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XT9 predictive Input

Does anyone have any idea how to turn this off? it is the most annoying think...

Nevermind, I got it. Alt+Space lets you switch to ABC mode on a per application basis.

Disable XT9 Permanently!
WM5 ONLY, YOU WILL LOSE CAPS!
To Disable XT9 change the following registry key to:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KbdDlls\000109FF=kdbhid.dll
NO MORE XT9 at all.

Would be great... if it worked... just tried your changing the registry entry as you described, rebooted, went in to my note app -- created a new note -- started typing, and, up came that damn annoying T9.

I like XT9. It seems to remember everything I type which saves loads of time.

I really liked T9 on my SDA, but don't like XT9 -- really don't like that you can't just shut it off completely and use it as needed. Always comes back.
indiekiduk said:
I like XT9. It seems to remember everything I type which saves loads of time.
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It worked!
That registry thing worked for me. No more XT9....at all.

How do I ACTIVATE XT9 on my HTC S620 ?? Seems only the Dopod 720 & T-Mobile Dash have XT9, but they are the same phones, made by HTC ?? Thanks, kampsy

lucky you... wish it worked for me.
lysine said:
That registry thing worked for me. No more XT9....at all.
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Carriers add thier own stuff to devices they bring to market -- T-Mobile added xT9 to the Dash, HTC didn't. It's not something you can purchase.
kampsy said:
How do I ACTIVATE XT9 on my HTC S620 ?? Seems only the Dopod 720 & T-Mobile Dash have XT9, but they are the same phones, made by HTC ?? Thanks, kampsy
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search for xt9 cab.
pretty sure i saw that someone figured out how to add it.
don't see why anyone would though.

mar11974 said:
To Disable XT9 change the following registry key to:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KbdDlls\000109FF=kdbhid.dll
NO MORE XT9 at all.
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are you willing to make a cab, please?

mar11974 said:
To Disable XT9 change the following registry key to:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME\KbdDlls\000109FF=kdbhid.dll
NO MORE XT9 at all.
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This worked for me, but it's killed my CAPS key. I can't use it to capitalize any letters. Any ideas? Thanks.

Did the same to my device. Wow -- great tweak whoever posted that, did't get rid of my xT9 and trashed capital letters. Sort of like a manually-entered virus. Anyone recall what was in the resistry before the change was made?
monakh said:
This worked for me, but it's killed my CAPS key. I can't use it to capitalize any letters. Any ideas? Thanks.
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chaznet said:
Did the same to my device. Wow -- great tweak whoever posted that, didn't get rid of my xT9 and trashed capital letters. Sort of like a manually-entered virus. Anyone recall what was in the registry before the change was made?
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Yeah it REALLY sucks, I hope the poster was aware of this little 'tweak' before s/he suggested it. More importantly, I hope he or she used it on their own before recommending it. I am real annoyed by this result but it serves me right for not taking anything here with a grain of salt. Things have changed a lot in the last couple of years.
I guess, I will just wait for the official T-Mo WM6 ROM for the Dash to get rid of this nagging issue. Whatever.

on WM6 if you turn it off in one app it turns it off for them all and then stays off if you reboot. Its Beautiful!

WM5 ONLY
WM5 only, WM6 doesn't have the same issue or settings, but I'm sure WM6 users know that already. Yes, tested it on my Dash and yes you lose caps, but if XT9 is so annoying, so what. BACKUP BEFORE YOU TRY ANYTHING POSTED ON A DEVELOPERS FORUM, OTHERWISE WAIT FOR THE MANUFACTURER OR CARRIER TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES! What have you contibuted to improve or correct any thing in this forum anyways?

Looking back, I see it was you who posted this little bug. Would've been nice if you posted something along the lines of 'the registry should say 'A', change it to 'B' so we could at least put it back. Yes, we should've backed our registries up first, but this looked like such an inviting little tweak. Who knew it was useles because:
A) It doesn't turn off xT9
B) It disables the ability to use capital letters
Oddly enough, when xT9 is active (which shouldn't be possible according to you) words that are remembered with capital letters are now the 1 and only way I can get a capital letter.
The other poster is right, WM6 is around the corner, might just as well wait until then to fix your 'helpful tweak'.
And, um, you consider this a contribution?
mar11974 said:
WM5 only, WM6 doesn't have the same issue or settings, but I'm sure WM6 users know that already. Yes, tested it on my Dash and yes you lose caps, but if XT9 is so annoying, so what. BACKUP BEFORE YOU TRY ANYTHING POSTED ON A DEVELOPERS FORUM, OTHERWISE WAIT FOR THE MANUFACTURER OR CARRIER TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES! What have you contibuted to improve or correct any thing in this forum anyways?
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chaznet said:
Looking back, I see it was you who posted this little bug. Would've been nice if you posted something along the lines of 'the registry should say 'A', change it to 'B' so we could at least put it back. Yes, we should've backed our registries up first, but this looked like such an inviting little tweak. Who knew it was useles because:
A) It doesn't turn off xT9
B) It disables the ability to use capital letters
Oddly enough, when xT9 is active (which shouldn't be possible according to you) words that are remembered with capital letters are now the 1 and only way I can get a capital letter.
The other poster is right, WM6 is around the corner, might just as well wait until then to fix your 'helpful tweak'.
And, um, you consider this a contribution?
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It's a contribution because he was trying. It's not his fault it also does something else. And it obviously works for some people, they're even saying so. So don't jump down someone's throat cause he was just putting out an idea. Back up your files, or do what I, and everyone should do, write down what it is you're changing so you can change it back.

Did you make this registry change? If not, what is your registry entry? If you did, apparently you were smart and wrote it down? What was it before you made the change?
Now that would be a contribution
oplitic said:
It's a contribution because he was trying. It's not his fault it also does something else. And it obviously works for some people, they're even saying so. So don't jump down someone's throat cause he was just putting out an idea. Back up your files, or do what I, and everyone should do, write down what it is you're changing so you can change it back.
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WM6 Beta - My thoughts

I installed WM6 last night after CID unlocking my s620 hoping for the excitement that i had when had my HTC Wizard upgraded to PDA VIET's cooked ROM of WM6. I wasn't impressed enough to keep it, so i would like to highlight what i had found, which might repeat what others already know.
WM6 Beta Pros:
1. It is faster, it feels faster
2. New Microsoft Word, Excel edit capabilities
3. Press and hold the key and you will get the symbols instead of pushing the FN key to create !#$% symbols for example
4. All the other frills of WM6
WM6 Beta cons:
1. Because this is a T-Mobile ROM, and I am using it for Rogers, the additional customization for T-mobile is useless to me
2. The joggr has to be reset to use it as scroll instead of the volume function that the DASH uses - Reg edit will fix this
3. For some reason, as noted in another thread, the keyboard search from the home screen doesnt work right. Instead it acts like a phone keypad. For example searching for a name to call - key 2 acts like ABC insetead of E!!
4. SNAPIN issue - will send SMS messages to the UK, costs you international monies - fix is to delete the folder
5. Incompatibilities with Blackberry connect
I went back to WM5 and I will wait for a newer or cooked rom of this. ITs not worth it to me to flip to WM6. Being that i was using WM6 for a long time on my HTC wizard, this version of WM6 is way more inferior on the DASH/s620 than when it was put togetehr for the wizard.
My recommendation is to wait for another release.

While your PROS are legit, I have to disagree with your CONS.
All of the CONS you list are easily fixed with the exception of 3 and 5. Many don't use Blackberry and #3 is one small inconvenience for a leaked ROM IMHO. When you compare it to having Word, Excel, and Power Point, it's a good trade off. #4 is still not entirely fixed by deleting that folder. On Cingular I still get the junk text message when booting my phone. THIS is what ruined it for me. Since I don't know what's causing it, I don't fully trust it.
I also went back to WM5 to be fair. The s620 FW is stable as hell and very fast. I wouldn't use the standard T-Mobile WM6 ROM once it's released due to the crap they are putting on it. I'll wait for a generic like Dopod or HTC before I upgrade again.
Man I liked the native Word and Excel support. I can't wait...
-Mc

To solve the blackberry connect problem check out this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294218&highlight=blackberry+connect

Actually you ahve very valid points, and i agree the stock 405.4 ROM on the S620 is super fast. This is the way i see it.
HTC Wizard
WM5 cooked rom to WM6 cooked rom ==> HUGE IMPROVEMENT
HTC S620
WM5 stock 405.4 rom to WM6 beta ==> Minimal improvement.
THis thread was just to warn that its not really worth a great deal to switch from an already great ROM.
McHale said:
While your PROS are legit, I have to disagree with your CONS.
All of the CONS you list are easily fixed with the exception of 3 and 5. Many don't use Blackberry and #3 is one small inconvenience for a leaked ROM IMHO. When you compare it to having Word, Excel, and Power Point, it's a good trade off. #4 is still not entirely fixed by deleting that folder. On Cingular I still get the junk text message when booting my phone. THIS is what ruined it for me. Since I don't know what's causing it, I don't fully trust it.
I also went back to WM5 to be fair. The s620 FW is stable as hell and very fast. I wouldn't use the standard T-Mobile WM6 ROM once it's released due to the crap they are putting on it. I'll wait for a generic like Dopod or HTC before I upgrade again.
Man I liked the native Word and Excel support. I can't wait...
-Mc
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nice summary. i'm going to wait for a nice cooked rom or offical one being installing it.

if it weren't for the SMS issue, I'd have stuck with it. I really liked the HTML email and the office apps.
But the official ROM is only a month or so away. If HTC releases this for the s620, it will be a great ROM...
I'm waiting for the official...
-Mc

hi, i upgraded to wm6 and went back. i did not like the rom much.
office ? u can get documento 2 go which are batter.
keypad problems - are confusing
and txt problem to uk although i am in uk
i am waiting for official relese or cooked wm6 rom
cudo

cudo said:
hi, i upgraded to wm6 and went back. i did not like the rom much.
office ? u can get documento 2 go which are batter.
keypad problems - are confusing
and txt problem to uk although i am in uk
i am waiting for official relese or cooked wm6 rom
cudo
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There are easy workarounds for the keypad, and Doc2Go doesn't allow you to edit Office docs (does it?).

of course it does. but office in wm6 does not allow to create new docs.
cudo

cudo said:
of course it does. but office in wm6 does not allow to create new docs.
cudo
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Just create a template and do a "Save As".

T-Will said:
Just create a template and do a "Save As".
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yup , but there is no "creat new" , which is stupid. and doc2go is better anyway , ever tried ? more functions, settings etc.
cudo

T-Will said:
There are easy workarounds for the keypad, and Doc2Go doesn't allow you to edit Office docs (does it?).
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What are the work arounds?

just wondering something, in the wm6 office word, is there a bullets option?

kmattoo said:
What are the work arounds?
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What he said. What are the work arounds for the keypad?

minirx7 said:
What he said. What are the work arounds for the keypad?
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Yes, please, for the love of God tell us the workaround!

i believe the workaround is to hold down on the keypad and let it cycle through the letters. it really doesn't take very long to get to the letter you need.
not a big deal imo.

Docs To Go is laggy IMHO on my Dash running WM5.
JAmerican

lafester said:
i believe the workaround is to hold down on the keypad and let it cycle through the letters. it really doesn't take very long to get to the letter you need.
not a big deal imo.
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This is not the workaround. For example, we don't want the "4/s" key to represent "I,H,G". This key should just represent "s". This is what a QWERTY keypad is meant for (among other things)!

christophsky said:
This is not the workaround. For example, we don't want the "4/s" key to represent "I,H,G". This key should just represent "s". This is what a QWERTY keypad is meant for (among other things)!
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I can almost guarantee this will be fixed in the final version. It appears to be an implementation issue. I bet you a reg edit will fix this.. Anybody know where to find the reg edit key?

minirx7 said:
3. Press and hold the key and you will get the symbols instead of pushing the FN key to create !#$% symbols for example
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I guess this may differ since you don't have T-Mobile, but that functionality already exists in my Dash, Windows Mobile 5. I bought it 3 days ago and saw that tip on a site. It definitely helps not having to press the Alt key.

Hermes Keyboard Map

I flashed to the htc release wm 6.1 but accidentally did a foreign version. I flashed it again with the US release and it works fine except the symbols E, D, X, W, S, Z, Q, and A are not working correctly. They input a different symbol.
I went to do the keyboard fix...
"Goto the following registry entry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
There is a key called 'Layout' and it is in Decimal.
The default value of English ROM is 20409, and Chinese ROM is 20404 (both are in hexadecimal)."
...and the value was already 132105 (20409 in decimal)
I went ahead and changed it to 132104 and then back to 132105 but it is still not working.
Is there such a program that would allow me to easily re-map the keyboard?
Any help is appreciated!

schaps advanced config 2

Thanks!
I ended up just finding this fix a little further down the page...
"Issue: When applying a non-cingular ROM to an 8525 its default keyboard is different than the 8525.
The Fix:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=263177 (decimal)"
...it works, but now the keyboard will not light up.
Is this an unrelated problem?
How do I fix it?

scfreshy said:
...it works, but now the keyboard will not light up.
Is this an unrelated problem?
How do I fix it?
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FIXED sorry for clutter!

The Fix:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]
"Layout"=263177 (decimal)"
...it works, but now the keyboard will not light up.
Is this an unrelated problem?
How do I fix it?
No it doesn't fix the problem, any other place in the registry do you know....? Thank you!!

Apologies for jumping onto this thread, seems the best place really.
I've just bought a HTC Hermes, and it has WM 6.1 installed, using it on the Orange UK network.
My only problem is, when pressing ! I get @, and when pressing Y i get Z.
I've ensured all language and keyboard options are set to UK, however I just don't seem to be able to change the keyboard map to full UK, although physically the keyboard is correct, just not the SW side of things.
I was just wondering if someone could help me, if you let me know where I need to look, i'll be able to help you, just not used anything MS based for the past 4 years, so its a bit of a foreign object now.
Thank you,

Greeee said:
Apologies for jumping onto this thread, seems the best place really.
I've just bought a HTC Hermes, and it has WM 6.1 installed, using it on the Orange UK network.
My only problem is, when pressing ! I get @, and when pressing Y i get Z.
I've ensured all language and keyboard options are set to UK, however I just don't seem to be able to change the keyboard map to full UK, although physically the keyboard is correct, just not the SW side of things.
I was just wondering if someone could help me, if you let me know where I need to look, i'll be able to help you, just not used anything MS based for the past 4 years, so its a bit of a foreign object now.
Thank you,
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Good job and thank you in finding this thread and not opening up a new one
Anyhow, have you tried the latest Advance Config Tool v3.3? Try that version and see if it fixes you issue.

kareem9nba said:
Good job and thank you in finding this thread and not opening up a new one
Anyhow, have you tried the latest Advance Config Tool v3.3? Try that version and see if it fixes you issue.
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Hi there,
I'm actually new to Smartphones, and the Tytn / Hermes was going cheaply online (ebay unfortunately), but the phone itself is excellent and is easy to use from back in my windows days.
Most is familiar, but seeing how far Windows can go before I want to switch to Linux.
Where would I get the ACT? Is it downloadable from here as a development tool, or is it online needing payments etc?
Thank you,

greee, u can get it at schaps website here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070&highlight=advanced

galaxys,
I've downloaded the ACT, along with a pocket msn, and neither will install.
Do i need to put them somewhere for it to install correctly? Just i'm only getting access to my memory card.
Thank you,

Greeee said:
galaxys,
I've downloaded the ACT, along with a pocket msn, and neither will install.
Do i need to put them somewhere for it to install correctly? Just i'm only getting access to my memory card.
Thank you,
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Both should install on main memory.
Are you getting an error when the don't install?

So far kareem, i'm getting an XML output for the ACT, and for Pocket MSN it reports:
Setup Is Not a valid Pocket PC application.
With the ACT, i've no option to install, although the setup file I have was meant to be a cab file.
Thank you,

Scratch all that, got both PocketMSN and ACT installed today! For some reason the keyboard was in German, so switched that back!
Thanks guys!
Now got to find uber cool stuffs for my phone...

what's the value for an azerty keyboard

AT&T Tilt 2 Keyboard???

