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how to remove nandroid and go back to stock froyo

I know i will get trashed for this post. but i am just not sure and do not want to brick my phone
i recently had speaker problems with my evo and dirt under my screen. So i need to return my phone and get a new one.
how can i get rid of nandroid and flash the ota froyo rom and have it back to stock.
do i run this
PC36IMG.zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915&highlight=froyo

you want to unroot? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743192

If your going through HTC directly just return your phone as is. They don't really care about the software if the replacement is due to a hardware issue. I'm not sure if sprint will be as finicky but my guess is they will be about the same.
What I've done is go to a sprint repair center. They tend to be fairly intelligent and generally swap right there.

Why would you get trashed for asking a question like that? The only reason I could see would be that it should be under the Q&A section, but if you think you'd get trashed because you asked a question about unrooting, I would like to know who's been giving this community a bad name. Not that I could do anything about it, but I like to think that we're pretty friendly here.

quietpopcorn said:
Why would you get trashed for asking a question like that? The only reason I could see would be that it should be under the Q&A section, but if you think you'd get trashed because you asked a question about unrooting, I would like to know who's been giving this community a bad name. Not that I could do anything about it, but I like to think that we're pretty friendly here.
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Ageed. Theres nothing wrong with unrooting especially if you are trying to get a replacement.

Run the RUU ?? I think that should put you back to unrooted stock.

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martijua said:
Run the RUU ?? I think that should put you back to unrooted stock.
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Dont run any RUU you wont get it up and running anymore.

Hi, I am unable to hookup to my laptop due to usb port loose/faulty connection. I will be taking phone back to BestBuy to either fix or replace. Well- would like to anyways. So how would I do this if I cannot run the ruu or HTC sync? Could I just put the step 2 pcimg. On my sdcard and flash that? I was unable to get my pri to update so I have flashed the zip file that just changes the numbers to be correct.
Thanks for any help.
J
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Run the official RUU.
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[Q] Getting replacement desire, need to backup!

Unfortunately I cracked the digitizer on my Desire and I'm not really willing to buy a digitizer and then fit it myself in case I do break the phone as obviously my tinkering will void my warranty. So instead I have chosen to get a replacement from Orange. That is £160 and then at least 6 months insurance coming in at £6 a month. For me, a college student, it is the only viable option
Anyway, I am rooted on OpenDesire. If I want my new handset to be in exactly the same state as my current Desire, do I just need to do a complete backup with Titanium Backup onto my microSD, root the new phone with OpenDesire then restore all settings and programs from the backup on my SD? Obviously some things won't be exactly the same such as custom icons but I can redo that myself.
Also, do you think I should restore the Orange rom etc and unroot the phone before returning it?
Thanks in advance, Jake.

Hi
Be sure you unrooted the phone before returning it, its always better. According to the backup, make a nandroid backup, then unroot, after getting the phone back repaired root again and restore from the nandroid backup you made. Everything should be exactly the same as it was when you made the backup
However,wait at least for one another person to support my thought
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.:george:. said:
Hi
Be sure you unrooted the phone before returning it, its always better. According to the backup, make a nandroid backup, then unroot, after getting the phone back repaired root again and restore from the nandroid backup you made. Everything should be exactly the same as it was when you made the backup
However,wait at least for one another person to support my thought
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Sounds like good advice

considering buying an evo

Hi all,
Considering picking up an EVO to replace my touch pro2. If not evo, then an epic.
I was just wondering if there's a good intro link i should read up on, especially as far as installing custom rom's etc goes. I believe i need to get root access on the phone to do that, correct? is there a beginners guide on how to do that? Or a guide on available custom ROM's?
thanks

merkk said:
Hi all,
Considering picking up an EVO to replace my touch pro2. If not evo, then an epic.
I was just wondering if there's a good intro link i should read up on, especially as far as installing custom rom's etc goes. I believe i need to get root access on the phone to do that, correct? is there a beginners guide on how to do that? Or a guide on available custom ROM's?
thanks
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just peruse the development forums for the Evo- each link is either a custom rom available, or a root method. Read through the root methods on how to go about rooting and nand unlocking the evo.

Check the wiki first - it will point you to all of the roms, radios, tutorials, etc.
The best place to get all of that info is the wiki, the stickies, and this thread, which benchmarks over 40 kernels and will help you choose the ones you want to try. If you don't quite understand all of the data in that thread (and the website it point you to), it will make more sense once you go through the wiki and stickies.
some quick answers - you do need to be rooted to flash a rom, which may or may not come with a custom kernel that breaks the fps cap, and may or may not be over/underclocked. If you don't like the kernel the rom comes with, try another, until you find a combo that works best with your phone (because not all evo's are created equal).
Most important thing to know is nand backup (with either amon ra, or clockwork/rom manager) before flashing ANYTHING.

nand backup? does that backup the original rom of the phone in case i muck something up and need to restore it? or should i just go RTFM before i ask more questions?

merkk said:
nand backup? does that backup the original rom of the phone in case i muck something up and need to restore it? or should i just go RTFM before i ask more questions?
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Yes, and yes.

merkk said:
nand backup? does that backup the original rom of the phone in case i muck something up and need to restore it? or should i just go RTFM before i ask more questions?
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lol, yeah, do your reading so you understand everything before you actually do anything. One of the subpages has a sticky on common misconceptions. It's pretty good, and someone posted a set of questions in that thread that you should be comfortable answering before you attempt root.
As far as nand goes, it backs up the current state (like a restore point in windows) of the phone at that time - so do one right before you flash anything, weather its a new Rom, kernel, radio, etc. That way if you run into bootloops or something, you can always go back to a working version of your Rom.
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rugedraw said:
Yes, and yes.
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Not true. It doesn't back up your original rom, just whichever one you have on it when you back it up.
IE you can't do a nand backup of a completely stock unrooted rom. You have to root in order to install the custom recovery which will allow you to back up
There are a few posts that explain how to unroot. The easiest way I have found is to run the first part of SimpleRoot then run the RUU program that you can find in various places in the forum.
Also a good habit to get into is wiping before you flash. It's a pain for having to backup settings, but I've had to unroot and reroot a few times because my 4g would get borked and stuff like that.

ok - one last question, i promise (maybe). Does the method of rooting change significantly from phone to phone? i.e. if i get an epic instead of an evo, will that make much of a difference? My guess would be no since they are running the same OS. I'm still not sure if i want an evo or epic. Gonna try and take a look at them both when i head out for lunch.

FattySparks said:
Not true. It doesn't back up your original rom, just whichever one you have on it when you back it up.
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The OP is new; not new to planet Earth. Obviously it's going to back up whatever you have on it.

merkk said:
ok - one last question, i promise (maybe). Does the method of rooting change significantly from phone to phone? i.e. if i get an epic instead of an evo, will that make much of a difference? My guess would be no since they are running the same OS. I'm still not sure if i want an evo or epic. Gonna try and take a look at them both when i head out for lunch.
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they can vary. like for the evo all you have to do is click a button now and your are rooted. go to the epic forums to see how they work. there are a lot of complaints w/ the epic for data uploads and gps. but then again the evo had problems when it first came out too. (now it's awesome )

rugedraw said:
The OP is new; not new to planet Earth. Obviously it's going to back up whatever you have on it.
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the OP said will it back up your original rom. No it does not. It backs up the custom rom that you put on in order to root.
The OP may not have known that, and I really don't appreciate your snide remark when all I'm trying to do is help someone out.

rugedraw said:
The OP is new; not new to planet Earth. Obviously it's going to back up whatever you have on it.
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LoL. Thanks. And yeah - i meant it would back up whatever is currently on the phone when you run it. Obviously if i need to root the phone before using that particular backup utility, it wont be backing up the original rom.

FattySparks said:
the OP said will it back up your original rom. No it does not. It backs up the custom rom that you put on in order to root.
The OP may not have known that, and I really don't appreciate your snide remark when all I'm trying to do is help someone out.
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I appreciate both your comments. I wasn't aware that that backup utility required the phone to be rooted first before using it. So I assumed i could install it unrooted, and use it to backup the phone. I do realize though that it's not going to be able to backup something that''s already changed before i install the backup program.

FattySparks said:
the OP said will it back up your original rom. No it does not. It backs up the custom rom that you put on in order to root.
The OP may not have known that, and I really don't appreciate your snide remark when all I'm trying to do is help someone out.
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Ok, then let me put it another way:
In order to create a nand back up, your phone is already rooted with nand unlocked one way or another. In which case, the "original" rom is not even on the phone. If the original rom was on the phone, you wouldn't be able to back it up anyway, so by definition, what I said is correct.
I assumed the OP meant whatever rom he was on before he started experimenting with roms. I wasn't trying to be snide; my apologies if I came across that way. Maybe next time I'll put a smiley face next to my comments so they aren't taken out of context.
merkk said:
I appreciate both your comments. I wasn't aware that that backup utility required the phone to be rooted first before using it. So I assumed i could install it unrooted, and use it to backup the phone. I do realize though that it's not going to be able to backup something that''s already changed before i install the backup program.
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Apparently, both FattySparks and I were wrong. lol Yes, your phone needs to already be fully rooted to back up a rom, because it requires reading/writing from/to the system. However, once you root the phone and unlock nand, the back up you create will not be the original rom anymore. The original rom is available (called an RUU) if you search the Evo development section.

ok got it - thanks for the info/explanations

Best phone I have ever had, by far...love it.

Just got the phone yesterday and so far I like it. I really don't like the on screen keyboard though . but the speech to text kind of makes up for that
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Evo Unroot Repair

So my Evo charger port has been broken for awhile and I finally have the chance to take it in tomorrow to see if they will repair it under warranty. I obviously have to unroot it for them to do this, since I'm on CM7 right now.
So I'm a little confused - I flash the PCIMG to unroot but after I need to go to a stock sense rom. The stock rom threads have been saying if I flash them, I won't be able to re-root my phone. They will probably just repair my phone so I want to be able to root it afterwards.
So what am I suppose to do in this situation? They said they would fix my phone in under and hour if there is a problem.

ipractice said:
So my Evo charger port has been broken for awhile and I finally have the chance to take it in tomorrow to see if they will repair it under warranty. I obviously have to unroot it for them to do this, since I'm on CM7 right now.
So I'm a little confused - I flash the PCIMG to unroot but after I need to go to a stock sense rom. The stock rom threads have been saying if I flash them, I won't be able to re-root my phone. They will probably just repair my phone so I want to be able to root it afterwards.
So what am I suppose to do in this situation? They said they would fix my phone in under and hour if there is a problem.
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you will be able to re root again after you get it worked on, no worries. All of the Evo software that is currently available is rootable.
Unrooting is easy, and basically two steps. First, if you rooted with unrevoked, or ever flashed the Unrevoked Forever tool, then you first need to flash the unrevoked S on tool. That will turn your S on. After you flash it, go to the bootloader, and confirm that your S is On. Once that's set, download the PC36IMG, and put it on the main directory of your sd card (not in any folders) Be sure it's named exactly PC36IMG (capitals matter, must be all caps). THen boot into the bootloader, and at that piont the bootloader should find the PC36IMG file, and ask you to update. Press Volume up to say yes. Once it's done flashing, when you reboot you'll be back on a stock sense rom, s on, and ready to take it in for service. You'll be able to root again afterwards using any of the current available methods. Good luck.
PC36IMG's and RUU's:: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu
Unrevoked forever S on tool attatched below.

unfortunately there (to my knowledge) isnt a way to "repair" your charging port since this is a known issue with the HTC EVO.. i know because I work for Sprint. Unless they have someone there that can sauder your port back on or anything like that your probably just going to get a new phone. what i would tell you to do is unroot it, let them order a new device or swap one out and root that one..just some food for thought.

dgomez720 said:
unfortunately there (to my knowledge) isnt a way to "repair" your charging port since this is a known issue with the HTC EVO.. i know because I work for Sprint. Unless they have someone there that can sauder your port back on or anything like that your probably just going to get a new phone. what i would tell you to do is unroot it, let them order a new device or swap one out and root that one..just some food for thought.
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You must work in a call center.
Evo charging port durability is a known issue. Since it is hardware, a technician cannot reject the device due to being rooted, only if it is a software issue.

You're going to get a new phone, they cannot fix the port as others have mentioned. Don't worry about how easy it will be to root again, as you'll have a different phone anyway.

No i don't actually. and yes I do realize that unless its a SW issue we will work on it. I have done it many a times. If we end up having to swap the device out it must come back with the same SW as it left when you first bought it. Its just our M&P. some of our rf testers will not read rooted devices which is why we don't.. We are required to test every aspect of the device from radio to Screen.
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First Custom Rom Installation!!!

So I just bought my first Android phone in August and am loving it. Coming from having every Iphone since their launch, I was skeptical but I was sick of seeing larger and faster phones other than the Iphone and Apple refusing to match them. Anyways, I have gotten impatient for the 4.1 Jelly Bean update for our phones, so I installed my first ROM today (CM 10). It actually was quite a breeze and was very satisfied with it. I downloaded the ROM Manager app and it did everything for me in about 10 minutes! I've got a couple of quick questions:
1) If and when I want to go back to the standard Samsung, do I just use the backup I made?
2) If I install a new ROM based off a newer version of the nightlies, do I have to re-arrange and install everything again?
Thanks guys!

If you made a nandroid backup of the stock rom then yes, you can restore it.
To install a new cm10 update, wipe cache/dalvik cache/system. Then install the rom. There is no need to do a factory wipe unless instructed to.

dano9258 said:
So I just bought my first Android phone in August and am loving it. Coming from having every Iphone since their launch, I was skeptical but I was sick of seeing larger and faster phones other than the Iphone and Apple refusing to match them. Anyways, I have gotten impatient for the 4.1 Jelly Bean update for our phones, so I installed my first ROM today (CM 10). It actually was quite a breeze and was very satisfied with it. I downloaded the ROM Manager app and it did everything for me in about 10 minutes! I've got a couple of quick questions:
1) If and when I want to go back to the standard Samsung, do I just use the backup I made?
2) If I install a new ROM based off a newer version of the nightlies, do I have to re-arrange and install everything again?
Thanks guys!
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this should probably be in Q & A but
1) yes the best way to go back to stock is to flash the nandroid backup you made.
2) when updating to a newer version of cm10 you can usually just wipe cache & dalvik and flash the new nightly, unless it specifies you should do a full wipe. however you should do a full wipe every now and then or you might start to see some bugs that other people aren't seeing.
also always full wipe when flashing a different rom.

Question
Hey,
Do you loose warranty even if you have full nand backup and you restore it before sending the phone back?
Thanks,

djaswal said:
Hey,
Do you loose warranty even if you have full nand backup and you restore it before sending the phone back?
Thanks,
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I believe so, once you root they will always know

djaswal said:
Hey,
Do you loose warranty even if you have full nand backup and you restore it before sending the phone back?
Thanks,
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Just restore back to full stock using ODIN and you're good to go.
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They have to prove that rooting your phone broke it in order to void your warranty.

dano9258 said:
I believe so, once you root they will always know
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That is not true.
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I believe if you root using the no trip method (in android development) then you should be fine. Also I think there are methods to reset the flash counter.
Also if you send in your phone for replacement or hardware repair they don't check if your rooted or not. I replaced my atrix and I sent my old one back rooted (out of ignorance back then) and never had problem.
Although with the addition of the flash counter feature this year from Samsung / at&t, it leads me to believe that they are cracking down more nowadays

Yea... rooting your phone would not void the warranty. Jailbreaking/Rooting was made legal (as an exemption of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act's anti-circumvention provisions... pretty much the only time Apple was ever basically told to "F*ck off*... which you can read the info about Here and which I don't recall actually being revoked). Even if they did somehow try to claim that rooting the phone voided the warranty, the Magnuson-Moss Act would essentially require them to prove without a reasonable doubt that something relating to root privilege caused the failure... which they'd probably be pretty hard-pressed to do.

What is the big deal anyways? As long as your careful and make backups you should be fine. If the phone fails and stops working, get another phone because obviously the one you had is a piece of crap! http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif