AT&T Tilt 2 Keyboard??? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi There-
Well, I managed to get one of the ROMs to install on the new Tilt 2 from AT&T but I have a small problem. I can't find a cab to fix the keyboard mapping problem. I found one for the tmobile version but no luck fixing the problem. So, I figured I would just flash back to the original ROM and wait for some folks to modify their ROMs to work with the Tilt 2 but now I can't find that either. Am I just not finding it in my searches or is it just not here yet.... any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!

Titl 2's just started landing in people's hands today. It's going to be a few more days until there is a cab released to fix it.

beufford12 said:
Hi There-
Well, I managed to get one of the ROMs to install on the new Tilt 2 from AT&T but I have a small problem. I can't find a cab to fix the keyboard mapping problem. I found one for the tmobile version but no luck fixing the problem. So, I figured I would just flash back to the original ROM and wait for some folks to modify their ROMs to work with the Tilt 2 but now I can't find that either. Am I just not finding it in my searches or is it just not here yet.... any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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How much is the keyboard screwed up? Is it still somewhat usable?

GermanGuy said:
How much is the keyboard screwed up? Is it still somewhat usable?
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It's not too bad, its in the format of the regular tp2. number keys on the top row and all that. Kind of nice to have actually,if I can memorize the keys quick enough I might leave it that way

I agree that it is kind of messed up. I bought a t-mo version, and I plan to sim unlock it and use it on att. I freaking LOVE this keyboard! I actually thought about checking eventually at htc part replacement stores to buy a stock keyboard, and physically changing the keyboard when I sell this one one and pick up a tilt2 (only b/c the t-mo can't pick up the att 3g frequencies).
Good luck finding your KB fix!
Jason

Toleraen said:
It's not too bad, its in the format of the regular tp2. number keys on the top row and all that. Kind of nice to have actually,if I can memorize the keys quick enough I might leave it that way
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Dude, the finger keyboard is good enough to last me a few days until one of the wizards on this board comes up with the registry update. I am so happy with this phone so far it's crazy. The improvements to Office alone are awesome.

EDIT:
CONFIRMED TO WORK.
it's usually as simple as a registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
update: scockman found one more key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\Keyboard LayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
if that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to play with it more when I actually get around to flashing my Tilt 2

Flash back to original ROM, export the keyboard settings using totalcommander or phm reg, then flash to custom rom, and import keyb settings.

i'm about to attach my .reg files from my stock tilt 2 rom. someone who has flashed their tilt 2 install them then soft reset and let us know what happens. also you might want to backup your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\ just to be on the safe side.
attachment below

noggind614 said:
i'm about to attach my .reg files from my stock tilt 2 rom. someone who has flashed their tilt 2 install them then soft reset and let us know what happens. also you might want to backup your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\ just to be on the safe side.
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Did not seem to work...will keep trying various combinations

l3it3r said:
it's usually as simple as a registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
if that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to play with it more when I actually get around to flashing my Tilt 2
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Woo Hoo!! That fixed my issue, these were missing from the ROM that I was using "EnergyROM".
There is one other registry that everyone may be missing that needs to be set:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
After these were set I did a reset and everything is working.

Do you mind if i ask how did you get a tilt 2? I checked the att site and it is only showing on the business side called att and they said its not availalbe yet?
thks
J

I'm an AT&T Dealer and placed an order for 1 and got it. The dealers that order 20-50 won't get their's for a while because there is not enough to go around.
* I'm currently using the energy rom and the keyboard is off somewhat like the original tilt was when it came out. The number keys are off and most of the top row keys as well. Someone suggested to flash back to the original ROM but silly me didn't back it up. I assumed it would be here. I think I'm just a little too much ahead. I will; however, try the registry fix and see if it fixes my problem. Thanks for all of the help guys...

I guess I am a little confused as to "what" actually fixed your layout problem? Did you have to put ALL of those registry entries in or just the ones you added to the message? Anyway someone could put that in a .cab?
thanks!

