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Hi first time poster, please dont flame me if this has been said else where, but most threads have multiple pages with people asking multiple questions and its slightly confusing.
So what i want to ask is....
Im waiting for Android 2.2 to be officially released from HTC OTA (Rumours saying within next 2 weeks) However, im not to confident in HTC as nothing official has been said and i wouldnt be suprised if it got delayed. Now my thinking is, ill root my phone, and install a 2.2 ROM on it, but what i was wondering is, when the official release comes out, could i restore my Desire back to the Stock ROM (Unbranded Desire btw) so i can recieve the update? (I Prefer having everything working over slight improvements in certain aspects + have SENSE although i hate the interfrace. just like the widgets)
Would this be possible?
Thanks for the help.
You won't be able to receive it OTA, but it would fairly quickly make it's way here and you can just flash it from here as you would any other rom.
Edit: Just realisesd you will flash back to stock. If you go back to stock rom then I think you will get it OTA as normal. It's only custom roms that don't get it this way.
So the fact that the phone would be rooted shouldnt cause an issue?
Sorry if these are nooby questions, just scared of breaking my desire haha! cant afford a new
also sorry i think i have seen this else where, just struggling to find it again, but there is an unbranded stock rom available correct? or could i backup my current 1?
wish this was as simple as my g1
There is definitely at least 1 rooted stock rom about, and loads of official stock roms available. I can't remember where I seen the rooted stock one. It's in here somewhere! You can't backup your current rom without root unfortunately.
At the very worst, if you couldn't get the update OTA then you would get it here anyway so there is no problem with that.
Actual rooting will not cause any issues at all. It's fairly safe now.
Sweet! Thanks for the help! Your very kind for not flaming me haha!
Btw nothing against the developers in here! your putting HTC and Google to shame in some places, i just like EVERYTHING working on my phone, dont like broken cameras etc, hence me liking stock
Thanks again!
Lol the devs here are brilliant.
Before you totally decide to go stock, you could try one of pays sense roms. They have everything working perfect, and infact are better than stock for speed, looks, and battery life. There is nothing not working in his roms!
It's really only froyo roms that have bugs so you could just steer clear from them for now.
oh dont get me wrong, im gonna try the froyo, and other roms, i just want to try them out until i settle with 1 for now, i got no problem with them for the short term, just the 1 i stick with i want to work, and to be honest, (going on my g1 root experiance) i never found a rom that worked 100%, but maybe im just being a noob and didnt find any.
Cheers for the advise though, ill have a look for some pays roms now.
Thanks again for help
I'm happy with the stock ROM that my unbranded Desire came with, but I'm thinking about rooting it to add some extra functionality - specifically two-way call recording and Titanium Backup right now.
Is it possible to root the phone without changing ROMs and/or losing all of my currently installed apps, settings etc etc?
If it is, what happens when ROM updates appear? Can I install the OTA updates or would I need to wait for someone to mod it to keep root enabled?
Finally, the same question but regarding 2.2. What happens when the official 2.2 update comes out? I'm guessing nobody knows for certain, but are we likely to be waiting a while before we can update if our phones are rooted?
I'd have thought this sort of thing would be covered in a rooting FAQ but I can't seem to find anything about it!
Much thanks for any advice.
I'm also very interested in the response to this, as a new Desire user I don't think that the rooting/rom upgrade guide is particularly helpful, it dives far too deeply into the topic before actually talking about the process, what it involves from a complete Desire newbie perspective.
In a word - no.
In a few more words, part of the rooting process has to replace your existing ROM.
Regards,
Dave
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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1. if u follow the steps exactly as explained, and never touch the phone when it is installing flashing formatting etc etc then u get 99.9% u wont brick it
dont worry im also a student and i bet theres more of us here
2. hmm not sure how to explain what a radio is
3. yes u can, but dont see a reason why, cuz devs update roms quicker and add more functions to them
4. if you just root then no you wont loose your stuff, if you want to install a custom rom then yes you will loose it but you can always back it up using free rommanager back up
This is the main reason why I haven't rooted my Desire yet, despite 1 or 2 friends urging me to. They have Heros. I haven't got the money to replace it and seen as it's on contract I'd be pretty screwed for the next 13 months or something.
Don't worry
Understandable.
I was thinking the same.
It was when I run out of space to install apps and gmail stop working bcoz of low memory space warning.
I decided to take the plunge.
Used unrevoked to root my desire and installing my second rom today lol.
Oh and the radio is the file that contains radio setup for froyo roms.
the one you need for froyo rom is version 5.xx. eg. 32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08.
so if you are going to install froyo based roms then you need the radio file update or all hell breaks loose.
you can update the radio then install the rom or the other way around up to you.
have fun and ask if you need help.
Was in a similar situation and finally took the plunge today.
Was 10x easier than I thought it would be. Follow the guides and you can't go wrong.
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Radio is the part that handles WiFi, gps, 3G and all that stuff. E.g. you have low WiFi signal, you can update the radio to fix it.
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Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
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The ROM's here don't include the radio hence why you need to update the radio seprately, most, if not all, the froyo ROM's will need the latest radio.
Peelypeel said:
Ok guys thanks for all the replies, I'm.defiantly doing it now, my phone alarm has failed to go off too many times now (hey any excuse to convince myself to do it lol) and I want to see if a new ROM will fix it.
Shall I go for OpenDesire or CyanogenMod? I want froyo, and I want it stable (preferably I would still love sense if that's possible).
Also on a side note, I don't want to appear idiotic, I know what a radio is, I just wasn't sure what everyone meant by "update" it, and why you have to do of separately to flashing the ROM.
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Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever
jacketyjoe said:
Bugs are to be expected but many fixes are to be expected too
opendesire from what i've heard but they lack sense i think, i wanted sense so i chose neophytes rom (it does slow down when i DL stuff from the market sometimes though, i should report it to him)
You flash a radio like a rom, just use unrevoked to do it
BTW use unrevoked with the rooting, easiest thing ever
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Is this Neophyte?
showthread.php?t=732246 (i cant post links yet, im sure you can work that out though)
and how do i flash the radio with unrevoked3, where do i even get the radio... file?
Sorry about the questions, normally id just go barrelling into to something like this and work it out as i went, but this is serious stuff this time. I want to be sure.
Thanks again
**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.
Peelypeel said:
**** i pressed "SIMLOCK" in the hboot thing, wtf have i done. it said it did something.
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i think it means you just locked your phone to the simcard that was in your phone at the time. Rooting it should unlock it again though
BTW here is an unrevoked guide, neophytes ROM and the radio (use the latest, not the leaked one), follow all the instructions to the letter and you should be fine (follow unrevoked's rom flashing instructions for the radio though, thats how i did it and gawd was it easy)
Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
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Peelypeel said:
Thank you very very much. With those guides in hand I'm about to do it. See you on the other side ha ha
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I'd tried the other way first and my phone wouldn't root (i was really really frightened when a HTC logo came up and stayed on for a whole 24hrs) so i tried unrevoked and it worked like a charm
Lets hope everything goes a bit smoother for you than me
That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.
Peelypeel said:
That really was one of the easiest things i've ever done. Thank you so much for all your help, and the ROM suggestion, loving the new sense.
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no trouble then, nice to hear
Have fun, i love it
Sorry to ask a stupid question, can i root my desire, keep my current OS as it is and still get the OTA update to 2.2 as it would if my phone wasn't rooted?
I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!
SteveEdson said:
I would try the modaco custom rom, search for it. Its based on the latest leaked rom from HTC so its stable, its froyo, it has sense as well as the new 2.2 features like tethering, new widgets, 720p video etc etc
i rooted my phone at the weekend and im loving it!
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Agree, also have the modaco ROM. Best thing is that you bake your own rom and only put items that you really need.
Peelypeel said:
I just saw a post on Lifehacker, using unrevoked3 to root my desire (id give a link but im new and apparently not allowed), and this seamed like a nice simple process, so i thought id give it a go. but before i do, i just have a few question that id really love a detailed answer or two to, if you would be so kind.
1. Am i going to brick my phone and cry because i bought it unlocked and cant get it replaced because im a poor student?
2. What the hell is this Radio business?
3. Can i put it back to normal so i can get back to OTA updates from HTC when they finally come to there Senses with FroYo (get it )
4. Am I going to lose all my stuff because i cant back it up before i root.
Thats basically it, if you can answer that, id be incredibility incredibility grateful.
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Well mate.. I was pretty much in the same boat as you.. Student, wanting to root my phone, didn't know what all the stuff was.. And I'll try and rectify it for you as much as possible, following your points .
1. If you follow the guides which have been put up by unrevoked, or the guide on this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 or our lovely friends over at android.modaco http://android.modaco.com/content/h...e-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/ then you shouldn't have a problem at all. I was feeling the same way, was confused and really didn't want to risk the rooting process.
2. The Radio.. It's not like a Radio which we use to tune in to FM and AM, think of it as something to help other processes work in the phone. Be it Wifi, 3G, HSDPA, GSM.. All these get updated with the new ROM's (Froyo) and they need the Radio to make them run smoother, and better. Think of a Radio as a driver when you're updating something on a computer. But BE CAREFUL when flashing the Radio, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT touch the phone until it has completely finished booting (2 or 3 times, you'll know when it's finished).
3. You can put it back to normal any time, just by flashing an older ROM on to it, just have a look at some of the official RUU's on this forum.
4. The sort of stuff which you're worried about are photos, text messages and apps? Best way for this is to invest in MyBackupPro, where you can back up all of your texts online etc. For apps and all, why not download ASTRO from the Market? It can back up all your apps and install them again no problems.
I hope this helps
Dan
Oke, quick question guys.
I have an unbranded HTC Desire UNROOTED, haven't rooted it yet...
It came with 2.2 and fully working etc..
My following question, is it worth it to root my phone and get a ROM?
What are the benefits of using a ROM on HTC Desire...
Because I've been reading comments on different ROMs for ages now and I just can't figure out which is best and has everything working.
I want a clean ROM which I then can flash a theme on, so it probably should not be odexed. Sorry for so many questions I just want to be sure.
So basically my question is root or not root, and if root, which ROM.
Share your experiences please, thanks !
Same here, what are the disadvantages to ROMs and rooting over a stock ROM??? Just problems with changing SD cards? Stability? Bugs??
a2sd+ and ****load of space for apps is no. 1 for me.
Every rom is stable enough for heavy everyday usage, unless they are marked as experimental, beta or something along those lines.
Youll be able to install as many apps you want with a2sd+ which is better than stock FroYo a2sd as all of the apps actually go onto the sd card.
Speed is massively improved on vanilla and sense roms, which is always lovely.
Endless mods too. Youll be able to pick themes for your roms, and even make your own if youre up to it.
Hopefully that will convert you
Sent from my HTC Desire
GANJDROID said:
Every rom is stable enough for heavy everyday usage, unless they are marked as experimental, beta or something along those lines.
Youll be able to install as many apps you want with a2sd+ which is better than stock FroYo a2sd as all of the apps actually go onto the sd card.
Speed is massively improved on vanilla and sense roms, which is always lovely.
Endless mods too. Youll be able to pick themes for your roms, and even make your own if youre up to it.
Hopefully that will convert you
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...but, if you're happy with the performance and features of the stock ROM then there's probably no need. Most of us here do it just cos we can....
Oh, and just a warning, if you do root your device and start flashing different ROMS you may not be able to stop. Has been known to cause many problems, typically with wives and girlfriends.
I have hboot version greater than 0.75 (0.93 I think) and stock UK 2.2 ROM with latest update, can I still root and flash?
i also want to root, but im waiting for unrevoked v3.2.1, however im not sure if it works with hboot 0.93 (which im also on) can someone clarify that it works or doesn't??
Thanks
cr1960 said:
...but, if you're happy with the performance and features of the stock ROM then there's probably no need. Most of us here do it just cos we can....
Oh, and just a warning, if you do root your device and start flashing different ROMS you may not be able to stop. Has been known to cause many problems, typically with wives and girlfriends.
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Thats very true, but rooting basically unlocks everything, except system access, but thats nearly done
Haha, yeah, they do get quite peeved when you pay more attention on your phone than them
As for the hboot people, I think all hboots have been rooted, you just need to search the development forum.
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I have rooted my phone and I'm happy I did it.
Just like the feeling of it that it can do more now and not be limited.
the new unrEVOked can root HBOOT 0.93 as I did it before going back to stock
I downgraded first, shouldn't make a different on how the ROM runs.
So downgrade hboot and then root and flash.
Right, but rooting messes up the OTA updates...
Rooting only affects otas if your not on an official rom.
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cr1960 said:
...but, if you're happy with the performance and features of the stock ROM then there's probably no need. Most of us here do it just cos we can....
Oh, and just a warning, if you do root your device and start flashing different ROMS you may not be able to stop. Has been known to cause many problems, typically with wives and girlfriends.
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So true.. thats why I havent rooted.... yet...
chichoko said:
So true.. thats why I havent rooted.... yet...
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LOLOL...
That´s so true, my girlfriend hates my phone...
Had it rooted for a few weeks installed 2 or 3 rom´s, a few theme mod´s....
get it back to unroot status, why?
first of all the new radio gives u less battery drains, u still have froyo with stock rom, fast and stable and most important issue of all, WARRANTY...
i already bricked on Magic 32A
MrUsta said:
Right, but rooting messes up the OTA updates...
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U can use OTA updates with root, but you need to use fake flash to enter custom recovery, if u flash the custom recovery, removing the original one, u get an error when trying to update via OTA
And why finally decided to root my phone?
1. Because I love modifying gadgets.
2. More options, more space by extension.
3. You can always go back to unroot.
4. Theme Sense or Non-Sense.
5. Backup whole ROM.
Etc..
Those are the advantages I was looking for.
And I'm happy with it and had no trouble!
The updates will be on a ROM too anyways.
Don't ROOT
If i knew it was so hard to UNROOT i wouldn't have ROOTED in the first place...!
Why do you need to unroot so badly and what is preventing you?
So any other advantages of rooting apart from increasing internal memory? For stability and productivity, what ROMs are recommend? Is class two Sandisk ok for app2sd+? Can the ext3 partition be backed up or copied to another card?
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HI guys, im new to this so please bare with me, im all new to this, ive just become an android fan after moving from the iphone, i recieved my HTC desire hd yesterday from 3....ok frankly i have no clue on how to remove the 3 logo that comes with it, it makes the phone really slow to start up...
i need to remove it, so ill go step at a time, im afraid to start using the phone, install apps and evrything, set up email accounts, use htc sense incase i have to remove everything again or format it....ive been trying to read on numerous forums and trying to get used to the terms u guys use...but im still a little confused as i cant seem to find anyone here mentioning how to remove the 3 logo from scratch....
I would like the original htc firmware once ive got rid of the logo, well yes for now since i dont know much about the customs Roms yet....so was wondering ill do things slowly, if i can remove the 3 logo and install an htc original firmware....anytime in the future could i install a custom one or would i have to delete all the games, and information from the phone evrytime i choose to install a custom ROM....
So in summary could someone please explain step by step how i can remove the logo...oh and people here were mentioning something about RUUs, what are they...no idea....please if u could help, would be great...Im kinda confused wat a goldcard is 2...its all new to me so please be paient
Kind Regards, B, phone is awesome by the way
Read the downgrade guide in dev subforum, it is in the sticky roll up thread. That removes your logo and gives you HTC WWE software. You have to make a goldcard, it is basically a card that gives you some additional rights to flash stuff.
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