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just a heads up... did a search on this forum for "32GB" and didnt find anything. didnt bother searching "microsdhc" since so many people would have a different way of typing it out that it would be near impossible to find on a search.
anyways, Verizon Wireless seems to have the SanDisk 32GB microSDHC cards IN STOCK and is selling them for $99 online with free overnight shipping. most places havent had stock EVER since it was released a couple of months ago. original retail price on them began at $240 or something.
unfortunately, these are Class 2 only, but generally it's not the card that's the bottleneck when it comes to speed on your device. i popped mine in this morning when it arrived and have had no problems with reading at all; 350mb XviD avi rips of TV shows like Rescue Me and 550mb XviD avi rips of Top Gear all play back flawlessly on my Samsung Vibrant.
write speeds have a bit to be desired, but i cant complain due to faster cards being unavailable. compared to my Class 6 16GB card, it has no ill effects from what i have so far observed while in the device.
cliffs: $99 for a SanDisk 32GB microSDHC from verizonwireless.com with free overnight shipping. normal price from them is $150, but is on special for now... the original deal was $50 off with the purchase of a Droid X, but that seems to have changed for a limited time. cheapest i can find it anywhere else using Google Shopping is $140 before tax+shipping.
Thanks for the heads up. Do a search on Engadget for an article on it (I can't post the link). Apparently it just hit the store 8 days ago.
Still, I dunno. I'm kind of on the fence about getting it due to the price (just dropped $550 on the phone itself).
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it has no ill effects from what i have so far observed while in the device.
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So no lag skipping/playing music files or video?
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
SuperMiguel said:
lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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real users only need 640k.
anyway, is $100 for it even a good deal? I see 16GB micro sdhc for like $40 (newegg link).
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lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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Because I want to be able to ditch my MP3 player (which currently has 30+ gigs of music) and use my phone exclusively. One less thing to carry around.
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real users only need 640k.
anyway, is $100 for it even a good deal? I see 16GB micro sdhc for like $40 (newegg link).
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How many slots does your phone have?
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How many slots does your phone have?
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What does this have to do with my vibrant? I would hope most people know it's only got one place to put a micro sdhc
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What does this have to do with my vibrant? I would hope most people know it's only got one place to put a micro sdhc
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I think they meant to point out that unless you want to carry around a tiny breakable easy to lose 16gb card in ur pocket or bag and switch out when you need to, having 32gb in one card is more convenient which combined with how newly available the card is, it is quite cheap for the price. You only pay a bit more per GB in this case, normally you'd pay 2-3x more in the beginning for the new highest capacity in flash memory.
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I think they meant to point out that unless you want to carry around a tiny breakable easy to lose 16gb card in ur pocket or bag and switch out when you need to, having 32gb in one card is more convenient which combined with how newly available the card is, it is quite cheap for the price. You only pay a bit more per GB in this case, normally you'd pay 2-3x more in the beginning for the new highest capacity in flash memory.
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Ding ding ding - winnar!
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I think they meant to point out that unless you want to carry around a tiny breakable easy to lose 16gb card in ur pocket or bag and switch out when you need to, having 32gb in one card is more convenient which combined with how newly available the card is, it is quite cheap for the price. You only pay a bit more per GB in this case, normally you'd pay 2-3x more in the beginning for the new highest capacity in flash memory.
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What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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I know at least for me, there's never enough space. Unless they somehow manage to offer Terabyte microSD cards. Even the, I'm sure I'd find a sure for it.
Music, movies, games, ebooks, audiobooks, work files, space for pictures and videos, etc.
Do you NEED to have that much stuff on you? No, but it's nice to have access to everthing and worry less about space.
I know I have 14gb of music on my card and that's mostly just ONE genre of music. I have over 150gb of music. And yes, I do listen to all 14gb that I do have on there. It's good to have access to lots of music for parties and get togethers. Remote access is not always a perfect solution.
Again, I don't NEED all the space, but I sure as heck will use it when I have it.
If I had more space, I'd also partition space on my phone for portable apps. Having access to FireFox, GIMP, Openoffice, 7zip, etc wherever I go is a huge plus.
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I know at least for me, there's never enough space. Unless they somehow manage to offer Terabyte microSD cards. Even the, I'm sure I'd find a sure for it.
Music, movies, games, ebooks, audiobooks, work files, space for pictures and videos, etc.
Do you NEED to have that much stuff on you? No, but it's nice to have access to everthing and worry less about space.
