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HI,
I'm new to this forum and new to the phone, I've ordered mine.
Although I'm fairly tech savvy, I am a web developer, middle level technically proficient in VBA and so forth...
I ordered and decided on this phone because of the PDA, Organiser, pocket pc and of course the phone.. basically all that is advertised.
But i'm beginning to have serious and grave concerns.. can people of this forum enlighten me..
The importtant feature of this phone for me beside being a phone is:
1. can it competentnly and reliabley syn with outlook
2. is there any issues with Excel as I will be using quite a bit of this on the road...
I won't have time or inclination to mess wtih the code or add new stuff. as i need this phone for mission critical business needs and hence can't have it bneing unrealible...
i hope i havne't made the wrong decision to embrace technology (although I know some of the more complidcated features or nifty features may have isssues)....
is this phone worth while and does what it says it does? or have i wasted a lot money
It synchs brilliantly with Outlook (I'm synching at home with Outlook 2003 and at work with Outlook XP\Exchange), way better than any other smartphone - mainly symbian - that I've ever used.
The Excel is good (if not brilliant). It works as advertised. Whether it will be suitable for you depends on what you want to use it for. It doesn't contain all the functions of the full excel, though it always surprises me just how many of the more obscure functions it does contain (PMT is the most important function I use, and is included). However, if you are looking to use Excel for graphs and charts etc, then you are going to be disappointed.
Anyway, if you've ordered it, you usually get a 14 day cooling off period during which you can return for a full refund.
Excel isn't bad, but if you're working on advanced spreadsheets then you should definitely look at PlanMaker from Softmaker.de. This is a simply stunning package that is what Excel should be...
Cheers,
nick.
thanks for the review.. one other thing.. noise when hangs u
i've heard from other users that there is a notceable and unpleasant tone when it hangs up..
man.. the amount of issues that is raised, itrs so bloody scary, can this phone still be used as a phone?
some have raised issues of not receiving even a call or an sms...
this wholly defeatst he purpose of this device entirely!!
can people comment? under what circumstances does it not work, are many people messing with the phone with installing new software or what?
Well I am a heavy user of my XDAII. I use it for txt, voice call, excell, powerpoint, word, acrobat, games, and too much of the Windows Media.
I compressed the Video Karaoke VCD's or DVD's to my SD. I always sync with avantgo. I use Internet Explorer to view or approve transactions in our Office Linux Web based ERP solution wirelessly via bluetooth.
I still recieve my messages and calls so don't worry. But remeber, be a smart user. Since this is a Windows platform, you have to Soft Reset after openning a lot of applications or install the Omega One Battery Pack Software to end unwanted or running applications so that you do not have to perform a soft reset.
I hanged up 2x in my early experience with this device because I used up most of the internal memory. I learned my lesson now that all apps must be installed in the external memory.
I always made sure that I have 60 mb free of internal memory so that it will not hang anymore. This 60 mb free serves as the working memory of my running programs or apps.
Hope this info will be useful to you.
we're sending ours back - it is no good as a phone, and crashes too often
padgett said:
we're sending ours back - it is no good as a phone, and crashes too often
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I have 2 XDAII, 1 for me and 1 for my wife. We are both heavy users and so far no problems.
Are we just lucky or what?
Another thing if you only want a phone then this device is not for you. The XDA is an overkill if you only intend to use it as a phone.
For me I treat my XDA more as a Portable Personal Computer (Pocket PC) that happens to have a cellular phone capability.
Additional comments. If you are a comfortable user of Windows 98, ME, 2000, and XP and understand the Operating System very much, then the XDAs is for you.
If you hate Windows and prefer Linux or Mac OS then you better use Palm Treo, Sony Ericcson P900 or 910i., or other Symbian OS.
Windows Mobile based Smartphones or PDA phones to me are for advance users who understand the system very much. Otherwise you will keep on complaining that it is hanging, crashing, slowing down, etc.
My wife also give me these problems before so I have to teach or train her how to understand the Windows System. Now she is on the advance type of user and does not give me headaches anymore.
Personally I have tried the Nokias, the Sony Ericssons, and the Treos. I was never satisfied by those devices as the applications were limited based on my usage and other interface in the office. I have to use 3rd party solutions just to make them work. Some of them specially the Nokias simply won't work.
