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possible to return phone after rootiing?

Has anyone tried returning the phone after rooting it? How about after flashing a different ROM? Any differences before the 30 days and after as far as the same questions above go?
I'm curious before I decide to root my phone.
Thanks!

You can just run the stock RUU to go back to the shipped rom. Check the wiki if you need it.

damn this question has been asked alot

I'm more interested in if you can't flash it back to stock Ruu. For example if you have an issue and need to return it or send it in for warranty repair and switching back to stock isn't possible.

bigdogdan2 said:
I'm more interested in if you can't flash it back to stock Ruu. For example if you have an issue and need to return it or send it in for warranty repair and switching back to stock isn't possible.
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By rooting you have voided your warranty. So no, if you root and leave it rooted then your warranty is void. I just restored my rooted phone to factory so I can return it due to the screen separation issue.

if the unit powers on you can RUU, else you cant. if sprint/radioshack whomeever cant power the unit on and you've not opened it or water damaged it, then it should be fine to replace. they arent going to hunt you down, at least i dont think they will.

yeah my evo was in a boot loop while rooted, with damagecontrol 3.2 rom, and a new radio update and i got a new one, within the 30 days of course. but i learned my lesson and bought a security plan XD

everyones still within the 30 days

Last week I was in the BB I bought my phone from, trying to get a replacement for a few issues. When the rep walked away I took a peek at his monitor, as he was searching for any memos on the issues i had.
He had one email open that pertained to Rooted devices and how to test if the device was rooted or not, and instructions on NOT to accept any returns if the device was rooted considering it does void the warranty and changes the original item itself.
Just a heads up lol.

That's kinda dumb. Rooting is just software change it's not any change to the hardware itself, it should be fine to return.

strung said:
That's kinda dumb. Rooting is just software change it's not any change to the hardware itself, it should be fine to return.
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But rooting can also brick your phone if you do it wrong.

Yes, but if you get it back to stock RUU then any such risk has been neutralized.

Telus Desire ROM Needed ASAP.

Hi. I recently rooted and installed a WWE "sensefroyo" rom off the internet.
And I just figured out (since a couple of hours) that my speaker isn't working AT ALL.
Before, it worked when you left the battery out for a minute and put it back in. it worked flawlessly. But after a while it'd go back to being messed up.
Now its screwed. and wont work at all.
I didnt realise I needed to get it replaced till now.
I really need the Telus Desire rom asap. As I just emailed them about it, and most likely need to get it replaced/fixed. And I dont know much about Telus, if you lose warranty privileges if you root/custom ROM it.
Unless I can tell them that I installed the official 2.2 ROM (dont know if it needs root) off those .exe files (the RUU_Signed) kind. (They didn't work for me. So i rooted using recovery)
Or if you can link me to one where I can find a rom that does not require rooting, and has an .exe file and a copy of a .zip kind.
I wrote a lot here, and its all over the place.
Right now. Either link me to the Telus Desire rom. or one where I can flash without rooting.
I am going to unroot as soon as I get one of those two things^
Thanks. I just hope you guys know what kind of freaky situation I am in.

Where did you buy it, and how long has it been since you bought it?
Depending on those factors, you may not need to worry too much.

I had it activated on a 3 year contract almost a week ago(Not even a week)
What do you mean by I will not have to worry about these things?
Is Telus a carrier that is more on the 'chill' side of things?
EDIT - So I just got off the phone with Telus.
The representative told me if I installed something that Telus did not release. That basically voids my warranty. So now I really need to get back exactly as it was before.
Can someone please help me out here?
I need to go to a dealer soon to get it replaced.
I am pretty sure I can unroot it myself with no issues I guess.
I really need something that matches with the same stats as a Telus Desire.

You should probably try starting over.
If your rom is still rooted, get ROM Manager and install clockworkmod.
You can install something stable like opendesire and wipe data/cache.
You should be fine, unless you really have some unusual desire to be on Telus' rom.