I know I have 14gb of music on my card and that's mostly just ONE genre of music. I have over 150gb of music. And yes, I do listen to all 14gb that I do have on there. It's good to have access to lots of music for parties and get togethers. Remote access is not always a perfect solution.
Again, I don't NEED all the space, but I sure as heck will use it when I have it.
If I had more space, I'd also partition space on my phone for portable apps. Having access to FireFox, GIMP, Openoffice, 7zip, etc wherever I go is a huge plus.
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well yes, I agree, there are things to use the space. I'm just saying given the phone limitations wouldn't it be easier to dropbox and/or grab crap off the pc? The thing does have allshare/server capabilities to make that easier.
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well yes, I agree, there are things to use the space. I'm just saying given the phone limitations wouldn't it be easier to dropbox and/or grab crap off the pc? The thing does have allshare/server capabilities to make that easier.
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Do you need to be plugged into the PC to get the files off of it? I assume you do, but even if you didn't, think of all the battery power wasted to get the files when you want them. e.g. let's say I am on a bus or stuck waiting for something and want to watch a show or movie on my pc on my phone. I'd need to get on 3g, hope it can all stream fast enough, and the battery would run out super fast using 3g and playing a video all at once.
Also as for the 32gb 16gb argument. I might be able to work with limited storage, but I personally could fill about 5tb or more with anime and movies and tv shows that I'd like, and if I could carry all of that on my phone, and be able to select anything I want immediately and have it right there, that would be amazingly convenient. Therefore as far as I am concerned 16gb, 32gb, it's never really enough, people can always fill more space. However I will deal with having only a 16gb card on my Epic 4G when it comes out.
I thought the max microSD card the phone accepts is 16 gigs as per specs supplied in the manual. Guess those are wrong then? Good to know! Thanks for posting this topic!!
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lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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Duh, for all the porn you gotta shove on the ***** for on-the-go wanking!!! lmao
Wonder if you could rig it up to work with a WHS box streaming from home? Just a thought. That's what I'll do at work tomorrow I think.
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Duh, for all the porn you gotta shove on the ***** for on-the-go wanking!!! lmao
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What else are you going to do with that beautiful AMOLED screen? Duh
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What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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i can fit 20GB of movies, TV shows, and music on a single card without having to connect my phone to a computer to add more.
THAT wont fit on a 16GB card. i dont carry my laptop wherever i go, therefore i dont really have access to any data beyond the 16GB card. maybe you are always near your computer, but i'm not.
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none.
i set the removable card slot as the save point for the camcorder app and recorded nearly 7 minutes of video with lots of movement. no issues when recording.
i then played it back using both the built-in video player and eStrong File Explorer's built-in video player and experienced no dropped frames, freezing, or slowdowns, nor did the audio and video go out of sync.
i'm a hobbyist photographer so reliable, fast memory cards are something i'm always on the lookout for. because of this, i've sampled a lot of different brands in the past (i'm always testing different brands to try and find cheaper alternatives for my camera) and have found that SanDisk flash memory cards are consistently much faster than their rated spec. this result with the 32GB microSD is probably no different nor that unusual, based on my previous experience.
if i have some free time this morning and will do some read/write tests of the SanDisk 32GB Class 2 card alongside the original Samsung 2GB card that the Vibrant came with, a SanDisk 2GB Class 2 card, and a SanDisk 16GB Class 6 card i used in my HD2.
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lol 16GB + 32GB = 48GB why? why you need 50GB of space on a cellphone
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What would someone possibly need on a 32 gb that cant fit on a16 plus having access to any pc you plug your phone into plus another 15 approx gigs internal?
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i really dont understand how anyone can manage to COMPLAIN about more data space, or that someone bothered to share a good deal they had found. either you people lead unhappy lives or you're lashing out because you're unable to afford one... because there's no logical explanation you can create to support an argument against a 32GB card except price.
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I thought the max microSD card the phone accepts is 16 gigs as per specs supplied in the manual. Guess those are wrong then? Good to know! Thanks for posting this topic!!
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the microSDHC spec allows for up to 32GB. it's just taken this long (released in the beginning of this year, or so) for a company to create a chip dense enough to reliably manufacture a 32GB microSD card.
the new spec, microSDXC, will cover sizes ranging from 32GB up to 2TB in the Secure Digital format. 64GB SDXC cards are already available from Panasonic and SanDisk.
Is there any reason that all leaks so far says that the phone only have 8GB Storage. Especially the HTC HD7, which is supposed to be HTCs state of the art Phone should have at least 16GB Storage from the beginning. 8GB isn't quite enough for someone with a lot of music and other media, and to say "but it has 25GB cloud storage!" isn't valid when talking about Music and media, scince the cloud isn't always there and can't be as responsive as a local storage.
Nobody knows anything for sure. Every leak was mentioning 8GB in all devices except an LG one, but whether that will be the only option or this is just the amount of storage in current pre-production devices or this is the capacity of storage cards that will be shipped (but can be somehow changed later) remains to be seen.
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Nobody knows anything for sure. Every leak was mentioning 8GB in all devices except an LG one, but whether that will be the only option or this is just the amount of storage in current pre-production devices or this is the capacity of storage cards that will be shipped (but can be somehow changed later) remains to be seen.
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I hope they're all just held on by a latch under the battery...if not those OEMs that just made 8GB phones really messed up. But they're just Gen 1 phones anyway. Really hoping to see MS code the drivers for Hummingbird & Tegra chipsets.
If those cards are somehow accessible, that would indeed be great. Especially if SDXC is supported.
On the other hand, they can easily mess up, this won't be the first or the last time they do it.
I think that the reason we are seeing 8GB on all the leaks are because these are test devices.
Let's think about it, most of the device specs that have been leaked are using non-removable SD cards.
SD cards are relatively cheap, just plug it in and viola, you got 8, 16, or 32 GB. Knowing this, it seems likely that we'll see an OEM (such as HTC), release one device (such as HD3) with several different storage levels (8GB, 16GB, 32GB) simply because the cost of adding a higher storage card is negligible compared to using flash storage.
The reason for all these 8GB devices is because WP7 requires a minimum of 8GB built in storage for apps and media. Manufacturers can make it as high they want.
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Is there any reason that all leaks so far says that the phone only have 8GB Storage. Especially the HTC HD7, which is supposed to be HTCs state of the art Phone should have at least 16GB Storage from the beginning. 8GB isn't quite enough for someone with a lot of music and other media, and to say "but it has 25GB cloud storage!" isn't valid when talking about Music and media, scince the cloud isn't always there and can't be as responsive as a local storage.
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Exactly one of the reasons why I don't want to buy WP7 when it comes out. I might go to Android for the time being.
All CPUs are qualcomm 8250, no tethering, 8gb storage, no expanision (had this been on the phones, it would have forgiven the 8gb internal storage). All though I LOVE how it is incorporated to XBL, I don't think that is enough to win me over. I'm on the fence here.
Yeah, that they're also using the QSD8250 sucks. On the other hand, I don't think that Android will be faster with QSD8650A than a WP7 with the QSD8250. Part because Android is kinda slow so the extra CPU power will probably be consumed and games and Apps in Android is developed to fit with slower devices (and devices without 2.2)
Tethering is confirmed from what I've heard, but it's up to the carrier to decide if it should be enabled.
My biggest worries is still the 8GB memory (and lack of important APIs), but hopefully it's only because of the testing devices all leaks report 8GB.
Ideally, I would love have any WP7 with a SD Slot so I can go and buy a 32gb to potentially replace my 30gb 1st gen Zune, since it's built in then use whatever is onboard for phone use. As of right now, I'm still rocking a day 1 G1 with the stock 1gb inside, so anything right now will be considered an upgrade. I do have a feeling that the "leaked" specs may just test units or even a Euro specific version and the US version may differ....but then again that would be in a perfect world. Only time will tell with the "official release".
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Ideally, I would love have any WP7 with a SD Slot so I can go and buy a 32gb to potentially replace my 30gb 1st gen Zune, since it's built in then use whatever is onboard for phone use. As of right now, I'm still rocking a day 1 G1 with the stock 1gb inside, so anything right now will be considered an upgrade. I do have a feeling that the "leaked" specs may just test units or even a Euro specific version and the US version may differ....but then again that would be in a perfect world. Only time will tell with the "official release".
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How the hell does Your G1 have 1g of internal storage?
After this post, The XDA app probably forced closed from my froyo lacking Vibrant
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How the hell does Your G1 have 1g of internal storage?
After this post, The XDA app probably forced closed from my froyo lacking Vibrant
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Not internal....SD Card. Hell, 1gb internal would be amazing. I dont use many apps but it sure would help out.
Apple update the spec of their devices every year and I think Microsoft should look to do this also...
In addition to the Gyroscope and new processors metioned at MIX I would like to see the following...
Fall 2011 - Windows Phone 7.5
1. Front Facing Camera - Launched with Live Messenger, Skype etc...
2. 16 GB Minimum Memory - I have no space for new APPS on my 8 GB device!!