Hi There-
Well, I managed to get one of the ROMs to install on the new Tilt 2 from AT&T but I have a small problem. I can't find a cab to fix the keyboard mapping problem. I found one for the tmobile version but no luck fixing the problem. So, I figured I would just flash back to the original ROM and wait for some folks to modify their ROMs to work with the Tilt 2 but now I can't find that either. Am I just not finding it in my searches or is it just not here yet.... any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!

Titl 2's just started landing in people's hands today. It's going to be a few more days until there is a cab released to fix it.

beufford12 said:
Hi There-
Well, I managed to get one of the ROMs to install on the new Tilt 2 from AT&T but I have a small problem. I can't find a cab to fix the keyboard mapping problem. I found one for the tmobile version but no luck fixing the problem. So, I figured I would just flash back to the original ROM and wait for some folks to modify their ROMs to work with the Tilt 2 but now I can't find that either. Am I just not finding it in my searches or is it just not here yet.... any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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How much is the keyboard screwed up? Is it still somewhat usable?

GermanGuy said:
How much is the keyboard screwed up? Is it still somewhat usable?
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It's not too bad, its in the format of the regular tp2. number keys on the top row and all that. Kind of nice to have actually,if I can memorize the keys quick enough I might leave it that way

I agree that it is kind of messed up. I bought a t-mo version, and I plan to sim unlock it and use it on att. I freaking LOVE this keyboard! I actually thought about checking eventually at htc part replacement stores to buy a stock keyboard, and physically changing the keyboard when I sell this one one and pick up a tilt2 (only b/c the t-mo can't pick up the att 3g frequencies).
Good luck finding your KB fix!
Jason

Toleraen said:
It's not too bad, its in the format of the regular tp2. number keys on the top row and all that. Kind of nice to have actually,if I can memorize the keys quick enough I might leave it that way
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Dude, the finger keyboard is good enough to last me a few days until one of the wizards on this board comes up with the registry update. I am so happy with this phone so far it's crazy. The improvements to Office alone are awesome.

EDIT:
CONFIRMED TO WORK.
it's usually as simple as a registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
update: scockman found one more key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\Keyboard LayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
if that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to play with it more when I actually get around to flashing my Tilt 2

Flash back to original ROM, export the keyboard settings using totalcommander or phm reg, then flash to custom rom, and import keyb settings.

i'm about to attach my .reg files from my stock tilt 2 rom. someone who has flashed their tilt 2 install them then soft reset and let us know what happens. also you might want to backup your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\ just to be on the safe side.
attachment below

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i'm about to attach my .reg files from my stock tilt 2 rom. someone who has flashed their tilt 2 install them then soft reset and let us know what happens. also you might want to backup your HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\ just to be on the safe side.
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Did not seem to work...will keep trying various combinations

l3it3r said:
it's usually as simple as a registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
if that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to play with it more when I actually get around to flashing my Tilt 2
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Woo Hoo!! That fixed my issue, these were missing from the ROM that I was using "EnergyROM".
There is one other registry that everyone may be missing that needs to be set:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
After these were set I did a reset and everything is working.

Do you mind if i ask how did you get a tilt 2? I checked the att site and it is only showing on the business side called att and they said its not availalbe yet?
thks
J

I'm an AT&T Dealer and placed an order for 1 and got it. The dealers that order 20-50 won't get their's for a while because there is not enough to go around.
* I'm currently using the energy rom and the keyboard is off somewhat like the original tilt was when it came out. The number keys are off and most of the top row keys as well. Someone suggested to flash back to the original ROM but silly me didn't back it up. I assumed it would be here. I think I'm just a little too much ahead. I will; however, try the registry fix and see if it fixes my problem. Thanks for all of the help guys...

I guess I am a little confused as to "what" actually fixed your layout problem? Did you have to put ALL of those registry entries in or just the ones you added to the message? Anyway someone could put that in a .cab?
thanks!

