Hey all,
I just picked up a G2 and got all excited and dumped Virtuous onto it (I'm very used to Sense).
I soon realized that the battery life of this thing is ridiculously bad. I put CurrentWidget on it (I switched from Android on HD2), and noted that it's draining, on standby, at ~60-80 mA. That's very high; on the Android on HD2, it sometimes is as low as 7-9mA (on average).
I'm not doing anything particularly special, and I've got the same settings on both. It's unlikely it's the reading, as the percentages go down like crazy on the G2 (or get stuck; it often gets stuck at 96% for an hour or two and then goes down very quickly). Quantitatively, it's about 1% per five or ten minutes, while I could get maybe 1% per half hour or 45 minutes on the HD2.
Has anybody done any CurrentWidget tests on their G2? I've searched around, and it seems that not many others are using this test (it's very popular over with the HD2 kids. ). Does anybody have numbers they'd like to share? I'd be very interested in seeing them!
I'll, meanwhile, try the AOSP and stock build again to see how the widget performs on that. I'm very sure this isn't normal, though...
Thanks!
The norm for me is 28-38ma on stand by, you will not be able to get it as low as the HD2. It stays at 100% for about 1 1/2 hours after that it drops and at the 60's slows down again.
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ddgarcia05 said:
The norm for me is 28-38ma on stand by, you will not be able to get it as low as the HD2. It stays at 100% for about 1 1/2 hours after that it drops and at the 60's slows down again.
Do you have any task killers running? Menu, setting, about phone, battery stats, then youll see what app is eating the battery.
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I've posted before and was able to get the phone to last 12 hours on 1%. It drained at such a low mA that it said 0 and 1 often. I will try to get it that low if i can again since i changed to RC4.
Will post screenshots and logs of information on apps running then make a guide about what settings need to be where and what files need to be deleted and added.
ddgarcia05 said:
The norm for me is 28-38ma on stand by, you will not be able to get it as low as the HD2. It stays at 100% for about 1 1/2 hours after that it drops and at the 60's slows down again.
Do you have any task killers running? Menu, setting, about phone, battery stats, then youll see what app is eating the battery.
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That's odd, though. I would've expected otherwise, considering that Android on HD2 requires most things to read/write to SD card, which would supposedly be more power-hungry than writing to NAND...
Nope; I've run tests on almost pure stock builds (just Astro + CurrentWidget + SetCPU installed, but I don't even have SetCPU running...). Happens on both Virtuous and Villain (Sense builds). Thanks for your input!
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I've posted before and was able to get the phone to last 12 hours on 1%. It drained at such a low mA that it said 0 and 1 often. I will try to get it that low if i can again since i changed to RC4.
Will post screenshots and logs of information on apps running then make a guide about what settings need to be where and what files need to be deleted and added.
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That's amazing. Please do post additional information when you have time! I'd be happy to spend some time in the coming weeks to replicate your behavior.
for some reason my g2s battery got better as time progressed.
fresh out the box=needed 2 charges a day
3 weeks later= 7am-10pm still at 36% with HEAVY use.
Shouldn't Standby eat more than the HD2 based on it being 4g? Also I use the GSM/CDMA Auto which has increased my battery life significantly. *#*#4636#*#* phone info. My time without signal was around 9% and is down to 0 since changing it. I am a pretty heavy user and I usually go about 24-30 hours on a single charge. (I'm using the chitech 1800 mah battery though.)
Edit: I'm OC'd to 1497 with 245/245 screen off profile.
urfavoritemazn said:
for some reason my g2s battery got better as time progressed.
fresh out the box=needed 2 charges a day
3 weeks later= 7am-10pm still at 36% with HEAVY use.
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I really want to get that type of battery life! It might have something to do with batterystats.bin being well conditioned. I've tried running to zero and it seems to help a little little bit...
rUsTyRuSs said:
Shouldn't Standby eat more than the HD2 based on it being 4g? Also I use the GSM/CDMA Auto which has increased my battery life significantly. *#*#4636#*#* phone info. My time without signal was around 9% and is down to 0 since changing it. I am a pretty heavy user and I usually go about 24-30 hours on a single charge. (I'm using the chitech 1800 mah battery though.)
Edit: I'm OC'd to 1497 with 245/245 screen off profile.
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That might be true, although I don't have any 4g around in my area. That said, I think HSPA+ is just another bit onto HSDPA, which is what the HD2 has anyway. I don't think it should consume that much more power... (3x fold!). I've tried switching to GSM/CDMA Auto (PRL), but I was using GSM Auto already. We'll see if it helps too!
Thanks guys for your input and feedback; I hope it'll help others, too.
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Argh, it's not "4G", that's just some made-up T-Mobile nonsense about HSPA+ (still an uprated 3G technology).
Lol I feel your pain
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Well everynight before I go to sleep I charge my phone fully and unplug it before I sleep
Usually I would only lose about 1 % or 2% overnight
But this week I would lose over 60% over night! Its outragous!
I looked at what was killing my battery and "Cell Standby" and "Phone idle" were both over 45 - 49% !!
Anyway I can fix this problem??
Thank You
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There may be some random issue with your nearby cell tower, causing the signal to be weaker than normal (particularly 3G). This might cause your phone to be constantly looking for the tower, and killing the battery. I've noticed this to happen at my house, although the difference in battery usage is not as severe as what you describe.
If you haven't changed anything on your phone, I would just leave it be for a few days and see if improve on their own.
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There may be some random issue with your nearby cell tower, causing the signal to be weaker than normal (particularly 3G). This might cause your phone to be constantly looking for the tower, and killing the battery. I've noticed this to happen at my house, although the difference in battery usage is not as severe as what you describe.
If you haven't changed anything on your phone, I would just leave it be for a few days and see if improve on their own.
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I Havent changed anything at all
ok but if things dont get better ill have to flash a new radio to fix it
Okay well my phone's battery is still pretty bad so
Does anybody know what Radio is known to save battery?
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Okay well my phone's battery is still pretty bad so
Does anybody know what Radio is known to save battery?
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As redpoint73 said .its probably because of weak 3g signals ,set your phone to "2g only"
overnight and see if it make any different. i dont think different radio will help ,different kernel might do .
bahmanxda said:
As redpoint73 said .its probably because of weak 3g signals ,set your phone to "2g only"
overnight and see if it make any different. i dont think different radio will help ,different kernel might do .
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My phone has always been on 2G and it still kills my battery pretty quick
I have everything turned off at night and still battery dies very quick
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Your not alone ferocious. I have the same issue its driving me nuts. Mine's skyrockets to damn near 50 percent. I'm living in california. But running sense seems to fix it for some reason.
Shaquiel Harris said:
Your not alone ferocious. I have the same issue its driving me nuts. Mine's skyrockets to damn near 50 percent. I'm living in california. But running sense seems to fix it for some reason.
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Yeah its really killing my battery overnight!
Im Also in California
as of right now here is what is killing my battery
Cell Standby- 47%
Phone Idle- 44%
Voice Calls- 8%
Display 3%
Im Running GingerVillain 1.5 with Stock Radio
Its overclocked to 1.2ghz and has profiles with SetCPU
Wifi Only on When im using the phone
gps is off
Screen brightness is very low
only using 2G
this is very frustrating
Turn off data completely and see if it still drains. If that stops the drain, change your radio.
Remember you must be radio s-off to do that. Root with gfree (you'll need the cm 6.1.0 kernel or stock).
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Okay well my phone's battery is still pretty bad so
Does anybody know what Radio is known to save battery?
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There's no good answer to that. What radio is the "best" varies by geographic location. The best way to find out is by trial and error, although the newest radio tends to be the best place to start. Some people seem to be having some decent luck with the latest AUS radio. But like I said, its all just trial and error. I remember on my last phone (Touch Pro 2) people sometimes reported better battery life and reception by flashing older radios.
EDIT: I just noticed this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=990860
Some people claim EXCESSIVE battery drain using the newest AUS radio, while others do not. So it still goes back to my statement that trial and error is your best bet.
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Turn off data completely and see if it still drains. If that stops the drain, change your radio.
Remember you must be radio s-off to do that. Root with gfree (you'll need the cm 6.1.0 kernel or stock).
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Okay I just turned off all my data and I will report back with the results
I'm already rooted
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XxFerociouS said:
Yeah its really killing my battery overnight!
Im Also in California
as of right now here is what is killing my battery
Cell Standby- 47%
Phone Idle- 44%
Voice Calls- 8%
Display 3%
Im Running GingerVillain 1.5 with Stock Radio
Its overclocked to 1.2ghz and has profiles with SetCPU
Wifi Only on When im using the phone
gps is off
Screen brightness is very low
only using 2G
this is very frustrating
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Im running on GingerVillain 1.5 with stock radio as well
I don't use the profiles on setcpu, they're confusing and annoying. I don't even keep it overclocked much, only when I use my phone alot. When my phone is idle I set it back down to 806, sometimes even 700.
Wifi is on all the time when I am at home
GPS = on for me (at home)
screen brightness is like 40%
I keep 4g on all the time as well
At night, I keep my phone unplugged at 100% than the next day its at 99%
Ill use it for maybe 20 minutes and its at 90%. After about an hour and a half it goes to like 75% than ill put it back on standby for maybe an hour than its at like 73%
To sum it up, if its in standby, its fine
If im using it from 100% to 0% it lasts a good 3-5 hours depending on if im streaming vids, listening to music, and browsing the internet.
Im testing the waters with different settings and roms as of now..
GingerVillain is my favorite so far.
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Im running on GingerVillain 1.5 with stock radio as well
I don't use the profiles on setcpu, they're confusing and annoying. I don't even keep it overclocked much, only when I use my phone alot. When my phone is idle I set it back down to 806, sometimes even 700.
Wifi is on all the time when I am at home
GPS = on for me (at home)
screen brightness is like 40%
I keep 4g on all the time as well
At night, I keep my phone unplugged at 100% than the next day its at 99%
Ill use it for maybe 20 minutes and its at 90%. After about an hour and a half it goes to like 75% than ill put it back on standby for maybe an hour than its at like 73%
To sum it up, if its in standby, its fine
If im using it from 100% to 0% it lasts a good 3-5 hours depending on if im streaming vids, listening to music, and browsing the internet.
Im testing the waters with different settings and roms as of now..
GingerVillain is my favorite so far.
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Yeah gingervillain is also my favorite rom
I have no idea why when my phone is on standby the battery dies pretty quick
It has pretty good life when I use it but when I don't the battery seems to die pretty quick
And my phone tells me that cell standby is always using aroun 40% of my battery and I just can't find a way to lower it
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funkeee said:
Turn off data completely and see if it still drains. If that stops the drain, change your radio.
Remember you must be radio s-off to do that. Root with gfree (you'll need the cm 6.1.0 kernel or stock).
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Okay I turned off all data but it didn't seem to do anything at all to my phone
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My friend has a Desire and he isnt pleased with the battery life at all.
I told him to root and install a custom ROM and it will help, as it did with me (Motorola Milestone).
Do the custom ROMS for the desire have better battery life? How many hours can you get out of it?
He hardly gets a day and doesnt even use much data, mostly texts, maybe short calls, and just brief stints of data
i use oxygen 2.0.2 and had the same usage as your friend, more or less.
my battery stands for almost 20 hours.
do check the auto-sync options and 2G-3G network setting.
turn-off the GPS, WiFi bluetooth if it isnt used.
and maybe your friend could install Juice Defender from market to conserve battery.
hope that helps
I second the vote for Oxygen. I heavily use data for Twitter, Facebook, four email accounts and several short browsing sessions daily. I also make a handful of calls (often with Bluetooth) and SMS a lot. I jump on and off MSN with imo.im beta (my current multi-protocol IM client at the moment) and get almost 20 hours a day. I've always had battery life problems in the past.
Your friend won't regret it.
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Another vote for oxygen. Phone out of the box for me I only get about 24 hours. On oxygen 2.0 with moderate use - wifi always on, browsing forums and email, calls, no widgets except for weather and date, I got 2 days 9 hours! That's also with setcpu and rokee mod (check oxygen forum). Very happy so far and don't think I will be upgrading anytime soon unless I can get better battery life.
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I am using the RCMIXHD and for now I haven't seen a huge improvement ... but I keep everything on and still have to tweak around .
AuraxTSense v8.4
Standby Time 8day's.
With checking time/date and mail from time to time.
Google latititude enabled and face book enabled.
Allmost no wifi involved btw.
So with oxygen, since he doesnt leave wifi or data on all the time, and only sparingly uses it, I assume he would get a lot more than 20 hours of use?
wow the auraxtsense sounds good
Wond3r said:
So with oxygen, since he doesnt leave wifi or data on all the time, and only sparingly uses it, I assume he would get a lot more than 20 hours of use?
wow the auraxtsense sounds good
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I would agree with the people suggesting oxygen, although i haven't tried the most recent one I have tried other AOSP ROMs (Such as Cyanogenmod and Redux) but you do however sacrifice the incredible camera for a terrible AOSP one, so I personally like to use Sense ROMs for that reason. There are some Kernels that can improve the cpu usage-thus improving battery life when using HTC sense based roms. I would either recommend either LeeDroid or AuraxTsense (the one i currently use) and with heavy use i can easily get a working day from it (from 9am to 5pm) and it'll only JUST reach the 20% mark for me which is fine
Using the Redux 1.1.0 rom with newest radio (32.54) and coutts99 2.6.38 CFS HAVS kernel. Battery life has never been better, 2 days since recharge, couple of games of Worms and 3d table tennis, some emails, browsing for maybe one hour, listened to a Brian Eno CD and maybe 15 minutes of talking on the phone. 56% left!
I was positively shocked. I reckon the largest cause for this was the new radio and kernel, Wi-Fi reception seems to be a bit weaker TBH than with 32.49 but this battery life is definetely worth it.
I was having severe battery issues with my desire - looked at logs via currentwidget etc - found I'm use around 55ma on standby !!
