I have an rooted "unrevoked 3.21" Incredible with the stock OTA 2.2 Froyo update on my phone. I haven't really done too much to tweak it but I did install ROMmanager and through there installed the optical trackpad wake function.
I knew going into it that people said that the wake function would be sporadic at best which seems to be my general observation. My questions is how come when my phone is either plugged into a wall charger or to the PC that the optical trackpad wake feature works every single time 100% on the first click like it was actually designed for this purpose but as soon as it is unplugged it will only work occasionally at best and sometimes requires me to hold the button down for nearly 8-9 seconds before it will actually wake?
I mean if it will wake every single time consistently when the phone is plugged into a charging source there has to be some reason or way to get it to function the same way when it is not plugged in. Right? There must be something about the phone being plugged into a charging source that is allowing the optical trackpad button to work every single time 100% consistently. I'm not a developer by any means but does anyone have any idea what would allow this to work perfectly when charging but then sporadically when unplugged and do you think there is any way to replicate this or fool the trackpad button to thinking it is always plugged in charging to get a consistent wake function out of the trackpad whether it is plugged in or not plugged in?
I don't expect this thread to go anywhere but if it does, thank you very much in advance...
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Well if it works 100% when plugged in then I would guess its a battery saving thing for it to not work
1967ls2 said:
I have an rooted "unrevoked 3.21" Incredible with the stock OTA 2.2 Froyo update on my phone. I haven't really done too much to tweak it but I did install ROMmanager and through there installed the optical trackpad wake function.
I knew going into it that people said that the wake function would be sporadic at best which seems to be my general observation. My questions is how come when my phone is either plugged into a wall charger or to the PC that the optical trackpad wake feature works every single time 100% on the first click like it was actually designed for this purpose but as soon as it is unplugged it will only work occasionally at best and sometimes requires me to hold the button down for nearly 8-9 seconds before it will actually wake?
I mean if it will wake every single time consistently when the phone is plugged into a charging source there has to be some reason or way to get it to function the same way when it is not plugged in. Right? There must be something about the phone being plugged into a charging source that is allowing the optical trackpad button to work every single time 100% consistently. I'm not a developer by any means but does anyone have any idea what would allow this to work perfectly when charging but then sporadically when unplugged and do you think there is any way to replicate this or fool the trackpad button to thinking it is always plugged in charging to get a consistent wake function out of the trackpad whether it is plugged in or not plugged in?
I don't expect this thread to go anywhere but if it does, thank you very much in advance...
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rmoney said:
Well if it works 100% when plugged in then I would guess its a battery saving thing for it to not work
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Yeah it's freakin weird. Works every single time when it is plugged in to a charging source. There has to be a way to tell the optical trackpad that it is plugged in when it is not plugged in.
I have observed this as well. This must have to do with how the screen off mode operates under battery power vs on external power source. When on battery only power, some functions are probably checked for incoming commands at longer intervals. These same functions must be awake all the time under external power. So the solution would be to embed the trackpad to wake commands under the module which is on always whether under battery or external power.
Just my guess.
khanam said:
I have observed this as well. This must have to do with how the screen off mode operates under battery power vs on external power source. When on battery only power, some functions are probably checked for incoming commands at longer intervals. These same functions must be awake all the time under external power. So the solution would be to embed the trackpad to wake commands under the module which is on always whether under battery or external power.
Just my guess.
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That is exactly what I am thinking is going on here. For some reason when the phone is plugged into a charging source it allows the trackpad to wake instantly. When the phone is on internal battery power only there must be some sort of battery saving power function for the trackpad possibly to save battery power if there were any unintentional presses of the trackpad so that way no battery would be wasted while the phone is unplugged from a charger. Like I initially said I am no developer but how would I go about finding a way to attach the trackpad wake feature to that external power source command feature and tell the trackpad that it is always plugged into a charging source even though it is running on battery power only?
Is there a specific developer that would be best at this or somewhere particular that I could direct my question/theory to? Thanks again for the responses guys...
Id imagine if the optical trackpad were on at all times it would be registering the swipes up against our pant pockets, and that might use some unintentional battery juice.
Its just the nature of it. I doubt you could turn on the button pressing function without enabling the swipe actions as well.
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Div033 said:
Id imagine if the optical trackpad were on at all times it would be registering the swipes up against our pant pockets, and that might use some unintentional battery juice.
Its just the nature of it. I doubt you could turn on the button pressing function without enabling the swipe actions as well.
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I think for what it's worth I would prefer to take my chance with a few unintentional swipes in my pocket if the phone would wake up consistently by pressing the optical trackpad button. That is definitely something I hadn't really thought about though and it make sense but I just hate the consistency issues.
Well if you swipe it, it doesn't do anything while the phone's screen is off, so I don't think it is registering the swipes at all, so technically enabling it should work. And we can always test to see if the swipes do waste the battery.
Try holding down the button until it wakes up, sometimes it requires a second or 2 to register (makes the failure rate close to 0)
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Anyone else have this problem....Tilt 2, while charging and keyboard is slid open, the power button doesn't work to power off the phone.
If you haven't personally experienced this could you try it and see what happens for you.
No problems here. Power button works as expected regardless of if it's being charged or if keyboard is out.
Same issue...not a big deal for me, but my power button does not turn off the screen with the keyboard open whether the screen is locked. The device is connected to a PC to charge. and I'm using the stock AT&T Rom.
The power switch doesn't turn off screen or power off device while keyboard is open, plugged into charger or not. How is that a problem? Just close it then turn if off.
alanrichey said:
The power switch doesn't turn off screen or power off device while keyboard is open, plugged into charger or not. How is that a problem? Just close it then turn if off.
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Well it does turn it off on the tmob (US) version of the TP2, so it's not completely out of left field...just becasue you don't have any scenairos where it's undesirable to close the keyboard before shutting off the screen, don't assume that nobody else does either
bdfx69 said:
Same issue...not a big deal for me, but my power button does not turn off the screen with the keyboard open whether the screen is locked. The device is connected to a PC to charge. and I'm using the stock AT&T Rom.
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Same AT&T stock rom
alanrichey said:
The power switch doesn't turn off screen or power off device while keyboard is open, plugged into charger or not. How is that a problem? Just close it then turn if off.
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When im charging, and continuously texting someone, it gets annoying sliding the keyboard in and out
I think I know the answer to this already, but I though I'd ask anyway....
Is it possible on DHD to use some kind of swipe action across the home-menu-back-search buttons at the bottom to wake the phone up, instead of the power button?
Or are these buttons not receptive when the phone is asleep?
Normally the touchpad is off when the phone is asleep, but i think it' possible to let it on the whole time.
Even if it is possible, your battery will drain much faster since the touchpad needs about 3-5mA when in use (read it somewhere on the synaptics homepage)
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First off in case I have created a thread that already exists I'd like to say sorry and can you please direct me to said thread as I couldn't find it in my search.
When I plug my phone into the charger there is a longer than usual delay before it switches from discharge to charge. While still the phone is plugged in when I shut the screen off it stays off when I press the lock/power button but the lights under the hard keys light up and the touchscreen becomes active (I know this because I can hear the lock screen unlock when I swipe it). Everything on the phone comes to life except for the display its self. I am just wondering if someone out there knows or has had this happen to them and could tell me if it is a hardware or software issue and what I can do to fix it.
Thanks and again sorry if i have reposted something.
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First off in case I have created a thread that already exists I'd like to say sorry and can you please direct me to said thread as I couldn't find it in my search.
When I plug my phone into the charger there is a longer than usual delay before it switches from discharge to charge. While still the phone is plugged in when I shut the screen off it stays off when I press the lock/power button but the lights under the hard keys light up and the touchscreen becomes active (I know this because I can hear the lock screen unlock when I swipe it). Everything on the phone comes to life except for the display its self. I am just wondering if someone out there knows or has had this happen to them and could tell me if it is a hardware or software issue and what I can do to fix it.
Thanks and again sorry if i have reposted something.
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If your rooted flash another rom. If your running a custom rom wich one are you running. Something similar happens to me on the 4.2.1 rom's but only when using a usb cord to cpu to charge.
Hey guys... so I've noticed my phone acting a bit funky after the latest KitKat update. Just a bit of freezing and lagging, but my 32GB of space was also full. So I did a complete wipe and factory reset and started from scratch. At first everything was great (about a week or two). Then the past day or two I've noticed the below issues...
1. While at work, I keep the phone plugged into my computer via USB with Internet Pass-Through and WiFi turned on. I have it setup this way so I can use the computers internet and trickle charge the phone at the same time. But when I leave my desk I simply unplug my phone and it connects to my works WiFi while I'm walking around the office. I get back to my desk I plug it back in.
Problem: I've noticed lately that I'll pick up my phone and it's HOT to the touch. As well as the battery percentage is actually dropping even though it's plugged in.
2. At night when I go to sleep, using the HTC Charger and Cable that came with the phone I'll plug it in next to my bedside and let it charge.
Problem: I'll wake up in the morning, hit the power button to light up the screen and nothing happens. The Home Key and the Back Arrow (are these what everyone refers to as the "soft keys"?) are lit up but the screen will not turn on. To get the screen on, I have to HOLD the power button down, the screen then lights up with the Restart menu showing (and yes I've restarted it many times in hopes of fixing this issue) and I have to tap outside that box (on my wallpaper or wherever) and the menu will go away and my screen is back up like normal. However as soon as I tap the power button to turn off the screen (not the phone) and tap the power button again, nothing happens except the bottom keys being lit up. It's an ugly circle.
I have noticed a few times when holding the power button to bring up the screen/reset menu, sometimes the screen/reset menu will not turn on, but the home and back arrow keys on the bottom will flash a few times.
Any ideas guys? Loved this phone up until now
So after 200+ views and no comments I'd just like to add that I think I found the fix for this. I spoke with a few different HTC techs and tried multiple things before having to ship it out to them and right before doing so they had me reset what they termed the "Charging Logic"
To reset the Charging Logic
1. Power phone completely off
2. Once powered off, hold the Volume UP, Volume Down, and Power buttons for 2 minutes (my fingertips were sore afterwards LOL)
3. You should get a white background with the green HTC logo turn on/off multiple times. Almost as if it's trying to reboot...
4. After 2 minutes, let go of the buttons and let it reboot.
DONE!
Since I've done this, I've noticed my battery life extremely improved. My phone is no longer getting crazy hot, and the screen now turns on after an over-night charge!
Hope this helps others!
Does it matter what kind of charge you have on the battery when you do this? This is the first I've ever heard of resetting Charging Logic.
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disconnecktie said:
Does it matter what kind of charge you have on the battery when you do this? This is the first I've ever heard of resetting Charging Logic.
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I'm not sure what you are asking by "what kind of charge". Could you clarify?
Soul TKR said:
I'm not sure what you are asking by "what kind of charge". Could you clarify?
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Does it matter what percentage your battery is at and does it work for rooted phones? Do I need to be on the stock Rom/recovery for it to work?
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disconnecktie said:
Does it matter what percentage your battery is at and does it work for rooted phones? Do I need to be on the stock Rom/recovery for it to work?
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Sorry I'm not familiar enough with the developer side of things to tell you "it's ok" or "not".
What I can say is, the HTC tech never did ask me if my phone was fully charged or what percentage it was at. Which at the time was like 97% if I recall correctly. I am completely stock...
I would imagine this would work for rooted phones and it wouldn't matter what battery percentage but can't guarantee you...
I just wanted to come back in here and update this again. The above fix did not actually fix the phone as the problem came back again eventually. I am now on my third HTC ONE M7 and looks like I'll have to send this one back as well for the same issue.
I have a theory that it's either a problem with the OS or Light Sensor causing the screen not to turn on.
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So the power button of my Pixel 2 XL is unfortunately dying. Sometimes it works a few times and then a button press does nothing. It also triggers easily a double press (noticeable because that starts the camera) when tapping it only once. Gets really annoying when you think you have powered it off but it is still powered on in your pocket...
Are there any ideas how to fix the issue without opening the device? I don't want to open the device by myself after I ****ed up my Nexus 6 after a battery swap.
Any workarounds for the problem? Currently I use Novas remapping of the home button for power off but that is not really comfortable because you have to leave the current app for that.
Different roms have different options that may partly help. Often they are at settings/system/gestures.
For wake, use fingerprint. For sleep, set a very short timeout, or see if you can find a rom with double-tap to sleep option. If camera starts at the wrong time, disable the camera quick start.
But none of this will help you if the phone is really turned off. Can you really live with not knowing whether you can start the phone if it runs out of power?
I will look into some of the options. I'd like to stay with the stock rom though (but I have root if that helps).
The button is not that broken. If I press really hard I can always get it to work again, so I have no fear it won't power on again.