Tilt2 KB reg edits - mostly good
I can confirm that:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\
CWSLayout=1
LayoutID=502
helps...the OK key and others along bottom row are still not right but at least the FN and Caps are back to normal (using energyRom). an edit of the Cingular_US.txt should help. I'll try that in a bit.
Using Adv Config to set Cingular keyboard doesn't work...had to reg edit to use Cingular_US as indicated above.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\Keyboard LayoutFiles
07FF=eT9.Rhodium.Cingular_US.kmap.txt
I, too, wish i had saved Tilt2 keymap reg before my first flash.
Remember, takes both steps to get Tilt2 KB to 'normal'

Hey guys,
moved ya over to general...
peace,
Josh

beufford12 said:
I guess I am a little confused as to "what" actually fixed your layout problem? Did you have to put ALL of those registry entries in or just the ones you added to the message? Anyway someone could put that in a .cab?
thanks!
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Ditto can someone cab it up so I can continue to be lazy. Thanks

fire up Total commander, hit up the plugins --> registry, and then follow the structure to the specified containers. edit or add as needed.

I guess I'm confused because I can't seem to get the registry entries to work properly!

beufford12 said:
I guess I'm confused because I can't seem to get the registry entries to work properly!
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Here are all the relevant entries. Import them into your registry and reset.
Dot fred's registry editor makes it easier to just click and add registry settings.
And while I am at it, I attached the file to make hardSPL easy to run as well.

ATT Tilt2 Full Hardware Keyboard Remap *BOUNTY*

I have tried all three cabs below with zero success! Yes, these cabs remap if that the letters on the hardware keyboard but do nothing for the top row and symbols in blue. I can live without remapping the OK key if thats such a feat but need all other keys at least to be mapped the way they are suppose to be, they way they look on the hardware keyboard. Im sure many other users here will agree with me on this and hopefully others will pitch in as well.
Just looking for a simple cab to install so when i flash a custom rom that i can have FULL use of my hardware keyboard on my att tilt2, no more and no less. I have no knowledge in this stuff or id do it myself rather then provide stickies of a cab that does only half the job!
Since half the keyboard is already remapped, i will start the donation/bounty at $10USD and will add more if this can be done quick. If there's multiple people in on creating this for the community then i will be sure everyone truly involved gets a fair share as well.
Im no techy, just an end user but don't see this task to be complete rocket science.

What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.

carhigh said:
What the hell !!! The symbols in blue???? Those are controled with the funtion key (FN) on the keyboard.
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Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?

I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.

u921333 said:
I use the first one you list and all of my Keys work fine on my AT&T Tilt 2.
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Are you saying the top row works fine and every blue symbol key in conjuction with the FN key works fine as well? What rom are you running? Makes no sense to me. Making me think i have one bunk device since ive tested this with a fresh flash without installing anything else.

deeznuts said:
Yes of course they are. Im saying not only to remap the keys in white but also the ones controlled by the FN key, the symbols in blue. I dont believe my description is hard to understand. Simply look at an att tilt2 hardware keyboard, now have it work as it should, thats it! Not asking for anything else, just for all the keys on the hardware keyboard to work as they do when you first turn it on using the stock rom. Need a cab so it will work on custom roms since were not here to run stock roms.
Dont really know how else i can spell it out? Maybe take a picture of the att tilt2 hardware keyboard and post it?
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I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.

DuMnUt101 said:
I put that second script, install the cab (MortScript) then run the script file. soft reset and your good.
Some applications are weird and they swap the keys back to the original TP2 settings, but its very rare. It seems to work fine for me other than that. OH and when trying to use the hardware keys when dialing for a phone call its not right.. But I don't really use that anyways.
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What rom are u using including build? I used the mort pacakge just as u described after a fresh flash of nrgs latest rom of build 23518 on wm6.5.3 standard sense 2.1 and nothing bro! Only keys that work right for me are the letter keys, comma, period, and question mark. Well FN, shift are also mapped correctly as well. Every key on the top row is numbers 1-0 and the blue symbol keys are all over the place! This is killing me!

No, you dont need to explain. I understood your post and as you can see, i am on a custom rom with the tilt 2 and all my buttons work perfect, except for the OK key. I also use the first cab in your OP. As for dialing, as pointed out by a respose here, have no clue if mine works that way. I use the onscreen dialer.
Something must be wrong with your phone!!!!

