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Best Advanced Task Killer

Looking to download a ATK but there's so many to chose from advice would be greatly appreciated. Please include dev's name zoo that I can get the right one and research properly.
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None Android does a great job.

hooover said:
None Android does a great job.
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What he said.

Just download watchdog lite

Please look up some articles written by people smarter than me on why android as an OS handles multitasking far better than anything you're used to by googling something like "android task killer waste bad" if you want a well researched explanation that is over your head.
Basically, you don't need it. And if you're using it to only kill some rogue app once in a blue moon (which is the only legitimate reason to use it), you may as well use the built in force close function of Froyo instead of a separate app.

I just get horrible battery life. I'm running:
ROM: VirusROM Airbourne RC3.4
Kernel: 2.6.32.15-netarchy-toast mod-4.1.9.1-cfs with aggressive undervolting
And underclocked as far as you can go.
Getting horrible battery life even on standby just wondering if having a ATK would help out at all I know Android your not supposed to really one but at this point I'm willing to try. I mean I'm a moderate phone user but I figured the battery should last at least a few hours. I can't leave home without a charger.
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I'm pretty new here but have been doing alot of research here. I would go into settings, battery and see if your phone has been searching for a signal. Mine is at 0% and i get great battery life but iknow this has been a big drain on the battery if your phone is spending a lot of time searching for a signal .
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TheUnquietMind said:
I just get horrible battery life. I'm running:
ROM: VirusROM Airbourne RC3.4
Kernel: 2.6.32.15-netarchy-toast mod-4.1.9.1-cfs with aggressive undervolting
And underclocked as far as you can go.
Getting horrible battery life even on standby just wondering if having a ATK would help out at all I know Android your not supposed to really one but at this point I'm willing to try. I mean I'm a moderate phone user but I figured the battery should last at least a few hours. I can't leave home without a charger.
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Try JuiceDefender

You don't need it with an evo, but I did find that 2.1 didn't do a glorious job of freeing up memory with my RAM-less Samsung Moment. In that case, I needed to kill stuff that didn't always come back or as frequently. With the EVO, I've seen no reason so far to have it.

I run ATK, SystemPanel, and occasionally EStrong Task Manager.
Not to kill but because I like to see whats running.
People jump to conclusions the second you mention Task Killer. (*Points up*)
I honestly get better battery life with task killers because an app that's consuming cpu won't get killed by android because i have 260mb free memory, I can kill it manually.
Anyways, Could try tweaking the built in task manager with this:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-dustypixels-minfreemanager-wiAA.aspx MinFreeManager.

[Q] Juice Defender or Superpower?

Which do you guys think is better in terms of saving some battery and not hindering my performance at all?

What is superpower
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Neither, it is a placebo effect. Find the right kernel and change some settings in your phone. These are not needed.
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Yellowcard8992 said:
Neither, it is a placebo effect. Find the right kernel and change some settings in your phone. These are not needed.
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Actually I run stock, and I can tell you its no Placebo effect, my battery without it ran up to 12 hours, but with it I can get close to 30. Its main thing is(for both of them) is that it shuts down your data when your screen is off, and only turning it on at certain intervals. When your screen is on the data is on. They both are about the same, I prefer JD, but have used SP. It is a legit way to save battery especially if your stock as well as rooted. Now app killers on the other hand...not so much.

Righteous Joe said:
Actually I run stock, and I can tell you its no Placebo effect, my battery without it ran up to 12 hours, but with it I can get close to 30. Its main thing is(for both of them) is that it shuts down your data when your screen is off, and only turning it on at certain intervals. When your screen is on the data is on. They both are about the same, I prefer JD, but have used SP. It is a legit way to save battery especially if your stock as well as rooted. Now app killers on the other hand...not so much.
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You know with Sense that it has the data off built-in? Go to wireless settings and turn off always on data. When the screen is off after 5 minutes, I think, it cuts the data off till you turn the screen on. In fact, Juice Defender eats up battery for me because it keeps the phone from sleeping a lot of the time.
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placebo effect? hmm i run a pretty good setup kernel is battery charging 132 and i use collin ph battery tweak and life is decent. just heard good things about these programs. I like the idea were mobile data is only on when im using it. makes sense but ud think the stock rom would do that by itself already? can anyone confirm or disprove that?

i have Juice Defender and Superpower installed on my phone and its working great

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i have Juice Defender and Superpower installed on my phone and its working great
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There is no reason to have both apps installed on your phone considering they essentially do the same thing.

