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[Q] htcsense.com [official rom]

does anyone think that this will work on a rooted desire running official 2.2 rom????

I want badly! we need this.

It's only just been announced and we won't know until it has been released on the new Desire Z, Desire HD phones. I hope they update the Desire to this new sense though.
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aindow said:
I hope they update the Desire to this new sense though.
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Me too! This new sense has some nice new features.
Looking through HD specifications I saw that it will support .avi and .xvid video playback. Could be useful if they bring this to Desire. DLNA too.
And this HTCSense.com thing sounds nice.

Even if they can't update the sense on the Desire I am sure it wouldn't take much for HTC to make an app to read phone data, many free apps already do this so should be simple in theory.
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have you guys not learnt anything from htc yet lol i can guarante you this feature will not be officially ported to the desire. the main reason is because if htc gave there older phones all the new features, what incentive do we have to spend $500/600 on a new device

AndroHero said:
have you guys not learnt anything from htc yet lol i can guarante you this feature will not be officially ported to the desire. the main reason is because if htc gave there older phones all the new features, what incentive do we have to spend $500/600 on a new device
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this is very true. i waited for ages on the 2.1 update for the hero until i got fed up and got a desire

You have a point, AndroHero, but on the other hand, how many Desire owners would actually switch to a Desire HD or Desire Z? I know there are some enthusiasts, but most of us will at the least wait until next year. I could understand not giving this to a model that's maybe 1-2 years old, but Desire is from this spring, so it wouldn't prevent many people from buying a new phone, and people would know that buying a HTC was a safe bet.
I'm not saying it will come to Desire, but I think it should.

I just got my desire and see no reason to upgrade to these phones at all.
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I bought Desire in April and I will probably skip Desire HD. Its nice phone, but I don't think its worth to upgrade, because I think soon we will have better phones available: with dual core processors, Android Gingerbread etc. So I will rather wait for those phones.

[Q] Any news on New HTC Sense for Desire?

Hi All,
Anyone know of any news whether we will be getting a ROM Upgrade or a HTC Sense update for the Desire at all?
Thanks

read on a thread somewhere in here that it is coming to desires in december.
Or u could always flash hd rom. Sense hd i mean

Patience my friend, it's coming in December

Aye December, my guess is it will be included with Gingerbread update.

Yay! Thanks guys, I love this board so much. Maybe it sounds odd, but I hate flashing ROMs rather than using the stock ones. Just feels dirty
Awaiting December.

what have you guys been smoking there will be no gingerbread or sence update i can guarantee you that

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what have you guys been smoking there will be no gingerbread or sence update i can guarantee you that
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You're base for your comment?
(Not sure about Gingerbread though...don't know where that rumour came from)

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You're base for your comment?
(Not sure about Gingerbread though...don't know where that rumour came from)
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experience.... first of all the desire is nearly a year old, waaay to old for htc support in my experience. secondly, htc want us to buy new handsets not keep our old ones, it makes no sence updating old hardware. and finally, the htc legend is only a few months older than our desire and they dont even have froyo yet, so you give me an example of htc supporting year old hardware with new software updates and i will rescind my comments

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experience.... first of all the desire is nearly a year old, waaay to old for htc support in my experience. secondly, htc want us to buy new handsets not keep our old ones, it makes no sence updating old hardware. and finally, the htc legend is only a few months older than our desire and they dont even have froyo yet, so you give me an example of htc supporting year old hardware with new software updates and i will rescind my comments
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What you say is true, of course hTC would want us to buy the Desire HD & Z, but the Desire is less than 7 months old (announced in April, realeased in May/ June), not 1 year old, that means nearly all Desire users are still bound by their contracts. If hTC was to abandon the Desire, how would their customers feel? that hTC keeps on pushing out new models but leaving the older models to wither & die? I think not...
but only time would tell

h3llb3nd4 said:
What you say is true, of course hTC would want us to buy the Desire HD & Z, but the Desire is less than 7 months old (announced in April, realeased in May/ June), not 1 year old, that means nearly all Desire users are still bound by their contracts. If hTC was to abandon the Desire, how would their customers feel? that hTC keeps on pushing out new models but leaving the older models to wither & die? I think not...
but only time would tell
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good point were all second guessing htc anyway, only they know what devices there going to continue to support

If the new Sense doesn't come to Desire do you think it'd be possible to at least get HTC's offline Maps app - like they have with other features?

I bought a Hero when it came - so I know all about HTC not supporting devices. The first update I got for that phone came in June (Eclair).
And the thing about that update was that it came in two packages. It was a ****ty update I didn't use.
It's a fact that HTC doesn't support their own devices. When it comes to the Desire, I'm hoping they won't **** on us again, it's not outdated yet.
Or maybe it is to HTC - Still. I'm going to have this phone for another 9 months so it'd be nice with at least one official update.
HTC - "We make new phones for you.
Get rid of the old one, seriously."

AndroHero said:
experience.... first of all the desire is nearly a year old, waaay to old for htc support in my experience.
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Nothing makes me angry than ignorance. This is ignorance of the highest order. The iPhone 3G was released in July 2008 and it's still getting firmware updates. The Desire is barely 7 months old.
Grrrrr!

IamMartin said:
Nothing makes me angry than ignorance. This is ignorance of the highest order. The iPhone 3G was released in July 2008 and it's still getting firmware updates. The Desire is barely 7 months old.
Grrrrr!
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The iPhone is an iPhone.
The iPhone was not made by HTC
Apple makes the iPhone
HTC and Apple are not the same
Apple/iPhone - supported.
HTC/Any device - unsupported.
It's not ignorance. It's basic knowledge. HTC doesn't continue supporting devices. Apple might. HTC doesn't.
Then again, that's one of the reasons XDA exists.

IamMartin said:
Nothing makes me angry than ignorance. This is ignorance of the highest order. The iPhone 3G was released in July 2008 and it's still getting firmware updates. The Desire is barely 7 months old.
Grrrrr!
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dont call me ignorant, instead educate yourself, the reason even 2g iphones still get firmware updates is so apple can keep the tyrannic grip on what software they use!!! htc dont use this method, and after owning maybe 10 htc devices in the last 10 years, i think i can speak with experience.

h3llb3nd4 said:
You're base for your comment?
(Not sure about Gingerbread though...don't know where that rumour came from)
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Wasn't really trying to start a rumor. Just that gingerbread is expected from Google 4th quarter and new sense expected December made sense to me that HTC would wait and give one last update together.

i seriously hope that's the case, but it seems unlikely and I think It'll be up to XDA to get gingerbread onto the Desire...

It makes me kinda sad to read this. I know it's true and yet I always hope HTC changes their game plan and just support older devices.
I know they want ppl to buy their new devices but why would you buy a HTC you can only use for roughly a half year and then get outdated software.
Why not choose for a Samsung Galaxy S? mayB they have better support for their devices (just an example).
but I hope we all get proven wrong!!

There is a reason because HTC is going to upgrade our Desires. I think HTC want to boost the htcsense.com portal and for this, new sense is required, and what hardware can use new sense? Only Desire. So it’s a way to get a lot of users without waiting the sales of Z and HD

lostfan33 said:
There is a reason because HTC is going to upgrade our Desires. I think HTC want to boost the htcsense.com portal and for this, new sense is required, and what hardware can use new sense? Only Desire. So it’s a way to get a lot of users without waiting the sales of Z and HD
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no, older phones can also support HTCSense, this can be proven as they announced that all future HTC Android devices will support HTCSense (both Entry level [eg.wildfire type] and Enterprise level [eg. Desire type]). but HTC are holding them off entry level phones as they are stingy and want us to buy more phones from them.

HTC are reviewing the locked bootloader policy

Just thought I would dive in and drop a link for anyone that is yet to comment..
And yes, it does belong in the dev section
http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
Sent from my LeeDrOID loaded Desire HD

It's good to hear - the outcome of their review of the policy will have a direct influence on my next device.

that's a good news!!!

fllash said:
It's good to hear - the outcome of their review of the policy will have a direct influence on my next device.
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Same here.

fllash said:
It's good to hear - the outcome of their review of the policy will have a direct influence on my next device.
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Same here. I was sold on the HTC Sensation but then heard that they locked it down like Fort Knox.
Going to the HTC event in Toronto on May 30th, see what the reps there have to say about this (probably nothing, but worth a try).

Great news indeed. Really hope they listen to their fans. As everyone else has said this will influence what phone I get next.

hope they will make the next nexus android phone ice-cream sandwiches

Sounds like something Motorola would say. Motorola actually said they would unlock the whole range ( carrier dependant) in late 2011 we'll have to see.
Did htc say they'd do anything like that? Hmm big load-a-stalling.
Desire is the source of all suffering.

wow probs to htc they listen to customers

Who would've thought...

Nice to hear these good news, last scepsis is gone looking forward to the Sensation! Great!
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fllash said:
It's good to hear - the outcome of their review of the policy will have a direct influence on my next device.
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It will certainly give me more options if the policy changes.
Being rootable is paramount.

I have to see it first to believe it. In my opinion HTC does not listen to customers. Based on the past when they would release very buggy firmware (eg touch pro 2 and hd2) and did not solve it. Custom roms were the only thing that made the devices great.
So after 4 HTC devices, my next one will be the Galaxy S 2.
Also, we what are their motives for doing it in the first place?
-Operators who don't like tethering, so won't sell their devices when it's possible to root?
-Don't like it when new sense versions are being ported to old devices?
-Thinking that locking everything down will sell them more devices?

I really hope this is not a marketing trick.... I'd really like future HTC phones to have unlock bootloaders we all know (maybe HTC too) that the roms our chefs make are by far better than the stock ones
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I won't believe this till i see it.

Nice gesture, this facebook message. Lets hope they mean what the say in it.

The problem is that htc don't sell only hardware..They want sell Htc Sense
They do not want allow to flash an other rom on their devices
Htc Sense is great in my opinion, but I dont understand why they want force to use that..If really they will allow this, will be a great step for htc

andQlimax said:
The problem is that htc don't sell only hardware..They want sell Htc Sense
They do not want allow to flash an other rom on their devices
Htc Sense is great in my opinion, but I dont understand why they want force to use that..If really they will allow this, will be a great step for htc
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So you are saying that HTC is following the apple route? Don't forget that apple has allowed other OSes on their machines
We might be lucky
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The problem is that htc don't sell only hardware..They want sell Htc Sense
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Even though HTC's hardware is not always cutting edge, its generally well built and I like this.
I don't use HTC sense, but I would still buy a HTC handset if I could root it, just because I know what I am getting.

rootSU said:
Even though HTC's hardware is not always cutting edge, its generally well built and I like this.
I don't use HTC sense, but I would still buy a HTC handset if I could root it, just because I know what I am getting.
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If was not clear, I agree with you

8S or Desire X?

I now have a galaxy mini, but it is far too basic. So, I have decided to buy a new phone. I dont know should I choose the 8S or the Desire X? I am a big fan of HTC, so please dont offer me galaxies and xperias as alternatives, I just wish to know which of these is better. Also, do you think the Desire X will get Jellybean?
Thanks in advance!:fingers-crossed:

Now I have Desire X and next week I will also get 8S. Then I can make comparison and recommendation for you.
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trizzo said:
Now I have Desire X and next week I will also get 8S. Then I can make comparison and recommendation for you.
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Thanks! Very much appreciated!

superiska123 said:
Thanks! Very much appreciated!
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So, yesterday my device finally arrived. To be honest... It's shock... In my case - positive one. Device and environment is extremely fast and responsive. You have everything on one place, except several google services of course. It's too early to make any summary or verdict, but the first impression is... WOW. If you would like to test something completely new, and you accept limited amount of apps in markeplace, then go for it. For some users, move from "open" Android to WP8 could be dissapointing due to limited options for customizing and mentioned very limited amount of applications available. Even though, most popular social sites (Twitter, Facebook, Linkedin) are already built-in to the system itself.
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i have tried both phones for about a week, and the 8s seemed to perform much better. as the above poster said your options are slimmed down but there (most likely) in the future be more custom options and other things.

HTC One X won’t receive any further updates

So guys finally its official:
HTC OneX and OneX + will not receive any further updates.
Its officially announced by HTC now.
"We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences. -HTC"
Update: the only HTC One X variant that will be updated to Android 4.3 is the HTC EVO 4G LTE on Sprint.
Further Reading:
http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/htc-one-x-and-x-wont-receive-updates-beyond-android-4-2-2/
Share your thoughts on this freely..

http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/01/13/htc-one-x-updates
The guys at pocketnow mentioned it too. Kinda sad but I don't care that much as I would use CM11 instead of the Sense KitKat anyways.
But this just confirmed what I expected and so this will definitely be my last HTC device. Too bad I liked the build quality.
Nexus 5 here I come <3
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Well. Its a quad core it could not handle android 4.4. Wait cm is running great. Well they would need a big team to update to kk. Wait thomy updated to cm kk all by himself.
All these just proves that htc did not learn anything. thought they could be it you know the company that cares trying to give out the best for the lowest price and keep it updated as long as possible. Instead they are just like everybody else.
My dad bought a samsung tv today. It could not run the youtube app no matter what. I called samsung and they said it is not a problem from their side but from the developers of the app. Ok so f off and tnx for false advertisement (for 2 months). Then the wifi would not work. Called them again they said if it isnt 5m from the router (visual distance) it wont work. Which actually means hey you have a really crappy wifi chip so thats how we protect ourselves so we dont need to replace it.
Dont know where im going with it? I think that if we dont stand up to the industry and demand changes like i dont know a htc xda program for example or everyone slaps ceo of samsung for everytime youtube wont start, we are going to end up in a ditch from where we will not be able to come out. For christ sake i cant even connect a htc phone to a samsung tv anymore. And that should be normal???
Sorry bad day big rant but i am worried.
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and313 said:
Well. Its a quad core it could not handle android 4.4. Wait cm is running great. Well they would need a big team to update to kk. Wait thomy updated to cm kk all by himself.
All these just proves that htc did not learn anything. thought they could be it you know the company that cares trying to give out the best for the lowest price and keep it updated as long as possible. Instead they are just like everybody else.
My dad bought a samsung tv today. It could not run the youtube app no matter what. I called samsung and they said it is not a problem from their side but from the developers of the app. Ok so f off and tnx for false advertisement (for 2 months). Then the wifi would not work. Called them again they said if it isnt 5m from the router (visual distance) it wont work. Which actually means hey you have a really crappy wifi chip so thats how we protect ourselves so we dont need to replace it.
Dont know where im going with it? I think that if we dont stand up to the industry and demand changes like i dont know a htc xda program for example or everyone slaps ceo of samsung for everytime youtube wont start, we are going to end up in a ditch from where we will not be able to come out. For christ sake i cant even connect a htc phone to a samsung tv anymore. And that should be normal???
Sorry bad day big rant but i am worried.
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f#cking nvidia doesn't support it anymore...htc would update...the htc evo 4g lte is getting it...strange that the xl won't get it even when it has the snapdragon but hm...will still try to get htc one ...or even the one+/one²

One-X-master said:
f#cking nvidia doesn't support it anymore...htc would update...the htc evo 4g lte is getting it...strange that the xl won't get it even when it has the snapdragon but hm...will still try to get htc one ...or even the one+/one²
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Then why thomy can update to kk and htc cant? I know there is a lot of paperwork and everything else (nvidias bull****) but... Common
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and313 said:
Then why thomy can update to kk and htc cant? I know there is a lot of paperwork and everything else (nvidias bull****) but... Common
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the OEM will only update if the SoC manufacturer is updaeting and still supporting the SoC...so because nvidia won't update our kernel htc wouldn't update too ...and to fix most issues we need newer kernel from them,..atleast 3.4.x so that really ALL will work fine with sense and even without...really bulls'it

One-X-master said:
the OEM will only update if the SoC manufacturer is updaeting and still supporting the SoC...so because nvidia won't update our kernel htc wouldn't update too ...and to fix most issues we need newer kernel from them,..atleast 3.4.x so that really ALL will work fine with sense and even without...really bulls'it
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If so then the tegra nexus 7 wont get 4.4.2 either? It is still on 3.1 kernel
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and313 said:
If so then the tegra nexus 7 wont get 4.4.2 either? It is still on 3.1 kernel
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don't know it's a nexus for htc it will be too much work i think if they use old kernel...ah i don't know...really sad...but look at the one...it got so many updates ...htc is now changing with the new One series their way of updating and support

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don't know it's a nexus for htc it will be too much work i think if they use old kernel...ah i don't know...really sad...but look at the one...it got so many updates ...htc is now changing with the new One series their way of updating and support
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Well i thought you knew if someone can enlighten me with that i would be thankful. Yeah it is getting updates just like our hox did until the one came out so we will see what will happen
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and313 said:
Well i thought you knew if someone can enlighten me with that i would be thankful. Yeah it is getting updates just like our hox did until the one came out so we will see what will happen
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But i really think it has to do with nvidia tegra...
And the one already got nearly more and faster updates...the snapdragon is just good supported...but yea we will see
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Its a hard lesson learnt, only buy Qualcomm based chipset phones from now on. nVidia gives fancy names to their chipsets, however they are pathetic when it comes to supporting their chipset.

I think it has to do with HTC also.. Dont blame just nvidia. if HTC wanted they could have updated the phone as fas as i know. Thomy's ROM is working fine on hox and so does slimkat. Why don't HTC discuss it out with nvidia and both could have worked hard to give an update.
But see they both (HTC and nvidia) dont give support to old devices and try to work hard on throwing new devices every then and now. If they would have worked that hard (or even less than that) on giving support to hox, it might be a good decision..
Hox is a solid performing device which HTC d#tched early..
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I bought this device to HTC, not to Nvidia. It is HTC responsability to update it.
Google nexus 7 has the same tegra3, and is perfectly working with kit kat.
First months, HTC also gives lots of updates to the oneX, saying they had changed its updating politic. Now, they said this. To bad, HTC. This is my 5th device, and I cant give you anoother chance anymore. I love all of my HTC phones, but this is my last one.

racatapum said:
I bought this device to HTC, not to Nvidia. It is HTC responsability to update it.
Google nexus 7 has the same tegra3, and is perfectly working with kit kat.
First months, HTC also gives lots of updates to the oneX, saying they had changed its updating politic. Now, they said this. To bad, HTC. This is my 5th device, and I cant give you anoother chance anymore. I love all of my HTC phones, but this is my last one.
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat. The only thing HTC currently needs is more money to provide support to older devices...
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athulele said:
But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat. The only thing HTC currently needs is more money to provide support to older devices...
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The only giveaway on how htc will handle updates is when the new phone comes out. Our hox was perfectly supported till the one came out dont you remember?
And thomy did the update to kk all by himself so i dont think money is the problem here.
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and313 said:
The only giveaway on how htc will handle updates is when the new phone comes out. Our hox was perfectly supported till the one came out dont you remember?
And thomy did the update to kk all by himself so i dont think money is the problem here.
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Yeah, htc is just shifting it's focus from one device to another...
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat.
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It's not enough to look good for the first year until the next device comes out and then suddenly drop almost all support. What happened with the Desire models, Sensation models and now HOX models will also happen to the One when the next "flagship" is announced.
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They sure as hell aren't getting that money from me.

I see a main cause that HTC decided to not update our phone anymore in the fact that 90% of the users of a phone are just the basic users, who just leave everything on their phone as it was delivered. Only thing I see my friends changing on their Android phones are the wallpaper and their app shortcuts. Some of them change their widgets, some don't. And out of my whole circle of friends I am the only one who knows what a custom ROM is and what the most up to date Android version is. So why should HTC Update our device any further if the only people really concerning about these updates are "those geeks over at xda developers". If things were the other way around and 90% of the HOX owners around the world would trample HTCs HQ for not updating our phone and would take the same step as me and were not going to buy any other HTC phone anymore they would sure as hell update it to KK.
But as people dont do so, why should they update it.

The thing is that old versions of Android also mean more security concerns and possible app compatability issues in the future. Things like this are a concern for the average user and not so much us who know how to tinker with custom roms.
And my friends who have Android phones and who I'd call average users complain about lack of upgrades just as much as me. They still want their phones to have the newest features, up to date looks and all that. HTC being so horrible with updates means that people recognize then as a company with lack of support. And people don't pay hundreds of dollars/euros for just more than one years worth of support.

Bl4ckX said:
I see a main cause that HTC decided to not update our phone anymore in the fact that 90% of the users of a phone are just the basic users, who just leave everything on their phone as it was delivered. Only thing I see my friends changing on their Android phones are the wallpaper and their app shortcuts. Some of them change their widgets, some don't. And out of my whole circle of friends I am the only one who knows what a custom ROM is and what the most up to date Android version is. So why should HTC Update our device any further if the only people really concerning about these updates are "those geeks over at xda developers". If things were the other way around and 90% of the HOX owners around the world would trample HTCs HQ for not updating our phone and would take the same step as me and were not going to buy any other HTC phone anymore they would sure as hell update it to KK.
But as people dont do so, why should they update it.
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It's not like that. You don't see Samsung or Motorola not updating their old devices just because 90% of the users don't complain.
Samsung is going to update S3 to kitkat. and motorola has already confirmed that old devices are receiving kitkat. those devices don't even have large user base like that of HOX.
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It's not enough to look good for the first year until the next device comes out and then suddenly drop almost all support. What happened with the Desire models, Sensation models and now HOX models will also happen to the One when the next "flagship" is announced.
They sure as hell aren't getting that money from me.
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Let's wait and see what happens to the One after its successor in announced.