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HTC touch dual full screen keyboard (UPDATED, Thank you theloanranger)

New cab with working files (all three keyboards) no key appearing fixed and some other bugs (still a couple popping up though) can't wait tell JUVS and some of the other guys get more of the new apps working. Thank you theloanranger !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...336587&page=10
Cab file has been switched to the new one
Did not see anyone working on this in this forum (seems focused in ELF) but the keyboard does work on other devices thought I would post it over here (would be a great addition to the ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29

will test it out. thanks
edit* doesn't work on my 8525. Just black blank square shows up and no response at all.

Thanks for sharing!
It works just fine on my 8525, except the Symbol Keyboard, which is blank. Hopefully this glitch is solved soon.

Would someone please post a screen shot please?

well, I made a package using Pandora for my Hermes.
in order to solve the symbol problem, I had to include the symbol pad in the ROM.
everything works just fine now.
Thank you guys!!!

GuzuGuzu said:
well, I made a package using Pandora for my Hermes.
in order to solve the symbol problem, I had to include the symbol pad in the ROM.
everything works just fine now.
Thank you guys!!!
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Would you be so kind as to share your Pandora package, please?
Also, have you noticed the problem with using the slide out keyboard and XT9 input on the hermes?

aaronsmckee said:
Did not see anyone working on this in this forum (seems focused in ELF) but the keyboard does work on other devices thought I would post it over here (would be a great addition to the ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29
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the following attachments are for cooking into hermes rom. i have tested on my own rom and they work.
one bug at this time with key board....you must be on a screen where text can be input on screen if not letters and numbers will not show up.

herg62123 said:
the following attachments are for cooking into hermes rom. i have tested on my own rom and they work.
one bug at this time with key board....you must be on a screen where text can be input on screen if not letters and numbers will not show up.
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can you tell what the 3 different files are and how to use them, do they have CABs?
if it is a keyboard skin why are there 3 files to DL?
thanks

bennec83 said:
can you tell what the 3 different files are and how to use them, do they have CABs?
if it is a keyboard skin why are there 3 files to DL?
thanks
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the three files are keyboard, random acess( this like iphone where you can slide your finger down the alfabet letters so you can go straight to that group), and the last one i am still trying to figure out what this is for.
the only one i am using is random access that works. if you want i will share my personnal rom with random access included. the only thing you will have to do is use schaps 1.0 config to remap your left soft key to random access and rename the shown name to contacts. by doing this random access works all the time.

disable xt9
hi,
the keyboard is cool, its working on my tytn.
my problem is that i don't like the t9 at all. i'm used to write messages my way.
i searched in the forums, and there was a tip of deleting registry key tegic. if i rename the key, the keyboard is not working anymore. does anyone have an idea or solution to disable the xt9 input method for the touch keyboard?
the setting XT9SupportMSSip is on 1, i changed it to 0 -> this worked fine, i don't have the t9 support in the default keyboards anymore (it displays the icon on the top, but it is switched off on text-entry.)

has anyone already exported the HTC Touch Dual 'Image Viewer'?
looks very nice!!

would some one please kindly supply with fixed cab file

The T9 would be a great tool if it can be switch on and off! Especially when in hard keyboard mode....

Keyboard skins
Hi
Is there a way to make this fabulous keyboard (thanks to the autor of this thread) working with an azerty -or whatever- keyboard ?
Thanks in advance
Regards.
Edit: With Advanced Config Tool from schap's, you can set the default keyboard layout !

VOODOOS!L said:
has anyone already exported the HTC Touch Dual 'Image Viewer'?
looks very nice!!
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yes it is in this forum (look for htc album)

I luv this keyboard, but for what ever reason there apears to be an issue with contacts selection within pocket outlook.
Ie when you type in the first couple of letters of a contact in the mail To box, I used to be presented with a filtered list of contacts, for what ever reason this doesn't happen now.....not sure if anybody knows any reg edits of this funtion.
I'll post some screenshots when I get home

Does anyone know if it is possible to turn on Auto Correct again using slide-pot keyboard? As i installed this Auto Correct doesnt work, and it is ticked?

thank you
I am really happy to see this keyboard fix, For all foreigners in Japan who have this phone, touch dual or ht1100, this keyboard fix is AWESEOME, HTC released the touch phone here with a tiny little blue keyboard that could ony be used with a fine stylus, and made it impossible to use.
I been looking for this fix for a long time.
Thank you.

special character keys all off by one after hard reset???

Im using the RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3_1_.57.502.1_6275_1.48.00.00_108-ATT-MR3_Ship.exe WM6 install on my cingular 8525 and all has been well for months.
I was having problems with internal storage space and pie was acting funny so I decided just to do a hard reset and start fresh. All was well except a couple weird things. My E edge icon no longer had the animated arrow syncing thingamabob and more importantly the keyboard works fine but all the special characters seem to be mapped wrong. They are all off by one key (for instance the ! should be the W key but is now the Q key)
What happened? I tried a second hard reset and still the same problem. Im not able to do a computer assisted flash from work at the moment so Im not sure if that will resolve...

You may have to flash the Rom again, which would basically be hard resetting (I'm retarded) or go to a cooked one. If you use schap's make sure you select the Chinese keyboard since you're using cingular. He mixed up the Chinese and Cingular keyboard layouts.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
Different keyboard layouts for different Hermes versions
Issue: When applying a non-cingular ROM to an 8525 its default keyboard is different than the 8525.
The Fix:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=263177 (decimal)
this should fix it.

does the file "sym.0409.txt" in the windows folder exist?

hey thanks for the tips, I'll look for the file and check the reg asap
the thing is that Ive been using this rom for months without any issues. I also just upgraded to the latest official ATT rom and it didnt work either lol
what about the little arrows that animate from the E symbol that I used to have ?
I dont understand why I had these things after first flashing this rom and now they're gone lol

chipsxj said:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
Different keyboard layouts for different Hermes versions
Issue: When applying a non-cingular ROM to an 8525 its default keyboard is different than the 8525.
The Fix:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=263177 (decimal)
this should fix it.
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You RULE!!!!

I had a similar problem, and I had to go to the keyboard options, where you choose which keyboard you want to use, and there should be an option for what language you want your keyboard in. Yours is probably set to "English", and it should be set to "Cingular". I can't remember if this is in the default settings menu or if it's in my "advanced configuration" menu provided by my Schaps ROM.
But try it, I think it will fix ya.

AT&T Tilt 2 Keyboard???

Hi There-
Well, I managed to get one of the ROMs to install on the new Tilt 2 from AT&T but I have a small problem. I can't find a cab to fix the keyboard mapping problem. I found one for the tmobile version but no luck fixing the problem. So, I figured I would just flash back to the original ROM and wait for some folks to modify their ROMs to work with the Tilt 2 but now I can't find that either. Am I just not finding it in my searches or is it just not here yet.... any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!

Titl 2's just started landing in people's hands today. It's going to be a few more days until there is a cab released to fix it.

beufford12 said:
Hi There-
Well, I managed to get one of the ROMs to install on the new Tilt 2 from AT&T but I have a small problem. I can't find a cab to fix the keyboard mapping problem. I found one for the tmobile version but no luck fixing the problem. So, I figured I would just flash back to the original ROM and wait for some folks to modify their ROMs to work with the Tilt 2 but now I can't find that either. Am I just not finding it in my searches or is it just not here yet.... any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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How much is the keyboard screwed up? Is it still somewhat usable?

GermanGuy said:
How much is the keyboard screwed up? Is it still somewhat usable?
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It's not too bad, its in the format of the regular tp2. number keys on the top row and all that. Kind of nice to have actually,if I can memorize the keys quick enough I might leave it that way

I agree that it is kind of messed up. I bought a t-mo version, and I plan to sim unlock it and use it on att. I freaking LOVE this keyboard! I actually thought about checking eventually at htc part replacement stores to buy a stock keyboard, and physically changing the keyboard when I sell this one one and pick up a tilt2 (only b/c the t-mo can't pick up the att 3g frequencies).
Good luck finding your KB fix!
Jason

Toleraen said:
It's not too bad, its in the format of the regular tp2. number keys on the top row and all that. Kind of nice to have actually,if I can memorize the keys quick enough I might leave it that way
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Dude, the finger keyboard is good enough to last me a few days until one of the wizards on this board comes up with the registry update. I am so happy with this phone so far it's crazy. The improvements to Office alone are awesome.

EDIT:
CONFIRMED TO WORK.
it's usually as simple as a registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
update: scockman found one more key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\Keyboard LayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
if that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to play with it more when I actually get around to flashing my Tilt 2

Flash back to original ROM, export the keyboard settings using totalcommander or phm reg, then flash to custom rom, and import keyb settings.

i'm about to attach my .reg files from my stock tilt 2 rom. someone who has flashed their tilt 2 install them then soft reset and let us know what happens. also you might want to backup your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\ just to be on the safe side.
attachment below

noggind614 said:
i'm about to attach my .reg files from my stock tilt 2 rom. someone who has flashed their tilt 2 install them then soft reset and let us know what happens. also you might want to backup your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\ just to be on the safe side.
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Did not seem to work...will keep trying various combinations

l3it3r said:
it's usually as simple as a registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
if that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to play with it more when I actually get around to flashing my Tilt 2
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Woo Hoo!! That fixed my issue, these were missing from the ROM that I was using "EnergyROM".
There is one other registry that everyone may be missing that needs to be set:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
After these were set I did a reset and everything is working.

Do you mind if i ask how did you get a tilt 2? I checked the att site and it is only showing on the business side called att and they said its not availalbe yet?
thks
J

I'm an AT&T Dealer and placed an order for 1 and got it. The dealers that order 20-50 won't get their's for a while because there is not enough to go around.
* I'm currently using the energy rom and the keyboard is off somewhat like the original tilt was when it came out. The number keys are off and most of the top row keys as well. Someone suggested to flash back to the original ROM but silly me didn't back it up. I assumed it would be here. I think I'm just a little too much ahead. I will; however, try the registry fix and see if it fixes my problem. Thanks for all of the help guys...

I guess I am a little confused as to "what" actually fixed your layout problem? Did you have to put ALL of those registry entries in or just the ones you added to the message? Anyway someone could put that in a .cab?
thanks!

Tilt2 KB reg edits - mostly good
I can confirm that:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
helps...the OK key and others along bottom row are still not right but at least the FN and Caps are back to normal (using energyRom). an edit of the Cingular_US.txt should help. I'll try that in a bit.
Using Adv Config to set Cingular keyboard doesn't work...had to reg edit to use Cingular_US as indicated above.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\Keyboard LayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
I, too, wish i had saved Tilt2 keymap reg before my first flash.
Remember, takes both steps to get Tilt2 KB to 'normal'

Hey guys,
moved ya over to general...
peace,
Josh

beufford12 said:
I guess I am a little confused as to "what" actually fixed your layout problem? Did you have to put ALL of those registry entries in or just the ones you added to the message? Anyway someone could put that in a .cab?
thanks!
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Ditto can someone cab it up so I can continue to be lazy. Thanks

fire up Total commander, hit up the plugins --> registry, and then follow the structure to the specified containers. edit or add as needed.

I guess I'm confused because I can't seem to get the registry entries to work properly!

beufford12 said:
I guess I'm confused because I can't seem to get the registry entries to work properly!
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Here are all the relevant entries. Import them into your registry and reset.
Dot fred's registry editor makes it easier to just click and add registry settings.
And while I am at it, I attached the file to make hardSPL easy to run as well.

Tilt 2 keyboard help please!!

I installed the Energy 23016 ROM and I noticed that my keyboard layout is completely different for the physical keyboard!!
It thinks the physical keyboard is like the stock TP2 w/the number row on top!
Is there a cab that lets me reassign it so that it functions like the Tilt 2 keyboard?

Ky772 said:
I installed the Energy 23016 ROM and I noticed that my keyboard layout is completely different for the physical keyboard!!
It thinks the physical keyboard is like the stock TP2 w/the number row on top!
Is there a cab that lets me reassign it so that it functions like the Tilt 2 keyboard?
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It's been discussed a few times on here. I would start with the thread that you found the ROM in. I believe that he includes it in there.

Ky772 said:
I installed the Energy 23016 ROM and I noticed that my keyboard layout is completely different for the physical keyboard!!
It thinks the physical keyboard is like the stock TP2 w/the number row on top!
Is there a cab that lets me reassign it so that it functions like the Tilt 2 keyboard?
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Have you posted this question in the thread for that ROM?
If you had, you might have been directed to look in the FAQ (Post #6 for Manila 2.1 version) and used the .cab for the ATT phone -- assuming that's what you have (you didn't say)....but they wouldn't have told you as nicely as I did. ...but really, next time you might try to search a little -- at least in the thread where you got the rom.

ATT Tilt2 Full Hardware Keyboard Remap *BOUNTY*

I have tried all three cabs below with zero success! Yes, these cabs remap if that the letters on the hardware keyboard but do nothing for the top row and symbols in blue. I can live without remapping the OK key if thats such a feat but need all other keys at least to be mapped the way they are suppose to be, they way they look on the hardware keyboard. Im sure many other users here will agree with me on this and hopefully others will pitch in as well.
Just looking for a simple cab to install so when i flash a custom rom that i can have FULL use of my hardware keyboard on my att tilt2, no more and no less. I have no knowledge in this stuff or id do it myself rather then provide stickies of a cab that does only half the job!
Since half the keyboard is already remapped, i will start the donation/bounty at $10USD and will add more if this can be done quick. If there's multiple people in on creating this for the community then i will be sure everyone truly involved gets a fair share as well.
Im no techy, just an end user but don't see this task to be complete rocket science.

What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.

carhigh said:
What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.
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Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?

