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I received mine in the mail yesterday and wanted to give my mini review.

I received mine in the mail yesterday and wanted to give my mini review.
I currently have or had:
G1
G2
G2x
Sensation
Hercules
The reason I mention this is because this phone is not much nicer then the G2, G2x or the sensation but this phone is still solid.
I paid the outright price and coming from these phones I just cant see the difference for me to spend $560. This is just based on the feature and feel of the phone vs what I already own. If you were coming from a old phone by all means this is slightly better then the rest I mentioned but not $560 better.
Pros:
No pentile
No screen door effect (spaced pixels)
No Yellow Tint
No over colored greens and oranges
Fast web browser alive, I mean WOW! Flash sites run very well
NFC
Decent processor
Fastest download speed from Tmobile device yet
Very light
Nice feel in hand
Cons:
Defective screen (I had the pixelated, washed out /brushed steel stripes) the artifacts stay in the same place and is noticeable when I pull down the notification bar.
DPI is way to HIGH for such a resolution - Not bad but should be a option
Stutters 10% of the time
Car audio does not have the Voodoo punch from stock, not sure about later development or if a compatible chip is in there.
This phone did not blow me away but will offer it to my girlfriend over the sensation for the only reason being the GPS is terrible int he sensation and we use the navigation a lot and wanted to smash the sensation many times.
This phone is very close to being sent back but even if keeping this is being exchanged for a different screen.
Does any that bought from Tmobile have a perfect/good screen? If so please post pics.

1wayjonny said:
Does any that bought from Tmobile have a perfect/good screen? If so please post pics.
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I have a good screen but have no way to post a pic at work Maybe when I get home tonight

1wayjonny said:
Cons:
Defective screen (I had the pixelated, washed out /brushed steel stripes) the artifacts stay in the same place and is noticeable when I pull down the notification bar.
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This seems to be a pretty common, but then again we typically only hear from people who have this issue. I'm planning on heading back to the T-mobile store and compare my unit to their display models. Hopefully there will be a difference and convince an exchange.

dksxmks said:
This seems to be a pretty common, but then again we typically only hear from people who have this issue. I'm planning on heading back to the T-mobile store and compare my unit to their display models. Hopefully there will be a difference and convince an exchange.
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Do you think it's a qc issue? Or is it a hardware (LCD or another issue that they all will have?) flaw?
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jburnette87 said:
Do you think it's a qc issue? Or is it a hardware (LCD or another issue that they all will have?) flaw?
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This is my first Super AMOLED device so I'm not sure what to expect. I came from MyTouch4G before this and an SE x10i before that, and both fo them had LCD's iirc.
My friend has a Sprint GS2 and I got to compare them side by side. I noticed it's much less apparent on the Sprint one (Had to get up really close and carefully stare at it) so you almost cant tell, and when the brightness is up to about 30% it's just gone completely.
I tried to show him the lines I was talking about but he couldn't see them at all, and ended up calling me insane. So it's also the eye of the beholder.. so to speak. I don't have much evidence to go on other than what I'm seeing, and am fairly convinced it's hardware issue. I remember the MT4G had 2 different batch of screens where the viewing angles and vibrance was substantially different. This might be the same case, though I would expect more from "Super AMOLED Plus".

jburnette87 said:
Do you think it's a qc issue? Or is it a hardware (LCD or another issue that they all will have?) flaw?
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Based on the pictures someone posted, I find it unnerving that it's only one the right side of the screen.
It's almost as though it's hardware related in the sense that it has something to do with whatever is right beneath that part of the screen. Could it be heat related? The CPU being there? etc.
I don't remember seeing this on European GS2 when I played with it.
This is why even if the prime wasn't coming, I'd be hesitant to pick up the GS2 as the screen itself is a new line of manufacturing....and I'd rather let the first adopters deal with the imperfections while they work the kinks out in their manufacturing process.

I'm on my second SGS2 in two days. The first one was bad. Very bad. Defective screen: grey stripes, washed out colors. Extreme stuttering. Ok. Recieved my second one 3 hours ago. Great screen. Practically no stuttering.... until the first hard reboot. Bam! As bad as the first one except the screen. Laggy, choppy. Impossible to enjoy. Wtf????
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I've noticed stuttering with the screen animations on. Once I turned them off, no problems. I've got the grey stripes, as well. If I keep my brightness around 50%, more or less, I don't really notice them. Debating on whether an exchange is in order.
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Even The Almighty Launcher Pro really sucks on this phone. I'm returning it. It's not worth it.
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I'm not having any issues with my phone that have been mentioned in this thread. Mine is working perfect fine.
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webisweb said:
Even The Almighty Launcher Pro really sucks on this phone. I'm returning it. It's not worth it.
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just to be fair
Launcher Pro hasn't been performing well since Nexus S came out, and all the newer devices that came after it, like the original SGS2.
many other launchers are working way better/faster than Launcher Pro now
in other words Launcher Pro is kinda old school now, it needs to adapt to the new devices

Go Launcher EX. Same thing. Jumpy/choppy/laggy.
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AllGamer said:
just to be fair
Launcher Pro hasn't been performing well since Nexus S came out, and all the newer devices that came after it, like the original SGS2.
many other launchers are working way better/faster than Launcher Pro now
in other words Launcher Pro is kinda old school now, it needs to adapt to the new devices
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Launcher pro runs like crap on every phone.
That launcher has and will be the worst launcher I've ever tried to date. My gs2 flies with the stock launcher and launcher 7. I haven't tried adw as I kinda like touch wiz.

Jorge18 said:
I'm not having any issues with my phone that have been mentioned in this thread. Mine is working perfect fine.
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Can you do something for us, plz? Can you hard reboot your phone (VolUp+Power)? I'd like to know if the phone will stay the same - stutter free.
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Working perfectly fine over here. Had a tiny bit of thr brushed steel issue, but turned up brightness and it went away. Other than that, he phone is blowing me away.
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I posted this in the other vertical lines thread, but I'll post it here as well:
dksxmks said:
I just came back from the T-mobile store and I'm happy to say that the exchanged device is much better in terms of the vertical lines. I'm fairly convinced that it's the nature of these AMOLED displays, only some seem to be worse than others. My old device was at ~40% brightness and it's still pretty clearly visible. Now with this new one, I can go down to ~20% without even noticing it unless I reeeeaaaally stare into it.
Make sure you test it beforehand though. I checked 2 of their display models and they both had that problem. I lucked out with the new one they handed me at random.
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I really wish someone could post and show the lines you guys are seeing. I dont' see this on my screen at all. The little stuttering is very very little and I only see it slightly when pinch zooming on the homescreen. The HTC phones do the same exact thing. Nothing I would return over.

Jjday7 said:
I really wish someone could post and show the lines you guys are seeing. I dont' see this on my screen at all. The little stuttering is very very little and I only see it slightly when pinch zooming on the homescreen. The HTC phones do the same exact thing. Nothing I would return over.
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The thread is called "Vertical lines on screen." Someone posted pics of the issue.
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scmurphy13 said:
The thread is called "Vertical lines on screen." Someone posted pics of the issue.
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ok thanks. I see it now and I will have to look at my phone closer to see if I have the problem. I hope not.

ive had no probs but no phone is 100% perfect

HTC One X Call Quality - Pathetic

This is a mega rant. I have had the phone for about 2 months now, and always thought the issue was only with my device and i should give it to the service center, which was always delayed because of something or the other.
Now recently i suggested the One X to another friend of mine, and he did the same to another friend of his.
On all our phones the microphone quality is just pathetic, the person on the other side of the call is always complaining of the call being muddy or muffled, so to speak and i sound pretty much illegible most of the time.
Though a little bit exaggerated maybe, but im super pissed!
This is what i mailed them :
The microphone quality on my HTC One X is seriously disappointing. I cannot remember one call in which the person on the other end has not complained about my Voice being "muffled" or "muddy" and completely illegible. In fact i am not the only person facing this issue; this has been mentioned in a lot of reviews as well. But i never could have imagined that this issue will be so pronounced!!
I am using a Vodafone connection in India. Exact location is NOIDA, UP (NCR region).
I tested a friends phone as well, and the exact same problem!!! His phone is barely a week old! (He is on Airtel btw.)
Not only am i regretting getting the One X over the Galaxy S3, but i have to bear the constant nag from my friend to whom i had recommended this phone over the Galaxy S3 (AGAIN!).
I have owned the Nexus One, the HTC Desire Z, the HTC Sensation, the HTC G1 and the HTC Hero!! I have always loved the amazing build quality! But one thing that was flawed in all of these devices was the earpiece volume. Though that could be managed with.
HELL! My 3 year old Nexus One sounds crispier!!
And no I have not reached any conclusions by just calling one no. or phone.
I tested the call quality by calling the One X (and calling from the One X) the following devices:
Motorola Atrix / Motorola DEFY / Samsung Galaxy S / Samsung Note / Samsung Galaxy S3 / Nokia Lumia 800 / HTC Nexus One / Samsung Galaxy Nexus / Samsung Nexus S.
It has been 2 months since I purchased the device.
With the One X the ear piece quality was fixed, but the microphone quality just went down the drain!
I cannot even use the phone as a PHONE! ?
I think I just wasted Rs. 36000 ($650) on a top of the line “HTC” device, which is soon going to be “replaced” but the rumored “HTC One X+/CL” ???
Is this how dependable HTC has become? It has been barely 6 months since the HTC One X was released and a new top of the line device already in the works? Is this how the premium customers are treated?
I know that all I will get out of this “rant” is a typical –“We are sorry that you are disappointed with the device and request you to get you device checked at the nearest HTC service center mail”, but I really had to get this through, because I really feel that my trust in HTC as a competent manufacturer of quality mobile devices has been broken and is un repairable.
Im ordering the Galaxy S3 as soon as I reach the US next month to start my PG studies there, at least I will get good support for the money I spend. And most of all will be able to use the phone as phone.
From here on I will not recommended the HTC One X to anyone or as I should put it as- any HTC device from now on.
I am sorry, but I am just throwing away the phone into some drawer and will be using a cheap Nokia phone, which again has far better call quality, than my $650 HTC ONE X! , till the time I get my Galaxy S3.
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Chime in with your views.
AND NO I AM NOT USING A CASE WITH THE PHONE! The bloody camera lens is already accumulating scratches.

Are the scratches magically apppearing or are you pocketing the phone with keys and sand?
Sand or fine dirt will foul up the Mic and scratch even gorilla glass.
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apallohadas said:
Are the scratches magically apppearing or are you pocketing the phone with keys and sand?
Sand or fine dirt will foul up the Mic and scratch even gorilla glass.
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My LCD is fine, there is a screen gguard applied on it. the scratches on the camera lens though are because of it protruding outwards of the back body. so whenever iI place it on a hard oor alight dusty surface.. the lens makes contact and gets scratched.
This really isn't of any concern to me. I will as it is getting a replacement BLACK back panel.

Also the Mic ports are perfectly lint or dust free.

I totally disagree, I've just recorded my self talking and it was crisp clear, could be a network or radio problem, I do remember reading that one of the radios was rubbish in a certain stock rom, try recording your self?
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ever occurred to you you might be on a ****ty network?

whynot66 said:
I totally disagree, I've just recorded my self talking and it was crisp clear, could be a network or radio problem, I do remember reading that one of the radios was rubbish in a certain stock rom, try recording your self?
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Trap that was thethe first thing iI tried myself.
The Mic recording quality is top notch to say the least... but this is when recording in PCM. Which almost impossible to use for transmitting over a network call.
Try calling youself from another phone... mute it (the other phone) and then try speaking to yourself. Compare this with the recording.
Over the past iI tried swapping the radio as well.. even tried different RIL combinations. Still no change.
Furma said:
ever occurred to you you might be on a ****ty network?
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Yeap that is why the friends One X on a different network.
This is not a new thing... it is just too pronounced in my case.
I just Google's - Htc one x voice muffled.
And found that even a lot of reviews state that the call audio is muffled.
I really hope in all of this ,that I am wrong and it is just a netwrok issue.

A friend of mine has the same problem with his One X.
It's definitely a hardware issue.

Just left my self a voicmail and it was as clear as the recording, maybe hardware variances who knows
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Jeroenehv said:
A friend of mine has the same problem with his One X.
It's definitely a hardware issue.
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That's where weird part comes in... the 3 One X's I - all from different batches... bought from different states.
whynot66 said:
Just left my self a voicmail and it was as clear as the recording, maybe hardware variances who knows
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You probably might be right. But can you try calling yourself on another phone ?

bloodhawk said:
That's where weird part comes in... the 3 One X's I - all from different batches... bought from different states.
You probably might be right. But can you try calling yourself on another phone ?
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Not at the min The wife's at work and the kids in bed, I'll check tomorrow and report back
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whynot66 said:
Not at the min The wife's at work and the kids in bed, I'll check tomorrow and report back
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Thanks a bunch for the help...

Counting till the HTC police come in and call you troll

@Op,
It's all about different batches, a excuse that start to count for every new opened thread here LoL. :laugh:
My mic is working fine (yours not), my camera glass doesnt scratch (yours does), funny isn't?
Btw you had to mention SIII in your first post isn't?
LoL hahahaha.... :cyclops: another troll or representative to my my opinion, nothing more, I mean what else are you looking for here? :victory:
@Apallohadas,
Yah, another user who can't take care of his stuff and spilling his frustration here to spoil your fun.
apallohadas said:
Are the scratches magically apppearing or are you pocketing the phone with keys and sand?
Sand or fine dirt will foul up the Mic and scratch even gorilla glass.
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@op
Ok my voice is pretty bassy, but no-one has complained about my voice being muffled at the other end since May.
I just recorded myself and it sounds pretty fine.
I can understand why you're pissed, despite all the shortcomings of any smartphone its basic feature i.e the phone should be fully functional.
But if you're saying you AND two other friends also feel the voice is muffled that's messed up ****.

averygagaanroid said:
Counting till the HTC police come in and call you troll
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Well, i have mailed HTC almost everywhere possible. I don't want to goto the service centre people here... They are a bunch of idiots who don't know anything.
I love the phone... And really hoping i dont have to galaxy s3
Laurentius26 said:
@Op,
It's all about different batches, a excuse that counts for every thread here LoL. :laugh:
My mic is working fine (yours not), my camera glass doesnt scratch (yours does), funny isn't?
Btw you had to mention SIII in your first post isn't?
LoL hahahaha.... another troll or representative to my my opinion, nothing more.:victory:
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Well call me whatever you want I dont care .... I love the One X for what it is. Just mighty pissed because of something so basic.
Why did did I mention the S3 in my post you ask ?
If not the ONE X then WHAT ELSE?
Your signature answers the question.
And you might want to check my post history.. that'll probably give you more proof over the "troll" crap.
Also I prefer Sense over anything. That is why I'm running ViperX and not CM10.

death__machine said:
@op
Ok my voice is pretty bassy, but no-one has complained about my voice being muffled at the other end since May.
I just recorded myself and it sounds pretty fine.
I can understand why you're pissed, despite all the shortcomings of any smartphone its basic feature i.e the phone should be fully functional.
But if you're saying you AND two other friends also feel the voice is muffled that's messed up ****.
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Hmmmm...thanks for the input man. :good:
There must be something with the Indian networks here which is messing things up badly...
Only choice is to wait till i get to the US and try the phone there.
Now I'm beginning to feel that I might been a little too hasty.

Ok sorry, probably I'm wrong but I'm getting nuts people keep mentioning SIII in there first post.
If you have a mic problem go claim your warrantee, what's keeping you?
My mic works fine, calling does work fine, could it be a operator issue you and your friends are facing?
Also my camera glass or screen doesn't have any scratch, I feel like I'm the only one in the world LoL.
bloodhawk said:
If not the ONE X then WHAT ELSE?
Your signature answers the question.
And you might want to check my post history.. that'll probably give you more proof over the "troll" crap.
Also I prefer Sense over anything. That is why I'm running ViperX and not CM10.
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Laurentius26 said:
Ok sorry, probably I'm wrong but I'm getting nuts people keep mentioning SIII in there first post.
If you have a mic problem go claim your warrantee, what's keeping you?
My mic works fine, calling does work fine, could it be a operator issue you and your friends are facing?
Alo my camera glass or screen doesn't have any scratch, I feel like I'm the only one in the world LoL.
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Well my LCD is perfect even after having used it without any protection for a month
Love the screen Nothing comes close! PERIOD.
Thing is that they are on a different netwrok and i am on a differemt one.
As far claiming the warranty... well I'm leaving for the US in 10 days. and I'm prettyyyu sure that they are going to take atleast 15 to even get a repair done. I don't want to get the ATT one X ., no matter what! Can't afford to get a new one due to obvious overheads of moving to a different country...
Ah chuck it. Ill go bloody order a Jabra Street 2. While I wait for HTC to revert back.