3. SD Card option like on the Samsung Focus as standard.
Fall 2012 - Windows Phone 8
1. DLNA - Stream movies, photos to TV
2. Windows Button to also be 8 directional D-PAD as standard.
3. Allow remapping of all buttons when in Game Mode.
3. NFC - contactless mobile payments
4. USB 3
5. Bluetooth 3 or 4
6. XGA Resolution 1024 x 768
7. HDMI
8. Dual Core processors - multiple suppliers
I am sure there will be Android devices that meet these specs by late 2012
Low end devices would stay as WP7 and WP8 would support the high end features... Microsoft has already said this is the strategy.
I think the most important update should be software and increase in software features to improve the versatility of the platform. Windows 7 phones as at now are by no means low in specs.
Agrred the current specs are high enough for the momment. The main problem is software develpoers trying to create sual core supported software which, means its better if ms wait a while and do what andorid have whereby they have increased spped of the os and added new features and battery saving features mainly. Also speed wise JIT would be good.
The specs are fine, but I do see them improving, obviously. I've stated in other threads I see them updating faster because of market production and not because of necessity, unlike Android.
With that being said, I do see FFC coming this Fall. Though, obviously, they won't be mandatory, and will probably be featured on the phones on par with what's available today. Video out will probably be available sometime, though I don't think in Mango, but it would make sense with Netflix on the device. They won't go with multiple suppliers of processors, that takes away from the consistency of the device... And Qualcomm is a fine manufacturer... Why the need for change here?
Resolution has also been said it won't change, hasn't it? Really don't blame them, again, consistency. As far for hardware adjustments... No... Just... No.
And the memory option affects price. There are 16gb devices, why didn't you get one of those? I have 16gb -.- They need smaller devices to attract different users, you can't only have max devices on the market.
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Apple update the spec of their devices every year and I think Microsoft should look to do this also...
In addition to the Gyroscope and new processors metioned at MIX I would like to see the following...
Fall 2011 - Windows Phone 7.5
1. Front Facing Camera - Launched with Live Messenger, Skype etc... - Useless without the Apps. Not sure if Skype wants to tax their network by just letting any and everyone video call right now, TBQH...
2. 16 GB Minimum Memory - I have no space for new APPS on my 8 GB device!! - Why did you buy an 8GB device?
3. SD Card option like on the Samsung Focus as standard. - They're better off setting the minimum storage to 16GB than add a slot IMO. SD Cards lose their utility with the way WP7 uses them, and it's a PITA to use them after you take them out the phone as well...
Fall 2012 - Windows Phone 8
1. DLNA - Stream movies, photos to TV - Standard on High End Android devices.
2. Windows Button to also be 8 directional D-PAD as standard. Huh?
3. Allow remapping of all buttons when in Game Mode. - That still wouldn't make the phone a decent gaming device. Have to go the Sony rought to have something decent, IMO.
3. NFC - contactless mobile payments - Becoming standard on Android phones. Newer Blackberries will ship with this as well, and I suspect the next iPhone will as well as WebOS devices.
4. USB 3 - Unnecessary, IMO.
5. Bluetooth 3 or 4 - Galaxy S phones shipped with 3.0 in the middle of last year... Kinda late for this but it doesn't matter that much if your other devices don't support it, IMO.
6. XGA Resolution 1024 x 768 - Unnecessary on smartphone screens. Even qHD is IMO unecessary on screens 4.3" and below. Apple can afford to put this because they charge a premium for their devices, but it's pretty meh. qHD is decent, this is overkill...
7. HDMI - This is a pretty standard feature these days...
8. Dual Core processors - multiple suppliers - Agree...
I am sure there will be Android devices that meet these specs by late 2012
^ Apart from the screen resolution and USB3, both of which are pipe dreams... There are already Android phones that meet or exceed these specs now...
Low end devices would stay as WP7 and WP8 would support the high end features... Microsoft has already said this is the strategy.
^ Link pls... WTB Windows Phone fragmentation?
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If Microsoft wants to wait until Fall 2012 to introduce half that stuff you have listed... They mind as well just give up now.
Do us all a favor and ask them to put better batteries in their smartphones. The issue with smartphones is not the hardware. Even 1st gen snapdragons are good enough to make a good, featureful, performant smartphone OS on... The issue is that these phones last half a day with heavy usage, when you could do 2-3 days of heavy usage on Blackberries and Nokia phones...
No one cares how pretty it is or how well it performs if they are tethered to a charger all the time, and that's pretty much the status quo for WP7/Android/WebOS and to a lesser extent iOS these days...
