviews besides phone killing ATK.
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daneurysm said:
Android, as of Froyo, revamped it's auto-kill/freeze system to be even more effective. It really does work fine. Just because something was loaded doesn't mean it's consuming memory and/or processor cycles. Seeing that it appears to be 'running' might piss you off, but, just let it go. If you start killing these tasks they will inevitably pop up again...that DOES take processor cycles and memory....so now you've got a task killer actively running, consuming memory and processor cycles to kill programs that weren't really consuming any resources that will probably start back up to see if they have to do anything and that also consumes resources.
that's the dumbed-down version so far as I understand it.
So, on recent versions of Android task killers can not only be unnecessary but also counter productive.
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damn it, you have a valid point
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Update kills battery life and adds lots of heat

Kitkat update killed battery life and makes the tablet extremely hot near the camera on the back. What gives?
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I don't have a solution but the same problem. I'm fine with it getting warm but it's getting really hot! It's great that we have kitkat but it's not all that stable yet.
Restarting seems to help temporarily. Feels like something gets stuck and then makes the CPU run extra stuff but I don't see anything with my wakelock analyzing apps...
When it is in "battery-eating-mode" even browsing or watching a video makes it run hot!

Generally it indicates that a file or service has become stuck, or hung. For me it's common for the Samsung.index.service to get stuck indexing a file and sometimes lasts 3 days before it's resolved.
You should use some kind of monitor to see whats causing it.
Gsam battery monitor does a good job of showing rogue apps, and battery and heat.
Also a CPU monitor is included in the debug/developer which can also show the culprit.
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I quite upset about this now. I reset my device and still have the same problem. My tablet used to be excellent and had great battery life. Now Kitkat Haase it basically useless because the battery drains so fast.
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Indexservice uses 30 percent of my battery. I read that happens if you have lots of pdfs on an external SD card, but for me that is the whole point of this device. If I just wanted to play games, watch videos and surf the Web I would've gotten an ipad. Really dissapointed with Samsung here. Did they not test the device before they released the update? Or do they clock out of their jobs and go home and use ipads?
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Yeah the indexservice did the exact same to mine, Samsung were no help. Happened even when I put PDF's on internal storage.
I had no other choice but to root it and freeze the service with titanium backup, I really didn't want to, but I was left with no other choice.
As I had gone that far I also froze a bunch of other Samsung apps/services - I am so glad I did, the tab absolutely flys along now - feels like a different machine.
Root it, you won't be disappointed

Sony released a statement suggesting disabling the Google backup functions to improve battery life with kitkat Roms. If you don't need those maybe you wanna try that as well.
Settings/general/accounts and save&backup

It will likely fix itself after a few days. It happens on mine every few months for a day or two. Then it settles down and works normally. Same on all Samsung devices.
Has nothing to do with KitKat.
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I did some testing with an app to check cpu frequency and here's what I found:
Sometimes the tablet goes into "fury mode". Which means that as soon as there is any task for the cpu however small it may be it drives all cores to max 1.9ghz and full speed. Which means even while I'm browsing or watching a video the tablet runs about as hot as when playing an intense 3D game. And with equally bad battery life.
Really bad performance/efficiency handling. Like now I've been browsing(chrome) for 30 min and it ate 15% battery life and it's extremely hot on the back where the cpu is. There aren't any special processes running I've checked with watchtower. Cpu load is not that high but frequency has been constant 1.9ghz max speed on all cores... need custom Kernel PLZ.
I have to say though this is not always the case. Sometimes after a restart or when it was laying around for a while this fury mode doesn't happen.

just rooted and froze indexiservice using titanium backup...hopefully this will help

Ok looks like everything is good now.
Rooted and used titanium backup to freeze all the stupid stuff that was causing the device to get super hot
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red321red321 said:
Ok looks like everything is good now.
Rooted and used titanium backup to freeze all the stupid stuff that was causing the device to get super hot
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What exactly did you freeze? Thanks
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indexservice as well as lots of useless Samsung and Google junk
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Oh wait I see some stuff, like ram_optimize
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