In fact I work with Sharp and our Linux based PDA takes a lot of tweaking to work with our system and it has no GSM phone capability. So Sharp decided to switch to Windows platform so that Zaurus will sell.
Personally I will not exchange my XDA II or any Windows Platform PDAphones to other devices.
My XDAII easily integrated with our system without any 3rd party solutions. Remember we are using Linux in the office and the XDA II is connected to the system via bluetooth.
I have to agree with rayt, there are enough people around (myself included) who are using these devices day in day out without any problems (other than the occasional, well documented, bluetooth glitch) to show that the device is fine.
I really do struggle to understand the mentality of some of the people on this forum who have spent weeks and weeks complaining about how awful their devices are.
All they have to do is perform a hard reset and use the device for a couple of days in a clean state. If it doesn't crash anymore, then the problem was third party software or how it was set up. If the problem persists, it's a faulty unit and should be returned for a replacement. It's that simple. It's almost as if they enjoy being a victim!
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I have to agree with rayt, there are enough people around (myself included) who are using these devices day in day out without any problems (other than the occasional, well documented, bluetooth glitch) to show that the device is fine.
I really do struggle to understand the mentality of some of the people on this forum who have spent weeks and weeks complaining about how awful their devices are.
All they have to do is perform a hard reset and use the device for a couple of days in a clean state. If it doesn't crash anymore, then the problem was third party software or how it was set up. If the problem persists, it's a faulty unit and should be returned for a replacement. It's that simple. It's almost as if they enjoy being a victim!
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Thank you! If your bluetooth glitch is hotsync or internet pass through, I made a solution for this. Go to this link at, http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13387&highlight=.
I made a detailed instruction for the bluetooth. In fact my XDA is a virgin, meaning the OS is a factory original with 1.66.00WWE.
I dropped my XDA on the concrete floor 5 times already by accident so far no hang-ups except for external housing scratches.
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padgett said:
we're sending ours back - it is no good as a phone, and crashes too often
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I have 2 XDAII, 1 for me and 1 for my wife. We are both heavy users and so far no problems.
Are we just lucky or what?
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hey mate.....i dont think you are the only lucky one....most of the guys who have xda II are lucky i guess...and i am a heavy user of xda II as well i use alll the softwares on xda II and plus additional installled and many games installlled tooo....but i haven't faced any problem as yet with my xda II whether flashing the rom or crashing or something (TOUCH WOOD) so i guess you dont need to be afraid....IT DOES WAT IT SAYS.... !! and by the way.....i get heavy calls everyday and msgin is like freaked out tooo so no worries IF YOU HAVE AROUND MORE THEN 50% OF MEMORY FREE IN YOUR XDA II for it to run properly... !!
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jeetz
any more tips and tricks welcome! feeling better now!
Yes, thanks oh so much for all your comments and tips and tricks,
I'd appreciate anyone posting to give some advice on how to use this,
so as i understand, install only programs on external memory,
keep it clean, don't mess about too often and use soft reset or download a software as one suggested....
I was beginning to feel very worried, that htis is some large rip off given its a huge pie in the sky ask for a company to put together what everybody is now thinking.. convering pda, phone, pc.... i know they are trying to break grounds, but heck, the stories we here on this forum,
its like its a unmerchanable product.. and a class lawsuit should be preppared....
keep the tips going
if you know how to use desktop windows xp then you should automatically know how to use the xda II and as far as keeping it clean is concerned if you wanna really keep it clean then you should buy a sd or mmc memory chip and install your programs on that so that your pda remains with full memory and does not get slowed down and stuff....
regards
jeetz
Re: any more tips and tricks welcome! feeling better now!
ticc888 said:
Yes, thanks oh so much for all your comments and tips and tricks,
I'd appreciate anyone posting to give some advice on how to use this,
so as i understand, install only programs on external memory,
keep it clean, don't mess about too often and use soft reset or download a software as one suggested....
I was beginning to feel very worried, that htis is some large rip off given its a huge pie in the sky ask for a company to put together what everybody is now thinking.. convering pda, phone, pc.... i know they are trying to break grounds, but heck, the stories we here on this forum,
its like its a unmerchanable product.. and a class lawsuit should be preppared....
keep the tips going
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It is not an unmerchanable product! And a lawsuit must not be abused and unnecessary.