Even with 1800-1930 mAh batteries phones like the Galaxy S II/Atrix 4G etc. manage to have battery life measured in < a day of moderate use... That's pretty incredible (not in a good way, either). It's time for manufacturers and companies like Microsoft/Google to stop feeding the needless spec bumping and focus on something that matters more - making phones that won't be rendered useless for hours due to being tethered to a charger if you happen to doze off at night before you plug the charger into it.
Better Battery Life in general, as N8ter said. I think this is the thing iOS, wp7 & Android platforms really need to focus on more right now.
16GB minimum internal NAND memory, although I hope to see at least one 32GB or more (probably Nokia) in the next year. Memory is not that expensive, and if we are to have our music collections on our phones, Nokia and Apple are the only ones who seem to get that you need space. I'll pay a little more for enough storage.
The new processor spec's are fine, don't need dual core yet but would like to see them start to come out by early next year.
I really expect a front facing camera phone will be out with Mango due to Skype being released. One of the OEM's will have one as a flagship if not more. But do people really use this feature much? Not really, but it still has uses, and those who will use it and should be available with Mango imo.
Other than that, its additional software features that are needed most. Mango is taking care of a decent list of complaints I had as will Nokias Navtek data/Ovi maps, but there are still many things to be added.
Fall 2012??? OMG... If Mango can do good enough... Mango is still WIP, so why don;t they add some feature that might "Magnet" some other users? 1, 3, 5, 7,8 from Windows Phone 8 are good example to be put on Mango.
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Better Battery Life in general, as N8ter said. I think this is the thing iOS, wp7 & Android platforms really need to focus on more right now.
16GB minimum internal NAND memory, although I hope to see at least one 32GB or more (probably Nokia) in the next year. Memory is not that expensive, and if we are to have our music collections on our phones, Nokia and Apple are the only ones who seem to get that you need space. I'll pay a little more for enough storage.
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I agree, but the manufacturers charge too much for strage. Going from an 8 to 16 GB phone can easily add $100 to the price at times. It's ridiculous. They will nickle and dime at any opportunity.
Nokia phones only needed a decent size ROM. They have SD Card Slots. Same for Windows Mobile and to a lesser extent Android. iOS, WP7, and WebOS devices need at least 16 GB internal storage, because of the lack of an SD slot or the way the phone works with SD Cards (WP7).
The new processor spec's are fine, don't need dual core yet but would like to see them start to come out by early next year.
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Agree.
I really expect a front facing camera phone will be out with Mango due to Skype being released. One of the OEM's will have one as a flagship if not more. But do people really use this feature much? Not really, but it still has uses, and those who will use it and should be available with Mango imo.
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I have no use for a FFC, and TBQH, I don't even want a phone with a FFC. I'll take an extra 8GB of space instead of a FFC for same price, plix...
Other than that, its additional software features that are needed most. Mango is taking care of a decent list of complaints I had as will Nokias Navtek data/Ovi maps, but there are still many things to be added.
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Agree, and Mango needed to be coming out now, not in six months. They really dropped the ball releasing basically a feature phone in the smartphone market.
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I agree, but the manufacturers charge too much for strage. Going from an 8 to 16 GB phone can easily add $100 to the price at times. It's ridiculous. They will nickle and dime at any opportunity.
Nokia phones only needed a decent size ROM. They have SD Card Slots. Same for Windows Mobile and to a lesser extent Android. iOS, WP7, and WebOS devices need at least 16 GB internal storage, because of the lack of an SD slot or the way the phone works with SD Cards (WP7).
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Nokia's N8 has 64GB internal storage (if I remember correctly). Doesn't NAND memory work better than internal + a removable SD card? I never got great performance out of my SD cards in BB, Android ect. And it seems MS wants everything to be sync'd through zune instead of having removable media ect.
I just hope there is an option for at least 32GB soon, but I would definitely prefer fast and efficient NAND storage like what the Focus has.
I have no use for a FFC, and TBQH, I don't even want a phone with a FFC. I'll take an extra 8GB of space instead of a FFC for same price, plix...
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I would as well.
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Nokia's N8 has 64GB internal storage (if I remember correctly). Doesn't NAND memory work better than internal + a removable SD card? I never got great performance out of my SD cards in BB, Android ect. And it seems MS wants everything to be sync'd through zune instead of having removable media ect.
I just hope there is an option for at least 32GB soon, but I would definitely prefer fast and efficient NAND storage like what the Focus has.
I would as well.
