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Official Froyo for HTC Desire possibly in the beginning of August

Hi @ all
I know it wont be a 100% reliable news but I thought it would interest some of you.
A friend of mine ordered a HTC Desire at Sunrise (Swiss Operator). She was told that the delivery will be postponed to the beginning of August due to the fact that the device will be delivered with version 2.2 of Android aka Froyo.
That would mean that we could possibly get the official Froyo by the end of July for unbranded devices.
Hope the staff at Sunrise is reliable and the info is right!!!
We will know more in about one month.
Sorry if the news has already been posted before.
Sinerely,
Ascenca

Interesting

Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas

ohyeahar said:
Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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Thanks für your reply.
I am aware of the shortage of AMOLED displays and the recent PR statement of HTC. I dont pretend my info is right, only wanted to share what I heard. Nevertheless I think August could be possible. The PR guy said that all newer devices (Desire, Legend, etc.) will get Froyo by Christmas. The HTC Desire being their top end device at the moment in Europe I assume it will get the update first. And I am quite sure that they wont provide the update to all devices at the same time. So lets hope for it to be true .
Ascenca

ohyeahar said:
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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There's no timetable there at all - it just says that they'll be finished with Froyo updates before Xmas. Well, August is before Xmas, as is September, October, November and most of December!
What we do know is that HTC have gone on record to say that they are expecting the first updates to roll out in Q3, but we don't know which devices will get it first.
Regards,
Dave

http://phandroid.com/2010/07/06/htc-to-complete-android-2-2-roll-out-by-christmas/
Lets hope it's true and the Desire gets 2.2 in August before the other phones, but i must admit that 2.1 is great and i have no issues with it so am happy to wait whenever it comes out.

It takes time to port all of our applications over to Froyo and then make sure that it is running well on each of our devices. That’s not like a one week kind of project. We need to make sure that our applications are taking advantage of the Froyo features. To make sure that they’re all running properly on the OS now that it’s a new version. And then to make sure that it’s running on our hardware as well as we expect. I would believe that we would be done with our Froyo updates before Christmas.
This was an intervjue with Eric Lin HTC PR dude
Source http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/34139/htc-froyo-update-delays-explained

That's no good. I'm going on holidays at the beginning of August lol
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It seems alot of the replies in this thread don't take into account the fact that a HTC 2.2 test rom with sense has already been leaked to certain people and was mostly working. So HTC are pretty far along in development already.

Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?

SperVaxjo said:
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca

Ascenca83 said:
I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca
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Yes thats probably the reason. But it might make people not buying the Desire also and go for another brand like Samsung Galaxy S or even the Iphone 4 =P
Oh well, Im glad we have the Devs who get froyo roms out =)

Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.

Man, hope this better be true.
Sorry to sound so retardly geeky but it's been such a deep sadness for not being able to use the sdcard for applications. I'm sure you dudes feel the same!
Sent from my HTC Desire

jastonas said:
Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.
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About video recording not working: http://androidheadlines.com/2010/07/android-2-2-is-now-on-the-htc-desire-it-too-can-now-do-720p.html
Looks pretty functional to me

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Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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The only thing they have said is that they will be done BEFORE Christmas, that could be any time not precisely Christmas, it just gives them a window to allow for things to go wrong.

Another hint the update is not far of (statement from Eric Lin, global PR and online community Manager of HTC):
"I don't think you're going to see that really long six month, seven month lag, like you saw in the updates from 1.5 to 2.1, simply because it's a less severe change. Switching from 2.1 to 2.2, they made a lot of tweaks, but they didn't make any gigantic changes, so it should be a much swifter process".
Source: the::unwierd
Ascenca

[Q] Sensation or DHD

Hi All,
I have the chance to get a Sensation tomorrow for free
I currently use the DHD and think the phone is awesome. Has anyone here had experience with both? I just wondered if the Sensation actually compares to the DHD or if it has any problems etc.
The main thing I can see immediately is the Sensation still doesn't have full root where as my DHD has boot unlocked and full root access so I swap my roms around quite often. Hopefully this will come soon to the sensation.
Anyway, if people who have already defected or played with both could let me know whether I'll feel impressed if I do get the Sensation please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks!

never mind,... only searched the DHD forums... just found this on the sensation forums.
same question sorry!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170169

I think you should go for sensation as i dont think its gonna take too long for the developers on xda to root it. hope for the best

Moreover its better to have latest hardware to be future proof as the mobile hardware is improving drastically with cellphones having dual core processors and 1gb ram

For free? Seriously? Then why you're still asking this question? Just go for it already. You're the 2nd person i've met who gets sensation for free.
Dammit you're so lucky.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

guliavikas47 said:
I think you should go for sensation as i dont think its gonna take too long for the developers on xda to root it. hope for the best
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Won't be necessary. Htc have announced they will be unlocking the Sensation bootloader via ota in August. The phone is already rootable for those who were light enough to get themselves an unlocked engineering phone.
Sent from my Cyanogenmod 7 phone.