I have to remind that the product is not for everybody and I have to repeat again that it is intended for advanced users, Techie, or IT literate people.
You said that you were a web developer and in VBA. Now I want to ask you a question, can you name any Phone other than Windows powered that can run your VBA scripts? If there are any I will be glad to try them again.
I am not a loyal Microsoft User or Developer as I am also into Unix, Linux, and Mac OS. It only happened that my XDA solved my problems in the office without any 3rd party applications or tweaking.
I think this discussion is going somewhere else like what the EU government is doing to Windows. They sued MS because of the many funtionality and usefullness of windows like the antitrust case in the US.
Now tell me are you willing to buy the Windows Reduced Media Functionality because of what the government said so or are you willing to stand or go for a System that is complete and inovative at athe same price?
If you don't like it return it and don't insist on it. Buy another PDAPHONE device with a different platform like Symbian, Linux, or Palm OS and try your applications. Only then you will know that the Windows Platform is the right choice and is not a ripoff.
I sold my Nokias, Sony Ericcsons, and Treos as they did not work or fit for our systems in and outside the office.
The last 3 phones can't even perform my Hobbies done in VBA. These hobbies are satellite tracking, planet tracking, astronomy, and anything related to the solar system. These hobies run on my XDAs and my XDA tells me the weather conditin 5 days in advance.
I purchased a TyTN (T-Mobile Vario II) around six months ago and I was pretty pleased with it. It wasn't perfect (for example, I couldn't re-connect to the Internet without a soft reset) but it was pretty good.
After a lot of hesitation, I upgraded the radio (1.41) and OS (Black 2.5) about a month ago. A couple of days ago I upgraded the OS to Black Shadow. Tonight I added the SMS "fix".
I now believe that I have the best communication device in the world. Seriously. It's wonderful. The functionality is outstanding. I can do almost anything I could possibly want to do with a phone/PDA. E-mail, texting, surfing, phoning, Skyping, gaming, voice recording, reading (Word, PDF), presenting (PowerPoint), photography etc. Did I mention Internet sharing? I can now connect my laptop to the 'Net from almost anywhere in the world.
The only drawbacks that I can see are that it looks a bit like a brick (only because it has a full QWERTY keyboard - which I love), the battery only lasts one day at a time, and it can be a little sluggish at times.
Nothing else comes close and whenever I look for something better I always come away seriously disappointed - and that will include the iPhone when it comes out. We're probably using iPhone v2 (3G, programmable, video calling, Internet sharing, Office compatible, etc.) right now.
whats the point of this thread?
Seems that he wants to praise the device...would be better suited in the general forum?
Sounds like he wants a cookie....
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Sounds like he wants a cookie....
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I could not not help it, LMAO
Dont see anything wrong with praising a device
Can you actually blow a phone? Whups, n00b question, when I used the search feature it gave me this thread again. lol
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Dont see anything wrong with praising a device
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ditto
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Nothing wrong if some one wants to praise their phone .
Here here!
Enough people ***** about their phones in these forums. I for one am glad to hear a success story once in a while.
I think it's a great phone, perhaps the best of the last generation, but there are new toys coming out that show incremental improvements in the technology.
But it's the programmers and hackers that really make Windows Mobile devices fly!
And, re "The best communication device in the world?", surely this is the wife's evil glare? Never fails to get the message over to me, tout suite
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bobbyelliott said:
I now believe that I have the best communication device in the world.
Nothing else comes close and whenever I look for something better I always come away seriously disappointed - and that will include the iPhone when it comes out. We're probably using iPhone v2 (3G, programmable, video calling, Internet sharing, Office compatible, etc.) right now.
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Have you tried the Trinity?
"The best communication device in the world?"
Although my X01HT is not the best performance device in the world, I think it's the ringt device for me.
I dont have a perfect phone or PDA. Nor do I want one.
Else I will never get to replace a new one every few months!
Yes, it's a great phone!
...but we still need to file that original post under "NooB-gasm"!
Perhaps we could start a special "H-TaCy" thread for these posts.
Just kidding.
You know, in this day and age with so many Prematurely-released feature-rich gadgets, the marketing teams usually win the consumers over and poor tech support kills all the hope of the devices reaching their potential. I've been had by ASUS a few times on PDAs/phones.
It's really nice to have a great group of people like we find here (who are putting in all the grunt work) who can help us GET OUR MONEY'S WORTH (SO RARE THESE DAYS!!), especially on the language-change issues!
_My_ thanks goes out to HTC for making good products and to the FOLKS HERE for making it great! It's quite possible he sort of meant the same thing. When the vibrator stops working, he may one day realize this.
-J Cat
Lol... be nice guys.
I have to say I was quietly smiling to myself when I heard about the Iphone's 3rd party development support - through Safari widgets. Yippee
I've said it before and I'll say it again - the Windows Mobile phones are great because people like the endless genii on this board make them great and customise the hell out of them.
HTC makes nice hardware, and the two together work well. Many OEMs make nice hardware now, look at the Japanese only devices for true innovation. But, Hermes is a nice, stable device. Shame about the GPS, it would have been near perfect (for its generation).
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Perfect without GPS
Perfect? Well.... Well if it was faster, had 128 MB of storage. Had room for SD and MicroSD (4GB please) and if it had GPS, maybe it would be approaching perfect.
Now Heather Graham is perfect! http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001287/
May I have a cookie too?
Mark
Perfect without GPS
Sorry if that is a N00b post.
The TyTN is a fantastic communications device, I keep my interior life on it and it entertains me when I'm bored!
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Perfect? Well.... Well if it was faster, had 128 MB of storage. Had room for SD and MicroSD (4GB please) and if it had GPS, maybe it would be approaching perfect.
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I agree with some of this... ample RAM and an 800Mhz CPU would suit me. Add GPS and a 5MP camera and it would be my perfect device.
Ohh yeah and a mini projector built into the top of the phone so I could aim it at a wall and project my films so I had a larger view!
I would like the top projector on the device to project on air rather than the wall as well as would like TyTn to perform as a new "surface" where u can just put any bar coded device on its screen and have all the contents sorted out...plus I would also like it to work as a fax and also GPS and so the list goes on and on...
In reality, I use it only for the voice calling and nothing else... and for that my nokia 3100 was perfect with 7 days plus battery life....
Sorry for the rant...
I found a few old (and dead) threads on the subject, but I wanted to start a new one now that there are a lot more Evo owners out there who may help keep this going. Feel free to bump this and maybe we can get some support from the devs by demonstrating this will be worth their while.
I have read that the phone was not loaded with a proper Bluetooth stack making the Evo incompatible with several Bluetooth devices out there; the PS3 being one of them. I don't know how accurate that is, or if there are more underlying issues which prevent my requests from being plausible. With that said, here is a list of things I would be interested in:
1) Instead of paying $20 for the Blu-Ray remote for the PS3, I'd rather pay for an app that can control the basic functions of the PS3's media player. Me, personally, I don't like using the PS3 controller for video playback AT ALL. Also, it'd be one less remote to have in the house if I can use my phone instead of Sony's remote.
2) Use my phone as a headset. I cannot stand having an earpiece or headphones on for longer than a few minutes. If I could just pair my phone to the PS3 with a speaker phone option during online gaming, that would be LOVELY.
3) The most obvious one is being able to use the phone as a keyboard instead of buying the keypad that attaches to the PS3 controller. I do have the keypad, but I would put it on eBay in a split second if I were able to do it with my phone.
I'm sure there are some other things people have thought of that would be handy. Feel free to PM me anything else you may want to be able to do and I will gladly add it to the OP. Hopefully there are enough people out there interested in this so as to warrant the devs taking the time to figure this out. Honestly, I do not have the time to maintain a bounty thread, and it is not my intention to start one. However, I will say that I will make a $50 donation to anyone who can get this to work, as that is how much the Blu-Ray remote and keypad cost me on eBay. I am confident that I will not be the only one who donates, but again, this is not a bounty thread and will not be treated as such. If you say you will donate and one of the devs comes through, please keep your word and make your donation.
Mods: My apologies if anything I posted here is outside of the guidelines of this forum; feel free to call me out on any changes I should make.
Thanks in advance to all the devs, mods and forum members for your support on this.
sounds like a good idea, but also sounds far away from become a reality
HOPE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS
Sent from my Evo 4G using a tooth pick
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sounds like a good idea, but also sounds far away from become a reality
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Our phones can already work as remotes for certain applications, which leads me to believe it can be done by someone with the knowledge and (more importantly) the drive. With apps like Gmote 2.0 already on the market, I don't see why not. I have a Samsung Bluetooth ear piece that pairs to my PS3, and it is 2-3 years old, at least. Why can't the phone do it?
Maybe an app isn't even necessary. Maybe it can be a flashable file that just adds Bluetooth info to whatever is on the phone.
I'm pretty sure this is possible. +1
Devs will correct me if I am wrong.
I love this idea. Id throw in 20 if its workable.
And another twenty if I could use my phone as a tv remote.
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Well, now that a root method was found for Evoers with 2.2, maybe this thread will be more successful.
almost over a year old. Ill throw 10$ into a pool to get this working.
I don't know if this topic has been bandied about on this forum. I've searched quite a bit and I haven't found anything. Is there any reason why MS has not released BT PAN on our stacks? I know the carriers have the ultimate say on methods used for tethering but not even the factory unlocked models have this wonderful feature. Wi-Fi tethering is nice and all, but it drains batteries like nobody's business, and if you're tethering to a tablet now you have two batteries dying a quick death. One of my favorite features of Windows Mobile after version 5 aku 3 was the internet sharing through either USB or BT. The speeds over BT were the same as any Wi-Fi tethering since it is the phone's same 3G signal anyway. Bluetooth tethering consumes a lot less power than Wi-Fi and with the PAN profile we also get the benefit of file transfer. ARGH!!!!! I hate having to carry an old POS WM6.5 device in my bag for the oft times I need to jack up my laptop when I'm out in the field. If anybody with any kind of influence with MS is reading, can you also throw in the MAP profile while you're at it? Please? Pretty please? With sugar......
This is an exact copy of the same thread that you posted at WPCentral, not enough answers over there for you?
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This is an exact copy of the same thread that you posted at WPCentral, not enough answers over there for you?
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What rock do you live under? I didn't discover warm water here fella, lots of people do this. Do you not hear the same news from umpteen different sources? If you only follow one forum you may be missing out on something.
Hey, fatclue, why do you think that WiFi drains the battery more than Bluetooth? "A lot less power"... Another Magpir user? Any proof: links, spreadsheets, specs, numbers? Or just "from my own WinMo experience"?
BTW, nobody will ever make these ROM modifications - nor manufacturers neither whitehats - 'cause nobody needs it (except you). So, just forget about it. "PLEEEEEEEASE" (even with huge characters!) will not help
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Hey, fatclue, why do you think that WiFi drains the battery more than Bluetooth? "A lot less power"... Another Magpir user? Any proof: links, spreadsheets, specs, numbers? Or just "from my own WinMo experience"?
BTW, nobody will ever make these ROM modifications - nor manufacturers neither whitehats - 'cause nobody needs it (except you). So, just forget about it. "PLEEEEEEEASE" (even with huge characters!) will not help
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Dude, come on. It is widely accepted that a BT radio consumes less power than a Wi-Fi radio. No, I don't have the back-up because it is widely accepted as much as anything else. Do you also need proof if someone tells you the speed of light is approximately 186,000 fps? You must also be one of those idiots that want to see Obama's birth certificate. BT PAN is a very useful profile and I'm not the only one who would prefer to have it. Search around other platforms and you'll see for yourself, or do you want me to do the work for you as well? Would you like links or do you prefer pictures so you don't have to actually read.
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Dude, come on. It is widely accepted that a BT radio consumes less power than a Wi-Fi radio. No, I don't have the back-up because it is widely accepted as much as anything else. Do you also need proof if someone tells you the speed of light is approximately 186,000 fps? You must also be one of those idiots that want to see Obama's birth certificate.
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Mmm... yeah dude. I need to see proof of that. I'm not saying you're lying but that doesn't sound right to me. You may want to check your facts before haranguing people on a forum.
You may have had a very good point here but it just got destroyed by an epic own goal.
Jus' sayin'
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Mmm... yeah dude. I need to see proof of that. I'm not saying you're lying but that doesn't sound right to me. You may want to check your facts before haranguing people on a forum.
You may have had a very good point here but it just got destroyed by an epic own goal.