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The N8 does not have 64 GB storage. I'm pretty sure it's 16 GB + SD Card Slot, just like Galaxy S phones...
Yep, just checked... 16 GB Internal Storage with support for up to 32 GB SD Card.
I used to install all my apps to a Class 2 SD Card in Windows Mobile as well as put all my music and videos on it and never had any issues with performance.
In any case, that's not a factor. SD Cards for for media storage, and you can get a high class card if you need it. As long as the phone has a decent amount of internal storage it's not gonna be a problem
I just rather the phone come with at least 16GB internal so I don't feel like I have to splurge for an expensive big SD Card on top of an already expensive device. Plus, it makes a lot of sense...
With the way WP7 works with SD cards, they're better off putting in a large amount of internal storage. SD Cards are how swappable storage and when you make them unswappable it defeats the purpose of even having the slot - especially when you have to factory reset your phone everytime you want to change it (which means you're need to get the biggest card possible off the bad, or deal with a ridiculous inconvenience later on if you want to upgrade it)...
Also, until Microsoft mandates storage types most manufacturers will continue to use SD cards. It allows them to spend VERY little money putting lots of storage whilst charging consumers a ton of money simply because there is a lot of storage there... SD Cards are ridiculously cheap compared to NAND, but you'd never know in the pricing...
Also, if an SD Card goes bad, the phone is much easier to repair than another with a NAND chip soldered in. It's as easy as opening it up, replacing that card, and factory resetting the device then sending it back... That can potentially lower support costs as well
Looks like the 64GB N8 was an april fools gag...I fell for it :O
I wish my Focus had 16GB thats for sure. I chose it as it had the best form factor, best screen, and Samsung's Chipset/Memory was also top notch. Why they chose to only put in 8GB is beyond me.
I wanna get a 32gb best class card but I have no idea which one to get.. Any pointers?
NeeceeBabe said:
I wanna get a 32gb best class card but I have no idea which one to get.. Any pointers?
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Basically, stay away from the cheap eBay auctions for them. You'll often get a fake-brand claiming to be SanDisk, but it's really not.
Stick with legit SanDisk or Transcend.
Amazon and Newegg have had some good deals.
AData has a true class 10 speed with 32GB. I use it on my Cowon J3 music player. It's very fast, faster than the Lexar Class 10 that I have.
http://www.adata-group.com/index.php?action=product_feature&cid=7&piid=37
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AData has a true class 10 speed with 32GB. I use it on my Cowon J3 music player. It's very fast, faster than the Lexar Class 10 that I have.
http://www.adata-group.com/index.php?action=product_feature&cid=7&piid=37
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I hope I can find one. seems like 32gb class 10 are REALLY hard to find.
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I hope I can find one. seems like 32gb class 10 are REALLY hard to find.
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Here's some...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...n=micro sd 32gb&name=Class 10&Order=BESTMATCH
I'm curious: where would we see the advantage of a Class 10 card on our phones? Outside of copying files to/from them faster, I'm not sure there's anything we're doing on them that would benefit from it. Anything concrete anyone can suggest that I'm not thinking of? The photos aren't anywhere high-res enough to require it, and the camera's not capable of taking them in a fast enough burst mode to need it, and I'm assuming even the 1080p video capture doesn't need it or Samsung would have had an * in their advertising to let us know. So that leaves me to assume I could probably save some money on a lower class and be just as happy...
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I'm curious: where would we see the advantage of a Class 10 card on our phones? Outside of copying files to/from them faster, I'm not sure there's anything we're doing on them that would benefit from it. Anything concrete anyone can suggest that I'm not thinking of? The photos aren't anywhere high-res enough to require it, and the camera's not capable of taking them in a fast enough burst mode to need it, and I'm assuming even the 1080p video capture doesn't need it or Samsung would have had an * in their advertising to let us know. So that leaves me to assume I could probably save some money on a lower class and be just as happy...
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So your saying a class 6 or 4 should be fine?
Would it affect flashing roms or running apps2sd?
TurboFool said:
I'm curious: where would we see the advantage of a Class 10 card on our phones? Outside of copying files to/from them faster, I'm not sure there's anything we're doing on them that would benefit from it. Anything concrete anyone can suggest that I'm not thinking of? The photos aren't anywhere high-res enough to require it, and the camera's not capable of taking them in a fast enough burst mode to need it, and I'm assuming even the 1080p video capture doesn't need it or Samsung would have had an * in their advertising to let us know. So that leaves me to assume I could probably save some money on a lower class and be just as happy...
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Transcend cards are great. I use them in my dslr when i film. I can not be let down when im in the middle of a production.
Class 6-class 10 will be good enough for the phone. A class 6 16gb I've read has the best overall speeds
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Class 6 will do just fine. The extra expense of the Class 10 is not worth it right now. As a previous poster hinted to, the phone does not do anything fast enough to take advantage of the full Class 10 speeds.
It might help for initial file transfers if you transfer Movies to it or something like that, but how often do you really do that?
lazloe said:
Class 6 will do just fine. The extra expense of the Class 10 is not worth it right now. As a previous poster hinted to, the phone does not do anything fast enough to take advantage of the full Class 10 speeds.
It might help for initial file transfers if you transfer Movies to it or something like that, but how often do you really do that?
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Okay Thanks... should be easier to find that lol. But I don't, I just like the best of the best p
I have also looked around the net quite a bit regarding this issue (is how I came to my conclusion above). One more thing I would like to add is to make sure you buy Retail or from a known good supplier to be safe ... like Newegg... not Ebay or Amazon.
Most quality brand name cards will perform their benchmark tests at or above their ratings. This is why Class 6 is good enough for our uses right now until something better than 10 drops and pushes the 10's down in price. (Look to the future whenever you can get a deal)
Here is Sandisk's information on classes:
http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/d...speed-ratings-(performance)-for-sd/sdhc-cards
I doubt the cameras on our phones are recording at more than 6MB/s.
I would love to see some stats on this though.. you know, in case I'm wrong.
(which I don't think I am)
NeeceeBabe said:
Okay Thanks... should be easier to find that lol. But I don't, I just like the best of the best p
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I like your style Neecee. Hope you get your phone soon
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JohnCorleone said:
I like your style Neecee. Hope you get your phone soon
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Sighs, Just might have to drink some wine to help with the pain. Letstalk SUCKS!
It speeds up everything. Application manager loads faster, faster scan at startup, apps in microsd will load faster, transfering/copying files from or to pc/internal memory, ect...
Just wanted to catch your opinion on the real benefits of buying the 16 GB variant as opposed to 12 GB model. Make abstraction of the storage capacity increase, just assume that you don't really need 512 GB as long as you have expandable storage (via microSD) to use if really needed.
I am thinking of arguments justifying the additional RAM increase, considering that 12 GB is already more than enough for multitasking., even for running 2-3 RAM-intensive games at the same time
Looking forward to your opinions! :good: Thank you!
More ram - better dex experience?
Better for "locking apps" in the ram (new feature I guess for s20 series).
Smoother gaming?
Better for recording 8k?
More ram for buffing video?
Buffing online radio?
20degrees said:
More ram - better dex experience?
Better for "locking apps" in the ram (new feature I guess for s20 series).
Smoother gaming?
Better for recording 8k?
More ram for buffing video?
Buffing online radio?
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Is the "locking apps" feature available for all S20 phones? Someone in the YouTube's had mentioned it was an ultra exclusive. Lots of times those guys are wrong though.
chetly968 said:
Is the "locking apps" feature available for all S20 phones? Someone in the YouTube's had mentioned it was an ultra exclusive. Lots of times those guys are wrong though.
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Not sure. I'm getting the ultra so I couldn't care less. ?
20degrees said:
Not sure. I'm getting the ultra so I couldn't care less.
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So are you getting the 16 GB version?
katolink said:
So are you getting the 16 GB version?
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Oh yeah. I wish they offered a 1tb version. I'd be all over that.
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Oh yeah. I wish they offered a 1tb version. I'd be all over that.
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Ok, but assuming that you don't run 2 games at a time, or use dex at the same time with 8K recording, or buffing online radio.... is the incremental 4 GB really worth buying? I mean obviously this depends on real world usage, but still...
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Ok, but assuming that you don't run 2 games at a time, or use dex at the same time with 8K recording, or buffing online radio.... is the incremental 4 GB really worth buying? I mean obviously this depends on real world usage, but still...
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Likely not worth it?
Also would depend how long you keep the phone? More ram would be a better future proofing option?
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Likely not worth it?
Also would depend how long you keep the phone? More ram would be a better future proofing option?
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Right point here. Future-proofing on this hardware is very tempting and viable.
I guess the real question is: if, let's say, you record 8K or buff high res video or run dex or play a high demanding game, BUT one at a time, with no superposition between such memory/processor-hungry apps, will the phone perform faster/smoother/more efficiently (battery-wise) in the 16 GB config, as opposed to 12 GB setup? Ignoring multitasking, focusing on single-tasking.
