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nand backup from another phone

This might be a stupid question but I can I take a nand backup from one phone and restore it to another phone?
Not sure if there are any identifiers etc that won't match up.

MikeBrWade said:
This might be a stupid question but I can I take a nand backup from one phone and restore it to another phone?
Not sure if there are any identifiers etc that won't match up.
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Worked fine with me, nand backed up from my first one and restored on my second one.

Basically I wanna get mine all setup for my wife then back it up and dump it to hers. I realize I will not be able to set up the Google account sync etc but that's and easy fix on hers. Second question. Will my full nand rootand recovery follow? Guessing at least no on the recovery.
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I think you would need to do the NAND unlock too. I dont think the nandroid backup includes the engineering SPL... could be wrong though. You would also need to have the same recovery that you used to make the Nandroid backup

[Q] Flashing old nandroid on new phone?

I just got a replacement Incredible, and have rooted it. I have all the nandroids from my old phone -- can I flash them on my new one?

That's a good question. I'm inclined to think you can. Could try nandroiding current setup and flashing one.
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If your old phone is destroyed or will remain forever in your possession, then yes. If, on the other hand, it was sold, or relinquished to Verizon or Asurion and there's a chance that it will be repaired and given out as a CLNR, then I'd strongly advise against it.
When you install a nandroid from one phone onto another, you are also cloning the android_ID of the old phone onto it.

Flashing old nandroid on new phone?
Aha... I think I'll skip it, then. My phone had the 5-shakes-and-blinky-light-of-death. That seems to be terminal on the user-fixable front -- but I don't know if Verizon/HTC can get it up and running again.
najaboy said:
If your old phone is destroyed or will remain forever in your possession, then yes. If, on the other hand, it was sold, or relinquished to Verizon or Asurion and there's a chance that it will be repaired and given out as a CLNR, then I'd strongly advise against it.
When you install a nandroid from one phone onto another, you are also cloning the android_ID of the old phone onto it.
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[Q] Recover rom from non-root Desire

Title says it all.
I am new to the android world and the information you get from a google search is convoluted at best.
I have a desire that I rooted using UnRevoked3. I was however misled by all the research I did that I could make a backup of my system and data before the generic rom was flashed. I now have a rooted phone without any backup to revert back to.
My phone is Ntelos CDMA HTC Desire android 2.1
I do however have access to a non-rooted (same phone and network) phone if it is at all possible to recover the recovery and system partitions without rooting the phone my cousin will let me do so.
Can this be done? if so a detailed explanation of how to do it would be helpful.

waynestir said:
Title says it all.
I am new to the android world and the information you get from a google search is convoluted at best.
I have a desire that I rooted using UnRevoked3. I was however misled by all the research I did that I could make a backup of my system and data before the generic rom was flashed. I now have a rooted phone without any backup to revert back to.
My phone is Ntelos CDMA HTC Desire android 2.1
I do however have access to a non-rooted (same phone and network) phone if it is at all possible to recover the recovery and system partitions without rooting the phone my cousin will let me do so.
Can this be done? if so a detailed explanation of how to do it would be helpful.
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If I understand correctly you want to "unroot" you phone. This is done by installing htc Sync and running the appropriate RUU from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667.
Thre is no reason, besides the fact that you want to return your phone for warranty purposes and/or that you want to have stock system, for you to revert to stock.
Copying and pasting backups seems like a very bad idea since there might be subtle differences between phones which thus might generate more problems than it solves.
I'm not saying that it's not possible, it's not recommended. There are a bunch of other safer alternatives.

Yes I want to revert to stock rom which I no longer have. I just wanted to experiment a little. I never would have done in the first place had I known there would be no going back.
There are no stock roms availibe for my phone. I need a RUU from Ntelos not verison or USCC.

No need to, you can't backup a unrooted rom. Since you are already rooted just make a nandroid of that rom to revert to. Only when things go really wrong you need to use the ruu.
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TheGhost1233 said:
No need to, you can't backup a unrooted rom. Since you are already rooted just make a nandroid of that rom to revert to. Only when things go really wrong you need to use the ruu.
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No its just that nobody has sorted out how. I ran the US Cellular update on my phone and got a stock USSC non-root phone working on Ntelos network. I then ran root again to get my data back of course.
Their app runs on windows pc and doesn't require special access such as root. All the capability is there I'm sure. just under lock and key.

waynestir said:
No its just that nobody has sorted out how. I ran the US Cellular update on my phone and got a stock USSC non-root phone working on Ntelos network. I then ran root again to get my data back of course.
Their app runs on windows pc and doesn't require special access such as root. All the capability is there I'm sure. just under lock and key.
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What do you mean by getting your data back ? All your data is lost (contacts, apps, messages, etc) when you flash a new ROM. The only things that stay intact are those which you have saved on your SD.

There are plenty of ways to backup stuff from unrooted devices. However non of them provide any useful safety backup regarding rooting or flashing.
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paul.c said:
What do you mean by getting your data back ? All your data is lost (contacts, apps, messages, etc) when you flash a new ROM. The only things that stay intact are those which you have saved on your SD.
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from a backup that I had made prior to flash.

TheGhost1233 said:
There are plenty of ways to backup stuff from unrooted devices. However non of them provide any useful safety backup regarding rooting or flashing.
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If there are ways then that is what I am looking for. I have no memory of Unix/Linux command line. I'm sure I have a text laying around somewhere and could refresh my memory. However I elect to ask those in the know to guide me.
I simply want to get a stock system rom from the same make and model phone on the same network without voiding the warranty on that phone. My service provider had very little bloat ware and didn't remove apps that I found missing in the verizon/US Cell stock roms. My phone being root or not is not the question. For that I don't care accept if I ever need warranty work done. And that is just my luck sometimes so.. better safe than sorry.

Clockwork Recovery

I have a question on restoring a stock rom with clockwork...
Im going to do a backup of my current stock rom (in case i want to go back from CM7 to what i have now, which is stock...havent even rooted yet)
My problem is that, while searching the forum, i came across this post, which scared me a bit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
So, my question is, if i do a backup of my current situation, and then when i go back i just restore the said backup, do i have any chances of having the problem mentioned in the thread i posted above??
Thanks all in advance!

coldsun15 said:
I have a question on restoring a stock rom with clockwork...
Im going to do a backup of my current stock rom (in case i want to go back from CM7 to what i have now, which is stock...havent even rooted yet)
My problem is that, while searching the forum, i came across this post, which scared me a bit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
So, my question is, if i do a backup of my current situation, and then when i go back i just restore the said backup, do i have any chances of having the problem mentioned in the thread i posted above??
Thanks all in advance!
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What you're talking about is making and/or restoring a nandroid backup of your current system, what that thread is talking about is something entirely different. There's no problem restoring your stock nandroid, I've had to in the past when I've needed to pull some apps out of it.
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OriginalGabriel said:
What you're talking about is making and/or restoring a nandroid backup of your current system, what that thread is talking about is something entirely different. There's no problem restoring your stock nandroid, I've had to in the past when I've needed to pull some apps out of it.
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thanks!!!
one more question though, just to have things clear... if i were to go back to the way i am now, and unroot and everything... i would have no problem in restoring the backup and then just unrooting?? simple as that?
thanks!

It would be slightly different. Firstly I can't imagine you needing to go back to stock unless for warranty cause there are stock rooted Roms available, but there are also instructions for unrooting around here somewhere

noneabove said:
It would be slightly different. Firstly I can't imagine you needing to go back to stock unless for warranty cause there are stock rooted Roms available, but there are also instructions for unrooting around here somewhere
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hey, first things first, thanks for the answer
secondly, i do understand the procedure to be different, what i meant was, if i restore my own nandroid stock backup (the one i created myslef), once restored, i'll still be rooted, right? (with s-off and stuff)
thanks

Well considering you could only actually make the Nandroid backup with a rooted rom, yes it still will be when restored it took me awhile to get used to this too, when you do a restore, save for your SD, your phone will LITERALLY be EXACTLY the same as when you did the backup (also save for any corruption that could occur, but if it's an important backup then put it on your computer )

noneabove said:
Well considering you could only actually make the Nandroid backup with a rooted rom, yes it still will be when restored it took me awhile to get used to this too, when you do a restore, save for your SD, your phone will LITERALLY be EXACTLY the same as when you did the backup (also save for any corruption that could occur, but if it's an important backup then put it on your computer )
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Thanks a lot!! really cleared stuff up!!