I was wondering if someone can post what their 'software version' looked like on a Telus Desire
Maybe then I can try to get the same radio and 'stats' as a factory device.
I got on a rep and they also said that the worst thing that can happen is your device will be sent back.
They even said that some people wont even notice the software change and stuff.
If at the end I cant get a Telus rom. I would LOVE a link to an Eclair build rom. Possibly one that is an official.

Didn't you nandroid backup prior to moving to froyo?
From what I understand you can restore from that.

mfpreach said:
Didn't you nandroid backup prior to moving to froyo?
From what I understand you can restore from that.
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I actually have NO idea what nandroid was.
I just followed instructions off a tut on xda.
So I cant seem to find factory eclair roms.
Now I read around a little bit more.
And just feel completely stupid.
Please. Someone. A factory Eclair build.

start by getting clockworkmod installed.
Without knowing what state your device is in, it's tough to help you.
but with clockworkmod recovery going, you will easily be able to switch between roms.

Honestly you couldn't have bought it that long ago, just return it to the store, the guys don't even know how to check.

routehero said:
start by getting clockworkmod installed.
Without knowing what state your device is in, it's tough to help you.
but with clockworkmod recovery going, you will easily be able to switch between roms.
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I already do have it. Thats how i installed all the different roms (Leedroid, Nightly Cyanogen, and then eventually the official one)
Hold on for a couple of minutes as I can provide you with some of my hboot and so recovery options. (Using the WiFi hot spot at the moment)
Other then that. Here is my 'software version'
android 2.2 with the latest 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 radio
Kernel is
2.6.32.15-g1fc4045
[email protected]#1
Build #
2.06.832.1 CL207528 test-keys
Software Number
2.06.832.1
with the obvious webkit 3.1
hboot info?
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.83.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.09.00.20
Jun 10 2010, 12:12:05
Used ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1
Yes it is an SLCD display?
you needs more? - tell me what exactly you need and how I can get it

download opendesire 3.5.0, wipe data/cache, flash that.
after you set it up, let us know what's not working.

If I were you, I would go back to the store you got it from, with your recipt and contract. You have 14 days to return any phone. That's how I got my desire, I returned a Hero. Make sure you take everythign back you got, charger, phones, etc. Tell them waiting to get a band new phone fixed is a waste of your time, and you want to exchange the phone right away.
So long as you have a sense UI ROM running, I doubt they will know you have rooted the phone. The guys where I bought the phone didn't know too much about it.
If you managed to get a tech support guy to tell you they might not notice, you clearly have the power to get what you need from people. Be forceful if you have to, within 2 weeks they should just give you a brand new phone. After 14days though, your gonna have to live with no speaker, hope it's actually a software issue(doesn't sould like it if even stock it was failing), or send it back and hope they don't miss it. To the best of my knowledge there are no Telus official roms to be found, but there are many official roms from other places. As long as your background doesn't say VodaPhone or something, how will they know?

ajanu said:
If I were you, I would go back to the store you got it from, with your recipt and contract. You have 14 days to return any phone. That's how I got my desire, I returned a Hero. Make sure you take everythign back you got, charger, phones, etc. Tell them waiting to get a band new phone fixed is a waste of your time, and you want to exchange the phone right away.
So long as you have a sense UI ROM running, I doubt they will know you have rooted the phone. The guys where I bought the phone didn't know too much about it.
If you managed to get a tech support guy to tell you they might not notice, you clearly have the power to get what you need from people. Be forceful if you have to, within 2 weeks they should just give you a brand new phone. After 14days though, your gonna have to live with no speaker, hope it's actually a software issue(doesn't sould like it if even stock it was failing), or send it back and hope they don't miss it. To the best of my knowledge there are no Telus official roms to be found, but there are many official roms from other places. As long as your background doesn't say VodaPhone or something, how will they know?
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Telus has 30 day DOA over the counter exchange.

YAh but he made the mistake of telling them e rooted and flashed it (why on earth would any one do that i dont know)
So they have flagged that IMEI in the system as void.
Your best bet is to try doing a wipe and flashing back to the telus 2.1 rom and radio, you will, the recovery is gone though as we dont hava ruu.

Actually. I didnt. I went straight for asking the question off a residential phone that uses Rogers. So they don't know who I was or any account related things.
The first time I called though, I told them that the speaker wasnt working and I wanted it replaced.
So no my IMEI is not flagged, guarantee you that part.
I will try using the OpenDesire 3.5.0 with "clear/wire cache"

This might work for you and i think its your best bet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710085&postcount=3
Go to the above thread, follow the instructions and make a gold card.
then go to the following thread, download official froyo rom and flash it. It looks almost the same as the original rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753672

I cant seem to do the goldcard thing.
I am using the official 2.2 at the moment.
It does look the same as 2.1 Telus itself.
What does it mean over here?
# Ensure you have unzipped the SDK, then open a command prompt to the extract location. Change to the 'tools directory.
# Type
Code:
adb shell cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc1/mmc1:*/cid
and press enter. You should get a very long number which looks like this: 532600bd227d9c0347329407514d5402.
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I cant seem to do the "command prompt" location thing.
Someone wanna help me? maybe with some screenshots?

I am done making the GoldCard. What does it even do though?
It has something to do with switching to the factory rom..
Now. I have issues with the RUU. It does not wait long enough for the phone to be in bootloader.
EDIT - Is there any way I can "remove" or uninstall the Superuser Permissions app and the "Wi-Fi Hotspot" app? To make it appear even more legitimate.

da pavinator said:
I am done making the GoldCard. What does it even do though?
It has something to do with switching to the factory rom..
Now. I have issues with the RUU. It does not wait long enough for the phone to be in bootloader.
EDIT - Is there any way I can "remove" or uninstall the Superuser Permissions app and the "Wi-Fi Hotspot" app? To make it appear even more legitimate.
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I packed up the telus stock rom from a nandroid dump you can try it.
http://www.mightyrom.com/mrx/MRX/Bravo/Stock/Telus_HTC_Desire_Stock_2.1_NoRADIO.zip

Hey I needed to unroot my phone too and I tried a bunch of things then I was following procedures to root my phone again because I tried installing the Rom that was posted by the person that posted before me and I messed up and got lots of errors when I got the phone started and had to force close a bunch of things constantly. Anyways I followed step 3 of the tut for rooting TELUS desires on this forum site and when it restarted I got my stock TELUS Rom back unrooted. This is the step I followed
3. Go to HBOOT, this is done by shutting down your phone and powering on the device while holding the Power button down and pushing Volume down at the same time, once HBOOT is loaded do a wipe (Clear Storage). You can navigate the menus by using the volume rocker and the Power button to select your option.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7818278 is the link to the tut I was following.
I dunno how it worked but it did, I got my stock TELUS Rom by doing this. Maybe I got lucky and maybe you might too. Oh and just for your info, the tut I used to root my desire initially was this one forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750888. Good luck

[Q] Did I brick it?

SOooooooooooo, I was hoping to get Froyo installed on my DInc, and considered waiting for the OTA version, but wanted to do a full wipe and start from scratch. I got a hold of the RUU file and tried to install via the windows interface. When I couldnt get that to work I exctracted the Rom.zip file, renamed it PB31img.zip and ran it through the recovery screen. Everything seemed to work just fine. It verified the file several times, then asked me if I wanted to update. I hit volume up for yes and allowed it to do its thing. It showed several different screens with different progress bars, and seemed to reboot several times. One of the times though, it just went black. Now I cant get it to do anything.
So the question lies therein,,,, did I kill it? I researched a lot before, and have obviously been researching since, and feel like I followed everything correctly. If I did mess it up, is there any saving it?

Jimmydaux said:
SOooooooooooo, I was hoping to get Froyo installed on my DInc, and considered waiting for the OTA version, but wanted to do a full wipe and start from scratch. I got a hold of the RUU file and tried to install via the windows interface. When I couldnt get that to work I exctracted the Rom.zip file, renamed it PB31img.zip and ran it through the recovery screen. Everything seemed to work just fine. It verified the file several times, then asked me if I wanted to update. I hit volume up for yes and allowed it to do its thing. It showed several different screens with different progress bars, and seemed to reboot several times. One of the times though, it just went black. Now I cant get it to do anything.
So the question lies therein,,,, did I kill it? I researched a lot before, and have obviously been researching since, and feel like I followed everything correctly. If I did mess it up, is there any saving it?
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Well let me ask you a few questions.
1) how much battery did you have
2) what radio and software were you on previously.
3)s-off, or s-on
4) does it give you the charging light on the phone when plugged in?

Do you remember if it got past the "flashing hboot" and "flashing radio" screens all the way? If it did, you can still probably recover. Does the light turn on when you plug it in?

I probably had 80-85% battery. It was stock other than an update to the 2.05 radio.
It went through a few screens but I wasnt paying much attention to what they were exactly. I think I was nervous enough that I had to work on something else while it was working *laundry*
Software was stock 2.1. I hadnt done anything with that. From the Ruu I think I remember it being 1.36 or something close to that. Deffinitely not the 3.xx that the RUU said it would flash it to.
And the one that I think is going to seal my fate,,, no, the battery light does not come on when plugged in.....
I think I sense the answer,,, hello expensive paper weight,,, door stop, potato gun ammunition...

Jimmydaux said:
I probably had 80-85% battery. It was stock other than an update to the 2.05 radio.
It went through a few screens but I wasnt paying much attention to what they were exactly. I think I was nervous enough that I had to work on something else while it was working *laundry*
Software was stock 2.1. I hadnt done anything with that. From the Ruu I think I remember it being 1.36 or something close to that. Deffinitely not the 3.xx that the RUU said it would flash it to.
And the one that I think is going to seal my fate,,, no, the battery light does not come on when plugged in.....
I think I sense the answer,,, hello expensive paper weight,,, door stop, potato gun ammunition...
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The question though is: How did it happen?
It could be possible that the RUU download was corrupted. Specifically the bootloader. Do you have the insurance?
Also a battery pull / charge and pray couldnt hurt at this point. How long has it been this way?

Fretless said:
The question though is: How did it happen?
It could be possible that the RUU download was corrupted. Specifically the bootloader. Do you have the insurance?
Also a battery pull / charge and pray couldnt hurt at this point. How long has it been this way?
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I totally agree, if on radio 2.05x it doesn't make much of any sense that a brick happened.

Agreed. In fact, I just performed this exact same procedure myself and it worked perfectly. The only difference was that I had s-off and the stock radio.

Were certainly missing a variable here.

Jimmydaux said:
It was stock other than an update to the 2.05 radio.
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Bingo.
If I was to point to one thing, it would be the 2.x radio, as this ruu and the accompanying ota probably assume the use of the 1.x radio, since the 2.x ota was never publicly released. Unless the battery somehow died or fried in the middle of the flash. I feel for you man. I would cry if mine died...
I'd point my inexperienced unlearned finger squarely at the 2.05.x radio.
Dude, this is a very good chance for you to make verizon give you a new one. Think of it as a golden opportunity.

Fretless said:
Bingo.
If I was to point to one thing, it would be the 2.x radio, as this ruu and the accompanying ota probably assume the use of the 1.x radio, since the 2.x ota was never publicly released. Unless the battery somehow died or fried in the middle of the flash. I feel for you man. I would cry if mine died...
I'd point my inexperienced unlearned finger squarely at the 2.05.x radio.
Dude, this is a very good chance for you to make verizon give you a new one. Think of it as a golden opportunity.
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Also called warranty fraud.

ACD168 said:
Also called warranty fraud.
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Not so! Its called warranty use!
He did not root the phone, so its not fraud. All he was doing was installing what he thought was a legitimate RUU.
Not fraud.
Apologies if i missed something.

Fretless said:
Not so! Its called warranty use!
He did not root the phone, so its not fraud. All he was doing was installing what he thought was a legitimate RUU.
Not fraud.
Apologies if i missed something.
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I agree, just being a smart ass lol. I'd make full use outta calling for a refurb.

ACD168 said:
I agree, just being a smart ass lol. I'd make full use outta calling for a refurb.
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To be honest, I'd be a hot candidate for warranty fraud if mine messed up. Call me evil...

The 2.05 radio is not to blame. I had the that same radio and used the Rom.zip to update my phone with no problems. Only difference was I have s-off but that shouldn't make a difference here. Everything else was stock including the recovery.
Sent from my Droid Incredible

OP, did you perform a checksum on the RUU to verify it was a complete download?
I also don't think the 2.05 radio is to blame here either.
Hmm....

Technically, it is warranty fraud, since he's invoking the warranty right by damage caused by the user, which warranties don't cover unless they're accidental damage warranties.

The 2.05 radio shouldn't matter. The RUU contains a radio img not a patch like the 2.05 leak.

Well friends, I couldnt get anything to happen. I took it into the Verizon store and I told them that I was trying to install the update and something happened mid install and it died. I asked him if that would be something I would have to file an insurance claim on, but he said that it wasnt my fault if it died during the update........... his words.... so they gave me another phone to replace it. THey were all out of their 'replacement' phones, so I actually got a brand new phone because of this whole deal. I lucked out I know! And yes,,,, i may have shed a tear or two yesterday when it happend, but after walking into the V store, I had a crazy overwhelming relief that I wasnt going to be at a complete loss.
So, just in case anyone is following this,,, what other variables would need to be looked at in order to see why this happened.
I did not run a Checksum, but it seemed to run other than the driver issues. The Rom file that was installed was 168 mb, renamed properly and installed through the recovery screen from the sd card root. The phone was not touched during this time. Did I just have a misfortunate run in with what I thought was a legitimate way to get the update installed?

Jimmydaux said:
Well friends, I couldnt get anything to happen. I took it into the Verizon store and I told them that I was trying to install the update and something happened mid install and it died. I asked him if that would be something I would have to file an insurance claim on, but he said that it wasnt my fault if it died during the update........... his words.... so they gave me another phone to replace it. THey were all out of their 'replacement' phones, so I actually got a brand new phone because of this whole deal. I lucked out I know! And yes,,,, i may have shed a tear or two yesterday when it happend, but after walking into the V store, I had a crazy overwhelming relief that I wasnt going to be at a complete loss.
So, just in case anyone is following this,,, what other variables would need to be looked at in order to see why this happened.
I did not run a Checksum, but it seemed to run other than the driver issues. The Rom file that was installed was 168 mb, renamed properly and installed through the recovery screen from the sd card root. The phone was not touched during this time. Did I just have a misfortunate run in with what I thought was a legitimate way to get the update installed?
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You brick your phone and they give you a brand new one. no way, how old was your other phone. and what state are you in. they took care of u.

You going to tell on him lol
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[official] Problems with Telus OTA update.

So, just to keep telus update waiters in touch with whats going on with the OTA Froyo 2.2 update.
EDIT : The RUU is also avaiable ! You can continue to mess with your desire..and get back to the factory ROM if any problem:
[RUU] RUU_Bravo_Froyo_TELUS_WWE_2.25.661.2_Radio_32.49.0 0.32U_5.11.05.27 (thanks to football)
http://www.multiupload.com/T5H6PHUL33
The update is now available. Go to settings > about phone >check updates....to force the update.
Before launching it....be sure to have 90mo on the SD card free and 25mo on the phone.
http://fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Bravo_Fro....2-1.29.661.1_R_release_Pf7sjzjrgcmpsve12.zip
radio for those who just want that. http://www.mightyrom.com/mrx/MRX/Bravo/Radio/Signed/32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27.zip
For root users...if you have problems with installing the update or if you are sucked in a boot loop or if you get this message
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted
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Do this:
On your Phone
1. open Astro and go to "download" folder
2. long-press and select "edit"
3. press "move"
4. press back button
5. press "edit" from the top menu bar
6. press "paste"
7. long press the file
8. press "edit", then press "rename"
rename to update.zip then press OK
Installation
*power off phone
*hold "volume down" and turn on phone
A screen should appear showing your phone's system searching for various files. Scroll down to “recovery” using the volume down button and press the “Power” button
*When you see the triangle with an exclamation point symbol, press the “Power” and “Volume Up” buttons at the same time. This may take a few attempts
*From the menu that appears, use the trackball to select "Apply sdcard:update.zip." Press down on the trackball to start.
*When the screen displays "Install from sdcard complete" use trackball to select "reboot system now" and wait for the phone to power back up.
I will put links to how to resolve different problems later...

If it's not out tomorrow, I think that's gonna be the push I need to make one of those fancy goldcards and install an RUU version of Froyo. What does the telus one have anyway, EDGE disabled?
EDIT: Thanks for collecting this info; more than I knew before.

The telus update won't offer much as I know. They will put some of their crappy apps that you can't delete...add some feature in apps (music dowloading or ringtones downloading... with some downloadable stuff) and thats it.
Any developers on XDA could do this job within 1 week... Htc desire was out on july or august on Telus... and they struggle to get it done in time.
Gold card is not a bad idea at all. Avoiding warranty kinda hurt me.

ecitron said:
We've been waiting for 4 months now...1 week or two won't kill us.
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I got one of the very first Desires from Telus and had it running a custom ROM within three days.
I'm on 2.2.1 now. LOL!

no reason in loosing your mind over this
my phone is currently not working because of radio not compatible with froyo issue. And this RUU might possibly be the only i can fix my problem. No one on this forum was able to give me any help.
Every minute is too long of a wait. RUUs should be out the second a phone is out with the original rom and so on. Not when updates come up and the whole world had time to test those updates..and then..you know what..last minute we notice there's an issue. It's ok, it's not like people stuck in a 3 year contract with a nice paper weight as a phone can do anything about it either..

marinierb said:
I got one of the very first Desires from Telus and had it running a custom ROM within three days.
I'm on 2.2.1 now. LOL!
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Root and flash a custom ROM is an easy option... anyone can do it... but like I said... many people don't want to loose their one year warranty...
I'll wait to see what's in the update package... if too many ****ty telus's apps ... I will probably jump in the boat. Unbrand the phone with a gold card and get OTA updates directly from HTC seems to be the cleanest solution for me.
Come on Telus...don't disappoint us ...
btw: More then 50% Desire's owner (Canad) are not with telus... we all bought the phone at full price. And get stucked with telus's apps ( and you can't remove them) will defininetly be disappointing.

ecitron said:
Unbrand the phone with a gold card
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No need to do the goldcard thing. You can use Unrevoked.

ecitron said:
btw: More then 50% Desire's owner (Canad) are not with telus... we all bought the phone at full price. And get stucked with telus's apps ( and you can't remove them) will defininetly be disappointing.
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That could be the reason to why Telus took out the outright price. I'm with Telus and I even bought it outright then gave it off and bought another outright a month later.
And yes Telus are one of the worst for OS updates, the Hero just got the 2.1 update today. And the Milestone has been taking forever.

Good morning canada.
Last news from people who called this morning.
It will be the 28th, 29th, 30th and finally the last day for all the unlucky people 31st.
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I will call later in the day by myself and get u in touch.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yeah my phone made a strange noise last night and i figured it was this update.
Telus is the worst with OS updates. It was a full year before the Black Berry os update came to the Storm. I tried to do some freaking out at the store to get a new phone style stuff when they told me the new update just came out. I told them it had been a year- why would I assume it would ever come out?
Ill wait to see what ****ty Telus apps they install (is that what is taking them so long?) before I decide what I want to do. I could unbrand or switch to a diff rom- but I think I like sense.

I can understand the "RAGE" about telus sucking at updates. But why are you guys so upset. they will release froyo, all the **** in it will be old as dirt. no one will use anything from it to build a custom rom. And if you want something good you will flash a custom one.
Its like telling the future, except im pretty much guaranteed to be right.
The only thing if at all im concerned about is the ril and the radio.
And maybe a telus voice call app cuz they have it on my account, but be ****ed if i know how to get it going right now.
As for telus and installing ****ty apps. they have been good about that lately, i expect to see little to no Telus apps on the rom. The 2.1 rom was devoid of anything telus but the home page.

Good is subjective my friend. If you find froyo old as dirt its ok... but four those who want to keep their warranty...we have no choice. The probability of loosing 600$ is enough to not make changes on our phone...that will result on loosing the warranty.
Your are not the first...and not the last person to tell us to root..unbrand and bla bla bla...
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ecitron said:
Good is subjective my friend. If you find froyo old as dirt its ok... but four those who want to keep their warranty...we have no choice. The probability of loosing 600$ is enough to not make changes on our phone...that will result on loosing the warranty.
Your are not the first...and not the last person to tell us to root..unbrand and bla bla bla...
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Loosing warranty is relative to the knowledge of the user.
There is a pretty easy way to put the device back to factory software if you take the correct steps.
Thats if you have to. If the device is a brick before you return it then no harm.
ive already unrooted a telus desire, restored the stock rom from a nandroid backup (unrooted the backup) then flashed the radio back to the stock telus radio. after this i used fastboot to flash a stock recovery back on and lastly flashed the .83.0001 Hboot with fastboot, removing the s-off hboot. effectively returning the whole device back to stock. with all the correct software version numbers.

Juggalo_X said:
Loosing warranty is relative to the knowledge of the user.
There is a pretty easy way to put the device back to factory software if you take the correct steps.
Thats if you have to. If the device is a brick before you return it then no harm.
ive already unrooted a telus desire, restored the stock rom from a nandroid backup (unrooted the backup) then flashed the radio back to the stock telus radio. after this i used fastboot to flash a stock recovery back on and lastly flashed the .83.0001 Hboot with fastboot, removing the s-off hboot. effectively returning the whole device back to stock. with all the correct software version numbers.
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It's good to know that it is possible to return to the stock config. I think a lot of us "waiters" would get off the bench if we knew it was possible to go back to stock if necessary.
Juggalo_X, would you consider writing a step by step process for returning a Desire to the stock config? Since you have already done it...

The thread is not about how to flash a stock ROM.
I will pay to see you restoring a stock rom when The screen is dead or when your phone wont start...
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I got a Telus Desire, so here is my delema (and question)
1. Like HTC Sense and would like to keep it
2. Have a lot of reason to move to 2.2 (BT dialing)
3. want to root phone
I'm guessing there are stock HTC Desire rom floating around (from the factory unlocked desire) but are those rooted/rootable? I heard HTC has been making it harder and harder for us to root. And will rom for AMOLED work with sLCD phone?
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Oky did some more Google-ing and found this, might be useful to you guys
://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
This is the rooted official Desire Rom
don't have time now but will have look through if this will work for our radio and sLCD issue.
if you guys already know, feel free to post and tell us
AlphaX

I tried a similar (probably the same) rom, but from this thread:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
I updated the radio to the latest, everything seems to be good and no bugs that I can see.

ecitron said:
The thread is not about how to flash a stock ROM.
I will pay to see you restoring a stock rom when The screen is dead or when your phone wont start...
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There would be no point in restoring a dead device.
I'm under the impression that you think htc checks the flash on every dead device? this is not so. its cheaper for them to replace the whole main board in a device rather then pay an engineer to remove the board put it on a bed of nails dump the rom via jtag routine and then analyze the binary images.
Also, If we're on the topic of paying me to restore a device with a blank screen send me one ill jtag it for fun and restore the device. How much you willing to pay? i need a Desire Z you know
On a side note, In the past 5 years ive probably sent at the VERY least 15 bricked devices back to HTC, WITH software that would void the warranty on them. and i have ALWAYS got my device returned fixed under warranty every single time.

Juggalo_X said:
On a side note, In the past 5 years ive probably sent at the VERY least 15 bricked devices back to HTC, WITH software that would void the warranty on them. and i have ALWAYS got my device returned fixed under warranty every single time.
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Pretty difficult to believe that. 15 bricked...
Also just about anyone (cell carrier, manufaturer via phone, etc) will tell you rooting, unlocking and modifying (removing bloatware) will void warranty. I have heard of people sending in devices with those and succeeding but not very often.

15 bricked in 5 Sears. A reason to not listen to you. Not everyone has the time to mess with their phones that much...learn to jtag..etc..
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Evo Unroot Repair

So my Evo charger port has been broken for awhile and I finally have the chance to take it in tomorrow to see if they will repair it under warranty. I obviously have to unroot it for them to do this, since I'm on CM7 right now.
So I'm a little confused - I flash the PCIMG to unroot but after I need to go to a stock sense rom. The stock rom threads have been saying if I flash them, I won't be able to re-root my phone. They will probably just repair my phone so I want to be able to root it afterwards.
So what am I suppose to do in this situation? They said they would fix my phone in under and hour if there is a problem.

ipractice said:
So my Evo charger port has been broken for awhile and I finally have the chance to take it in tomorrow to see if they will repair it under warranty. I obviously have to unroot it for them to do this, since I'm on CM7 right now.
So I'm a little confused - I flash the PCIMG to unroot but after I need to go to a stock sense rom. The stock rom threads have been saying if I flash them, I won't be able to re-root my phone. They will probably just repair my phone so I want to be able to root it afterwards.
So what am I suppose to do in this situation? They said they would fix my phone in under and hour if there is a problem.
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you will be able to re root again after you get it worked on, no worries. All of the Evo software that is currently available is rootable.
Unrooting is easy, and basically two steps. First, if you rooted with unrevoked, or ever flashed the Unrevoked Forever tool, then you first need to flash the unrevoked S on tool. That will turn your S on. After you flash it, go to the bootloader, and confirm that your S is On. Once that's set, download the PC36IMG, and put it on the main directory of your sd card (not in any folders) Be sure it's named exactly PC36IMG (capitals matter, must be all caps). THen boot into the bootloader, and at that piont the bootloader should find the PC36IMG file, and ask you to update. Press Volume up to say yes. Once it's done flashing, when you reboot you'll be back on a stock sense rom, s on, and ready to take it in for service. You'll be able to root again afterwards using any of the current available methods. Good luck.
PC36IMG's and RUU's:: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu
Unrevoked forever S on tool attatched below.

unfortunately there (to my knowledge) isnt a way to "repair" your charging port since this is a known issue with the HTC EVO.. i know because I work for Sprint. Unless they have someone there that can sauder your port back on or anything like that your probably just going to get a new phone. what i would tell you to do is unroot it, let them order a new device or swap one out and root that one..just some food for thought.

dgomez720 said:
unfortunately there (to my knowledge) isnt a way to "repair" your charging port since this is a known issue with the HTC EVO.. i know because I work for Sprint. Unless they have someone there that can sauder your port back on or anything like that your probably just going to get a new phone. what i would tell you to do is unroot it, let them order a new device or swap one out and root that one..just some food for thought.
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You must work in a call center.
Evo charging port durability is a known issue. Since it is hardware, a technician cannot reject the device due to being rooted, only if it is a software issue.

You're going to get a new phone, they cannot fix the port as others have mentioned. Don't worry about how easy it will be to root again, as you'll have a different phone anyway.

No i don't actually. and yes I do realize that unless its a SW issue we will work on it. I have done it many a times. If we end up having to swap the device out it must come back with the same SW as it left when you first bought it. Its just our M&P. some of our rf testers will not read rooted devices which is why we don't.. We are required to test every aspect of the device from radio to Screen.
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