Yellowcard8992 said:
Neither, it is a placebo effect. Find the right kernel and change some settings in your phone. These are not needed.
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You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
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actually he's sorta right, some of the time the fact that the battery saving program is open all the time cancels out the battery that the program saves. Best thing to do is flash a solid kernel and colin ph

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Neither, it is a placebo effect. Find the right kernel and change some settings in your phone. These are not needed.
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yea you clearly have NO IDEA what your talking about lol NONE

nilesskate2 said:
he's right, alot of the time the fact that the battery saving program is open all the time cancels out the battery that the program saves. Best thing to do is flash a solid kernel and colin ph
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and you clearly have no idea what your talking about and some phones can't run the script like mine

i bought Juice defender . but it has not been updated for 2.3 yet :/

nilesskate2 said:
actually he's sorta right, some of the time the fact that the battery saving program is open all the time cancels out the battery that the program saves. Best thing to do is flash a solid kernel and colin ph
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Actually, he's sorta wrong. You honestly think that the app uses as much juice as the data connection?

Superpower does no polling at all, all state triggered and has some SetCPU features built in, like seeting to ondemand and max 400mhz.

I've been using juice defender since august when I got my EVO and the battery saving has been exponential. That combined with my 3000mAh extended battery and I get 4 days on 3g.

I have not used either but I hear good things about juice. The only reason I don't run them is I use google messenger so I need my data always on. Juice pretty much cuts down how often your phone polls from the servers (kinda?). Anyways if you don't need constant connectivity I would say go with juice
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JuiceDefender on Nexus

Has anyone tried this out? I just put it on and have not gone through a battery cycle. Trying to see if it will help with battery life.
Running leaked radio on ARHD 2.1.2
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Some people swear by it, but then again some people believe a supernatural being exists because someone said so.

Yeah I've used it since I got the Nexus and it works great. Does what it's supposed to do. I don't believe in supernatural beings though.
Full disclosure; I have had this bug which manifests about once every week where the touch screen becomes completely unresponsive in the lock screen and there is no way to unlock the screen or turn the phone off unless I pull the battery. I have this nagging feeling that it might have something to do with JuiceDefender but I haven't confirmed it.
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I purchased JuiceDefender and also Green Power Premium and never really noticed a big difference in battery life against leaving them off and changing wireless profiles.
Getting almost 2 days out of my Nexus so may give them a go once they both fully support ICS just to test.

Chrono_Tata said:
Yeah I've used it since I got the Nexus and it works great. Does what it's supposed to do. I don't believe in supernatural beings though.
Full disclosure; I have had this bug which manifests about once every week where the touch screen becomes completely unresponsive in the lock screen and there is no way to unlock the screen or turn the phone off unless I pull the battery. I have this nagging feeling that it might have something to do with JuiceDefender but I haven't confirmed it.
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Disable JuiceDefender for a week and see if that bug still exists. If not, problem solved. You can do the same as juice defender by pushing the multitask button and swipping away any apps you don't want.
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JuiceDefender is not only great for a little energy saving, but also for featured like WLAN by localization and display Brightness configuration.
I used it on the S2 and now on the GN.
On Ics it has some little bugs yet, but it also does seem great job here.
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I have the basic version of JuiceDefender running on my GN and I swear its making a noticeable difference in battery life.
I have it set to disable my Data connection whenever the phone is locked. It re-enables it when I unlock it, so it doesn't come on when I'm just checking the time. The effect is immediate too so data is there when you need it.
It also comes on once every 30min just to let apps/email sync briefly.
According to JuiceDefender its improved my battery life by 1.7x. I'd be inclined to say its about right...

Star Shadow said:
Disable JuiceDefender for a week and see if that bug still exists. If not, problem solved. You can do the same as juice defender by pushing the multitask button and swipping away any apps you don't want.
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Lol it does a bit more than that mate. It's the radio function management I need since I'm always too lazy to toggle them manually. I've been meaning to disable it to test if the lock screen bug would go away but I find it hard to use my phone without it now that I've got so used to it. Now that's it's the Christmas holiday though I might give it a go.
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It made a big difference in battery life but it takes way too long for the device to reconnect to the mobile network when i wake it up. Likewise, it will not allow me to get my emails throughout the day unless I wake it up.

Star Shadow said:
Disable JuiceDefender for a week and see if that bug still exists. If not, problem solved. You can do the same as juice defender by pushing the multitask button and swipping away any apps you don't want.
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The multitask button doesn't kill apps - swiping just removes them from the list. Its more like a recent used apps list - like long pressing the home button on Android 2.x use to be - than a multi task manager showing running apps.
As for juice defender, I bought ultimate, and it was just horrible. Very laggy UI, and felt like it was causing more battery usage itself than saving. The comments for 'ultimate' on the market seem to say the same thing. The free version seems much better, although you don't have as many options. There's also another paid version which is cheaper, but I havent tried it.
Put it this way, I uninstalled it Waste of £4.99 which is a ridiculously hefty price for something that cant even get its UI right.

Chrono_Tata said:
Yeah I've used it since I got the Nexus and it works great. Does what it's supposed to do. I don't believe in supernatural beings though.
Full disclosure; I have had this bug which manifests about once every week where the touch screen becomes completely unresponsive in the lock screen and there is no way to unlock the screen or turn the phone off unless I pull the battery. I have this nagging feeling that it might have something to do with JuiceDefender but I haven't confirmed it.
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I can confirm the same behavior on my phone with JD, forcing a battery pull a few times a day. after uninstalling it, I get no more unresponsive screen. I can only conclude that it wasn't playing nice with ics
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I hope Juice Defenders Team will optimize JD for Android ICS, because I loved the program for its features.
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i have this on my GNEX and it is awesome.
yeah some little quirks BUT, definitely prolonging my battery due to wifi/mobile data management.
i'm not experiencing the unresponsive issues and stuff you guys are reporting..
maybe its another app????
i'm getting more than 16hrs on my phone.
as for ultimate. no need for that unless you have a rooted phone.
pro is very good.
i picked up th pro version for $0.99 when it was on sale.

JuiceDefender Ultimate
Hi,
I'm using it on my rooted GN 4.0.1, works well.
By using 3G/WLAN management I come up to 25 - 30 hours lasting battery power.
At home and in my office I told JDU (JuiceDefenderUltimate) to switch to those WLAN's and disable 3G there.
I'vnt tested all the other features like cpuspeedcontroll, or something else.
For me it works perfect.
regards
J.M.

kam187 said:
The multitask button doesn't kill apps - swiping just removes them from the list. Its more like a recent used apps list - like long pressing the home button on Android 2.x use to be - than a multi task manager showing running apps.
As for juice defender, I bought ultimate, and it was just horrible. Very laggy UI, and felt like it was causing more battery usage itself than saving. The comments for 'ultimate' on the market seem to say the same thing. The free version seems much better, although you don't have as many options. There's also another paid version which is cheaper, but I havent tried it.
Put it this way, I uninstalled it Waste of £4.99 which is a ridiculously hefty price for something that cant even get its UI right.
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Steps to prove yourself incorrect:
1) Install OSMonitor
2) Open GMail
3) Go to homescreen and open OSMonitor
4) In the process list, make sure GMail is listed (it should be!).
5) Press the Multitask soft button and swipe away GMail.
6) Check for GMail in OSMonitor and it will have disappeared as it is no longer running.
Magic!
Sorry I'm just on a personal mission to stop this misinformation from being spread.
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On-topic: I've used JuiceDefender Ultimate on all three Nexuses over the years and I certainly think that it makes a big difference by turning wifi off when not in use and turning mobile data off when the screen is off, although I have loads of other settings configured within the app also.

JD Works Great
I have been using JD Ultimate on my Nexus and it works great (I would estimate 1.5 - 2x battery life).
I used the Nexus for a little over a week without JD just to have a set expectations of what my battery life is without JD.
I have not seen any bugs with this up til now.

Chrono_Tata said:
Yeah I've used it since I got the Nexus and it works great. Does what it's supposed to do. I don't believe in supernatural beings though.
Full disclosure; I have had this bug which manifests about once every week where the touch screen becomes completely unresponsive in the lock screen and there is no way to unlock the screen or turn the phone off unless I pull the battery. I have this nagging feeling that it might have something to do with JuiceDefender but I haven't confirmed it.
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I get the same issue and I dont get it when I uninstalled Juice Defender
My phone also reboots randomly and I am wondering if its linked toJuice Defender. The reboots only started recently

I use JD free on my GN, although I haven't seen what battery would be like without JD on it. On my Incredible, JD made the difference between not getting though a single day to getting almost 2 days out of my battery. On my GN with JD I'm still only getting about one full day's worth out of it, sometimes not quite a full day.

I am using Juice Defender Plus and it is set to manage it self then WiFi and 3g network. I am using wifi at home and in the office,and the rest -3g
In my opinion....jd plus does worth the money spent.
14 hours and 20 minutes used - 46% of battery left
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Ice Cream Sandwich seems to do a lot of the things that JuiceDefender did on my old phone. For example, data is automatically turned off when you are connected to WiFi. I had it installed for a while, but when I looked at the list of apps that were using the battery (in the Android settings menu) JuiceDefender was listed as using a fair amount of battery. I'm not sure it is worth the hassle on this phone.

I'm done 84 to 68 from Wifi/Music in 25 minutes

My battery went from 84% to 68% from texting, wifi, and music... (I wasn't even browsing the web....)
My solution... I bought a used ZUNE 30gb (the orig) for $60... I can't afford an iPod right now... money is tight....
I hate this battery... or phone for doing this to me...
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Batteries are insanely cheap on eBay. $20 will get you an external charger and two or three batteries. Worth it. Changes how you use your phone entirely.
And the battery on this phone is still leaps and bounds better than anything before it.

Wifi isn't a juice hog...3G is...wifi will save you battery by keeping you off of 3G. Playing music barely sucks any juice at all unless you are powering huge headphones at max volume, and even that that's not that much juice....and texting uses 2G that is going back-n-forth anyway.
...something else is up.

Took my phone off the charger at 96% and watched a 30min video and after I was down at 85%. I was using 4g too.
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yeah somethings going wrong f,sure.
I Tunein Radio Pro on wifi for 2.5 hours in the morning only using up 15-17%
During that time frame I'm checking incoming emails....usually 10 of them & Tweetcaster is full blast updating.

This phone has the best battery of any android I ever used other than the razr maxxx and I use it a lot
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I had NO 4G or 3G on...
no GPS either... wtf?
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deedscreen said:
I had NO 4G or 3G on...
no GPS either... wtf?
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oh thanks for reminding me lol
I also use PYKL3 radar for a couple min in that 2.5 hr span gps enabled.
wtf is right!
You should be getting much better battery life espeacly on Blazer

Sometimes the actual battery itself is just bad.

I always have issues like this with android phones... it must be user error...
I'm running Google Music, (now known as Google Play Music) ...
could that be eating my battery up???
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Let's not forget that a weak 3G signal will murder a battery....weak 2G as well, though nowhere near as rapidly. Also some apps and widgets are notorious for sucking the battery dry...and there is also leaving background syncing on. For most people this is almost a non-issue, but, for some it is detrimental. Task killers are also bad news.