noneabove said:
Well considering you could only actually make the Nandroid backup with a rooted rom, yes it still will be when restored it took me awhile to get used to this too, when you do a restore, save for your SD, your phone will LITERALLY be EXACTLY the same as when you did the backup (also save for any corruption that could occur, but if it's an important backup then put it on your computer )
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Sorry, i just have another question (total noob here, hehehe), is root the same as getting s-off? or are they completely different things?
Cause, if i just root (keeping s-on (if its even possible)) and do a nandroid backup, and then i do the s-off... when i restore, id have root, but s-on, right?? and wouldnt that be just the same problem as the one stated in the thread i posted in the first post??
sorry again, i know im probably making a big mess out of something relatively simple...
thanks in advance

No no, it's natural to be worried the problem that what you posted talks about its trying to install the official OTA rom while s-off which you won't be doing anyways and while s-off isn't the same as rooting I believe you need s-off to root.. I'll do a bit of research in the morning but in the mean time take a look an see what you can learn on your own

Great, thanks!!! if u find out anything else, please dont doubt in sharing!! everything is welcome!!

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First Custom Rom Installation!!!

So I just bought my first Android phone in August and am loving it. Coming from having every Iphone since their launch, I was skeptical but I was sick of seeing larger and faster phones other than the Iphone and Apple refusing to match them. Anyways, I have gotten impatient for the 4.1 Jelly Bean update for our phones, so I installed my first ROM today (CM 10). It actually was quite a breeze and was very satisfied with it. I downloaded the ROM Manager app and it did everything for me in about 10 minutes! I've got a couple of quick questions:
1) If and when I want to go back to the standard Samsung, do I just use the backup I made?
2) If I install a new ROM based off a newer version of the nightlies, do I have to re-arrange and install everything again?
Thanks guys!

If you made a nandroid backup of the stock rom then yes, you can restore it.
To install a new cm10 update, wipe cache/dalvik cache/system. Then install the rom. There is no need to do a factory wipe unless instructed to.

dano9258 said:
So I just bought my first Android phone in August and am loving it. Coming from having every Iphone since their launch, I was skeptical but I was sick of seeing larger and faster phones other than the Iphone and Apple refusing to match them. Anyways, I have gotten impatient for the 4.1 Jelly Bean update for our phones, so I installed my first ROM today (CM 10). It actually was quite a breeze and was very satisfied with it. I downloaded the ROM Manager app and it did everything for me in about 10 minutes! I've got a couple of quick questions:
1) If and when I want to go back to the standard Samsung, do I just use the backup I made?
2) If I install a new ROM based off a newer version of the nightlies, do I have to re-arrange and install everything again?
Thanks guys!
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this should probably be in Q & A but
1) yes the best way to go back to stock is to flash the nandroid backup you made.
2) when updating to a newer version of cm10 you can usually just wipe cache & dalvik and flash the new nightly, unless it specifies you should do a full wipe. however you should do a full wipe every now and then or you might start to see some bugs that other people aren't seeing.
also always full wipe when flashing a different rom.

Question
Hey,
Do you loose warranty even if you have full nand backup and you restore it before sending the phone back?
Thanks,

djaswal said:
Hey,
Do you loose warranty even if you have full nand backup and you restore it before sending the phone back?
Thanks,
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I believe so, once you root they will always know

djaswal said:
Hey,
Do you loose warranty even if you have full nand backup and you restore it before sending the phone back?
Thanks,
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Just restore back to full stock using ODIN and you're good to go.
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They have to prove that rooting your phone broke it in order to void your warranty.

dano9258 said:
I believe so, once you root they will always know
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That is not true.
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I believe if you root using the no trip method (in android development) then you should be fine. Also I think there are methods to reset the flash counter.
Also if you send in your phone for replacement or hardware repair they don't check if your rooted or not. I replaced my atrix and I sent my old one back rooted (out of ignorance back then) and never had problem.
Although with the addition of the flash counter feature this year from Samsung / at&t, it leads me to believe that they are cracking down more nowadays

Yea... rooting your phone would not void the warranty. Jailbreaking/Rooting was made legal (as an exemption of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act's anti-circumvention provisions... pretty much the only time Apple was ever basically told to "F*ck off*... which you can read the info about Here and which I don't recall actually being revoked). Even if they did somehow try to claim that rooting the phone voided the warranty, the Magnuson-Moss Act would essentially require them to prove without a reasonable doubt that something relating to root privilege caused the failure... which they'd probably be pretty hard-pressed to do.

What is the big deal anyways? As long as your careful and make backups you should be fine. If the phone fails and stops working, get another phone because obviously the one you had is a piece of crap! http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif