I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
Echinox said:
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
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My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?
oh not bad!
Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
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just reflash an older radio
bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .
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Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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What do these different radio versions mean?
By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy
I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help
First off, I've had WM phones for years and flashed them to bits but I'm pretty nooby when it comes to Android, so bear with me.
Alrighty then, after all the hoo-ha with the last update I've held off debranding my Orange Desire for all this time - I got mine on Orange launch day so I've had to put up with the Orange crap for a long while. Basically all I want to do it debrand and get FroYo, I'm not interested in rooting yet but I can't really afford to unlock it (student loan is getting very low this summer). I understand I need a Goldcard etc and I'm happy enough with the procedure.
My question, when the 2.2 RUU appears, will it lock my Desire if I flash it with the Goldcard?
edit - Another question, if I flash to an old debranded ROM, will I have to run through the problematic updates before I'm offered the 2.2 OTA update, hence locking my phone?
Use your goldcard for debranding and updating and you should be fine. Personally I would just buy an unlock code and debrand to an older ROM and then do any OTA updates.
Mine is Orange debranded and updated just fine when using the goldcard.
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aindow said:
Use your goldcard for debranding and updating and you should be fine. Personally I would just buy an unlock code and debrand to an older ROM and then do any OTA updates.
Mine is Orange debranded and updated just fine when using the goldcard.
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Thanks for the reply, I'll wait for the RUU and see how it goes I guess.
Anyone know how long it usually takes for the RUU to appear after the OTA is put out?
Hey,
I have a HTC Desire that i brought from Orange recently, however i have since then rooted, flashed custom roms and also paid for the phone to be unlocked.
So how would i go about unrooting the phone in order to allow it too accept the official OTA update rather than using any of the current custom FroYo roms?
Am i able to unroot to a generic rom?
you might want to change the name of the thread as it'll make people think you have the official froyo release from orange.
Hey guys,
I am a total newb on all this debranding, flashing business. Spend the past week checking all sorts of forums etc and also waiting endlessly for froyo to be released to our Desires! Problem is i am still a bit unclear, so if anyone could give me help, that'd be really nice
Ok, here is the thing:
I have an Orange branded phone, got it via phones4u on orange, ive already unlocked it with a code and currently using 02 Sim on it.
I'd like to retain my warranty, so wouldn't like to root, so my other choice is flashing it right ? :S
I just want the stock froyo on my HTC, but since its orange branded i heard that there might be some problems with radio or something :S
Tbh, I dont even know what radio means! LOL i just want the stock Froyo released by HTC, on my phone without waiting for orange to bring their crapped down version
Any help, please!!!
PS: ive got a spar memory card for any gold card business, just need some pointers for that
De-branding could technically void your warranty but you'll need to search for making a goldcard on the forum and then flash with either 2.1 and update via OTA or Froyo (though I'm not sure that's possible just yet).
oh i see , once i flash it , will i have to install anything else like radios etc? :S
By using the stock rom, does it mean that, next time htc releases a update i can just do it ota?
there is no other way apart from voiding warranty is there ?:S
As you've already unlocked you're good to go! The whole thing should take about 30 minutes but you'll lose all you're data.
I think you'll have to void your warranty but I reckon it's worth it to rid of Monopoly, Bowling, and Orange-bloody-Messenger and get Froyo now.
just one thing what are the chances of my phone bricking up and where can i get the stock rom with froyo released by htc? Also once i got the stock rom, what happens with updates? will OTA be working properly or do i have to reflash it everytime there is an update??
can someone show me a step by step guide on how to do this all? :O
I am a total newb on this
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As you've already unlocked you're good to go! The whole thing should take about 30 minutes but you'll lose all you're data.
I think you'll have to void your warranty but I reckon it's worth it to rid of Monopoly, Bowling, and Orange-bloody-Messenger and get Froyo now.
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Well I've just stepped through that portal... Unlocked the phone then OTA 2.1 update followed by OTA 2.2 stock rom. Now running Froyo on 'Orange' phone.
Flawless, just going through my apps now. Needed the newest version of HTC Sync though.
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Well I've just stepped through that portal... Unlocked the phone then OTA 2.1 update followed by OTA 2.2 stock rom. Now running Froyo on 'Orange' phone.
Flawless, just going through my apps now. Needed the newest version of HTC Sync though.
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oh i see, could you please show me where you got the instructions to get your phone unbranded, where you got the roms and radios etc? still not 100% sure on how to do that :O
Ive decided i am gonna get rid of all this orange crap lol
Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel
Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.
You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.
Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers