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If I were to leave my phone on without using it, it would die in about 10 hours. Is this normal? It's been like this since stock. I don't think this is normal since my G2 had way better stand-by time.
Please, don't say it has something to do with your settings and stuff, because I had the same things turned on with the same apps on my G2 with way better Stand-by time. GPS and Auto-backup.
Im running bone stock. I recharged after 38 hrs. And still had a 30% chg left
These were 14 hrs after complete chg.
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Im running bone stock. I recharged after 38 hrs. And still had a 30% chg left
These were 14 hrs after complete chg.
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See? This is what I'm not getting. Even since stock my Standby time was horrible. So I rooted to get better battery life. Nothing is changing. I even did a battery calibration to see if the phone was just reading the battery wrong.
I have another question. After the phone is finished charging at 100%, as soon as I take it off the charger, it goes down to 99%. Is that normal? I thought the phone was supposed to stay charged at 100% for a little while.
I just unplugged mine from complete charge and as soon as I unplugged it went to 99. So, yes????
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See? This is what I'm not getting. Even since stock my Standby time was horrible. So I rooted to get better battery life. Nothing is changing. I even did a battery calibration to see if the phone was just reading the battery wrong.
I have another question. After the phone is finished charging at 100%, as soon as I take it off the charger, it goes down to 99%. Is that normal? I thought the phone was supposed to stay charged at 100% for a little while.
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That is normal to drop to 99% immediately. I always charge to full before I go to sleep at night and for some reason if I leave wifi on, the drain is really low when not in use...
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Ok. I have no idea what is going on, but my phone just randomly rebooted, froze and then reset my home screen replacement launcher (as if I hit set to default), and now when I went to check on the battery usage and this is what I get:
Android OS is now at about 2% along with other things.
Display is at about 50%.
This is new. Android OS used to ALWAYS be higher then display. That didn't make since.
Now things are different. It seems the display is using the most energy. That is normal. I expect that.
I don't know, but it seems that everything is back to normal. I am using the phone, so I'm expecting this battery drain, but I'll check to see how much battery is drained on stand-by when I go to work later on today.
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Ok. I have no idea what is going on, but my phone just randomly rebooted, froze and then reset my home screen replacement launcher (as if I hit set to default), and now when I went to check on the battery usage and this is what I get:
Android OS is now at about 2% along with other things.
Display is at about 50%.
This is new. Android OS used to ALWAYS be higher then display. That didn't make since.
Now things are different. It seems the display is using the most energy. That is normal. I expect that.
I don't know, but it seems that everything is back to normal. I am using the phone, so I'm expecting this battery drain, but I'll check to see how much battery is drained on stand-by when I go to work later on today.
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Let us know how it works out for you. Display should definitely be at the top if you are actually using the phone. At least it always is for me
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If you want your phone to last you throughout the day, make sure that "Use Wireless Networks" in Settings -> Location is unchecked. That is the biggest battery guzzler this phone has next to 4G and Brightness. My battery loses 2% all night til I wake up (Thats 8 Hours!!)
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If you want your phone to last you throughout the day, make sure that "Use Wireless Networks" in Settings -> Location is unchecked. That is the biggest battery guzzler this phone has next to 4G and Brightness. My battery loses 2% all night til I wake up (Thats 8 Hours!!)
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I figured it was a Samsung thing. I leave GPS off if that's what you mean, but location services stay on. That's just a me thing.
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Today after work, I lost 30% energy on standby. That's alright with me. It was about 6 hours of straight standby time. It seems to have gotten better. At times I'd lose at least half of my battery after at least 5 hours.
I don't know how the phone seemed to fix itself, but doing things doesn't just DRAIN the battery anymore. I was playing on the phone fixing my home screen launcher and my battery wasn't dying right in my face. I lost like 2% after having the screen on for about 20 minutes fixing up my settings compared to seeing 5+% in like 10 minutes.
I am satisfied.
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I figured it was a Samsung thing. I leave GPS off if that's what you mean, but location services stay on. That's just a me thing.
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Today after work, I lost 30% energy on standby. That's alright with me. It was about 6 hours of straight standby time. It seems to have gotten better. At times I'd lose at least half of my battery after at least 5 hours.
I don't know how the phone seemed to fix itself, but doing things doesn't just DRAIN the battery anymore. I was playing on the phone fixing my home screen launcher and my battery wasn't dying right in my face. I lost like 2% after having the screen on for about 20 minutes fixing up my settings compared to seeing 5+% in like 10 minutes.
I am satisfied.
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Lol, your battery didn't fix itself, that sounds like somethings wrong with the battery cycle. Maybe you need to recalibrate it.
You see, sometimes if you overcharge a phone, especially when using a charger that isn't made for that specific phone (usually a charger thats too strong) it can throw of the charge cycle. Thus, it can take like 30 minutes to drop 50% and then another 3hrs for the other 50% (this is just an example). If you're rooted, I highly recommend doing a full battery calibration.
Secondly, the Use Wireless Networks thing in the location isn't really a samsung thing, i think of it more as a google thing. I noticed that when its on, Google is always sending information back to itself, thus keeping the phone awake longer. Thats why if you go to your graph, it show that your phone is awake more often then it should be. I personally uncheck it, because if i ever need it, I just quickly switch on the gps. Then turn it off when im done.Thats my recommendation to you. Yesterday, I personally got a full 24hr usage out of my battery, and it wasn't even all that light. I texted most of the day, made a few calls, browsed the web, and listened to music for a few hours on the subway. Pretty moderate usage.
See, I'm not exactly unhappy with my battery life... but seeing what other folks around here are getting MAKES me a little unhappy.
I mean, I went to bed at... I'll say around two AM last night at 90% battery. My audio book player ran for thirty minutes after that; woke up at about eleven AM, 53%. NOTHING CLOSE to what you folks are getting. All of the big culprits I've heard mentioned have been checked out, and I just calibrated, so I dunno where else to go with this.
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See, I'm not exactly unhappy with my battery life... but seeing what other folks around here are getting MAKES me a little unhappy.
I mean, I went to bed at... I'll say around two AM last night at 90% battery. My audio book player ran for thirty minutes after that; woke up at about eleven AM, 53%. NOTHING CLOSE to what you folks are getting. All of the big culprits I've heard mentioned have been checked out, and I just calibrated, so I dunno where else to go with this.
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Make sure you turn off Use Wireless Network in the location settings. You will then be getting the battery life that I'm getting
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Make sure you turn off Use Wireless Network in the location settings. You will then be getting the battery life that I'm getting
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That one is a big mystery to me. I always leave that setting on. I also have my sync on. My stock email is set at one hour and I get very little drain. Maybe it has to do with an app that uses Wireless Network location ..
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Does anybody see anything unusual about my battery life?
My screen has basically been off, yet I'm still losing weird amounts of battery. Based on the hours, I took my phone off the charger at 4pm Dec. 04 (16:00) and it died at 6am (06:00) Dec. 05. That gap in WiFi was my time at work.
Those bars you see in display right before WiFi get's turned on is me texting and Facebooking. Apparently I wasn't using Facebook enough for it to actually get a place in my battery usage.
And of course those two little bars in the red was my phone telling me that it's dying. Too bad I was sleep.
Ignore the rise after the fall. That's it charging of course.
Also, if you notice, my WiFi apparently wasn't using anything to get a place as well. Those are all the apps that were listed. Why isn't WiFi there?
I calibrated my battery twice already. I can calibrated it again since it fully died. Let me make sure I understand how to calibrate it.
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Kernel: LoS Kernel
1) Phone charged to 100%
2) Phone dies
3) Charge phone to 100%
4) CWM and wipe battery stats
That's what I do to calibrate it.
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Does anybody see anything unusual about my battery life?
My screen has basically been off, yet I'm still losing weird amounts of battery. Based on the hours, I took my phone off the charger at 4pm Dec. 04 (16:00) and it died at 6am (06:00) Dec. 05. That gap in WiFi was my time at work.
Those bars you see in display right before WiFi get's turned on is me texting and Facebooking. Apparently I wasn't using Facebook enough for it to actually get a place in my battery usage.
And of course those two little bars in the red was my phone telling me that it's dying. Too bad I was sleep.
Ignore the rise after the fall. That's it charging of course.