Tilt2 KB reg edits - mostly good
I can confirm that:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
helps...the OK key and others along bottom row are still not right but at least the FN and Caps are back to normal (using energyRom). an edit of the Cingular_US.txt should help. I'll try that in a bit.
Using Adv Config to set Cingular keyboard doesn't work...had to reg edit to use Cingular_US as indicated above.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\Keyboard LayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
I, too, wish i had saved Tilt2 keymap reg before my first flash.
Remember, takes both steps to get Tilt2 KB to 'normal'

Hey guys,
moved ya over to general...
peace,
Josh

beufford12 said:
I guess I am a little confused as to "what" actually fixed your layout problem? Did you have to put ALL of those registry entries in or just the ones you added to the message? Anyway someone could put that in a .cab?
thanks!
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Ditto can someone cab it up so I can continue to be lazy. Thanks

fire up Total commander, hit up the plugins --> registry, and then follow the structure to the specified containers. edit or add as needed.

I guess I'm confused because I can't seem to get the registry entries to work properly!

beufford12 said:
I guess I'm confused because I can't seem to get the registry entries to work properly!
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Here are all the relevant entries. Import them into your registry and reset.
Dot fred's registry editor makes it easier to just click and add registry settings.
And while I am at it, I attached the file to make hardSPL easy to run as well.

Related

Hermes Keyboard Map

I flashed to the htc release wm 6.1 but accidentally did a foreign version. I flashed it again with the US release and it works fine except the symbols E, D, X, W, S, Z, Q, and A are not working correctly. They input a different symbol.
I went to do the keyboard fix...
"Goto the following registry entry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
There is a key called 'Layout' and it is in Decimal.
The default value of English ROM is 20409, and Chinese ROM is 20404 (both are in hexadecimal)."
...and the value was already 132105 (20409 in decimal)
I went ahead and changed it to 132104 and then back to 132105 but it is still not working.
Is there such a program that would allow me to easily re-map the keyboard?
Any help is appreciated!
schaps advanced config 2
Thanks!
I ended up just finding this fix a little further down the page...
"Issue: When applying a non-cingular ROM to an 8525 its default keyboard is different than the 8525.
The Fix:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=263177 (decimal)"
...it works, but now the keyboard will not light up.
Is this an unrelated problem?
How do I fix it?
scfreshy said:
...it works, but now the keyboard will not light up.
Is this an unrelated problem?
How do I fix it?
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FIXED sorry for clutter!
The Fix:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=263177 (decimal)"
...it works, but now the keyboard will not light up.
Is this an unrelated problem?
How do I fix it?
No it doesn't fix the problem, any other place in the registry do you know....? Thank you!!
Apologies for jumping onto this thread, seems the best place really.
I've just bought a HTC Hermes, and it has WM 6.1 installed, using it on the Orange UK network.
My only problem is, when pressing ! I get @, and when pressing Y i get Z.
I've ensured all language and keyboard options are set to UK, however I just don't seem to be able to change the keyboard map to full UK, although physically the keyboard is correct, just not the SW side of things.
I was just wondering if someone could help me, if you let me know where I need to look, i'll be able to help you, just not used anything MS based for the past 4 years, so its a bit of a foreign object now.
Thank you,
Greeee said:
Apologies for jumping onto this thread, seems the best place really.
I've just bought a HTC Hermes, and it has WM 6.1 installed, using it on the Orange UK network.
My only problem is, when pressing ! I get @, and when pressing Y i get Z.
I've ensured all language and keyboard options are set to UK, however I just don't seem to be able to change the keyboard map to full UK, although physically the keyboard is correct, just not the SW side of things.
I was just wondering if someone could help me, if you let me know where I need to look, i'll be able to help you, just not used anything MS based for the past 4 years, so its a bit of a foreign object now.
Thank you,
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Good job and thank you in finding this thread and not opening up a new one
Anyhow, have you tried the latest Advance Config Tool v3.3? Try that version and see if it fixes you issue.
kareem9nba said:
Good job and thank you in finding this thread and not opening up a new one
Anyhow, have you tried the latest Advance Config Tool v3.3? Try that version and see if it fixes you issue.
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Hi there,
I'm actually new to Smartphones, and the Tytn / Hermes was going cheaply online (ebay unfortunately), but the phone itself is excellent and is easy to use from back in my windows days.
Most is familiar, but seeing how far Windows can go before I want to switch to Linux.
Where would I get the ACT? Is it downloadable from here as a development tool, or is it online needing payments etc?
Thank you,
greee, u can get it at schaps website here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070&highlight=advanced
galaxys,
I've downloaded the ACT, along with a pocket msn, and neither will install.
Do i need to put them somewhere for it to install correctly? Just i'm only getting access to my memory card.
Thank you,
Greeee said:
galaxys,
I've downloaded the ACT, along with a pocket msn, and neither will install.
Do i need to put them somewhere for it to install correctly? Just i'm only getting access to my memory card.
Thank you,
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Both should install on main memory.
Are you getting an error when the don't install?
So far kareem, i'm getting an XML output for the ACT, and for Pocket MSN it reports:
Setup Is Not a valid Pocket PC application.
With the ACT, i've no option to install, although the setup file I have was meant to be a cab file.
Thank you,
Scratch all that, got both PocketMSN and ACT installed today! For some reason the keyboard was in German, so switched that back!
Thanks guys!
Now got to find uber cool stuffs for my phone...
what's the value for an azerty keyboard