Im using NRGZ's Leo Rom the 21885 version from 12/31.... It could be an issue with the 23518 builds. The OK button has never worked but dont really need it. I would try it on a 21885 build and if it doesnt work it sounds like device specific. You also could flash a Stock Rom back on then back to a Custom one sometimes some of the previous system files arent removed correctly I have heard.

I have an att tilt 2 as well, and after flashing any rom other then att my keyboard is all wrong also, mainly the top row, and the Fn keys. Its pretty funny though without a remap, my shift key works as the FN key, and my OK key works as a shift key, which I find funny. But attached is the cab I always have used every time, and every key with the exception of the OK key works, I have tested this 1,000,000 times. If this cab doesnt work (Which I think could be the third cab in your list but not sure), then you have a bad keyboard.
I have used this cab with, the stock EU rom, nrgz roms, valkyrie's roms, Arks roms.

I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....

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Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!

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Sorry for hijacking the thread a little. I've got a dilemma here, I'm about to change my physical keyboard (in fact the whole casing) for the one that has tilt2 layout (or maybe just the casing leaving the old keyboard untouched). How do you Tilt2 guys manage without the "Ctrl" key?!!!
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Most people will think you are crazy, most tilt2 people want the standard tp2 keyboard. but to your question: since the ok button doesnt work, I mapped "OK" using keyboard config to be a CTRL button

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I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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Is it the ATT keypad.dll? and you just open it with a text editor like notepad or something? I have been searching and it seems like that is what I should be looking for but I just want to make sure. Thanks in advance.

Sorry Deeznuts, but either you aren't explaining it right (which I think you are) or (more likely) there is something wrong. I have a Tilt 2\ATT and the keyboard fix cabs do work in every ROM I have installed. (With the exeption of only about three blue keys like the shortcut to mail or the internet.) There is either something wrong with your device or the ROM that you are using. I suggest you start over with a different ROM to test your keyboard, maybe use a stock ROM to be sure. There is also a prog called Rhodium Keyboard Control (RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.cab) that might be of use. Good luck.

I've been using the Tilt2HWKeyboard.cab and all the symbols and numbers work fine.
OK button does not work, sometimes it launches opera, other times i get error message with something about start.exe
FN+Left arrow (supposed to be calendar) Launches opera
FN+Down arrow (supposed to launch internet browser) does nothing
FN+Right arrow (supposed to turn on wifi) opens up comm manager.
I don't mind that those are off, but would prefer the OK button to work and also PTT button does not work at all.
I'm down to put in $10 as well to get a cab that has the full use of the HW keyboard + PTT button

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I have remapped my keyboard layout easily by editing the keyboard txt-file....was no big problem....every row is listed in his file, and you can put in whatever letter/symbol you want....
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I was looking at that text files, and it appears to be mapped correctly, but the top row is still messed up for me and the blue function keys are not correct either.
Can you post how you modified the text file please?

Mine works fine. I used instructions from a certain thread. I first installed the Tilt2HWKeyboard cab. I then installed a cab called SdkCerts. Then I installed a cab called RhodiumKbdControl_GSM.

$20 for 1 single step install at&t tilt2 keyboard ALL BUTTONS MUST WORK INCLUDING PTT AND OK BUTTON I DONT CARE IF IS A MORT SCRIPT A CAB OR XML

Hes NOT CRAZY lol
I have the same exact issue. ive tried different cabs to no change except . ? , still sont know where the hell at symbol is... I GOT 10 usd for a working cab or a soloution where every key works as should...besides a stock re flash!
What apps are you running bro? Im running the apr8 nrg rom too. idk! dont make sense to me. but even when i ran stock rom keys would switch to this configuratio noccasionally in txt msging!
i would close all the way out of txt and open it back up and keys back to normal. Im seriously about burned out on hunting fixes for these damned phones, stock and otherwise. Ive owned every HTC w a slide keyboard that att offered since 8125 (wizard)
and played hunt and fix on every single one. seriously, what other product would u pay 400 plus dollars for and then spennd countless hours searching for fixes just to make it work properly