Did u check for wakelocks with other apps that shouldnt have been running some apps will suck the juice down fast ive found a few games with some dumbass updater crap that ran 24/7 and killed my battery and those damn airpush ads may only send u 1 ad a day but the updater runs constantly looking for an ad to push which is annoying in itself let alone the battery drain
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This might sounds wierd but today i took my phone off charger at 86% and i started to make calls and i notice my battery was going up and it end up going to 91% in 3 hours and barely text and 2 calls i was like wow
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in my case... I use about 300 apps... yes... as crazy as that sounds... I use most of them daily... that's why I switched from the Photon... the Photon's lagging processor couldn't handle it....
I need an auto task killer besides ATK which I hear is very bad news...
why are task killers so bad???
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tech7 said:
This might sounds wierd but today i took my phone off charger at 86% and i started to make calls and i notice my battery was going up and it end up going to 91% in 3 hours and barely text and 2 calls i was like wow
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That's a side-effect and/or another manifestation of the notorious Samsung battery bug. Ever notice how sometimes you reboot your phone and go from 70-90% down to 15-25% instantly? Well, I've noticed that it will also creep it's way back up, even under use....this sounds like that, though, admittedly I've never seen it happen at such a high battery level.

tech7 said:
This might sounds wierd but today i took my phone off charger at 86% and i started to make calls and i notice my battery was going up and it end up going to 91% in 3 hours and barely text and 2 calls i was like wow
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I mean no disprespect... but... I think you or your phone are on crack... what have you been feeding your phone??
That's it!!! I'm calling ADPS --- Android Device Protection Services!!! You will loose your phone if you keep giving your phone drugs... you may also face 10-20 years in prison for such a wicked crime.
lol, but I doubt you're on drugs... but I know that your phone is....
could you have charged it and not realized that you did???
maybe your phone didn't update battery stats properly and fixed itself after you made those calls.
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deedscreen said:
in my case... I use about 300 apps... yes... as crazy as that sounds... I use most of them daily... that's why I switched from the Photon... the Photon's lagging processor couldn't handle it....
I need an auto task killer besides ATK which I hear is very bad news...
why are task killers so bad???
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Android, as of Froyo, revamped it's auto-kill/freeze system to be even more effective. It really does work fine. Just because something was loaded doesn't mean it's consuming memory and/or processor cycles. Seeing that it appears to be 'running' might piss you off, but, just let it go. If you start killing these tasks they will inevitably pop up again...that DOES take processor cycles and memory....so now you've got a task killer actively running, consuming memory and processor cycles to kill programs that weren't really consuming any resources that will probably start back up to see if they have to do anything and that also consumes resources.
that's the dumbed-down version so far as I understand it.
So, on recent versions of Android task killers can not only be unnecessary but also counter productive.

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That's a side-effect and/or another manifestation of the notorious Samsung battery bug. Ever notice how sometimes you reboot your phone and go from 70-90% down to 15-25% instantly? Well, I've noticed that it will also creep it's way back up, even under use....this sounds like that, though, admittedly I've never seen it happen at such a high battery level.
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damn it... I love when phones are on drugs
well, I think you have a point.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Did u check for wakelocks with other apps that shouldnt have been running some apps will suck the juice down fast ive found a few games with some dumbass updater crap that ran 24/7 and killed my battery and those damn airpush ads may only send u 1 ad a day but the updater runs constantly looking for an ad to push which is annoying in itself let alone the battery drain
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I'll try an auto task killer with great reviews besides phone killing ATK.
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daneurysm said:
Android, as of Froyo, revamped it's auto-kill/freeze system to be even more effective. It really does work fine. Just because something was loaded doesn't mean it's consuming memory and/or processor cycles. Seeing that it appears to be 'running' might piss you off, but, just let it go. If you start killing these tasks they will inevitably pop up again...that DOES take processor cycles and memory....so now you've got a task killer actively running, consuming memory and processor cycles to kill programs that weren't really consuming any resources that will probably start back up to see if they have to do anything and that also consumes resources.
that's the dumbed-down version so far as I understand it.
So, on recent versions of Android task killers can not only be unnecessary but also counter productive.
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damn it, you have a valid point
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Easy Battery Saver

Has anyone tried this app yet. Seems to have good reviews.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLG51bGwsImNvbS5lYXN5LmJhdHRlcnkuc2F2ZXIiXQ..
Average rating:
4.6
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Haven't tried it, but it seems like a good alternative to Juice Defender.
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mynewepic10 said:
Has anyone tried this app yet. Seems to have good reviews.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLG51bGwsImNvbS5lYXN5LmJhdHRlcnkuc2F2ZXIiXQ..
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what do you think of it? i tried juice defender a while ago, but it freaking shut off my radio and i missed calls/texts for 2 days!!

eyecon82 said:
what do you think of it? i tried juice defender a while ago, but it freaking shut off my radio and i missed calls/texts for 2 days!!
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I use jd consistently and have never missed a call or text. It doesn't shut off the radio for that unless you change the settings.
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dnathan13 said:
I use jd consistently and have never missed a call or text. It doesn't shut off the radio for that unless you change the settings.
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thanks!
i dont know why battery saving programs like to kill your radio if your signal or battery is low......that's the whole point of having a cell phone!!

None of these "battery saving" apps work. And all the things they do can be done manually. If something has to run in the system to "save" battery... it uses battery attempting to save battery.
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Well i notice that when i dont use JD i lose a good few hours on my battery.
JD does help when i ran W/O it on i went from 100% to 92% in 10 mins all i did was mess with some settings in the menu of the phone not JD.

task manager
I thought that's what the Task manager on the phone is for? I remember when I first got my phone at sprint they told me not to download any battery savers or task killers because they "bump heads" with the stock task manager. If I'm wrong please let me let me know.

g_ding84 said:
I thought that's what the Task manager on the phone is for? I remember when I first got my phone at sprint they told me not to download any battery savers or task killers because they "bump heads" with the stock task manager. If I'm wrong please let me let me know.
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No things have changed reason is they think that if you use the TW Task Manager it will kill thee battery app but if you know how to use either both for example Juice Defender has the option to stay in status bar so it won't be killed if you kill apps on the Task Manager, but why would you kill the app in the 1st place if you knew it saves battery.
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Any results you say you get with these so called battery saving apps. Was because you were too lazy to do it manually. Had you done it manually you would have gotten much better "results."
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I agree, and I am lazy, but I don't get better results doing it manually because I usually forget. My phone is a tool, I have enough important things to remember about rather then whether my wi-fi is on or not.
And if that fails, I always have my extra battery, or desk charger, or car charger etc. . .
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Any results you say you get with these so called battery saving apps. Was because you were too lazy to do it manually. Had you done it manually you would have gotten much better "results."
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socos25 said:
I agree, and I am lazy, but I don't get better results doing it manually because I usually forget. My phone is a tool, I have enough important things to remember about rather then whether my wi-fi is on or not.
And if that fails, I always have my extra battery, or desk charger, or car charger etc. . .
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One of the best things I have done to DRAMATICALLY increase my battery was to change the kernel, ROM and undervolt. I found the best combination for me was to use Shadowkernel v1.04, Legendary ROM and then manually change the voltage settings by about 10% or more.
I used to drain about 10% an hour on standby with wifi but now I'm down to about 1-3%. I drain about 6-10% an hour when I'm using the phone. The only problem I have is when I have a very bad signal, then my battery life goes down over 10% but I think I would have the same problem regardless of whether I modified my phone or not. I don't use any battery saver programs at all now.

doggiedog said:
One of the best things I have done to DRAMATICALLY increase my battery was to change the kernel, ROM and undervolt. I found the best combination for me was to use Shadowkernel v1.04, Legendary ROM and then manually change the voltage settings by about 10% or more.
I used to drain about 10% an hour on standby with wifi but now I'm down to about 1-3%. I drain about 6-10% an hour when I'm using the phone. The only problem I have is when I have a very bad signal, then my battery life goes down over 10% but I think I would have the same problem regardless of whether I modified my phone or not. I don't use any battery saver programs at all now.
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Fyi I have been running The Peoples Rom no changes and I lost 7% last night over 10 hours.
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