I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.

u921333 said:
I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.
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Are you saying the top row works fine and every blue symbol key in conjuction with the FN key works fine as well? What rom are you running? Makes no sense to me. Making me think i have one bunk device since ive tested this with a fresh flash without installing anything else.

deeznuts said:
Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?
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I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.

DuMnUt101 said:
I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.
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What rom are u using including build? I used the mort pacakge just as u described after a fresh flash of nrgs latest rom of build 23518 on wm6.5.3 standard sense 2.1 and nothing bro! Only keys that work right for me are the letter keys, comma, period, and question mark. Well FN, shift are also mapped correctly as well. Every key on the top row is numbers 1-0 and the blue symbol keys are all over the place! This is killing me!

No, you dont need to explain. I understood your post and as you can see, i am on a custom rom with the tilt 2 and all my buttons work perfect, except for the OK key. I also use the first cab in your OP. As for dialing, as pointed out by a respose here, have no clue if mine works that way. I use the onscreen dialer.
Something must be wrong with your phone!!!!

Im using NRGZ's Leo Rom the 21885 version from 12/31.... It could be an issue with the 23518 builds. The OK button has never worked but dont really need it. I would try it on a 21885 build and if it doesnt work it sounds like device specific. You also could flash a Stock Rom back on then back to a Custom one sometimes some of the previous system files arent removed correctly I have heard.

I have an att tilt 2 as well, and after flashing any rom other then att my keyboard is all wrong also, mainly the top row, and the Fn keys. Its pretty funny though without a remap, my shift key works as the FN key, and my OK key works as a shift key, which I find funny. But attached is the cab I always have used every time, and every key with the exception of the OK key works, I have tested this 1,000,000 times. If this cab doesnt work (Which I think could be the third cab in your list but not sure), then you have a bad keyboard.
I have used this cab with, the stock EU rom, nrgz roms, valkyrie's roms, Arks roms.

I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....

little hijack
Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!

pjm77 said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!
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Most people will think you are crazy, most tilt2 people want the standard tp2 keyboard. but to your question: since the ok button doesnt work, I mapped "OK" using keyboard config to be a CTRL button

blowy666 said:
I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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Is it the ATT keypad.dll? and you just open it with a text editor like notepad or something? I have been searching and it seems like that is what I should be looking for but I just want to make sure. Thanks in advance.

Sorry Deeznuts, but either you aren't explaining it right (which I think you are) or (more likely) there is something wrong. I have a Tilt 2\ATT and the keyboard fix cabs do work in every ROM I have installed. (With the exeption of only about three blue keys like the shortcut to mail or the internet.) There is either something wrong with your device or the ROM that you are using. I suggest you start over with a different ROM to test your keyboard, maybe use a stock ROM to be sure. There is also a prog called Rhodium Keyboard Control (RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.cab) that might be of use. Good luck.

I've been using the Tilt2HWKeyboard.cab and all the symbols and numbers work fine.
OK button does not work, sometimes it launches opera, other times i get error message with something about start.exe
FN+Left arrow (supposed to be calendar) Launches opera
FN+Down arrow (supposed to launch internet browser) does nothing
FN+Right arrow (supposed to turn on wifi) opens up comm manager.
I don't mind that those are off, but would prefer the OK button to work and also PTT button does not work at all.
I'm down to put in $10 as well to get a cab that has the full use of the HW keyboard + PTT button

blowy666 said:
I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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I was looking at that text files, and it appears to be mapped correctly, but the top row is still messed up for me and the blue function keys are not correct either.
Can you post how you modified the text file please?

Mine works fine. I used instructions from a certain thread. I first installed the Tilt2HWKeyboard cab. I then installed a cab called SdkCerts. Then I installed a cab called RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.

$20 for 1 single step install at&t tilt2 keyboard ALL BUTTONS MUST WORK INCLUDING PTT AND OK BUTTON I DONT CARE IF IS A MORT SCRIPT A CAB OR XML

Hes NOT CRAZY lol
I have the same exact issue. ive tried different cabs to no change except . ? , still sont know where the hell at symbol is... I GOT 10 usd for a working cab or a soloution where every key works as should...besides a stock re flash!
What apps are you running bro? Im running the apr8 nrg rom too. idk! dont make sense to me. but even when i ran stock rom keys would switch to this configuratio noccasionally in txt msging!
i would close all the way out of txt and open it back up and keys back to normal. Im seriously about burned out on hunting fixes for these damned phones, stock and otherwise. Ive owned every HTC w a slide keyboard that att offered since 8125 (wizard)
and played hunt and fix on every single one. seriously, what other product would u pay 400 plus dollars for and then spennd countless hours searching for fixes just to make it work properly