I think I know the answer to this already, but I though I'd ask anyway....
Is it possible on DHD to use some kind of swipe action across the home-menu-back-search buttons at the bottom to wake the phone up, instead of the power button?
Or are these buttons not receptive when the phone is asleep?
Normally the touchpad is off when the phone is asleep, but i think it' possible to let it on the whole time.
Even if it is possible, your battery will drain much faster since the touchpad needs about 3-5mA when in use (read it somewhere on the synaptics homepage)
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I have an rooted "unrevoked 3.21" Incredible with the stock OTA 2.2 Froyo update on my phone. I haven't really done too much to tweak it but I did install ROMmanager and through there installed the optical trackpad wake function.
I knew going into it that people said that the wake function would be sporadic at best which seems to be my general observation. My questions is how come when my phone is either plugged into a wall charger or to the PC that the optical trackpad wake feature works every single time 100% on the first click like it was actually designed for this purpose but as soon as it is unplugged it will only work occasionally at best and sometimes requires me to hold the button down for nearly 8-9 seconds before it will actually wake?
I mean if it will wake every single time consistently when the phone is plugged into a charging source there has to be some reason or way to get it to function the same way when it is not plugged in. Right? There must be something about the phone being plugged into a charging source that is allowing the optical trackpad button to work every single time 100% consistently. I'm not a developer by any means but does anyone have any idea what would allow this to work perfectly when charging but then sporadically when unplugged and do you think there is any way to replicate this or fool the trackpad button to thinking it is always plugged in charging to get a consistent wake function out of the trackpad whether it is plugged in or not plugged in?
I don't expect this thread to go anywhere but if it does, thank you very much in advance...
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Well if it works 100% when plugged in then I would guess its a battery saving thing for it to not work
1967ls2 said:
I have an rooted "unrevoked 3.21" Incredible with the stock OTA 2.2 Froyo update on my phone. I haven't really done too much to tweak it but I did install ROMmanager and through there installed the optical trackpad wake function.
I knew going into it that people said that the wake function would be sporadic at best which seems to be my general observation. My questions is how come when my phone is either plugged into a wall charger or to the PC that the optical trackpad wake feature works every single time 100% on the first click like it was actually designed for this purpose but as soon as it is unplugged it will only work occasionally at best and sometimes requires me to hold the button down for nearly 8-9 seconds before it will actually wake?
I mean if it will wake every single time consistently when the phone is plugged into a charging source there has to be some reason or way to get it to function the same way when it is not plugged in. Right? There must be something about the phone being plugged into a charging source that is allowing the optical trackpad button to work every single time 100% consistently. I'm not a developer by any means but does anyone have any idea what would allow this to work perfectly when charging but then sporadically when unplugged and do you think there is any way to replicate this or fool the trackpad button to thinking it is always plugged in charging to get a consistent wake function out of the trackpad whether it is plugged in or not plugged in?
I don't expect this thread to go anywhere but if it does, thank you very much in advance...
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Well if it works 100% when plugged in then I would guess its a battery saving thing for it to not work
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Yeah it's freakin weird. Works every single time when it is plugged in to a charging source. There has to be a way to tell the optical trackpad that it is plugged in when it is not plugged in.
I have observed this as well. This must have to do with how the screen off mode operates under battery power vs on external power source. When on battery only power, some functions are probably checked for incoming commands at longer intervals. These same functions must be awake all the time under external power. So the solution would be to embed the trackpad to wake commands under the module which is on always whether under battery or external power.
Just my guess.
khanam said:
I have observed this as well. This must have to do with how the screen off mode operates under battery power vs on external power source. When on battery only power, some functions are probably checked for incoming commands at longer intervals. These same functions must be awake all the time under external power. So the solution would be to embed the trackpad to wake commands under the module which is on always whether under battery or external power.
Just my guess.
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That is exactly what I am thinking is going on here. For some reason when the phone is plugged into a charging source it allows the trackpad to wake instantly. When the phone is on internal battery power only there must be some sort of battery saving power function for the trackpad possibly to save battery power if there were any unintentional presses of the trackpad so that way no battery would be wasted while the phone is unplugged from a charger. Like I initially said I am no developer but how would I go about finding a way to attach the trackpad wake feature to that external power source command feature and tell the trackpad that it is always plugged into a charging source even though it is running on battery power only?
Is there a specific developer that would be best at this or somewhere particular that I could direct my question/theory to? Thanks again for the responses guys...
Id imagine if the optical trackpad were on at all times it would be registering the swipes up against our pant pockets, and that might use some unintentional battery juice.
Its just the nature of it. I doubt you could turn on the button pressing function without enabling the swipe actions as well.
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Div033 said:
Id imagine if the optical trackpad were on at all times it would be registering the swipes up against our pant pockets, and that might use some unintentional battery juice.
Its just the nature of it. I doubt you could turn on the button pressing function without enabling the swipe actions as well.
:/
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I think for what it's worth I would prefer to take my chance with a few unintentional swipes in my pocket if the phone would wake up consistently by pressing the optical trackpad button. That is definitely something I hadn't really thought about though and it make sense but I just hate the consistency issues.
Well if you swipe it, it doesn't do anything while the phone's screen is off, so I don't think it is registering the swipes at all, so technically enabling it should work. And we can always test to see if the swipes do waste the battery.