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Right point here. Future-proofing on this hardware is very tempting and viable.
I guess the real question is: if, let's say, you record 8K or buff high res video or run dex or play a high demanding game, BUT one at a time, with no superposition between such memory/processor-hungry apps, will the phone perform faster/smoother/more efficiently (battery-wise) in the 16 GB config, as opposed to 12 GB setup? Ignoring multitasking, focusing on single-tasking.
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That's a good question. I don't think that can be answered without tests.
Definitely the bigger number. Bigger is always better, right?
What's future proofing?
Most of you will be trading your (S20 Ultra) in for a maxed out Note 20 in August, right?
cpufrost said:
Definitely the bigger number. Bigger is always better, right?
What's future proofing?
Most of you will be trading your (S20 Ultra) in for a maxed out Note 20 in August, right?
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Yes, bigger is generally better. The point is if bigger is really necessary or not (i.e. overkill) for certain usage patterns.
Future proofing means ensuring that you get the most advanced hardware/technology specs at a certain point in time in order to ensure that your device will not be outrun by future devices very time soon and will support more demanding future apps. In our case, if you buy the 16 GB variant, for sure you will not need to upgrade your phone for the next couple of years, RAM will likely be more than sufficient for running any apps that could possibly be launched in the future, no matter how memory intensive they would be.
I personally am not a Note fan, I don't use the sPen.
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Just wanted to catch your opinion on the real benefits of buying the 16 GB variant as opposed to 12 GB model. Make abstraction of the storage capacity increase, just assume that you don't really need 512 GB as long as you have expandable storage (via microSD) to use if really needed.
I am thinking of arguments justifying the additional RAM increase, considering that 12 GB is already more than enough for multitasking., even for running 2-3 RAM-intensive games at the same time
Looking forward to your opinions! :good: Thank you!
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@ 16 gigs -
- In theory, yes better..
In practical usage, I highly,highly doubt it.
Well worth the extra RAM, I'm getting this phone 12GB purely because it's my main work tool and use some ram hungry apps all day, being able to put the main 3 in RAM with larger brighter screen and larger battery is well worth the money .
I spend 9 hours a day using a phone
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katolink said:
Yes, bigger is generally better. The point is if bigger is really necessary or not (i.e. overkill) for certain usage patterns.
Future proofing means ensuring that you get the most advanced hardware/technology specs at a certain point in time in order to ensure that your device will not be outrun by future devices very time soon and will support more demanding future apps. In our case, if you buy the 16 GB variant, for sure you will not need to upgrade your phone for the next couple of years, RAM will likely be more than sufficient for running any apps that could possibly be launched in the future, no matter how memory intensive they would be.
I personally am not a Note fan, I don't use the sPen.
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I was being sarcastic.
16GB is pure marketing, nothing more.
By the time 16GB is relevant on mobile devices, the CPU would be so outdated and slow.
Storage OTOH, matters more than anything.
8K video at decent bit rates; 200Mbps and up, uses a LOT of storage. As will better multichannel audio.
8K seems to be a gimmick at first but when you look at how much info you have in each frame, and there are 24 of them each second, it makes it so much easier to get a still from that video that simply wouldn't be possible by shooting pics with the regular snapper. Serious DSLR users are laughing, but you can't fit one in your pocket!
Storage irrelevant to me as everything I do is saved in the cloud
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Until you have no signal coverage.
As commented with he increase in camera specs it will consume a lot of data. 8K will default to internal memory so for me it's important.
bomp306 said:
Until you have no signal coverage.
As commented with he increase in camera specs it will consume a lot of data. 8K will default to internal memory so for me it's important.
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Internal memory or microSD card, which can be up to 1 TB. From this perspective, choosing the 16 GB RAM model just because it has 512 GB internal memory does not seem necessary. Well, unless you cannot use a memory card because you have 2 SIMs inserted in the hybrid slot and your carrier does not support eSIM
Hence, IMO the real choice is between the two RAM sizes, rather than internal memory specs.
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Internal memory or microSD card, which can be up to 1 TB. From this perspective, choosing the 16 GB RAM model just because it has 512 GB internal memory does not seem necessary. Well, unless you cannot use a memory card because you have 2 SIMs inserted in the hybrid slot and your carrier does not support eSIM
Hence, IMO the real choice is between the two RAM sizes, rather than internal memory specs.
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Internal memory is MUCH faster than ANY microSD card!
cpufrost said:
Internal memory is MUCH faster than ANY microSD card!
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But you still use internal memory for storage, isn't it? So what's the deal? Where does faster internal memory help?