Also, if you notice, my WiFi apparently wasn't using anything to get a place as well. Those are all the apps that were listed. Why isn't WiFi there?
I calibrated my battery twice already. I can calibrated it again since it fully died. Let me make sure I understand how to calibrate it.
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Add a 5th step which is using the battery calibration app from the market. Also, uncheck wireless networks from location settings (huge battery hog). I assume that's probably your biggest problem. Then, if you are rooted, do what I did, which is get a root explorer and go into system>apps, and move the social hub.apk and media hub.apk to a folder on your SD. It will essentially uninstall it. Those 2 apps are battery hogs as well even if you have never used them. They will always run in the background. Try those and lemme know if it helped.
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That one is a big mystery to me. I always leave that setting on. I also have my sync on. My stock email is set at one hour and I get very little drain. Maybe it has to do with an app that uses Wireless Network location ..
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Wireless network location settings is also mainly used by Google to send them data about your usage. I noticed a significant decrease in battery life whenever this is checked. I would rather just turn on my GPS whenever I need it than keep this function on at all times. Its just not worth it in my book.
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Add a 5th step which is using the battery calibration app from the market. Also, uncheck wireless networks from location settings (huge battery hog). I assume that's probably your biggest problem. Then, if you are rooted, do what I did, which is get a root explorer and go into system>apps, and move the social hub.apk and media hub.apk to a folder on your SD. It will essentially uninstall it. Those 2 apps are battery hogs as well even if you have never used them. They will always run in the background. Try those and lemme know if it helped.
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Could media hub and social hub just be frozen by using rom toolbox? Or is moving them a necessity?
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Could media hub and social hub just be frozen by using rom toolbox? Or is moving them a necessity?
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I'm not sure. But that's why I recommend moving it, so you can always reinstall it later if you need to for any reason.
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Definitely perform worse than original.
do you have any stats for us or examples? How long did you give this battery?
original battery lasted me about 15hr on moderate use. With Andida, it gave me 5 hours. Not sure what was wrong with it or my phone. I'm gonna try it out for a few more days. I paid 15 bucks for and I was expecting at least 1800mah from it though it was advertised at 2250mah, but from my experience it performed worse than I expected. Packaging was very nice, I feel like I paid $10 on the packaging quality, not the product. Also, the weight on Andida is lighter than the original one. That wasn't the case when I got Anker battery for my sensation.
So did you give it one full charge and one depletion? Also do you have pictures? The more information you have the better. Maybe even a screenshot showing the usage throughout the day comparing it to your original one.
im on my second day of conditioning. i used juice offender to drain the battery quick, charged overnight to 100, wiped stats, then juice offender on my way to work then i let it charge up all day (9 hours) wiped stats again. i just took it off the charge about an hour ago and im already at 88%. im running a stock bloat free rom without syncing ANYTHING. no background syncing apps installed. im going to give this one more day of conditioning. so far no good.
so far, the battery life is about the same. off the charge at 7am and I'm at 91 by 8am. all I did was listen to music through my headphones omw to work. stick to OEM. its good to have a spare though.
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im on my second day of conditioning. i used juice offender to drain the battery quick, charged overnight to 100, wiped stats, then juice offender on my way to work then i let it charge up all day (9 hours) wiped stats again. i just took it off the charge about an hour ago and im already at 88%. im running a stock bloat free rom without syncing ANYTHING. no background syncing apps installed. im going to give this one more day of conditioning. so far no good.
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You know that wiping stats doesn't do anything right?
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You know that wiping stats doesn't do anything right?
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elaborate.
have you used the battery calibration app to calibrate once you hit 100%?
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have you used the battery calibration app to calibrate once you hit 100%?
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i do but i flash so much that i forget that i have it in titanium backup (over 1,000 apps). i usually do all my configurations manually. correct me if im wrong but doesnt the app only wipe the battery stats and generates a 100% battery file?
*update on the andida battery: i have plume and facebook updating every 4 hours. beautiful widgets 3 hours and 2 push gmails 1 corporate push running. did 10 mins of ebaying. tracked 12 packages on ups app. 40% screen brightness and 20 minutes of calls since 7am today. with four hours past, i am down to 62% battery. i am running the latest juggernaut rom. thank god i bought an anker slimtalk 3200 mAH power bank! at this rate i would probably get about 9-10 hours off a charge. combined with the anker slimtalk, i can probably last a full day.
just got this bad boy in the mail. bye bye andida.
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Directly quoted from Google engineering Google+ page
"This file [batterystats.bin] is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings. That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
It has no impact on the current battery level shown to you. It has no impact on your battery life."
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Directly quoted from Google engineering Google+ page
"This file [batterystats.bin] is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings. That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
It has no impact on the current battery level shown to you. It has no impact on your battery life."
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ok with that being stated, what if i told you that i wipe the battery stats just to clear the battery settings ui so i can see a fresh charge/discharge? sometimes when i reboot on some custom roms, the battery stats will say ive been discharging for X amount of mins/hours when they were supposed to clear on the reboot. i also know that you can easily read the slope to figure out the charge/discharge time but i always start off fresh on everything. diane does prove her fact but you have to remember that im not flashing bug-free stock roms.
i have weather update every 1 hour, facebook every 30 min, 2 gmail push, a whole lot of tune in radio (1-2 hours), which use alot of network bandwidth screen on 100% text about 50 text, about an hour of surfing (i check stock alot)
also lock my clock rate to 1.51ghz running at all time except for when off, using beastmod latest version
from 6 in the morning till 9 at night i have about 5-10% left but then again i'm using seido lol sorry just wanna brag.
screen shots to show what i mean. i defiantly did not have my cell on over night. it took till about 11pm last night for juice offender to drain my battery. after that i skipped the battery stat wipe and charged the battery with the phone off. rebooted at about 6 this morning. just thought to check the stats and this is what i got. it appears that ive been on stand by for 11 hours when actually im at 100%. the second screen shot shows the battery after i wiped the stats. this is why i wipe my stats.
Hello all,
Am i the only one that is having problems with the battery life on the galaxy gio?
I charged the phone today at 5 in the afternoon, by 8(3 hours after) 70% of battery, charged it with the wall charger and i rebooted it when the battery was full to close all tasks.
In 3 hours without any wifi, only 1 sms received, no calls and no other tasks was executed i lost 30%.
What can i do to improve the battery?
Are you experiencing any similar problems?
Coiso said:
Hello all,
Am i the only one that is having problems with the battery life on the galaxy gio?
I charged the phone today at 5 in the afternoon, by 8(3 hours after) 70% of battery, charged it with the wall charger and i rebooted it when the battery was full to close all tasks.
In 3 hours without any wifi, only 1 sms received, no calls and no other tasks was executed i lost 30%.
What can i do to improve the battery?
Are you experiencing any similar problems?
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You can wipe battery stats, and turn things like gps wifi data autosync unused apps etc off, for some things you need root acces
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What rom you have ?
I have problems with battery life too...but because i play games. Is weird because you didn't do nothing like browsing or play games and your battery was eaten.
Try a full wipe.
Also search the market for PowerTutor, it might be able to help finding what eats your battery, as what you describe this is not normal.
If you've rooted your phone you can calibrate your battery. There's an app for this in the market. It just wipes the battery stats file and creates a new one. I've head that it is good with every rom change to calibrate the battery Hope this helps! GL!
Actually it's good to flash every new ROM when you have fully charged battery. If you fail to do this you'll have to calibrate the battery and it might not be easy to do right the first time.
SO much easier to flash having full power
Battery stats wiping
IIRC google denied that battery stats wiping would actually increase the battery life: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
I assume, you have things like WiFi, BT or GPS turned off... Then you maybe might try another launcher. Samsung's TouchWiz is quite a power eater.
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IIRC google denied that battery stats wiping would actually increase the battery life: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
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It won't increase battery life, true, but think - when you unplug the charger? When your phone says "100% charged", right? And if your battery starts are wrong the phone may say "I'm charged" when it's actually, say, 40% charged or whatever.
Wiping stats should also provide more accurate battery indicator when it gathers new stats after some usage.
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It won't increase battery life, true, but think - when you unplug the charger? When your phone says "100% charged", right? And if your battery starts are wrong the phone may say "I'm charged" when it's actually, say, 40% charged or whatever.
Wiping stats should also provide more accurate battery indicator when it gathers new stats after some usage.
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In my experience the battery indicator may work a bit odd (e.g. it goes fast to 40% then stays there for ages). But it didn't keep the battery from charging to full, even when it indicated 100% it still kept charging. But to stay in the topic, clearing the stats might help the "dropping by 30% really fast" issue
Yup, that's what I was talking about - wiping stats won't improve battery life, but might fix indicator accuracy
It could be your background applications eat too much mobile data. Check out your background applications and disable them. Stick with 2G also it improves battery life a lot
if the phone and battery are ok, and you don't have Wifi/BT/3G/EDGE/max_screen_brightness/ or high CPU usage background apps, you should get something like in the attached picture:
AT least for me CM7.2 really improved battery life up to 2 (TWO) days!
Unfortunately CM9 ruined this again and brought it back for ~8h...
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if the phone and battery are ok, and you don't have Wifi/BT/3G/EDGE/max_screen_brightness/ or high CPU usage background apps, you should get something like in the attached picture:
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The z stands for days??
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The z stands for days??
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Yes, is romanian language
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Yes, is romanian language
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Oh ok..
Z means day, sounds logically.
In dutch we call it 'dag'
Thats kinda good battery life, but also without nearly using your phone
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You can use CM 7.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381355
It is stable and saves battery better than stock rom.
Another thing to check is that Wifi is set to disable when the screen turns off or when plugged in... If not, you can loose 50% battery life in 6 hours. (Which i did once. NOT FUN.)
As well, apps that sync in the background. Ie, mail checking your inbox every hour for new mail; facebook, twitter, myspace checking for new notifications every hour; leaving apps using GPS running in the background like Navigation, My Tracks, etc. Those sorts of things can drain a battery really quickly, beacuse it has to wake up the phone, get the phone to get the required data over the cellular network then go back to sleep again, instead of just letting the phone sleep.
Another thing you can do is to make sure you kill apps. IE, don't use the home button to exit the app, use the back button. That will kill the app instead of leaving it running in the background.
Its kinda funny, this is all stuff people have mentioned already, but it seriously can be the difference between a half a day and a whole day on a battery...
I've had this phone for about a month. Started off on stock, and rooted it and flashed different ROMs and kernels. I never really got good battery life with any ROM. Typically I would get around 7 to 10 hours of moderate usage.
I fully went back to stock firmware and kernel using ODIN, to flash 2.3.6. I rooted it and removed some bloatware apps. BUT, the battery life seems so bad.. it's been 2 days, I've done calibration 2 or 3 times.
Leaving my phone idle, in one spot, I lose about 4-5% an hour. 4G Data on, wifi off, 2/4 bars of signal, sync on (only gmail, google docs, contacts, calendar).
But today, I think it got worse, as shown here: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-230121.png
Graph: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-230126.png
Note: the data icon on top shows that it's on 3G, because I moved out of good signal area when I took the screenshots. The phone was idle in a spot with 4G getting 3-5mbps.
What's wrong with this? The phone is a month old, so I don't think it's a battery problem. I've calibrated 2-3 times since I went back to stock.
Also, don't recommend me to use Juice Defender. I use Google Voice to call and text, so I need data on all the time. And I know this phone can last over a day with data on (my friend has the same phone and it has lasted 2 days on one charge, completely stock firmware).
ALSO, when I press "Android System" on the battery history, here's a list of what it shows:
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http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-231651.png
IS THIS NORMAL? :O
8-10 hours heavy usage? That seems like a lot...
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Sensation-al! said:
8-10 hours heavy usage? That seems like a lot...
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Actually that would be more of light/medium. Checking facebook every 30mins, a few texts now and then, playing a game for 30 minutes, listening to music for an hour, a call or two about 2mins each, a few instant messages on facebook, GPS use for 5 minutes, and idle for about 5 hours. Brightness at 50% or below. All on data connection, no wifi.
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Actually that would be more of light/medium. Checking facebook every 30mins, a few texts now and then, playing a game for 30 minutes, listening to music for an hour, a call or two about 2mins each, a few instant messages on facebook, GPS use for 5 minutes, and idle for about 5 hours. Brightness at 50% or below. All on data connection, no wifi.
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Well what do you think is suppose to happen when you USE your phone? Lol
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Well what do you think is suppose to happen when you USE your phone? Lol
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I know, but overall the time the display is on is 1-2 hours.. I know other people have been getting 16+ hours, 4 being with display on. With 4G data on.
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I know, but overall the time the display is on is 1-2 hours.. I know other people have been getting 16+ hours, 4 being with display on. With 4G data on.
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I see easily over 12 hours on a charge with my phone, and i use it heavily... 2 to 3 hours of phone time (at the least) wifi tether here and then, a lot of facebook iming and checking. Reading....
Something i noticed though. I got the phone in October or so, and the battery life started off pretty bad. I didnt do anything special, i figured it would be bad with such a massive screen. Over time though the battery improved, and now im seeing wonderful battery life. I usually unplug it at about 6:30 or so in the morning when i head to work, and yesterday at 10-something is when it started *****ing it had low battery life.
Moral of the story? Be patient, itll get better as time goes by.
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I know, but overall the time the display is on is 1-2 hours.. I know other people have been getting 16+ hours, 4 being with display on. With 4G data on.
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Your battery looks fine. Playing games rapes the battery. Also 4g rapes the battery.
There are ways to improve the battery but like you said... You need to use all of these features.
Go get a spare oem battery or a reputable extended battery.
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Im at 52% right now, 34% display, time on 3 hours 14 minutes, and sitting at 1d 1h 39m on battery. Light usage.
Something is definitely draining your battery. As you can see your phone is awake when the screen isn't even on. It's just likely an app you downloaded or something in the background. good luck narrowing it down
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Teo032 said:
Something is definitely draining your battery. As you can see your phone is awake when the screen isn't even on. It's just likely an app you downloaded or something in the background. good luck narrowing it down
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Lol way to back up your answer.
His battery is fine...
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G1ForFun said:
Your battery looks fine. Playing games rapes the battery. Also 4g rapes the battery.
There are ways to improve the battery but like you said... You need to use all of these features.
Go get a spare oem battery or a reputable extended battery.
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Just right now i'm on a bus and lost 5% in less than 10 minutes. Listening to music. All i did was send five texts, check Facebook for a minute and read the posts on this thread. That doesn't seem normal at all. 4G on, sync on.
blackangst said:
Im at 52% right now, 34% display, time on 3 hours 14 minutes, and sitting at 1d 1h 39m on battery. Light usage.
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this is more than what I'm expecting, but definitely shows that something is wrong with my battery life.
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Oskiee said:
I see easily over 12 hours on a charge with my phone, and i use it heavily... 2 to 3 hours of phone time (at the least) wifi tether here and then, a lot of facebook iming and checking. Reading....
Something i noticed though. I got the phone in October or so, and the battery life started off pretty bad. I didnt do anything special, i figured it would be bad with such a massive screen. Over time though the battery improved, and now im seeing wonderful battery life. I usually unplug it at about 6:30 or so in the morning when i head to work, and yesterday at 10-something is when it started *****ing it had low battery life.
Moral of the story? Be patient, itll get better as time goes by.
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You give me some hope. I recently ordered an Anker 2050mAh battery for this, hopefully that will help in the meanwhile.
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xFrozen said:
You give me some hope. I recently ordered an Anker 2050mAh battery for this, hopefully that will help in the meanwhile.
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2050mAh wouldn't get you to much more out of thr battery..
Only 200mAh over stock, hows this supposed to help if you have a sleep mode issue or app issue?
Bringz me back to my first statement.
Your kernel is NOT allowing deep sleep mode for whatever reason, your best bet would be make a backup
Delete data/factory reset and try it over a day.. if it works good, its an app issue, still the same. It is undoubtedly the kernel. Why pay more for maybe an hour out of your phone?
Run some actual tests to clarify the issue first..
There. I said my peace
If you tried everything else try recalibrating the battery.
I have seen this happen most often when flashing new ROMs. Especially if you did not wipe your system, data, and caches before install it seems to encourage this.
To Recalibrate Battery (must have custom recovery like cwm):
Charge phone to FULL
(I highly recommend AC charger for this)
Reboot into recovery
Look for wipe battery stats (should be I'm advanced if not main menu)
Unplug phone and restart it
Now FULLY KILL THE BATTERY
(for faster results set mp3 or video on repeat and let her rip)
Fully charge one more time and done
(again I highly suggest AC adaptor)
Keep in mind if you set your CPU to Max frequency or leave a demanding app running and CPU is set to allow full usage ondemand or performance the phone will kill battery very quickly.
Same if you leave antenna on auto 4G and it is weak around you and phone is always searching it will go fast as well.
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xFrozen: have you downloaded cpuspy to actually see if your phone is hitting deep sleep?
Realn00b said:
If you tried everything else try recalibrating the battery.
I have seen this happen most often when flashing new ROMs. Especially if you did not wipe your system, data, and caches before install it seems to encourage this.
To Recalibrate Battery (must have custom recovery like cwm):
Charge phone to FULL
(I highly recommend AC charger for this)
Reboot into recovery
Look for wipe battery stats (should be I'm advanced if not main menu)
Unplug phone and restart it
Now FULLY KILL THE BATTERY;
(for faster results set mp3 or video on repeat and let her rip)
Fully charge one more time and done
(again I highly suggest AC adaptor)
Keep in mind if you set your CPU to Max frequency or leave a demanding app running and CPU is set to allow full usage ondemand or performance the phone will kill battery very quickly.
Same if you leave antenna on auto 4G and it is weak around you and phone is always searching it will go fast as well.
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You sir, are a n00b, calibrating the battery is useless to this device and actually done automaticly.
So your post is useless and rather a waste of everyones time even reading. So thanks.
@above
Its obviously not hitting deep sleep, there's no way it can be and be draining the battery this quick.
@OP
As suggested above use cpuspy to check on the cpu when idle,
Sleep mode should kick in within 30sec to a minute.
Also chek my reply a few posts up and follow steps there..
Ignore Realn00b's post
Again:
@Realn00b
Please take the time to read up on batterystats.bin and find out what its for,
You don't need cwm to delete, just root explorer.. its in:
Data/system/batterystats.bin
Also, the entire basis of this is stupidity and was takin way out of context.
Batterystats is used to cache the active information of running applications (uptime/cpu usage, etc. NOT battery percents)
And should only be deleted under very very rare occasions (effecting above)
Your battery percent, is actually the mAh
Your system collects the information from a chip on the battery, among the information read, max mAh and current mAh.
The device then calculates from these the value we know as the percent.
Meaning, no device with a lithium ion battery stores charge information for the battery, making the entire purpose of your post for this, or ANY device not only useless, but also a little pathetic considering you would actually try to post a tip on something you are obviously completely uneducated about.
Please don't provide tips unless you are 100% sure of the situation and are actually educated on the material. Thanks
doug36 said:
2050mAh wouldn't get you to much more out of thr battery..
Only 200mAh over stock, hows this supposed to help if you have a sleep mode issue or app issue?
Bringz me back to my first statement.
Your kernel is NOT allowing deep sleep mode for whatever reason, your best bet would be make a backup
Delete data/factory reset and try it over a day.. if it works good, its an app issue, still the same. It is undoubtedly the kernel. Why pay more for maybe an hour out of your phone?
Run some actual tests to clarify the issue first..
There. I said my peace
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I originally purchased it for two reasons:
1. For long trips or for when I'll be gaming a lot
2. It had no reviews, so I figured I should buy it and test it. It's cheap anyways, $11.
Also, I'm on stock kernel. Everything stock + rooted.
I just did a re-flash with ODIN, so it has all the bloatware back on. I rooted and installed most of the main apps I use (facebook, aim, xda, google apps, games, basic things).
Currently I have sync on for Google contacts, calendar, and gmail. Facebook syncs with existing google contacts. T-Mobile contact sync off. Dropbox auto uploads camera photos on wifi only (I rarely take photos).
It's charging right now, at 50%. I might not have time to leave it idle today, so I could try in the morning if I have time.
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I originally purchased it for two reasons:
1. For long trips or for when I'll be gaming a lot
2. It had no reviews, so I figured I should buy it and test it. It's cheap anyways, $11.
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Yea your right that is a good price.. is it same size as stock and have NFC? can you post link?
Thanks.
And please excuse realn00b up there..
He didn't know wat he was talking about.. read my post below it if you want an explanation.
Take a look at the safe to remove apps list aswell I'll see if I can find it on google pages for you. I definitely recommend
Deleting unndeeded applications and even replace stock with third party where applicable.
doug36 said:
Yea your right that is a good price.. is it same size as stock and have NFC? can you post link?
Thanks.
And please excuse realn00b up there..
He didn't know wat he was talking about.. read my post below it if you want an explanation.
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1. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078WL4YO (i ordered this)
2. http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Batteries-Skyrocket-SGH-I727-Multi-purpose/dp/B0078WR4KW/ (even better deal!)
xFrozen said:
1. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078WL4YO (i ordered this)
2. http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Batteries-Skyrocket-SGH-I727-Multi-purpose/dp/B0078WR4KW/ (even better deal!)
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Thanks!
That is a good deal.. doesn't say if it has NFC though, got some tags comming now
So definitely want that lol xD i dont want one of those bulky ass ones though
Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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Best way to go is using normal charge an never let the battery drop below 20% forget about trying to maintain certain range (60-80), it will just drive you crazy
rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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Holmes108 said:
If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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So... buy an iPhone?
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rcobourn said:
So... buy an iPhone?
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So far you've been Super helpful to the op. Thanks for posting.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
RedsonRising said:
It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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That's not what he said. Read it again.
"Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use? "
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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So besides that little fight you had with the other forum member (lol) I appreciate your comment. But there seems to be back and forth, one other person says its good, another says its not. (the one I quoted below). Just seems weird to me that with no open or running apps and just the always on display running that it went down in an hour in 2%. Searching around, people saying losing 1% In an hour with the same set up, no running apps with AOD is bad. I kind of agree since its not truly in use. But unfortunately I cannot find any battery standby tests from Samsung or anyone else to confirm it.
aznmode said:
Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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I agree with you more honestly that it shouldn't be going down that fast in an hour with just the AOD running. I didn't have any apps running once it 100%, I was on it while charing it to around 50% but then once I knew I was putting it down for a while I ran the optimization and had the phone kill all the apps. When I saw it go down the 2% I did check out the apps using the battery and the AOD was the only thing listed. Maybe I didn't charge to a full 100%? even though it said 100%... Ill check it out tomorrow once I charge it fully again, today I was charging it up and down most of the day sadly. I try and keep most apps from not running in the background, some I do need though like for my IoT devices needing to know my location, I have yet to change that to just using LTE as my location GPS, but that was not on last night all. Ill try out the sleeping apps though, I didn't know there was a setting for that. Thanks again
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
ccigas said:
Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
winol said:
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
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In an hour? Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use.
DeeXii said:
Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
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This is useful, thank you. Never knew not discharging device is the way to go but we all learn new things every day. I'm at 65% right now, when waking up at 6am with 95%. Wireless android auto for about an hour, plus okay-ish use. Ill make sure to charge it up to around 80% tonight.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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Thanks, I think I am seeing a bit better today after having it for 4 days or so now? Ill follow the above quote about calibration and go from there.
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Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
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Over 8 hours screen time is great, best I've gotten so far is 7.5 hours
I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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Yeah I came from an S10+ and noticed my battery on the N10+ was pretty bad in comparison.
I did restore everything from my S10+ though, not a clean install of everything.
Wonder if that may be causing issues.
Is everyone having problems on Verizon?
Quote " Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use."
Unless you put it in airplane mode, your phone will keep connected to cell tower (or wifi if you have wifi calling) otherwise you won't receive calls and messages, so there is no such thing as phone with no use, and if you have weak signal or some interference your battery usage can increase drastically even in standby because the cell radio will try to connect at full transmit power. And then you have all those programs running in the background, God knows what they're doing. As others suggested disable programs you don't use, also you can force close programs that you don't use often. When I had my older Note rooted, I optimized it so well it would run 2% down per 8 hrs overnight, but it took some effort. Biggest problem is to know what to disable without loosing functionality for stuff you need. Give it some time for people to learn more about new phone. BTW my 3 day old phone has 435 apps and services installed and most of them I have no idea what they do.