Try holding down the button until it wakes up, sometimes it requires a second or 2 to register (makes the failure rate close to 0)
Hi friends, i own a Defy on 2.1 Eclair, and i love it...But ther's one thing i hate: to wake up the phone from standby you always have to press the top power button, which is not very good to reach esp. if the phone is in the car dock. so i would like to change this function in that way that i touch the screen lets say 2x within 1 second to wake it up again from standby. is this possible?!? Hope someone has an idea
Pretty certain it can't be done.
To the best of my knowledge, when the screen is switched off, so is the digitizer.
Hi there guys,
i want to ask u if u know a way to remap physical key on galaxy nexus or another way to turn on from "standby" the cell without always pressing the power button...
i can think that fast it will be insible to touch after long use or continuisly press
thanks for your answer and tips about it
I'm not entirely sure what your asking. There are only 3 physical keys on the device and one of them needs to be used as the power button. If you mean turning the screen on by pressing the screen, this wouldn't make much sense as the screen needs to be on to detect touch.
only 2 physical keys...
1)power on/off button
2)volume
when the screen is black i can turn it on only by pressing the power button, i'm looking for another way to turn the screen on, ex. shacking the phone, pressing the screen, pressing volume key or etc...
The volume consists of 2 physical buttons...
All sensors are off by default when the screen is off. Turning these on would drain your battery dramatically.
If you were to change your power on button to one of your volume keys, what would be the point? You'd just lose the ability to change your volume easily and have a useless power button.
remap the volume key was just an example...
the matter is: is there any other way to turn on the screen without press the power button? with the constantly and massive use of it, it will become fragile and easy to break out.
i use volume up/down and power on /off randomly, all are enabled to wake up the device on aokp milestone 4. i think they may have designed the buttons to survive for quite some time since there is only 1 regular button for the job. other buttons on other phones dont just die and break out do they?
edit: by enabled i meant it is possible to select them as usable. stock doesnt have it afaik (didnt have stock long enough to find out)
cyanoviper said:
i use volume up/down and power on /off randomly, all are enabled to wake up the device on aokp milestone 4. i think they may have designed the buttons to survive for quite some time since there is only 1 regular button for the job. other buttons on other phones dont just die and break out do they?
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no, its an option in the Rom Controls under the lockscreen options menu.
Glados kernel has a touch wake option. You can set it for any length of time after the screen goes off. This will also prevent your phone from going into deep sleep so it can affect your battery.
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other buttons on other phones dont just die and break out do they?
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yes and this is the problem, my experience with other phones with "one function key" usually they break out "easily"
ok so from what u all wrote guys my only option is to root the phone and install a new rom with that "touch screen option"
can u indicate to me better where i can find the roms you are talking about? i'll appreciate it a lot
AOKP found in the development section
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Thank u all guys i can say this question is solved !!!
Hi guys,
Got my One X a few days ago and loving it so far! My only complaint is the position of the power button- seems like they put it in the most awkward place possible!
Does anyone know of a mod to use the volume keys, or a double tap, or something to wake the device, to save using the power button? I know there's alternatives to lock the device via apps, but it's more the unlocking I'm concerned with.
Surely I'm not the only one who needs this?!
Thanks in advance,
Neil
You can use Sweep2Wake. It wakes the device by sweeping over the touch buttons.
I have another issue with the placement of this button, or rather, how the button behaves. If I put my One X in my pocket with the button up, and then proceed to bend down and tie my shoelaces, the device will almost always reboot, this is because the button is being held down for something like 8 seconds, and it doesn't matter if the device is sleeping or not when I do it. This is because the button is acting like a power button does on a computer and I do understand the need for something like that, but having it bound to a single button? That is a bad idea. On iPhones you have to hold both the power and home buttons for 6 seconds to trigger a hardware power-off sequence. <-- this is how it should be done!
I hate where they positioned the button! I much prefer where samsung put it.
Same here got my HTC One X just two days and loving it but why they put the powerbutton on the right side is annoying, means I have to use two hands constantly to not drop the phone to the ground if would use one hand.
It's funny cause putting the button up top use to be norm for most cell phones
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Rekoil said:
You can use Sweep2Wake. It wakes the device by sweeping over the touch buttons.
Rekoil, that looks idea but is it only available with a custom ROM?
I flashed every other week on my Desire but don't fancy doing it just yet with my One X!
Neil
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Dear All;
As you might already know, double tap to wake function not very consistent(ofc better than previous ones but sometimes it stops working completely until you switch it on with power button).
I was trying to find what causes this and I might have found it. I can reproduce this problem every time with my phone but I need to know if your phones has the similar issue or not.
So... it is very simple, just power off your screen(not shut down) and rub your phone screen(like cleaning) with a thin cloth using your palm(or bare handed) for a time. Mostly fast 10 circular motion rubs would be enough but try a bit longer if it does not. Trick is to use all your palm not just fingers(covering your screen).
Then try to double tap to wake your phone.
Please let me know the results, I think digitizer is overflowing with inputs so disabling the function temporarily.
YES!! It most certainly does happen (after giving the screen a nice rub). After that it just doesn't want to work again until I manually turn it on.
Also, it works everytime without fail while charging. Maybe it has something to do with power management? It's also disabled in battery saver mode.
(Rooted Pixel XL with Elemental-X 1.08)
Possibly intentional?
imagine unlocking your phone and putting it in your pocket with the screen facing your leg. You know how it will take the heat from your leg and register touches? maybe this is a combatant against that.
if double tap always worked i could see my phone constantly waking up in my pocket ( like my old g2 and g3 ) and wasting battery.
try this. place the phone flat, give it a good rub, and double tap, if it dont work, stand the phone up and then try.