Long story short and after lots of research I found I was a victim of the usb brick bug... anyway, unbricked and now my use is around 4 to 6 ma standby on CM7 RC4..
I'm running Cyanogen since the Release Candidate 1 with the latest RADIO and this kernel: http://mirror.couttstech.com/android/index.php?dir=bravo/kernel/aosp-2.6.38/CFS/ (CFS, HAVS, Ginger).
I only use 3G when idle and WiFi for downloading updates.
Sync is on
Bluetooth and GPS are off.
Underclocked to 800 MHz when active, Max 256 when idle. Min-Frequency set to 128 MHz.
Undervolted by 50-100 mV.
I'm listening about 30 minutes/day to online radio (via 3G)
Trillian is enabled in background (ICQ,MSN,AIM,GoogleTalk)
With this, my desire loses around 40-50% in 14 hours (around 3% hour). Most battery hog is the online radio (drains 15%).
If I do not listen to online radio and if I disable Trillian but keeping everything else enabled, the drain is around 1%/hour (tested over night).
For me this is the best I could get and I'm fine with it (Also: My battery only has 85% of original capacity left).
vote for Oxygen2 or CM7. Try this Kernel too. Sync only every 3h-6h (FB/Twitter/Weather/...)
In my case Oxygen 2.0.2 is draining approximately 1% of battery every 4 hours on standby with wifi on. Kinda hard to beat that I guess.
I am using InsertCoin 2.0.1 Data2Ext
My Settings:
-Syncs: FB 6hr, Push e-mail for yahoo and googlemail, News 4 hrs, weather 3 hrs, and htc sense based on change.
-2G/3G set to auto
-CPU freq: 384-1075MHz with interactive...yes I am OCing a bit.
-Night in the City live wallpaper.
-WiFi always on at home.
-(not really a setting) GSM signal strength is somehow always full at home.
-advance task killer every 1 hr.
I have tested the battery life at home and it resulted with those settings above about 25% reduction in 12-14Hrs on standby.
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-advance task killer every 1 hr.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-view-on-task-managers-for-android/
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-view-on-task-managers-for-android/
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I know that one.
I have tried not to use any task killer but the battery usage is somehow better with task killer running.
On the other hand, if I set the task killer faster than 1 hr, the battery life is drained drastically.
Longer than 1 hr will not give me any effect on battery life.
I also know those are only based on subjective judgement.
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oh i was going to post something like this.
Using Stock 2.2 Rom.
I've found i actually get better usage with WIFI always on rather than OFF and switching between 3G to WiFi and then tun it off.
so switch phone on at 7am @ 100%, switch off at 11:30pm and im around 85% usage.
dzam72 said:
I was having severe battery issues with my desire - looked at logs via currentwidget etc - found I'm use around 55ma on standby !!
Long story short and after lots of research I found I was a victim of the usb brick bug... anyway, unbricked and now my use is around 4 to 6 ma standby on CM7 RC4..
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I think I might have this problem as well, been doing a search, but not sure where to look, did you follow the procedures for usb brick, or are you talking about something else. I downloaded the current app and it shows 44amp all the time, any info on where to look for a cure is appreciated.
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I think I might have this problem as well, been doing a search, but not sure where to look, did you follow the procedures for usb brick, or are you talking about something else. I downloaded the current app and it shows 44amp all the time, any info on where to look for a cure is appreciated.
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Yeah - followed procedures for USB brick and worked fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691187
Having a little trouble with usb brick procedure, I think my cache was corrupted, so I unrooted and thought I would start again. So far unrooted, replaced original battery back in taking out 3000 mah one, and funny the amps go down, when gone into idle, but they do shoot up to 130 something or more when doing things. Then I replaced it with the 3000 amp one, and it still stays at 44mah, so I think it is the battery, it won't go down in amps for some reason, well atleast I have a backup battery incase.
At first my girlfriend had her Nexus S updated to ics and immediately we noticed a huge difference in how long her battery lasted and she is the furthest thing from a heavy user.
So when I heard that ics ws being released for our phone my first thought was i hope that what she experienced won't be what i do as we have a better phone right?
Well I am sad to say on a stock but rooted rom I experience the same lack of battery life as her.
Now I am no beginner to Android and have changed all sorts of settings available and nothing syncs on its own and when I unplug my phone from charging in the morning I will need to plug my phone in at night before bed as my phone will be completely dead.
I have to say I am very disappointed in the battery life of thr the stock rom and hope some good kernels make it out to help.
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Have you tried to find out which app/process is draining your battery? Better Battery Stats can help you identify what is using up your battery.
I had a big keep awake problem when i first installed stock ICS on my T989D. I did a full wipe of the phone and formatted my internal SD card (after backing things up of course), reinstall the same stock ICS and everything works great now. Battery life is about the same as before (stock GB w/ Synergy kernel), which is about 30 hours with moderate use.
Try CM 9. I get almost 2 days of battery life.
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I've never had better battery life personally.
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Though I am now on AOKP, I had great battery life on stock ICS as well. But, everything is subjective. How many email accounts are being synced? Do you have Facebook / Twitter / G+ updating every hour? Do you have news feeds continuously updating as well?
I have to agree with the poster above. Get Better Battery Stats and find the culprit draining your battery and work from there.
biggest thing draining the battery is the screen.
you can literally watch the battery usage drop 10-15% in a period of 10 to 15 minutes which is absurd when its set to low.
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Wait for kernel development. Its underway as we speak. It will make a significant difference.
Some battery saving tips:
- use juicedefender and set it to aggressive mode.
- use romtoolbox or other programs to underclock cpu frequency.
- also try using telus stock ics. Very good battery life.
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I have a brand new T989D (I'm new to Android, former iPhone user) and got the ICS upgrade the day I got it (9 days ago). Battery life is terrible, I'm lucky if I get 10 hours of moderate usage. The phone also tends to run very, very hot. Sometimes apps freeze and all I can do is either wait or, in some cases, remove the battery to reboot.
I'm open to any tips that will get this fixed! I haven't rooted yet (no time). I think I will try those wipe tools and reflash the stock ICS ROM.
First post btw - glad to have joined XDA!
Rooting takes 5 seconds. Follow the sticky. Use odin.
Run a custom rom.
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Rooting takes 5 seconds. Follow the sticky. Use odin.
Run a custom rom.
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Thanks, although a lot of howtos seem to be for GB since ICS only landed 9 days ago. Also there's a lot of conflicting information, so I prefer this one:
http : // galaxys2root.com/t-mobile-galaxy-s2/how-to-root-icsgb-on-t-mobile-galaxy-s2-sgh-t989/
Aaaannnd... rooted! \o/
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Wait for kernel development. Its underway as we speak. It will make a significant difference.
Some battery saving tips:
- use juicedefender and set it to aggressive mode.
- use romtoolbox or other programs to underclock cpu frequency.
- also try using telus stock ics. Very good battery life.
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phone is a telus phone so its already using that rom.
setcpu us setup already but thinking perhaps to undervolt
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Stock, not rooted, my battery life is great. Something is using your battery up, and flashing some exotic kernel isn't going to change that. The stock kernel works fine. You'll want to find the root of the problem. Keep a real-time (or 1-5s interval anyway) eye on the phone's current (mA) usage, and when it's high for no apparent reason, you'll know that whatever is sucking your battery is doing it right then. That should help you characterize the problem. I've noticed when my WCDMA/GSM radio signal sucks, so does the battery life, so I either turn off the radio or switch to GSM only when I'm in that area. If your display is what's eating your battery, well a kernel can't stop that. Turn the brightness down, leave it on auto-brightness, or just deal with it if you need the display on all the time. But if tweaking and modding makes you happy, by all means...
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biggest thing draining the battery is the screen.
you can literally watch the battery usage drop 10-15% in a period of 10 to 15 minutes which is absurd when its set to low.
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I have the same complaint. The "screen" battery usage is just unacceptable, especially compared to GB. My phone has been draining from a full charge for ~4.5 hours and my screen usage is 70% and battery is down to 65% with hardly 10 minutes of screen-on time.
I use an app called autostarts and you basically enable/disable apps that start running when certain events happen (phone startup, wifi being turned on, incoming call/sms/mms, other apps turning on, etc.). Just make sure you do your homework so you dont disable something critical. Hopefully this app works on ICS. You'll be surprised what different events make certain apps turn on automaticly. Screen, data/wifi, gps and bluetooth are the biggest battery drainers. No matter what Rom you are on if you don't keep control of those items your battery will drain fast. Keep ur screen on auto, let it go off @ 15 seconds ( you have to be pretty used to your phone for that setting not to annoy you), turn OFF your data or wifi when not in use. With bluetooth and gps...well u know that when you use them your battery is gonna drain faster than normal...just keep that in mind. Its all pretty much common sense.
I'm not going to tell you how much battery time I get cuz its nonsense. There are times my phone lasts till the next day and others Im charging it by sundown. Then again Im still on Juggs n Darkside kernel and Im gonna wait a bit still b4 I make the switch. Also don't go by what other people say on battery life cuz if you might not get the same results on that ROM. Everyone of our devices is unique and acts different. Everyone user uses their phone different. You can't define "light, moderate, heavy" use so don't go by that either.
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Duel core vs single core
Larger brighter screen
Processor is clocked higher
Radio is connected to hspa+ network
Tw vs Samsung.
These things make a difference
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After upgrading to ICS stock unrooted battery life sucked (5-6hrs). I did the whole remove battery, factory reset and still sucked.
Broke down rooted (still stock), downloaded batterycalibration from play, followed the instructions. Easily get over 24hrs before having to charge again. and when I say easily, I mean I still have over 25% left.
Get a gnex extended....maybe a bad battery
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AOKP build 40, latest eugene373 streamline kernel. I went 9 hours earlier it earlier and it was still at 70% You will see a difference!!
Sent from AOKP Goodness :-D
mrrobc97 said:
Im not going to tell you how much battery time I get cuz its nonsense. .........Everyone user uses their phone different. You can't define "light, moderate, heavy" use so don't go by that either.
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Bingo. Vastly different battery life between ROM's is generally BS. Every once in a great while one of these threads has merit but typically someone saying ROM X had "Killer" battery life is clueless and drinking the koolaid. Then a placebo effect takes place. And definitely someones "Heavy" use is subjective. If someone says they get a day out of an android phone they are not heavy users by my definition. It doesn't happen with heavy use. Perhaps the Razr Maxx or another phone with a very large battery but I've had 5 Android phones. If I get past noon it's because I am not using my phone that much and forget about a full day. It's never happened in the 4 years I've used google OS phones. Never.
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Bingo. Vastly different battery life between ROM's is generally BS. Every once in a great while one of these threads has merit but typically someone saying ROM X had "Killer" battery life is clueless and drinking the koolaid. Then a placebo effect takes place. And definitely someones "Heavy" use is subjective. If someone says they get a day out of an android phone they are not heavy users by my definition. It doesn't happen with heavy use. Perhaps the Razr Maxx or another phone with a very large battery but I've had 5 Android phones. If I get past noon it's because I am not using my phone that much and forget about a full day. It's never happened in the 4 years I've used google OS phones. Never.
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Yes exactly, I hate when people post screenshots of their phone getting 24+ hours, I'm there thinking "well obviously they don't use their phone alot". There is no way in hell i could get 24 hours no matter what rom/kernal I use. Im just happy when my phone can make it till I get home at night
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I recently bought a used nitro hd and unlocked it for use on t-mobile. I lose about 4% battery life per hour while in standby. bluetooth, gps, wifi are all off. cell radio is the only thing on. phonearena reports a 259 hour standby life, and at this rate I will get about 25 hours of standby time. and perish forbid I use the phone, when I can literally watch the battery percentage drop before my eyes. I lose about 1% every 2-3 minutes when using it. I have tried v20c and CM10 stable.
does this sound like a problem that can be dealt with somehow, or am I looking at a new battery? thanks.
reebokhcfr said:
I recently bought a used nitro hd and unlocked it for use on t-mobile. I lose about 4% battery life per hour while in standby. bluetooth, gps, wifi are all off. cell radio is the only thing on. phonearena reports a 259 hour standby life, and at this rate I will get about 25 hours of standby time. and perish forbid I use the phone, when I can literally watch the battery percentage drop before my eyes. I lose about 1% every 2-3 minutes when using it. I have tried v20c and CM10 stable.
does this sound like a problem that can be dealt with somehow, or am I looking at a new battery? thanks.
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Habe you tried disabling LTE? It may be because your phone is constantly searching for an LTE signal that it's wasting so much battery.
CM10 and V20c are not particularly great with battery life. You might try CM9 if you want to see if it makes a difference.
thank drumist. I forgot to mention I also downclocked the processor to 1ghz with cm10 with not much noticeable effect. in cm10, under preferred network mode, gsm/wwcdma preferred is checked. lte is not.I also lost a full 1% just checking that.
reebokhcfr said:
thank drumist. I forgot to mention I also downclocked the processor to 1ghz with cm10 with not much noticeable effect. in cm10, under preferred network mode, gsm/wwcdma preferred is checked. lte is not.I also lost a full 1% just checking that.
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While in that same screen you selected gsm/wcdma, if you go to Access Point Names and switch it from ATT LTE to ATT you might see some improvement. Also, HO!NO!s Full Throttle seems to be quite good on battery life. It's CM9 based and it's pretty snappy. I've got it overclocked to 1728mhz and have been playing with mine almost constantly for about 5 hours so far today and I'm at 66% left.
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While in that same screen you selected gsm/wcdma, if you go to Access Point Names and switch it from ATT LTE to ATT you might see some improvement. Also, HO!NO!s Full Throttle seems to be quite good on battery life. It's CM9 based and it's pretty snappy. I've got it overclocked to 1728mhz and have been playing with mine almost constantly for about 5 hours so far today and I'm at 66% left.
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You went back form pA 2.5x, eh? I'm currently running 1d 6hrs with 2hrs+ screen on time and at 14% bat life on FT.
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You went back form pA 2.5x, eh? I'm currently running 1d 6hrs with 2hrs+ screen on time and at 14% bat life on FT.
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That's why I've been playing with it so long today lol. After reading what you said the other day I had to give it another try. I do miss phablet mode though! What all have you done to it to get such ridiculous stats?
Also, I do tend to ROM hop a pretty good bit. I've tried every ROM in the Dev section except Liquid Nitro; PA just seems to be my fallback.
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That's why I've been playing with it so long today lol. After reading what you said the other day I had to give it another try. I do miss phablet mode though! What all have you done to it to get such ridiculous stats?
Also, I do tend to ROM hop a pretty good bit. I've tried every ROM in the Dev section except Liquid Nitro; PA just seems to be my fallback.
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Left the OC at 1728. Left the GPU OC as is. I under volted -75 from 192mhz to 1026, then -50 up to 1512 and -25 above that. I leave sync off. Only have wifi on constantly when plugged in. I freeze Google Maps until I need it (constantly runs). Diplay-automatic backlight enabled-sample intervel 5s. Performance-memory management-allow purging of assets checked. And follow this guide for calibration: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1616598 ... I think that's about it. Oh, I also let it settle in for a few days before judging life of the battery.
EDIT: I also ROM hop often. Liquid Nitro is the only one I haven't tried, too. I love pA JB but the battery life drives me nuts (have a backup though). I'm lucky to get 8hrs out of a charge. I can't wait for thomas.raines to finish is LZ JB kernel. That's gonna improve things quite a bit.
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Left the OC at 1728. Left the GPU OC as is. I under volted -75 from 192mhz to 1026, then -50 up to 1512 and -25 above that. I leave sync off. Only have wifi on constantly when plugged in. I freeze Google Maps until I need it (constantly runs). Diplay-automatic backlight enabled-sample intervel 5s. Performance-memory management-allow purging of assets checked. And follow this guide for calibration: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1616598 ... I think that's about it. Oh, I also let it settle in for a few days before judging life of the battery.
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Where do you set the uv settings? I swear I've read the entire FT thread but I must have missed it.
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Where do you set the uv settings? I swear I've read the entire FT thread but I must have missed it.
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/ect/init.d/99ocvoltcontrol
/ect/init.d/99GPUoverclock if you wanna oc the GPU more which I've done but caused overheating.
thanks for the responses. I am trying FT and it seems better, but I lost 50% of battery with the phone off between yesterday and today. 50% with it off! what the heck?
reebokhcfr said:
thanks for the responses. I am trying FT and it seems better, but I lost 50% of battery with the phone off between yesterday and today. 50% with it off! what the heck?
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1616598
First off, I would like to say that I have searched several times for this answer to no avail.
I just came from a Maxx HD (XT926) which obviously had phenomenal battery life. So I'm not terribly surprised by the reduced battery life moving to the One. However, I'm currently only getting about 8 hours off of the charger with 2.5 hours screen time. Via GSam, there do not appear to be any terrible wake locks or rampant apps running in the background. I typically observe a wake time of +/- 10 minutes from my screen on time.
My typical usage right now is some heavy texting, light Facebook browsing, a GroupMe thread, and that's about it.
System settings are generally screen brightness on one bar (from the notification pull down, not sure what the actual percentage is), wifi/bluetooth/gps OFF, NFC and mobile data on all the time.
I have disabled the location via wifi options, so that's not currently a factor either.
What is the typical off charger and screen time for you folks? I love the phone, but a bit frustrated with the ~10% per hour battery drain at idle...
Thanks in advance for any input!
unrooted this seems to be the norm. there's a slew of VZW bloat apps that will check to see if you are using them once an a while, also blink feed refreshing often will have this impact.
right now on rooted Ecliptic rom i can get about 12 hours up time with 3.5 hours screen and still have 45% battery left. This is mainly on 4g some WiFi. this a 4.4 rom and has the options to turn things off the stock system cant like blinkfeed.
-wait till the offical comes out ( rummored to be at the end of this month) it should help-
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unrooted this seems to be the norm. there's a slew of VZW bloat apps that will check to see if you are using them once an a while, also blink feed refreshing often will have this impact.
right now on rooted Ecliptic rom i can get about 12 hours up time with 3.5 hours screen and still have 45% battery left. This is mainly on 4g some WiFi. this a 4.4 rom and has the options to turn things off the stock system cant like blinkfeed.
-wait till the offical comes out ( rummored to be at the end of this month) it should help-
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Thanks, Synisterwolf.
That definitely helps put to bed some of the concerns I was having.
I'm definitely not opposed to rooting, but if I remember correctly, build 2.10.605.1 doesn't yet have an exploit, correct?
Again, thanks for the input.
That seems low to me, even for stock. Granted I debloated even when I was running stock, since I was rooted. I was getting closer to 3.75 hours of screen time for that amount of time off charger. But like I said, I was debloated.
Edit: I also don't use NFC, so that was off too. Not sure how much NFC affects the battery, as I've never really used it on any phone I've had.
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That seems low to me, even for stock. Granted I debloated even when I was running stock, since I was rooted. I was getting closer to 3.75 hours of screen time for that amount of time off charger. But like I said, I was debloated.
Edit: I also don't use NFC, so that was off too. Not sure how much NFC affects the battery, as I've never really used it on any phone I've had.
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there are a lot of things that can make the battery not last. i know the bloat the try to see ya is one of them
@ op no exploit as of yet. but on 4.4 you can go settngs > apps > all apps and click the ones you want to disable. its almost like uninstalling them for the non rooted devices.
I think there's a disable option option in 4.3 as well, so I'll give that a try.
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Completely stock, bloatware disabled. 2.5 hours screen on 14 hours heavy use.
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Ouch... I'm way off then.
Has anyone compiled a list of safely disabled bloatware for these? Or is it kind of trial and error?
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Stock won't let you disable anything that can cause issues, as far as I know.
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Awesome. Now hopefully there's less chance for me to bork my phone.
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With the help of Green Power Premium, my phone lasts 14 hours with moderate use and 8 hours with constant/heavy use. I don't use NFC or Bluetooth and turn off gps when I'm not using Google Maps. Honestly this phone is a god send coming from an Incredible 4G LTE
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You can range between 8 and 16 unrooted stock. Depends on the use age and what you use. I do know with viper ROM and elemental x kernel its has superior deep sleep and hardly uses the battery at all. To give you an example of stock and other ROMs/ kernels I use to get about 14 while at work and finish with about 14% battery life at the end of my 12 hr shift. With my current setup I can go the 14 hr run and have between 75 to 65 percent battery life left and this is with sync active for mail Facebook and so on. So that's just an example of stock vs rooted.
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You can range between 8 and 16 unrooted stock. Depends on the use age and what you use. I do know with viper ROM and elemental x kernel its has superior deep sleep and hardly uses the battery at all. To give you an example of stock and other ROMs/ kernels I use to get about 14 while at work and finish with about 14% battery life at the end of my 12 hr shift. With my current setup I can go the 14 hr run and have between 75 to 65 percent battery life left and this is with sync active for mail Facebook and so on. So that's just an example of stock vs rooted.
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With moderate use I drain about 40-50% of the battery throughout a 15 hour day. I'm running a battery saving script though which disables 2 minutes after screen off for cellular and 7 for wifi with interval updates. I also disabled a bunch of permissions for apps that I know I'll never need but for apps I frequent. On average I use my GPS for about 20-30 minutes of the day playing Ingress.
If I'm at work I only lose about 35% battery throughout the entire day. I only send/receive a total of about 100 text a day, and don't game other than Ingress. Very light Facebook use, browsing, and such.
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Those usage times are pretty good for stock. I would be happy with anything over 12 hours right now.
I did notice bit better battery life after freezing/disabling some of the stock bloatware, but now I'm trying out an old fallback: JuiceDefender.
So far, it seems to be helping substantially (although it obviously only helps during idle times as it shuts off mobile data until the screen is on/unlocked), but I'll wait until I've had a full cycle before passing any final judgement.
run this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
for 2 days and it will start controlling things in the background based off of how you use your phone. It will manage gps, wifi, data and not allow apps that you don't use regularly run in the background.
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run this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
for 2 days and it will start controlling things in the background based off of how you use your phone. It will manage gps, wifi, data and not allow apps that you don't use regularly run in the background.
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I had heard of this app, never installed it till now though. Would you suggest ditching the JuiceDefender app, or leave it running in conjunction with Battery Guru?
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I had heard of this app, never installed it till now though. Would you suggest ditching the JuiceDefender app, or leave it running in conjunction with Battery Guru?
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I would try just that and see if it helps. It just monitors your usage for the first 48 hours so if you are running other battery savers it might not work as well.
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I'm totally stock and I regularly get 30 or more hours of battery. And I don't just keep my phone on the desk all day. I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time. 10% drain when not using your phone seems like an awful lot.
I have everything off that I don't need or use. That's pretty much it. I'm also on WiFi pretty much all the time too at home and at work. Don't know if that has anything to do with it
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Yeah, WiFi doesn't kill the battery nearly as much as the CDMA/LTE radio does. Unfortunately, I have both poor signal, AND lack of WiFi at work. Haha. Oh well.
30/3.5 would be fantastic. I'm jealous.
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So question, where are you finding these screen on numbers? I looked under battery and the usage part shows apps but not screen on. The graph shows when the screen is on at what point during the day but no durations are given.