[SOLVED] Remove HTC Volume Control

Edit: See Post #7 for the solution!
This thread was originally posted with this title:
[REQ] Custom ROM without HTC volume control
Hello,
Does anyone have the time or inclination to make a ROM without the volume control? I only ask because I've so far found no way of disabling the program.
Basically I've discovered that the standard WM dialer is more responsive and more intuitive than the Diamond one while using about 8MB less memory. The problem is, the in-call volume won't work unless the HTCVolumeControl can be disabled or removed.
I'm going to follow up this request with a noob question - how easy is it to take an existing cooked ROM and remove applications?
Many thanks
Cooking a ROM without Volume control is easy. Just remove the DIAMOND Volume Control from your kitchen.
Many thanks for the reply! I don't currently have a kitchen.
If I were to find a chef who is willing to let others alter their work, how long would it take a novice to achieve?
Try VIC's ROM for example. Also take a look at: Cooking Guides for Ultimate Noobs.
Thanks again. I've had a look at VIC's ROM, looks good. I'll have a look at that guide when I have some spare time.
How much time would you guess it would take to do the job? I'm a complete noob but fairly quick learner.
Isn't there an option to disable this in one of the tweak progs, either schaps adv. config or diamond tweak, I'm sure one of the two can do this.
Davey101 said:
Hello,
Does anyone have the time or inclination to make a ROM without the volume control?
Many thanks
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What about a .cab that can remove it ? Only if you like it, I have attached it, and it WORKS
Good luck ^^
uniqueboy said:
Isn't there an option to disable this in one of the tweak progs, either schaps adv. config or diamond tweak, I'm sure one of the two can do this.
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This option does exist in Diamond Tweak but it doesn't work.
I've searched the forum and found a manual method that involves stopping a service called HTCVolume, however that service doesn't appear to exist in the latest ROMs. HTC must have changed something which would also explain Diamond Tweak not working.
danny_and_2 said:
What about a .cab that can remove it ? Only if you like it, I have attached it, and it WORKS
Good luck ^^
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Fantastic, thanks! I will try it later today!
Davey101 said:
This option does exist in Diamond Tweak but it doesn't work.
I've searched the forum and found a manual method that involves stopping a service called HTCVolume, however that service doesn't appear to exist in the latest ROMs. HTC must have changed something which would also explain Diamond Tweak not working.
Fantastic, thanks! I will try it later today!
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I have just tested it, and it works. But you said 8mb ram will be free ? I don't agree on that point. :/
It works, thanks!
danny_and_2 said:
I have just tested it, and it works. But you said 8mb ram will be free ? I don't agree on that point. :/
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For me, the 8MB free came when using the standard WM dialer rather than the HTC one. It's not as pretty but it does match my altered windows colour scheme. I'd rather have a phone that works properly than one that just looks nice - which is why I'm not using TouchFlo 3D either.
I would guess I'm getting an additional 1 or 2 MB with the volume control also gone.
Davey101 said:
It works, thanks!
For me, the 8MB free came when using the standard WM dialer rather than the HTC one. It's not as pretty but it does match my altered windows colour scheme. I'd rather have a phone that works properly than one that just looks nice - which is why I'm not using TouchFlo 3D either.
I would guess I'm getting an additional 1 or 2 MB with the volume control also gone.
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Oh, I can see that now .. Anyway, that's why I have customized mine, as hell ..
On a fresh boot I get 42%, with orginal touchflo 3d. But anyway, glad I could help you
It came back after a soft reset! What does the cab do?
Cheers
Davey101 said:
It came back after a soft reset! What does the cab do?
Cheers
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Strange, it's overwrite the existing files in the windows dic. I will try working some thing out..
Edit:
It works fine here, even with a soft reset.. :S
Thanks for your help!
Just remembered, I also ran a cleanup with SKTools, I suppose it is possible that caused it to revert. I'll have a play and see if I can recreate.
Davey101 said:
Thanks for your help!
Just remembered, I also ran a cleanup with SKTools, I suppose it is possible that caused it to revert. I'll have a play and see if I can recreate.
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No problem, hope you get it to work again
danny_and_2 said:
What about a .cab that can remove it ? Only if you like it, I have attached it, and it WORKS
Good luck ^^
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thanks! this has been driving me nuts! and nearly all the roms have htc volume built in for whatever reason
flashed my phone about 8 times in the last hour trying to find one without it built in and all my apps working
danny_and_2 said:
What about a .cab that can remove it ? Only if you like it, I have attached it, and it WORKS
Good luck ^^
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Seems the DLL?? messes up the font of the USB PopUp and SIP Selection screen Will try to cook a ROM without the VolumeControl to see if you can disable it without causing trouble to the fonts on the device..
I'm already using a ROM without the HTC Volume Control, Panosha Simple 1.1, so I don't need this cab anymore. It was invaluable before I switched ROMs!
I can confirm that the SIP selection text is already broken, without installing this cab. HTC must have relied on their dialer dll for the fonts on these other menu screens.
Davey101 said:
I'm already using a ROM without the HTC Volume Control, Panosha Simple 1.1, so I don't need this cab anymore. It was invaluable before I switched ROMs!
I can confirm that the SIP selection text is already broken, without installing this cab. HTC must have relied on their dialer dll for the fonts on these other menu screens.
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maybe its time for me to try that rom!
overnight the htc volume reappeared...although was all blank, reinstalling the cab fixed it, still wierd tho
stead said:
maybe its time for me to try that rom!
overnight the htc volume reappeared...although was all blank, reinstalling the cab fixed it, still wierd tho
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Not had that problem, except for the one time mentioned above which was caused by SKTools.
It's a very plain ROM - no Manila, Opera or even MMS! However, it suited my needs and I was able to track down all of the cabs I needed eventually.

TMOUS Keyboard Fix

I can't find anyone that has posted one yet, but I have made one for all you that have one and have the screwed alt key! The registry file is attached! It is not a hack at all. Just a registry export that worked!
Enjoy
edit//Cab added to post.
edit2//Also, just an FYI for everyone, the TMO keyboard has the GBP and Euro symbols on the hardware keyboard, it just wasn't put on the key itself. It is the same keys as the HTC version for them. alt+e = euro and alt+r = pound symbol.
edit3//Make sure HLKM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime\KeyboardLayouFiles shows et9.rhodium.wwe.txt. Otherwise, the layout will still be messed up.
I think this should get stickied for a few weeks
If necessary. I am sure it will stay alive for a bit since a lot of us have the TMO version.
To be fair though, you get some of the credit. Your suggestion in that other thread is what made me do it. It took me about 1 hour of poking around.
Can any onecab this up for easy install? That would rock, changing values to match though reg editor does not work!
Just use Task Manager to import it. It worked for me.
Cal-El said:
Can any onecab this up for easy install? That would rock, changing values to match though reg editor does not work!
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I'll cab it now and create a mortscript and include it in my ROM for now on. I t should save like 10000 posts
Cab created...
gehzumteufel said:
If necessary. I am sure it will stay alive for a bit since a lot of us have the TMO version.
To be fair though, you get some of the credit. Your suggestion in that other thread is what made me do it. It took me about 1 hour of poking around.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of modding your phone
Thanks but you are the one who did it.
Thanks! I have never used/done that type of stuff. I am just happy to be able to contribute finally.
Wow, I posted about this problem today and now their is a fix to it. You guys work fast and I didn't even get a chance to get use to the ctrl key that sub for the alt key.
Good looks!!!
EDIT: Confirming that it works! ....don't forget to reset because it won't work if you don't.
so what exactly is the problem with the tmobile us alt key anyway? i just got my tp2 yesterday and haven't really noticed a problem with it?
This is only an issue for people with cooked roms.
At0mAng said:
I'll cab it now and create a mortscript and include it in my ROM for now on. I t should save like 10000 posts
Cab created...
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WOW~~ that worked. sweet!!
thanks again!!
Well my Rom is stock but I'll be sure to remember this if I flash a new one.
This fixes the alt key, for sure. But what about the shortcuts on the arrows? Those are still incorrect, for me. Is this a separate problem? I assumed it should be related, due to the fact that the shortcuts on the unlocked devices are different than the T-Mobile shortcuts.
gehzumteufel said:
This is only an issue for people with cooked roms.
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The HSPL is out, now? We can now install cooked ROMs on the TP2? How did I miss this?
Yep, HSPL is out now. haha
Thread stuck whilst the topic is hot
Dave
Thanks Dave!
what exactly does this fix ?
my ctrl button doesn't function at all but I thought it's due to the PDAC hebrew support I have.
also FN+SYM doesn't ddo anything.
my TP2 is unbranded.
Tourist! said:
what exactly does this fix ?
my ctrl button doesn't function at all but I thought it's due to the PDAC hebrew support I have.
also FN+SYM doesn't ddo anything.
my TP2 is unbranded.
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As noted by the thread title, this ONLY applies to the TMO (T-Mobile) US branded TP2. It applies to NO other branded or unbranded TP2 devices. It fixes the keyboard layout changes that were implemented on the TMOUS TP2. The Alt, ctrl, and a few other keys had some changes.
To fix your keyboard, flash back to the original rom, export the same reg key that is in the first post, and then apply that to the newly flashed rom.

AT&T Tilt2 Bloatware

AT&T, in their typical way, pre-loaded the Tilt2 with tons of garbage bloatware. Free RAM is patheticly low, as is the roughly 100MB of storage space....
Is it possible to go about deleting stuff thats pre-installed, or is that going to require flashing a custom ROM?
Are there any ROM's available yet which keep all the critical components but remove all the garbage stuff so a user can choose to reinstall only what he wants via cab?
I sympathize with you on that. I couldn't take not being able to have more than 2 programs open without the task manager killing them. I ended up flashing to the latest NRG rom. The 2 tab opera limit was insane too.
I must say that the frustrations with doing this now include some keyboard functionality lost and the loss of the good ATT software. For instance, I can't download the ATT WiFi Hotspot software because I lost my ATT Media Mall.
Are you by chance able to post your opera proxy settings. I can try and grab the cab once I have these settings and share it with the forum.
Easiest way is to find opera.config or opera.ini and see if the settings are in there and copy to the forum. Also found if you type in opera:config in your address bar and look under proxy.
Got these settings from a FUZE forum post:
[Proxy]
Use Proxy On Local Names Check=1
HTTP Server=wireless.cingular.com
HTTPS server=wireless.cingular.com
Use HTTP=1
Use HTTPS=1
Enable HTTP 1.1 for proxy=1
Seems to have done the trick. I'll upload the ATT Wifi Cab tonight when I'm home.
Yea, I've also gone to the NRG ROM.... SO MUCH faster and so much more free RAM & ROM its insane.
its a real shame ATT loads so much junk on the phone. I know all carriers love to do that, but it just seems like the Tilt2 is particularly polluted with crapware.
Anyhow, now I'm happy...
I sure miss AT&T
Just got my TP2 a few days ago and loaded the NRG Photon rom yesterday... Soo much faster than the AT&T rom... I did forget about the AT&T Wifi software though... There anyway to get that software back? Anyone have the cabs? Just fyi, there's an AT&T Keyboard fix cab out there now, just doesn't map the OK button...
rkub said:
Just got my TP2 a few days ago and loaded the NRG Photon rom yesterday... Soo much faster than the AT&T rom... I did forget about the AT&T Wifi software though... There anyway to get that software back? Anyone have the cabs? Just fyi, there's an AT&T Keyboard fix cab out there now, just doesn't map the OK button...
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had to jump through some hoops to get it downloaded, I attached the cab in this post;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4748989&postcount=6
I have installed it, but haven't actually tried it out yet at a hotspot.
For you folks that installed the NRG rom: Did you find a keyboard .cab for the Tilt2 that is 100%?
The existing keyboard cab fixes 98% of the issue.
The two buttons that dont map correctly are
1) OK button on the keyboard
2) PTT buton (below the volume on the side)
Both can be fixed by using Keyboard Config controller (do a search). I've been able to remap the PPT button, just waiting on someone to explain what to map the OK button to.
So ya, its a 2-step process but it can be 100% correctly functioning with the NRG or any other custom rom
I will be getting Tilt 2 & selling in Dec 1st week
Anyone who Dont want to Pay Full price can buy from me for Cheaper
Cos I will be buying HD 2
If anyone Interested
rajuabju said:
The existing keyboard cab fixes 98% of the issue.
The two buttons that dont map correctly are
1) OK button on the keyboard
2) PTT buton (below the volume on the side)
Both can be fixed by using Keyboard Config controller (do a search). I've been able to remap the PPT button, just waiting on someone to explain what to map the OK button to.
So ya, its a 2-step process but it can be 100% correctly functioning with the NRG or any other custom rom
