Hi there,
in the googd old days when i was on board porting android to HTC Kaiser / Vogue we optimized the png files in the apks for the smaller resolution of the Kaiser/Vogue.
Due to the fact that the desire HD has a higher resolution than Desire, couldn't we optimize the new sense graphics, too?
So we could save more space and bring more things direct to the phone instead of the sd card which is slower than internal nand.
I found this:
http://www.aboutonlinetips.com/optimize-and-compress-png-files/
maybe it's a good starting point, next thing is that it would save ram on the device due to a smaller size...
JeckyllHavok said:
Hi there,
in the googd old days when i was on board porting android to HTC Kaiser / Vogue we optimized the png files in the apks for the smaller resolution of the Kaiser/Vogue.
Due to the fact that the desire HD has a higher resolution than Desire, couldn't we optimize the new sense graphics, too?
So we could save more space and bring more things direct to the phone instead of the sd card which is slower than internal nand.
I found this:
http://www.aboutonlinetips.com/optimize-and-compress-png-files/
maybe it's a good starting point, next thing is that it would save ram on the device due to a smaller size...
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Its the same resolution i thought? WVGA
Just a bigger screen diameter.
ratchetnclank said:
Its the same resolution i thought? WVGA
Just a bigger screen diameter.
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Yeah, It says so when I Googled lol.
Otherwise porting it would have been a whole other story
Desire HD has a higher dpi as far as i know... correct me if i'm wrong
HTC Desire:
# Size: 3.7 inches
# Resolution: 480 X 800 WVGA
HTC Desire HD:
# Size: 4.3 inches
# Resolution: 480 x 800 WVGA
source htc.com
so the Desire HD hast actually less dpi.
bye
olaxe said:
HTC Desire:
# Size: 3.7 inches
# Resolution: 480 X 800 WVGA
HTC Desire HD:
# Size: 4.3 inches
# Resolution: 480 x 800 WVGA
source htc.com
so the Desire HD hast actually less dpi.
bye
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yeah right .. thats the point where most of people are confused. dpi = dots per ich ... so if u got same resolution on bigger screen u got less dpi
Ok So this topic is pretty irrelevant... Nice try anyway
Has someone run the apks through OptiPng yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560271
Might save a few tens of megs if you're lucky. I use this on my ROMs for hero, and it certainly saves a little space. And it's nothing to do with resolution etc, can't remember technical details but I think it's to do with compression of the png file itself. Certainly doesn't reduce quality AFAIK.
Thought I'd mention it in case someone wants to try it.
Well I made the ROM fit on the system partition, but I had to remove A LOT of stuff. (Laputa, all LWPs, the eReader, Adobe Reader, the Slate theme, some other apps I can't remember atm, basically all apps that can be downloaded through the market, some junk resource files and all libraries that are connected to the removed apps.)
After installing and setting up my accounts I replaced the HTC_IME (7MB) with the smaller (and better) HTC_IME mod (4MB).
I also odexed the remaining system apps and used a fusecompress init script to compress the dalvik-cache. (to save some space on /data).
All in all, it works great, but I'm sure optimizing the pngs would save even more space and improve the system's load/performance.
I'm already thinking about pre-compressing the framework files and mounting them using fuse on boot (like I do with the dalvik-cache).
running 191. MB ownhereHD Rom without extPart
SORRY SORRY SORRY I totaly got lost in the Tab jungel of my browser and posted this exidentaly here:
I am running the rom that ist urned into a flashable Zip by NeoPhyTe.x360
on my desire without having an ExtPartition at all.
I just got rid of the following:
live wallpapers + Wallpapers [Exept the 1 that is used on default]
Ringtones + Alarms [Exept the 1 that is used on default]
also I got rid of the thems that come with the new HD-Sense
in Programms I actually got rid of every prog that I dont use [Like, Carstuff, Stock, Flickr, a few widgets because I use others from the market anyway, etc,...]
and also all that I can get from the market
after flashing I had to install a few things that I need manualy
I am a total newbee when it comes to android system but I think if one just could strip the hole thing to the bones, with only Sense, and superuser and also delet everthing that we can get on the market it would become even smaler.
beidl said:
Well I made the ROM fit on the system partition, but I had to remove A LOT of stuff. (Laputa, all LWPs, the eReader, Adobe Reader, the Slate theme, some other apps I can't remember atm, basically all apps that can be downloaded through the market, some junk resource files and all libraries that are connected to the removed apps.)
After installing and setting up my accounts I replaced the HTC_IME (7MB) with the smaller (and better) HTC_IME mod (4MB).
I also odexed the remaining system apps and used a fusecompress init script to compress the dalvik-cache. (to save some space on /data).
All in all, it works great, but I'm sure optimizing the pngs would save even more space and improve the system's load/performance.
I'm already thinking about pre-compressing the framework files and mounting them using fuse on boot (like I do with the dalvik-cache).
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If we get an s-off bootloader will that help Beidl? I remember like 2 weeks ago someone showed progress on this but noting since...
Size matters
so how big/ smal did your zip file became?
s.
beidl said:
Well I made the ROM fit on the system partition, but I had to remove A LOT of stuff. (Laputa, all LWPs, the eReader, Adobe Reader, the Slate theme, some other apps I can't remember atm, basically all apps that can be downloaded through the market, some junk resource files and all libraries that are connected to the removed apps.)
After installing and setting up my accounts I replaced the HTC_IME (7MB) with the smaller (and better) HTC_IME mod (4MB).
I also odexed the remaining system apps and used a fusecompress init script to compress the dalvik-cache. (to save some space on /data).
All in all, it works great, but I'm sure optimizing the pngs would save even more space and improve the system's load/performance.
I'm already thinking about pre-compressing the framework files and mounting them using fuse on boot (like I do with the dalvik-cache).
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s.zamani said:
so how big/ smal did your zip file became?
s.
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I didn't make a flashable zip file yet but df says I have around 2 MB left on /system.
If the system partition didn't have some bad blocks, I would've been able to get more things onto it.
Compressing the apks really helps. I've just finished compressing all of the apks in /system/app and /data/app coming from the Aurax ROM and added the ones that had been removed from the original Ownhere ROM. 120Mb got compressed to 94Mb . Right now i'm compressing framework-res and com.htc.resources.
MacCarron said:
Compressing the apks really helps. I've just finished compressing all of the apks in /system/app and /data/app coming from the Aurax ROM and added the ones that had been removed from the original Ownhere ROM. 120Mb got compressed to 94Mb . Right now i'm compressing framework-res and com.htc.resources.
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Sounds great, a quarter of saved space..
JeckyllHavok said:
Sounds great, a quarter of saved space..
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Ok i'm done. I removed (as i do not use them):
all the wallpapers (copied them to fat partition)
all themes except for slate
google car home
amazon mp3
SoundHound
Genie Widget
HTC Mail + Widget (i use the gmail app)
Then added back all of the HTC Navigation apks and libs, moved some stuff from /system to /data and vice-versa, compressed all of the apps + framework apks.
Result:
/system: 225Mb
/data: 33Mb
MacCarron said:
Ok i'm done. I removed (as i do not use them):
all the wallpapers (copied them to fat partition)
all themes except for slate
google car home
amazon mp3
SoundHound
Genie Widget
HTC Mail + Widget (i use the gmail app)
Then added back all of the HTC Navigation apks and libs, moved some stuff from /system to /data and vice-versa, compressed all of the apps + framework apks.
Result:
/system: 225Mb
/data: 33Mb
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That's a step in the right direction at least
Awesome.
zHk3R said:
That's a step in the right direction at least
Awesome.
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I just flashed my compressed rom and maybe it's just a placebo, but it does feel snappier . I'm having troubles with the HTC Nav service though, can't get it to work..i restored the 4 apks (HTCLaputa, HTCLaputaInstaller,HTCLaputaWidget and LocationPickerLaputa) and libLaputaEngine.so, but it still fces on startup..do you have any clues? I just asked NeoPhyte, maybe he can shed some light..
edit: 1270 quadrant, i dont remember what i got before though..
MacCarron said:
I just flashed my compressed rom and maybe it's just a placebo, but it does feel snappier . I'm having troubles with the HTC Nav service though, can't get it to work..i restored the 4 apks (HTCLaputa, HTCLaputaInstaller,HTCLaputaWidget and LocationPickerLaputa) and libLaputaEngine.so, but it still fces on startup..do you have any clues? I just asked NeoPhyte, maybe he can shed some light..
edit: 1270 quadrant, i dont remember what i got before though..
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I don't know exactly - But it seems as though there are some .apks that are co-dependent on each other. That's why you might get the FCs..
That's sweet dude. I've got the original ROM by ownhere and it's not laggy at all, though.
I've just managed to shave 20mb+ off without deleting anything.
I'm still working on reducing it further... give me until tomorrow and I'll release VillainROM's version
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Hi folks,
I thought this phone had like 500MB odd for apps storage?
I've just checked my space left on internal memory and its like 18MB.... thought this is strange.
Installed Linda File Manager, under Applications it says 133M / 147M - 90%
A big WTF???? What is going on here????
This is what I expected with my Hero, but the Desire? Something has to be wrong.
Where do you think Android OS resides? it takes most of the space.
the allowable rom for apps is a little above 100MB
irkan said:
Where do you think Android OS resides? it takes most of the space.
the allowable rom for apps is a little above 100MB
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Arf!!! Thought it would be more than that. Sheesh!!!
I have 150MB spare on my Hero.
I don't see a problem here. When I was still on G1, I had 256 MB partition for APPS2SD and I never went over 100 MB.
Of course, that depends on everyone's personal use case.
irkan said:
Where do you think Android OS resides? it takes most of the space.
the allowable rom for apps is a little above 100MB
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I believe this is wrong although I've had very busy weekend and had no time to look into it.
I think android OS in the 512MB ROM. I think the reason the RAM is nearly full from the word go is that it is full of Sence UI and the apps that HTC has installed. Most of these can't be uninstalled, yet.
I'm confused: are we talking about ROM - where Android OS, Sense UI, apps, etc are stored, or RAM - "working" memory?
I also have ~100+ MB of RAM left and I totally forgot that total amount is over 500 MB.
But then coming back to G1, it had 192 MB of RAM and I never had more than 30 free.
So basically the Rom, Sense UI, and all the HTC apps / widgets take up 350MB?
Wtf!! Way to go HTC, tout 512MB rom and then leave you with 150MB.
Can't wait to root this phone now.
Let's hope Android 2.2 or 3.0 supports Apps on SD and HTC will port it.
~100Mb Free Space only with preinstalled HTC Apps and Android is not very much
seems like i dont understand something
is it not possible to install the apps onto a memory card?! does rooting allow to do that?
Arthur Hucksake said:
So basically the Rom, Sense UI, and all the HTC apps / widgets take up 350MB?
Wtf!! Way to go HTC, tout 512MB rom and then leave you with 150MB.
Can't wait to root this phone now.
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No you have definitely misunderstood.
The ROM is 512MB
The RAM is 576MB
Android is in the ROM You don't have access to the ROM through any file explorer (may be possible once rooted). It wont be long before the device is rooted (hopefully) and then custom ROMs can be used and it may even be possible to reduce the size of the ROM and increase the size of the RAM.
Sence UI and apps (HTC or otherwise) are in the RAM. Once we have root acccess it should be fairly easy to place apps on the SD card by using symbolic links to fool the OS into believing that an EXT2 partition on the SD card is the app storage on the phone ram. This is all still to come but I still have a 1.5GB EXT2 partition on my SD card from when it was in my G1 which I will use for this purpose once root has been achieved (you will probably need to create one, I'm not going into detail about how to do this until the device has been rooted)
cez10 said:
seems like i dont understand something
is it not possible to install the apps onto a memory card?! does rooting allow to do that?
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In theory, once rooted, YES! (you posted while I was typing!)
farnsbarns said:
No you have definitely misunderstood.
The ROM is 512MB
The RAM is 576MB
Android is in the ROM You don't have access to the ROM though any file explorer (may be possible once rooted). It wont be long before the device is rooted (hopefully) and then custom ROMs can be used and it may even be possible to reduce the size of the ROM and increase the size of the RAM.
Sence UI and apps (HTC or otherwise) are in the RAM. Once we have root acccess it should be fairly easy to place apps on the SD card by using symbolic links to fool the OS into believing that an EXT2 partition on the SD card is the app storage on the phone ram. This is all still to come but I still have a 1.5GB EXT2 partition on my SD card from when it was in my G1 which I will use for this purpose once root has been achieved (you will probably need to create one, I'm not going into detail about how to do this until the device has been rooted)
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Right, now I get you.
It all becomes clear. lol
I used AP2SD on my Hero, but from what I have heard I fear we won't be able to root the Desire at all.
Arthur Hucksake said:
Right, now I get you.
It all becomes clear. lol
I used AP2SD on my Hero, but from what I have heard I fear we won't be able to root the Desire at all.
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What have you heard to suggest rooting is impossible?
Ok .. i was about to preorder Desire for myself.. but this thing holds me back a lil now.. whats the point having alot of apps in the market while u can install about 3-5 apps on your phone coz of pathetic storage space..? sure once theres a chance to root your device u can get rid of this thing.. but what about ppl which wont root their device.. as im still not sure about root aswell..
PS: i always had just WinMo devices.. and im sick of it already.. especially after i saw WP7 i hate MS.. so android is the only way for me.. have to learn alot about this OS .. dont have it yet.. but already love it..
farnsbarns said:
In theory, once rooted, YES! (you posted while I was typing!)
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whats the point of having a memory card then if you cant install any apps on it :|
can I download the apps onto the card though? and same with music files etc?
how big are the apps in average? 5mb? or more?
barakoas said:
whats the point having alot of apps in the market while u can install about 3-5 apps on your phone coz of pathetic storage space..?
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With over 100Mb Free Space you should be able to install at least 30-50 Apps (or at least 10Games). Most Apps are <1Mbyte. (Biggest Software i know is Copilot takes ~ 10Mbytes)
Don't think that you get serious problems here.
Ok that sounds quite fair.. but still.. well im App/game maniac
cez10 said:
whats the point of having a memory card then if you cant install any apps on it :|
can I download the apps onto the card though? and same with music files etc?
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I agree there, you can't save apps on it, you can't install apps on it, so what the heck is benefit of having it in ur phone then, why Google won't give this feature/option 2 install on MemCard?
Or why the heck they don't make phones memory any bigger so that we don't have 2 worry about it.. I mean if they raise built-in memory to 1GB or big it's not gonna bring the price of phone 2 double, I guess it's gonna be only few quids more...
Arthur Hucksake said:
Right, now I get you.
It all becomes clear. lol
I used AP2SD on my Hero, but from what I have heard I fear we won't be able to root the Desire at all.
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It WILL be rooted, it's just a matter of time. Probably just days in fact, knowing all the talent round here!
well theres an option to wait on Samsung Galaxy S.. which will have 8Gig internal memory and lovely hardware specs.. but meh its samsung which have crappy UI and support.. grr there always must be some BUT...
I think I need help. I think Im loosing memory on my Desire. Like anyone I have installed apps then deleted them. At the moment I have about 20mb something worth of apps installed after receiving as new, but my available memory is at only 56mb.
Where is this going to? Does deleted apps leave something in the memory?
I have tried to clear all caches I found, but 56mb is worrying me. Anyone else with this prob?
Yes, I have found this to be the case. I have about 65 apps installed but I've tried and uninstalled loads more. I backed up my apps and flashed a Generic ROM. Before I started I had about 15MB of space left.
I reinstalled ALL the same apps...and suddenly had about 50MB, with the same apps. I could only conclude old apps I had uninstalled had left loads of rubbish behind.
Im seriously thinking of hard resetting, to confirm the uninstalled apps really leave all the rubbish behind.
Wonder if there is anything else on Android that uses more and more memory...? I tried look around with Astro all the folders, but didnt spot anything. Looks like the phone keeps eating memory just like Windows does...
Firstly, if you're talking about RAM, 56MB is plenty.
Second, Android probably doesn't clear stuff like you think it does. One way to see how much RAM you really have is to just do a soft reset - i.e. turn the phone off and on.
On a fresh restart I have about 200+MB RAM. After a day or a few days, Android will hold it steady at around 35MB. Never really dropping below 9% (for long).
Have you done a soft reset and seen what values you have?
It's under settings, SD card and phone memory. stays about the same after soft reset. I just uninstalled most apps... got about 70mb now. how do u get 200mb??! it is RAM I'm talking about....
do ou have facebook linked with phone contact?
check the app called "contact list" it was 30mb because of that sync for me
jannen said:
It's under settings, SD card and phone memory. stays about the same after soft reset. I just uninstalled most apps... got about 70mb now. how do u get 200mb??! it is RAM I'm talking about....
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Maybe someone can correct me on this, but I'm pretty sure you're talking about ROM. Apps are installed into ROM and when they are run, loaded into RAM.
When I just restarted my phone now, I get 220MB RAM and I have 20MB ROM. The RAM is so high because I obviously have just turned it on and not run anything.
Oh and I have 78 apps installed (including ones that were there from the start). Don't know how many widgets I have though.
LOL you're talking about ROM and not RAM, so Cleargrey is pretty right
Dexil said:
LOL you're talking about ROM and not RAM, so Cleargrey is pretty right
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Up until Cleargrey brought it up no one had made the distinction...we simply referred to phone storage, which is pretty unambiguous. It's only Cleargrey who muddied the waters by bringing up how much free RAM he had...no one had mentioned it up to that point, so who is your LOL actually aimed at?
Sorry for the confusion... I blame XT9 lol. Rom is the word. I don't use Facebook believe or not. I'm on T-Mobile if that explains... think got just over 100mb free when phone was new. certainly not over 200!
If I install copilot now its 20 know... that would leave me with just 30 to install other apps. too little!
Then I think you have just run into the issue that is core to Android currently. You have a limited amount of space to install apps. I can't remember what the number is but it's something like 150MB (ROM).
Android currently only caches to the SD card. So we look to the next Android version to save us!
My issue goes actually further than that... What I ment is when I uninstall an app I have less memory left that when I installed it.
For example let say I have 80Mb free, I install an app of 5mb. Uninstalling it I have 70mb left. Thats the point... the Mbs are just fading away.
jannen said:
For example let say I have 80Mb free, I install an app of 5mb. Uninstalling it I have 70mb left. Thats the point... the Mbs are just fading away.
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Take a look in Settings->Applications->Manage Applications
Lets you see what's hogging the space!
I have a G1 and used to see similar behaviour with K9Mail from the Market - I had a big IMAP Inbox (1000s of messages) and I think K9 stored it's database in ROM/Flash (which is even more limited on the G1).
Can't wait for the Desire - same problems...faster!
mikes69 said:
Take a look in Settings->Applications->Manage Applications
Lets you see what's hogging the space!
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That's not really going to help when the thing taking up the space isn't on that list. That's what he's saying...he installs X app...it supposedly uses Y amount of space. He removes X app and would expect Y amount of space to become available but instead he has Y - 10.
Thanks... thats exactly what I ment. I uninstalled most stuff now.
Seems uninstalling doesnt uninstall everything - leaveing rubbish behind...
I noticed similar issues on other Android users just by Googling, but didnt find any answer to this.
To me looks like in the near future I wont have any memory left and no apps installed. Thats what Im afraid of!
Aitese said:
That's not really going to help when the thing taking up the space isn't on that list. That's what he's saying...he installs X app...it supposedly uses Y amount of space. He removes X app and would expect Y amount of space to become available but instead he has Y - 10.
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Yes, may just be a bug (don't have one yet, can't comment).
However, Manage Applications shows the total size of all the Apps and some system stuff on the Flash/ROM including the Data that they've saved there.
I would look at things like 'Browser' and 'Work Email' (unless renamed now) - the Browser app on my G1 for example has nearly 9MB of 'Cache' usage at the mo'...
My issue goes actually further than that... What I ment is when I uninstall an app I have less memory left that when I installed it.
For example let say I have 80Mb free, I install an app of 5mb. Uninstalling it I have 70mb left. Thats the point... the Mbs are just fading away.
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did you restart afterwards? I had 70 left, after a restart I had 89...
Yes restarted 3 times just today. Doesent seem to help...
i used a rooted htc hero before. i had the same problem but only with apps not installed from the market. i found out that there was kept a copy of the .apk files in a directory called data/drm/tmp as far as i remember. i deleted all files inside and got my space back...but i am not sure we have access to this directory without root access...
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
AndroidCantral wrote yesterday an article about fine tuning android multi-tasking
about fine tuning android multi-tasking. They show a small tutorial to free some space using a MinFreeManager application.
Application discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5529436
I have tried this application in the aggressive preset setting and Galaxy was much faster and snippier with opening applications. It's running now for a day without any problems so far..
You do need root the Galaxy first!
Have anybody else tried this app?
I have been using this task killer.
Thanks for the info. Learn something new.
Will try later after I have completed charging my phone.
that program minfreemanager didnt work on my phone after reboot the file in /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree was not updating.. got the program referenced in the thread called autokiller and that is updating the file on reboot correctly.
getting rid of the lag
Memory management helps (I use autokiller) but what really solved this annoyance
was moving the applications' data to the NAND (see http://android.modaco.com/content/s...298/got-the-stalling-problem-rooted-try-this/)
Its like a completely different device
One caveat is that the size of the NANDs is limited so you better know what you're doing and make sure that your /data/data dir is small enough to fit there
I am nervous about doing this since android is not designed that way. until paul or someone comes up for a fix so you dont have to reinstall os if you go over the limit.
lgkahn said:
that program minfreemanager didnt work on my phone after reboot the file in /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree was not updating.. got the program referenced in the thread called autokiller and that is updating the file on reboot correctly.
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AutoKiller is ideed better. I still new to Android, still have to lern a lot
arnonrgo said:
Memory management helps (I use autokiller) but what really solved this annoyance
was moving the applications' data to the NAND (see http://android.modaco.com/content/s...298/got-the-stalling-problem-rooted-try-this/)
Its like a completely different device
One caveat is that the size of the NANDs is limited so you better know what you're doing and make sure that your /data/data dir is small enough to fit there
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What kind of data is that? Does this include mails, contacts, appointments, games save data?
i need someone who use build 10572 to test this mod to increase Virtual Memory
need CustomPFD v06 and interop unlock
first check you default Virtual Memory by going to Storage -> internal memory -> system -> Virtual Memory
then go to:
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\PagingFiles
change number in value to 512 512 or more
check you storage -> internal memory -> system -> Virtual Memory
does it change to 512 or not ?
if it messed up, im sorry you need to HardReset you Phone to bring default VM back
check my other Thread as well:
VM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10/windows-10-mobile/test-build-10572-t3241559
3G only
http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10/windows-10-mobile/force-3g-using-network-t3241953
Touch option
http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10/windows-10-mobile/disable-touch-vibration-navbar-t3241550
Camera tweak
http://forum.xda-developers.com/win...ximize-potential-lumia-win10m-camera-t3192960
Shell Tweak
http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10/windows-10-mobile/shell-mod-tweak-t3193612
Done on 640 xl build 581. Cannot verify under storage.
augustinionut said:
Done on 640 xl build 581. Cannot verify under storage.
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yes, me too, build 10581 have bug in storage (cant see internal memory) thats why i need user that still use build 10572 to test it,
btw is it showing that you have low storage even your storage is not low ?
I dont have this error. But i noticed that when i try to change storage preference appear an APLLY buton
Is not involved this trick from above.
augustinionut said:
I dont have this error. But i noticed that when i try to change storage preference appear an APLLY buton
Is not involved this trick from above.
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apply button ? weird but nice haha
What about this? I used proces viewer xap.
Change 512 and now i have 0B virtual memory , but my phone work normal L920 10572
Now i have information "low memory"
Now revert because no space to install last build
New build, without this hack:
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10586.29 or higher doesn't work leads to reset,its waste of time
Done on build 10586.63 but i have used VCReg instead of CustomPFD i could obtain 1.47GB, have not tried higher values yet
I wonder why this topic is so low. I really think a lot of people would find this mod useful, like myself. I can't even sync candy crush saga (my guilty pleasure ) with facebook. When the edge starts up, the game closes.
This is really useful and yes, should be more commented.
I have done a few test keeping some apps on background even games like GTA SA, Batman, Asphalt 8 and several apps the result when I got back into them is that None of them closed while in the background.
myrcello said:
This is really useful and yes, should be more commented.
I have done a few test keeping some apps on background even games like GTA SA, Batman, Asphalt 8 and several apps the result when I got back into them is that None of them closed while in the background.
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Do you mean after this mod? and what device do you have?
Damn it, I used to have Nokia N900 before this device, I was free... These kind of limitations are so frustrating at least to say.
david.goshadze said:
Do you mean after this mod? and what device do you have?
Damn it, I used to have Nokia N900 before this device, I was free... These kind of limitations are so frustrating at least to say.
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The test was After this mod, i have a Lumia 930.
myrcello said:
The test was After this mod, i have a Lumia 930.
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Thanks for the reply. I really hope something will change and finally we'll be able to adjust virtual memory to our needs and likes. Or maybe Microsoft implements an logarithm that does the job for us, who knows...
First step might be changing the name of this thread to more self-explanatory so that developers get more interested.
You can move pagefile to D:\
Hey guys, try moving the pagefile to D:\, it works for me lol!
Why I did this? I'm having some storage problems on my 535 lol! I can't update to the latest insider build even I uninstalled all apps on C:\ and move everything to D:\ lol!
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mrchezco1995 said:
Hey guys, try moving the pagefile to D:\, it works for me lol!
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If it works why you have 0 in virtual memory
The last time I did this, I always got loading and resuming screens even at the lock screen for 2 mins and I had to hard reset.
I had 1gb virtual memory btw.
Hey guys,
My Lumia 640 was running slow on Windows 10. It seemed like my apps were always closing and taking forever to reload.
The default page file settings regardless of the amount RAM in the phone is locked at 256MB. Where the persistent storage is also flash memory, writing to the page file shouldn't cause any major slowdowns.
I used interop tools and the data located at https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms912851(v=winembedded.5).aspx to set the minimum size to 128MB and the maximum size of the page file to 768MB. The results were immediate!
Thinking it was a fluke, I rebooted my phone, and I noticed that it starts much faster now, too! As always, ymmv, but post your results in this thread if it helps!
Additional Info:
1. Setting the location of the page file to anything other than "u:\pagefile.sys" will cause storage sense to display a virtual memory size of 0 MB. To verify that your change worked, enable MTP Root Access in Interop Tools, plug your phone into a pc, and then navigate to the location of the new page file and verify that it was created.
2. Don't set the max size of the page file to be larger than the amount of free space available in the "apps and games" area of the phone. Setting the max limit too close to the amount of free space will cause crashes as the apps will lose "breathing room".
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After playing with this for a while, I discovered that the phone prefers a static page file. The settings that gave me consistently good results without crashing was to move the pagefile to the system partition (c:\pagefile.sys) and to lock it at 512 512. I am on rs1.
There appears to be an rs1 bug that if the memory usage goes beyond a certain number, the phone will become unstable. This is unrelated to the page file adjustment. How do I know? My brand new Alcatel IDOL 4S with Windows 10 gets wonky if I open too many apps. It has 4GB or RAM that is OS limited to 3.5 GB.
It worked magiccccc
durbaca said:
It worked magiccccc
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Really? https://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10-mobile/test-build-10572-t3241559
augustinionut said:
Really? https://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10-mobile/test-build-10572-t3241559
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That's cuz people are dumb....the trick is to make it dynamic and let the OS resize it as needed. Locking the page file to a static size isn't even recommended by Microsoft, so I'm shocked they do it with Windows phone...
The system partition is also very tiny, so if a large pagefile is desired, the path should be modified from u:\pagefile.sys to u:\Data\pagefile.sys.
U:\ is already mapped to the data partition, so there is no need to change this.
Also, never NEVER move the pagefile to an SD card. That's just asking for trouble....
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Locking the page file to a static size isn't even recommended by Microsoft.
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Lumia 640 XL come by default with 256 256 page size. So ask microsoft why.
@augustinionut I am aware...my new idol comes the same way...i have no idea why they do it....it goes against everything the recommend.... https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/motiba/2015/10/15/page-file-the-definitive-guide/
Guys any noob tutorial please ,,,
ridershahmir said:
Guys any noob tutorial please ,,,
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3# post.
Virtual Memory under Storage changed to 0 bytes
Phone working though
I'm on a Lumia 640
compu829 said:
Hey guys,
My Lumia 640 was running slow on Windows 10. It seemed like my apps were always closing and taking forever to reload.
The default page file settings regardless of the amount RAM in the phone is locked at 256MB. Where the persistent storage is also flash memory, writing to the page file shouldn't cause any major slowdowns.
I used interop tools and the data located at https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms912851(v=winembedded.5).aspx to set the minimum size to 128MB and the maximum size of the page file to 768MB. The results were immediate!
Thinking it was a fluke, I rebooted my phone, and I noticed that it starts much faster now, too! As always, ymmv, but post your results in this thread if it helps!
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Which interop tools version did you used ?
I'm wondering about the performance of apps after such action and crashes among heavy apps like facebook??
karaki93 said:
I'm wondering about the performance of apps after such action and crashes among heavy apps like facebook??
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I keep Facebook on my SD card. For me, Facebook went from not loading at all to loading if I let it sit for a while with this mod.
SouraTR said:
Virtual Memory under Storage changed to 0 bytes
Phone working though
I'm on a Lumia 640
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It will do that for two reasons:
1. You changed the location of the page file to something other than "u:\pagefile.sys". If you change it, the size will stop showing up in storage settings.
2. You set the minimum size of the page file to "0".
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Which interop tools version did you used ?
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I used both RC2 and RC3.
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I keep Facebook on my SD card. For me, Facebook went from not loading at all to loading if I let it sit for a while with this mod.
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No crashes so far.
I've set the pagefile to 128 768. Facebook (internal storage) loads in a snap without Messenger, Messenger (internal storage) loads in a snap without Facebook, but it doesn't work if you have both of them installed. Maybe I'll up the maxmem a bit. Thanks for the info.
640XL 15031
Succes !
compu829 said:
I used both RC2 and RC3.
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Well i have finally succeed to change the page file. After all the struggle i can confirm that Lumia 640 it's more snappy than ever.
Facebook app still loading slow or ending with a crash.(Facebook it's on sdcard, messenger on phone)
I have only one bug with the lock screen display not displaying correctly on wallpaper or not displaying the wallpaper.
I have attached some screenshots. Enjoy !
If you have any question please don't hesitate.
Used Interop Tools RC3 with dependencies.
Renamed "u:\pagefile.sys 256 256" to "u:\pagefile.sys 1024 1024"
thebreed said:
No crashes so far.
I've set the pagefile to 128 768. Facebook (internal storage) loads in a snap without Messenger, Messenger (internal storage) loads in a snap without Facebook, but it doesn't work if you have both of them installed. Maybe I'll up the maxmem a bit. Thanks for the info.
640XL 15031
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UPDATE#1: 512 1024 works fine. I have 2 gigs of internal mem free though.
UPDATE #2: 1024 1536 works fine. Now Facebook and Messenger can coexist on internal storage, and both work fine. Much, much better than before. Happy.
If this is a placebo effect, I don't mind.
compu829 said:
It will do that for two reasons:
1. You changed the location of the page file to something other than "u:\pagefile.sys". If you change it, the size will stop showing up in storage settings.
2. You set the minimum size of the page file to "0".
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Confirmed
When I change the string to 256 768, it shows VM as 0 bytes
Changed it 768 768
Now VM is 597MB
The device feels a little snappier
For anyone else looking on how to do this, I found this article on Windows Central that describes Interop Tools and how to go about using it.
http://www.windowscentral.com/interop-tools-windows-10-mobile
I've got interop tools installed and changing the value doesn't work. It stays the same (256). Any help?