For free then yes, as said when bootloader is unlocked devs will support it just think of it as a faster bigger brother to the DHD.
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Thanks for the replies everyone even though this is a double post
Sounds fairly unanimous to me, guess I'll have to pick it up

sensation definitely

I wouldn't go for the Sensation just yet, because I don't see any direct benefits from it, except for the higher resolution screen and the dual-core CPU. It is even a downgrade in some terms, since it's flash memory is smaller than DHD's. 1080p recording isn't a big of a deal, since the camera quality is just as bad as with all the other HTC devices. If you are after the fancy Sense 3.0 stuff, you can have it on your DHD with custom ROMs already. Plus, the high res is relatively new and there are still apps on the market you will have issues with. Thus, I would wait (and I will ) for the next flagship device, when the high res stuff is well established and there are no compatibility issues etc.
BUT, if you can get it for free and can live without root for some time, it's a different story, of course. Since its value is higher than that of DHD, I would probably go for it, but only to sell it later and get the next, proper flagship device

Funnily enough svyat that was my initial thought on the matter but you seem fairly certain this won't be HTC's flagship device. I don't really follow this stuff as much as I used to, do you know something I don't?? Do HTC have something else hidden away that they are going to sneak out anytime soon?
Cheers.

Called the htc holiday
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Flagship phones only remain so for around 6 months, so continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile. If your Sensation is 'free' on a new 18/24 month contract, I'd be inclined to wait and see what HTC announce in the next couple of months...

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you seem fairly certain this won't be HTC's flagship device.
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It definitely is their current flagship device.
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do you know something I don't??
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Not really, but eventually there will be another flagship device anyway.
mattmiller said:
Called the htc holiday
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This could well be it
mjt said:
Flagship phones only remain so for around 6 months
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True
mjt said:
continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile
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Wrong. I need to have the best flagship device at all times

svyat said:
I wouldn't go for the Sensation just yet, because I don't see any direct benefits from it, except for the higher resolution screen and the dual-core CPU. It is even a downgrade in some terms, since it's flash memory is smaller than DHD's. 1080p recording isn't a big of a deal, since the camera quality is just as bad as with all the other HTC devices. If you are after the fancy Sense 3.0 stuff, you can have it on your DHD with custom ROMs already. Plus, the high res is relatively new and there are still apps on the market you will have issues with. Thus, I would wait (and I will ) for the next flagship device, when the high res stuff is well established and there are no compatibility issues etc.
BUT, if you can get it for free and can live without root for some time, it's a different story, of course. Since its value is higher than that of DHD, I would probably go for it, but only to sell it later and get the next, proper flagship device
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+1. My criteria for a device is a) Android, b) good spec, c) "supported" by xda-developers
For the last point, read ROMs and the knowledge base.
All the same, if anyone wants to give me a Sensation, I won't refuse

Well... ok, maybe I should qualify my statement.
Continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile if you haven't got pocket-loads of disposable income. If you have, then go for it....
Since getting married and having children, such care-free days of unbridled tech-spending are long gone....

senstation is faster

sensation in better

Listen it's already confirmed Att will be releasing the htc holiday across the seas. It's estimated the name here in the us would be the Inspire HD. Jus like the mytouch series and the vibrant series. This phone is expected to be packed and quad core probably with the latest dual core chipset by the time it's released, be the best an latest. Wait till the htc holiday, it will be out this year around the 4th quarter of the year.
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mjt said:
Well... ok, maybe I should qualify my statement.
Continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile if you haven't got pocket-loads of disposable income. If you have, then go for it....
Since getting married and having children, such care-free days of unbridled tech-spending are long gone....
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You can also sell your current device and use the proceeds to buy the next best thing.

Something worth worrying about regarding the One X

Edit: its been reported that at&t is indeed blocking the unlock for their version of this device.
The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.
We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.
We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.
EDIT: Willyami found this, I'm happy to hear temp-root is already achieved. Yet the article still states we need bootloader unlock or S OFF for perm root...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/

http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.

slapshot30 said:
The release of the One X has us all very excited, and there is much reason to be excited. Yet, I feel like many people don't really understand some of the issues we may be up against. Let's take into account some recent HTC phones that came out. Let's look at the Vivid and Rezound. Both of these devices did not have the option to unlock the bootloader until months after. In fact, HTC was not even planning on talking about releasing the unlock until 6 months or later after initial release of the device. We started petitions, spammed the twitters and facebooks of AT&T/Verizon and HTC. It was amazing how each just blamed eachother for the locked bootloaders. Keep in mind this was AFTER the CEO of HTC promised no more locked bootloaders. Samsung does not ship locked bootloaders either. After a few months of begging and pleading, we eventually got official HTC dev unlock. But by that time, most the devs and community were gone.
We had a few teams working very hard on cracking the Vivid/Rezound but to no avail. Apparently HTC upped their game compared to past devices, and to this day we still don't even have unofficial bootloader unlock, s off, sim unlock, etc. On AT&T, the Vivid was one of the best spec'd devices, if not the best, out at the time. Yet, due to the actions of HTC/AT&T, the development was absolutely screwed. At this point in time we have only three or four devs with ROMs, no doubt we would have had tons more if not for the locked bootloader issues.
We need to talk with HTC before the release of this device to make sure the One X doesn't get screwed as bad as the Vivid did. You guys don't know how much it sucks to wait months and months to even put a custom ROM on your phone. We need to hold HTC to their promise. Sure, we can rely on unofficial methods, but then there's always that "what if" factor if nothing happens there.
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Absolutely agree with you dude. As a result of so few devs over there, I still haven't unlocked and rooted my Vivid.
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i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.

uranis said:
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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Yeah, maybe for you. But this is a development site. we're here to develop and make the device as badass as possible. The phone will be enjoyed for sure. but enjoyed more with it rooted Running a CoreDroid Rom

uranis said:
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.

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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/htc-one-x-gets-rooted-before-retail-debut/
The One X is already rooted by Modaco. So I do believe this wont be such a problem to One X.
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Damn, nice find. I still wonder how HTC will do with the official unlock though. They are really laggy when it comes to releasing code too.
uranis said:
i think people need to enjoy the phone a bit more, than thinking about custom roms and such. That's certainly not why im buying the phone, nor is it in the discussion. Maybe months or a year i would be open to it, but right now i can see myself enjoying it stock. Especially with ICS on board.
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lol easier to talk the talk than walk the walk. I had the same mindset you did, but two/three months of the same old thing and same old sense really sucked. Try it if you don't believe me.

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I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
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Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.

Unfortunately, that is only temp root. It is not a permanent root solution. This link is the exact method described in the article and its from this forums dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562470
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uranis said:
Yea it's your choice, but the phone isn't even out yet. I just don't understand buying a phone because of what rom you could possibly get on it. Just my opinion.
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A HUGE factor that goes into what phone I buy is how big the potential is for development. I think that's a pretty common thing to look for for most XDA'ers.

420kushking said:
I think a majority of the people here would agree, the ability to customize your phone beyond what the manufacturer intended is your right as a consumer....you bought the phone...right.... also I might add, a majority of the people on this website are here for rooting information and custom roms.... it is after all, a development based forum. I think this thread should be closed though, because its been noted above that the one x has been rooted.
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That's temp root, not perm root. The article states we still need S OFF or htcdev unlock for perm root.

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A HUGE factor that goes into what phone I buy is how big the potential is for development. I think that's a pretty common thing to look for for most XDA'ers.
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Yeah that's what I look for. I was lucky for getting a captivate a while back, it was my first android device and I loved doing the customization. I'll be happy with this phone but I'm really looking forward to the development.

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Damn, nice find. I still wonder how HTC will do with the official unlock though. They are really laggy when it comes to releasing code too.
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HTC have already released the source code to the Sensation ICS kernel, and it's not even properly rolled out yet. Doesn't seem laggy to me

Calm down dude!
HTC learned the hard lesson of Sensation/sgs2.
They losed 3 months of potential buyers (and that made the whole difference in sales volume) because they locked the bootloader.
sgs2 won because it was unlocked and rooted easily.
The HTC One X is already rooted thanks to Modaco, so no need to worry at all, also Mike did a custom rom already,there are many Sensation devs switching to One X...

Another pro argument might be that this will be a real flagship device. As we all know, htc released much too many phones in 2011 (close to 50 I heard in an xda-tv episode ) and they realized the problems that come with such an approach.
The vivid or the rezound might just have been skipped by most devs, some of the better are even still on the 2 year old HD2.
I really hope that this will be the next HD2, it's got all the potential to be the next best phone ever.

I believe that HTC are changing and learning. If you see the communications between them and XDA over the last year, if you see the HTCDev site, if you see the list of ICS updates, if you see the API's they are releasing, etc.
If you look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCXgL7MDsIc Jeff clearly says it will be unlocked.
Also I agree with their reasoning for locking the boot loader, and as long as they release the unlock tool I think its a good process to ensure only those who know and accept the consequences will use it.
PS. Also the HTC One X is not tied to a partner so it should give HTC full control of what they do with it. Were as the HTC One XL is tied to AT&T so it may mean for that device its more complicated a process to get AT&T to agree to unlock the boot loader.

The "One" series must have been made for something, didn't they say they are trying to make their phones more recognisable too? In that case, it makes perfect sense to not release 50 phones a year (or one every week), as that really tarnishes the brand

i've never unlocked a phone on htcdev, but it has a generic unlock option.
you have to submit an identifier token you can query with fastboot, and you are getting a unlock binary sent by email which you can flash with fastboot to unlock the phone. if the hboot of the phone supports this.
seems very generic to me, and i guess you can already unlock a htc-one device using this method

Edit: Ops! I am wrong... please see later posts! Sorry blubbers!

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Calm down dude!
HTC learned the hard lesson of Sensation/sgs2.
They losed 3 months of potential buyers (and that made the whole difference in sales volume) because they locked the bootloader.
sgs2 won because it was unlocked and rooted easily.
The HTC One X is already rooted thanks to Modaco, so no need to worry at all, also Mike did a custom rom already,there are many Sensation devs switching to One X...
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A custom rom means nothing. Did you even read the article or my post?? It says you still need s off or bootloader unlock for permanent root. Modaco only found temp root.
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Revolutionary for One X?

Anyone know whether it's possible or if it's in the works and whether it's worth the wait to see if it is? voiding warranty isn't something i want to do on one X, and with revolutionary i can revert it

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Anyone know whether it's possible or if it's in the works and whether it's worth the wait to see if it is? voiding warranty isn't something i want to do on one X, and with revolutionary i can revert it
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I'm pretty sure some devs are trying to do this, it's just a matter of time . I'd say it's worth waiting for, there aren't many roms at this moment anyway. Not even a AOSP rom yet!

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I'm pretty sure some devs are trying to do this, it's just a matter of time . I'd say it's worth waiting for, there aren't many roms at this moment anyway. Not even a AOSP rom yet!
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Yeah fair point, only reason i'm asking is because HTC Desire HD never got it.
I only need root right now to get rid of the menu button on screen

Sebianoti said:
Yeah fair point, only reason i'm asking is because HTC Desire HD never got it.
I only need root right now to get rid of the menu button on screen
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Well Desire HD was never a real flagship device (HTC Desire was and that one got rooted).
HTC One X is a flagship so you can be pretty sure a lot of devs will focus on this one!

H-Cim said:
Well Desire HD was never a real flagship device (HTC Desire was and that one got rooted).
HTC One X is a flagship so you can be pretty sure a lot of devs will focus on this one!
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Sure hope so,

HTC One X won’t receive any further updates

So guys finally its official:
HTC OneX and OneX + will not receive any further updates.
Its officially announced by HTC now.
"We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences. -HTC"
Update: the only HTC One X variant that will be updated to Android 4.3 is the HTC EVO 4G LTE on Sprint.
Further Reading:
http://androidandme.com/2014/01/news/htc-one-x-and-x-wont-receive-updates-beyond-android-4-2-2/
Share your thoughts on this freely..

http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/01/13/htc-one-x-updates
The guys at pocketnow mentioned it too. Kinda sad but I don't care that much as I would use CM11 instead of the Sense KitKat anyways.
But this just confirmed what I expected and so this will definitely be my last HTC device. Too bad I liked the build quality.
Nexus 5 here I come <3
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Well. Its a quad core it could not handle android 4.4. Wait cm is running great. Well they would need a big team to update to kk. Wait thomy updated to cm kk all by himself.
All these just proves that htc did not learn anything. thought they could be it you know the company that cares trying to give out the best for the lowest price and keep it updated as long as possible. Instead they are just like everybody else.
My dad bought a samsung tv today. It could not run the youtube app no matter what. I called samsung and they said it is not a problem from their side but from the developers of the app. Ok so f off and tnx for false advertisement (for 2 months). Then the wifi would not work. Called them again they said if it isnt 5m from the router (visual distance) it wont work. Which actually means hey you have a really crappy wifi chip so thats how we protect ourselves so we dont need to replace it.
Dont know where im going with it? I think that if we dont stand up to the industry and demand changes like i dont know a htc xda program for example or everyone slaps ceo of samsung for everytime youtube wont start, we are going to end up in a ditch from where we will not be able to come out. For christ sake i cant even connect a htc phone to a samsung tv anymore. And that should be normal???
Sorry bad day big rant but i am worried.
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Well. Its a quad core it could not handle android 4.4. Wait cm is running great. Well they would need a big team to update to kk. Wait thomy updated to cm kk all by himself.
All these just proves that htc did not learn anything. thought they could be it you know the company that cares trying to give out the best for the lowest price and keep it updated as long as possible. Instead they are just like everybody else.
My dad bought a samsung tv today. It could not run the youtube app no matter what. I called samsung and they said it is not a problem from their side but from the developers of the app. Ok so f off and tnx for false advertisement (for 2 months). Then the wifi would not work. Called them again they said if it isnt 5m from the router (visual distance) it wont work. Which actually means hey you have a really crappy wifi chip so thats how we protect ourselves so we dont need to replace it.
Dont know where im going with it? I think that if we dont stand up to the industry and demand changes like i dont know a htc xda program for example or everyone slaps ceo of samsung for everytime youtube wont start, we are going to end up in a ditch from where we will not be able to come out. For christ sake i cant even connect a htc phone to a samsung tv anymore. And that should be normal???
Sorry bad day big rant but i am worried.
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f#cking nvidia doesn't support it anymore...htc would update...the htc evo 4g lte is getting it...strange that the xl won't get it even when it has the snapdragon but hm...will still try to get htc one ...or even the one+/one²

One-X-master said:
f#cking nvidia doesn't support it anymore...htc would update...the htc evo 4g lte is getting it...strange that the xl won't get it even when it has the snapdragon but hm...will still try to get htc one ...or even the one+/one²
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Then why thomy can update to kk and htc cant? I know there is a lot of paperwork and everything else (nvidias bull****) but... Common
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Then why thomy can update to kk and htc cant? I know there is a lot of paperwork and everything else (nvidias bull****) but... Common
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the OEM will only update if the SoC manufacturer is updaeting and still supporting the SoC...so because nvidia won't update our kernel htc wouldn't update too ...and to fix most issues we need newer kernel from them,..atleast 3.4.x so that really ALL will work fine with sense and even without...really bulls'it

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the OEM will only update if the SoC manufacturer is updaeting and still supporting the SoC...so because nvidia won't update our kernel htc wouldn't update too ...and to fix most issues we need newer kernel from them,..atleast 3.4.x so that really ALL will work fine with sense and even without...really bulls'it
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If so then the tegra nexus 7 wont get 4.4.2 either? It is still on 3.1 kernel
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If so then the tegra nexus 7 wont get 4.4.2 either? It is still on 3.1 kernel
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don't know it's a nexus for htc it will be too much work i think if they use old kernel...ah i don't know...really sad...but look at the one...it got so many updates ...htc is now changing with the new One series their way of updating and support

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don't know it's a nexus for htc it will be too much work i think if they use old kernel...ah i don't know...really sad...but look at the one...it got so many updates ...htc is now changing with the new One series their way of updating and support
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Well i thought you knew if someone can enlighten me with that i would be thankful. Yeah it is getting updates just like our hox did until the one came out so we will see what will happen
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Well i thought you knew if someone can enlighten me with that i would be thankful. Yeah it is getting updates just like our hox did until the one came out so we will see what will happen
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But i really think it has to do with nvidia tegra...
And the one already got nearly more and faster updates...the snapdragon is just good supported...but yea we will see
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Its a hard lesson learnt, only buy Qualcomm based chipset phones from now on. nVidia gives fancy names to their chipsets, however they are pathetic when it comes to supporting their chipset.

I think it has to do with HTC also.. Dont blame just nvidia. if HTC wanted they could have updated the phone as fas as i know. Thomy's ROM is working fine on hox and so does slimkat. Why don't HTC discuss it out with nvidia and both could have worked hard to give an update.
But see they both (HTC and nvidia) dont give support to old devices and try to work hard on throwing new devices every then and now. If they would have worked that hard (or even less than that) on giving support to hox, it might be a good decision..
Hox is a solid performing device which HTC d#tched early..
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I bought this device to HTC, not to Nvidia. It is HTC responsability to update it.
Google nexus 7 has the same tegra3, and is perfectly working with kit kat.
First months, HTC also gives lots of updates to the oneX, saying they had changed its updating politic. Now, they said this. To bad, HTC. This is my 5th device, and I cant give you anoother chance anymore. I love all of my HTC phones, but this is my last one.

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I bought this device to HTC, not to Nvidia. It is HTC responsability to update it.
Google nexus 7 has the same tegra3, and is perfectly working with kit kat.
First months, HTC also gives lots of updates to the oneX, saying they had changed its updating politic. Now, they said this. To bad, HTC. This is my 5th device, and I cant give you anoother chance anymore. I love all of my HTC phones, but this is my last one.
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat. The only thing HTC currently needs is more money to provide support to older devices...
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat. The only thing HTC currently needs is more money to provide support to older devices...
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The only giveaway on how htc will handle updates is when the new phone comes out. Our hox was perfectly supported till the one came out dont you remember?
And thomy did the update to kk all by himself so i dont think money is the problem here.
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The only giveaway on how htc will handle updates is when the new phone comes out. Our hox was perfectly supported till the one came out dont you remember?
And thomy did the update to kk all by himself so i dont think money is the problem here.
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Yeah, htc is just shifting it's focus from one device to another...
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But on the other hand, they're really working hard to quickly update the One. It even has kitkat.
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It's not enough to look good for the first year until the next device comes out and then suddenly drop almost all support. What happened with the Desire models, Sensation models and now HOX models will also happen to the One when the next "flagship" is announced.
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They sure as hell aren't getting that money from me.

I see a main cause that HTC decided to not update our phone anymore in the fact that 90% of the users of a phone are just the basic users, who just leave everything on their phone as it was delivered. Only thing I see my friends changing on their Android phones are the wallpaper and their app shortcuts. Some of them change their widgets, some don't. And out of my whole circle of friends I am the only one who knows what a custom ROM is and what the most up to date Android version is. So why should HTC Update our device any further if the only people really concerning about these updates are "those geeks over at xda developers". If things were the other way around and 90% of the HOX owners around the world would trample HTCs HQ for not updating our phone and would take the same step as me and were not going to buy any other HTC phone anymore they would sure as hell update it to KK.
But as people dont do so, why should they update it.

The thing is that old versions of Android also mean more security concerns and possible app compatability issues in the future. Things like this are a concern for the average user and not so much us who know how to tinker with custom roms.
And my friends who have Android phones and who I'd call average users complain about lack of upgrades just as much as me. They still want their phones to have the newest features, up to date looks and all that. HTC being so horrible with updates means that people recognize then as a company with lack of support. And people don't pay hundreds of dollars/euros for just more than one years worth of support.

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I see a main cause that HTC decided to not update our phone anymore in the fact that 90% of the users of a phone are just the basic users, who just leave everything on their phone as it was delivered. Only thing I see my friends changing on their Android phones are the wallpaper and their app shortcuts. Some of them change their widgets, some don't. And out of my whole circle of friends I am the only one who knows what a custom ROM is and what the most up to date Android version is. So why should HTC Update our device any further if the only people really concerning about these updates are "those geeks over at xda developers". If things were the other way around and 90% of the HOX owners around the world would trample HTCs HQ for not updating our phone and would take the same step as me and were not going to buy any other HTC phone anymore they would sure as hell update it to KK.
But as people dont do so, why should they update it.
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It's not like that. You don't see Samsung or Motorola not updating their old devices just because 90% of the users don't complain.
Samsung is going to update S3 to kitkat. and motorola has already confirmed that old devices are receiving kitkat. those devices don't even have large user base like that of HOX.
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It's not enough to look good for the first year until the next device comes out and then suddenly drop almost all support. What happened with the Desire models, Sensation models and now HOX models will also happen to the One when the next "flagship" is announced.
They sure as hell aren't getting that money from me.
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Let's wait and see what happens to the One after its successor in announced.