bloodhawk said:
Hmmmm...thanks for the input man. :good:
There must be something with the Indian networks here which is messing things up badly...
Only choice is to wait till i get to the US and try the phone there.
Now I'm beginning to feel that I might been a little too hasty.
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If it helps, I've used the phone in the UAE and India(!dea and Vodafone) I'm on Idea right now.
Can you try to describe the muffling a little better? Does your voice get muffled real bad i.e people can't understand jack-**** or what?
And yea warranty will take long, you won't be able to claim warranty in the U.S either. I can't claim my UAE warranty in India unless I pay $30 for shipping to an International HTC Service Center.

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So excited to be first! Envy and praise me!
So the obvious way to kick things off here would be the mention Samsung's new Smart Watch...

Skipjacks said:
So the obvious way to kick things off here would be the mention Samsung's new Smart Watch...
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Meh.. Its not great, but it's okay. You would never see me wearing one. I do, however, have my eyes on the Note 3. I own the s4 currently, but have always had a slight desire for the Note. I wasn't too sure about holding that monster up to my ear, but now that I have converted myself to only using a Bluetooth, I think I might JUMP (pun intended) on it.

Introducing the iPhone 5S
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Skipjacks said:
So excited to be first! Envy and praise me!
So the obvious way to kick things off here would be the mention Samsung's new Smart Watch...
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I already have a Samsung smart watch... I pull it out of my pocket, press the button on the top-right, and I can see what time it is. Among other things it also makes phone calls, records video, and is quite adept at just generally being pretty awesome. :laugh:

I don't see the necessity for the smart watch, especially since it has to be paired with a phone. It seems cool and all, but I think it's far too limited to be used regularly, intuitively speaking, and is also a bit pricey and gimmicky, imo. Of course, I'm sure some will come along and sing of it's praises, but to that poor misguided chap, I simply reply: bellow your misguided attempts of impression to someone else, for I remain thoroughly unimpressed!

Instead of a smart watch, i would rather a Star Trek style communicator badge.
The Note 3 does look like a decent upgrade from the N7000.
One thing i would like to see in a smartphone is a digital radio receiver, rather than (or in addition to) FM. I know digital radio isn't as ubiquitous as FM - and the standard varies from place to place (DAB+ here in Australia, iirc). But it would be pretty neat, and certainly innovative.

Mad_Technologist said:
I don't see the necessity for the smart watch, especially since it has to be paired with a phone. It seems cool and all, but I think it's far too limited to be used regularly, intuitively speaking, and is also a bit pricey and gimmicky, imo. Of course, I'm sure some will come along and sing of it's praises, but to that poor misguided chap, I simply reply: bellow your misguided attempts of impression to someone else, for I remain thoroughly unimpressed!
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I see your point....but on the flip side...its like a **** Tracy watch!
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.

I definately wouldnt mind having the new Galaxy Note 3. That 5.7 inch screen tho. holy ginormous. I can't wait for the system dump though. I wanna port the new multi window that they have. It looks awesome! And that watch is insane. Wonder if it will work on the S4, wouldn't see why not!

elesbb said:
I definately wouldnt mind having the new Galaxy Note 3. That 5.7 inch screen tho. holy ginormous. I can't wait for the system dump though. I wanna port the new multi window that they have. It looks awesome! And that watch is insane. Wonder if it will work on the S4, wouldn't see why not!
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Samsung confirmed the watch will work with the GS4 when they update it to 4.3.

I'd rather wait for Colin Farell's (Total Recall movie) cellphone on the palm of his hand.

KillaHurtz said:
Samsung confirmed the watch will work with the GS4 when they update it to 4.3.
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So that means it will never work on the T-Mobile GS4 since they don't know how to update us

im more interested in how the nexus 5 will turn out. The note 3 is good n all, but its too big for me, and s pen doesnt really grab me either. One of many good things i like about switching from sprint to tmobile is that switching phones is so much easier. ill have my s4 as a home phone and my nexus 5 as a going out device.
And seeing how t-mobile is dragging their feet with updating us without even giving us a reason, the nexus line is that much more appealing

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im more interested in how the nexus 5 will turn out. The note 3 is good n all, but its too big for me, and s pen doesnt really grab me either. One of many good things i like about switching from sprint to tmobile is that switching phones is so much easier. ill have my s4 as a home phone and my nexus 5 as a going out device.
And seeing how t-mobile is dragging their feet with updating us without even giving us a reason, the nexus line is that much more appealing
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The note 3 is quite large but the s pen is pretty cool I must admit!
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What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD

elesbb said:
What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
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But it comes in colors now! No one ever thought of that before! Except you know...every accessories manufacturer who sells colorful cases for every phone ever made
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elesbb said:
What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
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Looks pretty sorry IMO. Where's the NFC? Where's the top-notch processor? Removable battery, SD card slot, HD display? The list goes on.

Saturny said:
Looks pretty sorry IMO. Where's the NFC? Where's the top-notch processor? Removable battery, SD card slot, HD display? The list goes on.
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Actually that's prolly the only good thing about it. It's processor. It's 64 bit architecture. But still only dual core? Really apple lol. And skipJack's, the different colors are a HUGE step for apologize, let them have their parade
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elesbb said:
What do you guys think of the new iPhone 5S? I love how they are boasting about the fingerprint reader, which has been around for centuries. -.- I just can't wait till Samsung shows everyone up when they release a phone with a released version of the YOUM display. I'd love to see what Apple counters with xD
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I just want Samsung to come out with a phone with an IPS screen and a faster camera, everything else with the GS4 is as good or better than the iPhone 5S imo.

CitrixLemon said:
I just want Samsung to come out with a phone with an IPS screen and a faster camera, everything else with the GS4 is as good or better than the iPhone 5S imo.
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I would just like T-Mobile and Samsung to get me a phone that a) works with Bluetooth without breaking up; b) works with Speaker without breaking up, and c) actually does what it is supposed to do - when I want it to do so, regardless of where I am.
I really don't see this thing (S4) any better than my Bionic!
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hisself said:
I would just like T-Mobile and Samsung to get me a phone that a) works with Bluetooth without breaking up; b) works with Speaker without breaking up, and c) actually does what it is supposed to do - when I want it to do so, regardless of where I am.
I really don't see this thing (S4) any better than my Bionic!
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Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention a camera that actually focuses on the subject in the frame, and stays focused until it actually takes the picture.

3rd Party Camera Apps

Knowing that the week part of this phone is the camera (beyond low light photography)...
Is it better with third-party camera apps?

NYC Coyote said:
Knowing that the week part of this phone is the camera (beyond low light photography)...
Is it better with third-party camera apps?
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Really... I don't think the camera is weak at all... Well to each their own..
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I am taking great shots with the stock camera... Vignette is a good app...
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thanks... and excuse the typo on "weak"

NYC Coyote said:
thanks... and excuse the typo on "weak"
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I was going to bite, but I did that once and someone pointed out something I misspelled years ago lol.
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Sheldor1967 said:
I am taking great shots with the stock camera... Vignette is a good app...
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what does vignette do that the stock camera can't? It has lots of manual settings and has filters.
Also, I think someone said that 3rd party camera apps lower the resolution to 3.2mp.

Weak?
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I purchased Camera Zoom FX during one of those Google sales, never used it on the S3 but like you I've not been entirely satisfied with the camera on this phone. I have tried it and keep going back and forth from it to stock. I have also tried Camera JB+, Camera Pro, HDR Camera+, Vignette and a few others. Ultra-pixel aside, it is still just 4 megapixel. though I have read that that detail alone does not mean that the camera is superior or inferior. I am by no means an expert in photography, probably don't qualify as amateur. but I know there is a difference however slight between the S3 and this one. BTW, I have still not determined if a 3rd party is better.

Mine certainly seems weak. I can't seem to get it to focus on what I'm trying to get it to focus on. My kid is holding a teddy bear, I click on her face.. it grabs focus on the bear. Every once in a while it'll nail focus and get a beautiful shot but I have the issue with the screen turning red in low light too. So maybe it's the photo sensor or a firmware thing. I'm praying it's firmware because I obviously don't want a replacement device because I'll lose S-OFF.
Verizon, naturally, is no help. "Never heard of it. HTC hasn't told us anything about it. Deal with them." ... So it could just be a 'some devices' kind of thing.. but I can understand why some might think the camera is weak. Coming from an iPhone 5, which took fantastic pictures, I've been very disappointed to say the least. Obviously, YMMV.
And since I'm sure at least someone is thinking 'go back to iPhone then', I'll add. Those shots I mentioned where focus is nailed.. the pictures are great. This camera has potential. I'M just not getting the results yet.

I just got my phone replaced because my camera couldn't focus on anything further than 3 feet away. The majority of my pictures were blurry and unusable, so I went to Verizon and a rep compared it to their floor model and agreed with me. Got it replaced (although they sent me a DNA at first...) and am loving the camera now. Yea the zoom is weak, but I don't mind.

And OP, you're not crazy. But help is on the way...
http://bgr.com/2013/09/12/htc-one-camera-bug-fix/
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...issues-coming-with-android-4-3-update-1181125
Google "htc one camera issues" .. It appears those pleased with the camera are in the gross minority.. but that's lucky for them.
One of the blurbs from the article: "In fact a poll was taken recently where 328/388 users said “Yes” to their HTC One having camera problems like the one described above." For the record, that issue was the covering the lens and seeing your screen go red or blue or purple.

Fyi we can install the camera from the Google edition phones via this link
http://www.adrive.com/public/EtV5jj/com.google.android.gallery3d.apk
I've installed it and I'm getting nice pictures with the limited testing I did.
It's also got the 'photosphere' which I haven't tried but from what I read it's pretty cool sounding
Sidenote, my other half got the iPhone 5S and I played with the camera for over an hour taking pictures around the house and outside of my dogs... I wish I could rip the camera out of the 5S and put it in my HTC One...it's that good :-/
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one4thewings said:
And OP, you're not crazy. But help is on the way...
http://bgr.com/2013/09/12/htc-one-camera-bug-fix/
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...issues-coming-with-android-4-3-update-1181125
Google "htc one camera issues" .. It appears those pleased with the camera are in the gross minority.. but that's lucky for them.
One of the blurbs from the article: "In fact a poll was taken recently where 328/388 users said “Yes” to their HTC One having camera problems like the one described above." For the record, that issue was the covering the lens and seeing your screen go red or blue or purple.
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I'll agree with some but in the end people who don't have problems won't be looking for polls to complain. Same way to put a bias on stats by making sure you're only getting the people who will prove your point. Not saying that its great but for my person use it beats anything I've used. You can prove anything right or wrong for the main reason that the vocal ones are almost always the ones with issues.
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Thanks for this. I miss the stock Android camera. And I like the gallery layout better too.
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Fyi we can install the camera from the Google edition phones via this link
http://www.adrive.com/public/EtV5jj/com.google.android.gallery3d.apk
I've installed it and I'm getting nice pictures with the limited testing I did.
It's also got the 'photosphere' which I haven't tried but from what I read it's pretty cool sounding
Sidenote, my other half got the iPhone 5S and I played with the camera for over an hour taking pictures around the house and outside of my dogs... I wish I could rip the camera out of the 5S and put it in my HTC One...it's that good :-/
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josh995 said:
Fyi we can install the camera from the Google edition phones via this link
http://www.adrive.com/public/EtV5jj/com.google.android.gallery3d.apk
I've installed it and I'm getting nice pictures with the limited testing I did.
It's also got the 'photosphere' which I haven't tried but from what I read it's pretty cool sounding
Sidenote, my other half got the iPhone 5S and I played with the camera for over an hour taking pictures around the house and outside of my dogs... I wish I could rip the camera out of the 5S and put it in my HTC One...it's that good :-/
Sent from my HTC One.
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Is it possible to install this camera alongside of the HTC One camera? It would be nice to have both. I don't want to lose some of the features of the HTC One camera.
Thanks!

Frankie1588 said:
Is it possible to install this camera alongside of the HTC One camera? It would be nice to have both. I don't want to lose some of the features of the HTC One camera.
Thanks!
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Yup! I've got it installed alongside the stock HTC camera. It also adds the stock Google "gallery" app too. Very awesome
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josh995 said:
Yup! I've got it installed alongside the stock HTC camera. It also adds the stock Google "gallery" app too. Very awesome
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Ohh that's cool. Didn't know that part... hmm...

Stitching
Anyone able to get their photosphere pictures to stitch together properly with the GPE camera app? Mine are totally jacked! The stitching cuts out big parts of the pictures.

nrfitchett4 said:
what does vignette do that the stock camera can't? It has lots of manual settings and has filters.
Also, I think someone said that 3rd party camera apps lower the resolution to 3.2mp.
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Blue image is the HTC Camera app, The other is Vignette... Vignette is extremely flexible, but not at all easy to use...I like it's filters. But, by and large, I am getting great shots with the stock app...I really hope that update fixes the purple/blue issues because it obviously is a software issue. If Vignette can get it right, then HTC should be able to...
I did not like the results of the google edition camera...too bright and oversaturated...

Focal now in Beta in Google Play Store
For those interested, the recently removed Focal App from CM is now in Beta in the Play Store.

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What's the chances of installing the camera sensor from a Desire 816 or an M8 ultra to get a 13mp camera rather than the 4mp? They obviously work with sense 6, but will they fit?
Let's say it, would you be tempted?

mwatson said:
What's the chances of installing the camera sensor from a Desire 816 or an M8 ultra to get a 13mp camera rather than the 4mp? They obviously work with sense 6, but will they fit?
Let's say it, would you be tempted?
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Lol, why would you do that. HTC isn't stupid, they wouldn't put better camera in midranger than in flagship.
For my purpouses, camera is great. Night photos are the best. Daily are sometimes overexposed, but play a little with settings and they won't be. Pictures are good even on the monitor screen.

I would say chances are less than zero. Even if it was the same ribbon cable pinout, there's no way it's the same physical footprint so it wouldn't fit, and the software would have no idea how to talk to it. You have a better chance of your phone sprouting legs.

mwatson said:
What's the chances of installing the camera sensor from a Desire 816 or an M8 ultra to get a 13mp camera rather than the 4mp? They obviously work with sense 6, but will they fit?
Let's say it, would you be tempted?
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lol.... ¬¬ are you serious? impossible

eltoffer said:
lol.... ¬¬ are you serious? impossible
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It was once said to be impossible to split an atom... I don't know if you've ever check out some of the homebrew electronics sites & forums, but I have seen more unbelievably amazing things than soldering a cmos onto a board. While it may be highly impractical, improbable even, few things are impossible.

GSLEON3 said:
It was once said to be impossible to split an atom... I don't know if you've ever check out some of the homebrew electronics sites & forums, but I have seen more unbelievably amazing things than soldering a cmos onto a board. While it may be highly impractical, improbable even, few things are impossible.
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If this guy is asking for that it is impossible (st least for him/her, also don't know why we would want a worse camera on this device, not impossible for HTC but for us :/ easy
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GSLEON3 said:
It was once said to be impossible to split an atom... I don't know if you've ever check out some of the homebrew electronics sites & forums, but I have seen more unbelievably amazing things than soldering a cmos onto a board. While it may be highly impractical, improbable even, few things are impossible.
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You could solder a Subaru onto the side of the phone too, it doesn't mean it can drive. There's more to these things than a little fun with a soldering iron.
Given enough time, ambition, and access to the full source of everything involved (kernel, drivers), I'm sure it's POSSIBLE. But no one is going to do it -- that's the part that has zero percent chance of happening. For that amount of effort and time just buy a different phone that suits you better, or wait a year.

Crikey I'm not being funny but what's the big hang up with m8 camera, it's a phone for crying out loud? There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It takes perfectly good photos. Really if you need a top notch camera go and buy one that is designed for the job.

It is still funny to me, how people think the bigger number is always better.
13 mediocre mega pixels vs 4 excellent mega pixels. I prefer a camera that can actually handle different lighting conditions like the M8. I had an S5 for 2 days before returning it. The camera wasn't that great. I prefer the M8 .
It is sad that ignorant people can stifle real innovation with such blind devotion to bigger numbers. That's why Samsung does so well, they keep hyping numbers in a cheap phone and people buy it.
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Impossible :good:

It's not impossible I've done it! ! I've also constructed a rocket and lunar lander from egg boxes and managed to fly to the moon and spend the night there. Just got back to see this post! I'll post some pictures I took with the modified m8 in a while, they're absolutely cracking! If anyone else wants the mod done on there m8 off a trip to the moon send me a check for £500 and some solder oh and some egg boxes.
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