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I also used Keybaord Config to remap thoses buttons but I remapped ok to ctrl so I could do copy and paste.
areilly said:
had to jump through some hoops to get it downloaded, I attached the cab in this post;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4748989&postcount=6
I have installed it, but haven't actually tried it out yet at a hotspot.
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Thanks for the cab areilly, haven't been able to try it out yet, but will let you know if it works when I do...
ilordvader said:
I will be getting Tilt 2 & selling in Dec 1st week
Anyone who Dont want to Pay Full price can buy from me for Cheaper
Cos I will be buying HD 2
If anyone Interested
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How much cheaper?
rajuabju said:
The existing keyboard cab fixes 98% of the issue.
The two buttons that dont map correctly are
1) OK button on the keyboard
2) PTT buton (below the volume on the side)
Both can be fixed by using Keyboard Config controller (do a search). I've been able to remap the PPT button, just waiting on someone to explain what to map the OK button to.
So ya, its a 2-step process but it can be 100% correctly functioning with the NRG or any other custom rom
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I remember reading somewhere else that people were mapping the OK button to some command like "Go Back" which some felt was the closest approximation to the OK button. As for the PTT button, a lot of people (including myself on the stock ROM) have mapped to the camera.
pinoymutt said:
I remember reading somewhere else that people were mapping the OK button to some command like "Go Back" which some felt was the closest approximation to the OK button. As for the PTT button, a lot of people (including myself on the stock ROM) have mapped to the camera.
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I mapped my PTT to screen rotate.
I'm finding that even with the latest cab, you still have to remap your bottom row function shortcuts. However, the biggest bother is that on the unlock screen and certain other applications, the top row is still read as the default TP2 number row. Perhaps we're still missing some settings.
thedon0369 said:
I mapped my PTT to screen rotate.
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I did this myself at one point, but then had to do a hard reset. Now I don't have screen rotation as an option in the Settings -> Personal -> Buttons dialog, and I can't remember what I might have done to enable it. Help! (please)
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OK, either I'm blind or I did something, 'cause now the option is there.
i found a solution for the "ok" key..
you map the "ok" key first for anything on the Keyboard control/config program, update config, then uncheck the box and update again...
THEN, download AEB button Plus and install that, press add new key, press the ok key, and map that to "ok/close"... soft reset, and you're good to go, just dont mess with "ok" button on keyboard control program and you're good to go...
i also mapped long press on the "ok" key to open notes,
okay, folks, we're in business. a very kind soul named pyromosh has written software named Crud Scraper - automatic uninstaller. it does all the work for you. here's the link:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
ruxp1n said:
okay, folks, we're in business. a very kind soul named pyromosh has written software named Crud Scraper - automatic uninstaller. it does all the work for you. here's the link:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
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Yes Crud scraper works very good
here is the active link forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
and here is a page of all the Crapware and what it does how big and how to manaully remove it - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software

ringtone limit on tilt 2

hey guys. i was wondering if anyone knows of a file or registry hack to bypass the ringtone limit on the tilt 2? thanks so much for the help .
limit?
what limit?
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what limit?
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FileSizeLimit
How odd that I asked almost the exact same question 2 hrs earlier
Anyone solve ringtone file size limit? Or I need a good pager solution!
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I really need to be able to play an extended ringtone and it seems the Blackjack II had a registry tweak to handle this. That tweak doesn't work on our TP2s tho.
I am honestly surprised more folks haven't inquired about this.
do a search on this forum for "NoRingToneLimit" - it is .cab file and it works.
I searched the forum and did not find any hits, so I did an advanced search which took me to the archives.
There is a reference to a fix for 6.1:
mikefordmustang.com/downloads/NoRingtoneLimit.cab
Can anyone confirm this works for 6.5?
Found this as well but I haven't tried it personally. Seems easy enough to test though if you want to give it a go.
- Go into HKEY_Current User > ControlPanel > Sounds
- Delete the key of FileSizeLimit
- Done, You should now be able to set any MP3 as your ringtone.
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That is the same tweak I found on a google search that was said to work for the Blackjack II. There is no such entry for WM 6.5 on my gsm TP2.
I did add the entry, using a larger value, and it did not work for me.
camell0ndosequis said:
I searched the forum and did not find any hits, so I did an advanced search which took me to the archives.
There is a reference to a fix for 6.1:
mikefordmustang.com/downloads/NoRingtoneLimit.cab
Can anyone confirm this works for 6.5?
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I tested this on my gsm TP2 on WM 6.5 and does not work. It will only play 20 seconds of a lengthy mp3 file on local memory. Still looking for a tweak/fix!!
camell0ndosequis said:
That is the same tweak I found on a google search that was said to work for the Blackjack II. There is no such entry for WM 6.5 on my gsm TP2.
I did add the entry, using a larger value, and it did not work for me.
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You might have already tried this, but did you search your registry to see if that key existed in some other location maybe? I have 6.1 or I'd go look myself...
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You might have already tried this, but did you search your registry to see if that key existed in some other location maybe? I have 6.1 or I'd go look myself...
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You know, I did do a search, but it just occurred to me that I searched for files, not strings within the registry.
I am going to do a search on both FileSizeLimit and NoRingToneLimit as strings and see what it comes up with. Total Commander is proving to be invaluable right about now!
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You know, I did do a search, but it just occurred to me that I searched for files, not strings within the registry.
I am going to do a search on both FileSizeLimit and NoRingToneLimit as strings and see what it comes up with. Total Commander is proving to be invaluable right about now!
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I do like TC and can't deny its swissarmyknife-like utility, but for when I just want to zip around in the registry, I like the look/feel of PHM_regedit better.
thx for the tip! i'll look into that ..
Use ceregeditor and browse your phone registry form your computer making it 100 times easier.
so I grabbed ceregeditor and yes indeed, it makes it sooo much easier to search/edit registry entries.
so ... my findings:
Installing NoRingtoneLimit.cab did put an entry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds:FileSizeLimit
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The default Value Data was set to 0 .. this did not work.
I increased the value to a high # .. i saw 10487200 as a possible value when I found the blackjack ii tweaks .. that too did not work.
Im guessing everything Im doing works just fine for WM 6.1 .. but nobody has figured out why it doesnt for 6.5. I hope there are others out there with more insight into this. I really dont want to go back to my old phone when I go OnCall this weekend!
camell0ndosequis said:
I searched the forum and did not find any hits, so I did an advanced search which took me to the archives.
There is a reference to a fix for 6.1:
mikefordmustang.com/downloads/NoRingtoneLimit.cab
Can anyone confirm this works for 6.5?
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It works on my AT&T Tilt 2 with 6.5 - Have Hallelujah Chorus (eleven minutes) as a ringtone.
well now i'm bummed even more!
i am going to uninstall the .cab .. reset .. and then re-install .. and reset to see what happens.
iv'e tried different things to come up with a solution and nothing appears to be taking: repeat notifications, filesizelimit, notificationlayoutnew.dll ... i get zilch on each!
wow .. 11mins!
well i am just so frickin' dissapointed in this thing now. i just cant fathom as to why a GSM model would be that much different than an ATT Tilt2.
I guess perhaps using one of the many available ROMs on this site could help? Any advice, anyone?
And that made all the difference!
It finally works!
I knew there had to be something weird about my setup that was causing this not to work for me. I was timing the length of the ringtone and while the longest was at 20 seconds, there were times when it was a little as 10.
I started thinking that perhaps something was intercepting or disturbing the process that killed the ringtone. I never thought to uncheck DISPLAY MESSAGE ON SCREEN.
This is what made the difference. Once the txt message screen timed out and disappeared, the ringtone died as well. Unchecking it allowed the ringtone/vibration to play fully. WHEW! I swear, of all the things to check last ... when will I ever learn!
camell0ndosequis said:
It finally works!
I knew there had to be something weird about my setup that was causing this not to work for me. I was timing the length of the ringtone and while the longest was at 20 seconds, there were times when it was a little as 10.
I started thinking that perhaps something was intercepting or disturbing the process that killed the ringtone. I never thought to uncheck DISPLAY MESSAGE ON SCREEN.
This is what made the difference. Once the txt message screen timed out and disappeared, the ringtone died as well. Unchecking it allowed the ringtone/vibration to play fully. WHEW! I swear, of all the things to check last ... when will I ever learn!
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Hahaha congrats! I was trying to figure out what the heck could still be keeping you from playing them properly, and I honestly wouldn't have thought of that either! I bet this will lead to a lot of "a-HA!"s in RhodiumTown tonight! lol

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