Jus' sayin'
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My bad, miles per second not feet per second. In my line of work I'm used to feet/second. If you consider Colorado University a respectable enough source, read on.
http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed_evidence.html
Why's everyone being so mean? Damn, its as simply as someone creating a rom capable of using it but having it turned off for those who don't use it. Its simple. No like anyone needs to get on his case.
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Why's everyone being so mean? Damn, its as simply as someone creating a rom capable of using it but having it turned off for those who don't use it. Its simple. No like anyone needs to get on his case.
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It's cool, sitizenx posted my partial post in big red bold letters and I realized my mistake and I owned up to it and clarified. I'm not perfect, only my teacher is (Jesus). I can't walk on water or turn water into wine, but I've been known to turn Mad Dog (MD 20/20 for the uninformed) into a chunky liquid, but that's another story.
Mad Dog? That's pretty ghetto.
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Enough off topic here. Double thread anyway. Thread closed.
Hey all!
I love NFC, just as much as you - seeing as you're reading this in the NFC section, I assume you use NFC regularly. I think it'll be fantastic when it's main stream, however for it to become a truly mainstream it needs more data type. just like you get vCards, URL's, SMS's etc - I think we need more help from Google, Microsoft and all the hardware vendors - along with the NFC forum itself - to help extend NFC's capabilities.
Sure we on XDA know how to extend it's abilities - either by hacking it or knowing which app lets you do a certain additional function. Unfortunately normal members of the public won't know about the XDA way or about the apps. For example the problem is you can write an NFC tag to connect to a a device to a particular wifi network, however you need the app that wrote the tag or another app that understands what to do with the tag for it to work. Now the problem is that your guests probably won't have the app installed, so you'll have to connect them manually or download the app over 2G/3G/4G and depending on network strength - just like my area - could take a long time!
What came first, the chicken or the egg? What came first the wifi or the adoption of more standard / capabilities, across OS's / vendors ?
There are plenty more examples, but this is the most useful and self explanatory I can think of.
Please, please, please read my blog post about this and if you so wish, sign the petition, message the NFC Forum telling them to get their butt's into gear - message Google and the Android dev's do what you can to make NFC better and help it's adoption :good:
http://jaytongarnett.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/is-nfc-over-rated-we-need-nfc-20.html
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Hey all!
I love NFC, just as much as you - seeing as you're reading this in the NFC section, I assume you use NFC regularly. I think it'll be fantastic when it's main stream, however for it to become a truly mainstream it needs more data type. just like you get vCards, URL's, SMS's etc - I think we need more help from Google, Microsoft and all the hardware vendors - along with the NFC forum itself - to help extend NFC's capabilities.
Sure we on XDA know how to extend it's abilities - either by hacking it or knowing which app lets you do a certain additional function. Unfortunately normal members of the public won't know about the XDA way or about the apps. For example the problem is you can write an NFC tag to connect to a a device to a particular wifi network, however you need the app that wrote the tag or another app that understands what to do with the tag for it to work. Now the problem is that your guests probably won't have the app installed, so you'll have to connect them manually or download the app over 2G/3G/4G and depending on network strength - just like my area - could take a long time!
What came first, the chicken or the egg? What came first the wifi or the adoption of more standard / capabilities, across OS's / vendors ?
There are plenty more examples, but this is the most useful and self explanatory I can think of.
Please, please, please read my blog post about this and if you so wish, sign the petition, message the NFC Forum telling them to get their butt's into gear - message Google and the Android dev's do what you can to make NFC better and help it's adoption :good:
http://jaytongarnett.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/is-nfc-over-rated-we-need-nfc-20.html
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As much as it pains me to say it...we need Apple to implement native NFC support in iOS. I was really excited to see Passbook (or whatever its called) and was nearly positive this meant NFC support for the iPhone 5. Unfortunately, not this go round. It's ok though, wait a couple iterations of iOS/iPhone and NFC will finally be deemed acceptable for the public...magically...revolutionarily.
I know, and I think why the heck should we wait? Apple might only bring NFC with the iPhone 7. What's the harm in trying to change it now?
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I haven't used it much, but I am for interested. I guess I need a better understanding of its purpose and how I can use it in everyday situations. I already use wifi-direct for a bunch of transferring.
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As much as it pains me to say it...we need Apple to implement native NFC support in iOS. I was really excited to see Passbook (or whatever its called) and was nearly positive this meant NFC support for the iPhone 5. Unfortunately, not this go round. It's ok though, wait a couple iterations of iOS/iPhone and NFC will finally be deemed acceptable for the public...magically...revolutionarily.
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The fanboys say that apple is afraid of NFC till they can develop a version of their own that is "Secure"...
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The fanboys say that apple is afraid of NFC till they can develop a version of their own that is "Secure"...
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Yeah, they need something the can control - they need to devise a way to make money out of it otherwise it's not in their interest.
I know this is XDA Developers and we can make NFC do what we want, but we all have people in our lives who won't even use NFC because they don't know about it or know what it can do which is why I'd like us to make a change at the OS level on behalf of all of our non-technical friends and family. Let's get the big players like Google, Microsoft and anyone else that's already using NFC in their products to want to make a change - for Grandma
Lets be honest guys, the majority of people around us have iPhones, mainly 4s's. Imagine if all of them had NFC and we could all play nicely sharking playlists and sending phone numbers to eachother?
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TheLegendaryJay said:
Yeah, they need something the can control - they need to devise a way to make money out of it otherwise it's not in their interest.
I know this is XDA Developers and we can make NFC do what we want, but we all have people in our lives who won't even use NFC because they don't know about it or know what it can do which is why I'd like us to make a change at the OS level on behalf of all of our non-technical friends and family. Let's get the big players like Google, Microsoft and anyone else that's already using NFC in their products to want to make a change - for Grandma
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NFC is the next big thing just give it time. once it rolls out. more in new devices we shall see. it's development grow more and any phone worth it's salt will have to have it
I agree - a revolution. Right now, when I mention NFC to most people they give me that "HUH???" expression. Then I have to explain what it is and then I have to give them examples of what it can do. Seems like almost no one knows what it is or has any idea all the cool things you can do with it.
What we need is a Samsung or Google or HTC to run a commercial that features people using NFC - with tags to automate stuff at home/work, with Google Wallet to pay for stuff, other things. Then the average person would be like "oh I know what that is - I saw it on a commercial"
Unfortunately right now it seems like it's just us tech geeks who know about it...
hollywoodfrodo said:
I agree - a revolution. Right now, when I mention NFC to most people they give me that "HUH???" expression. Then I have to explain what it is and then I have to give them examples of what it can do. Seems like almost no one knows what it is or has any idea all the cool things you can do with it.
What we need is a Samsung or Google or HTC to run a commercial that features people using NFC - with tags to automate stuff at home/work, with Google Wallet to pay for stuff, other things. Then the average person would be like "oh I know what that is - I saw it on a commercial"
Unfortunately right now it seems like it's just us tech geeks who know about it...
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Dont call us geeks;p j/k
Well, we've already got a very usefull feature for NFC like very fast files transfer, the only what we need is more phones that support it. It will be as famous as bluetooth i think hopefully
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gallardo5 said:
Dont call us geeks;p j/k
Well, we've already got a very usefull feature for NFC like very fast files transfer, the only what we need is more phones that support it. It will be as famous as bluetooth i think hopefully
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How much data can actually be transfered via NFC? I always thought the bandwidth for transfers was rather small, which is why most items transfered are under 144 bytes.
For larger transfers wouldn't using NFC for the handshake then Bluetooth for data transfers be better?
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I have to admit I am one of those people who do not know about its capabilites. I know what it is and have it activated on my phone, but what can I do with it...I do not know besides I think you can tranfer pictures, phone numbers and stuff.
Can someone maybe explain it in more detail and tell us about its uses? Maybe I should have done a search about NFC (Near Field Communications) before I wrote this.
P.S. I wish more people would put the acronym meaning after the acronym, like I did above, in this forum...ooh that gives me an idea!! (light in head goes off!! lol)
Psichi said:
How much data can actually be transfered via NFC? I always thought the bandwidth for transfers was rather small, which is why most items transfered are under 144 bytes.
For larger transfers wouldn't using NFC for the handshake then Bluetooth for data transfers be better?
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I cannot tell you if there is a limit in filesize, but since the biggest NFC tags you can buy at the moment (afaik) are 8kb, anything beyond 1mb is most likely to take to long to be economic.