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Defective battery?

Battery consumption is going trough the roof lately..
Can someone tell me if it is normal to go from 56% to 28% in an hour of surfing and listening to music? (see screenshots) Screen brightness is 10% and just surfing, no downloading from the market etcetera..
I think it's unacceptable.. Took my phone from the charger 7:30 this morning, i charged it at work from 50 to 60% in the afternoon.
Current charge is 17%.
I already changed my ROM (clear cache, dalvik, storage) and radio but it doesn't seem to help at all...
I ordered a replacement battery for only 10 euro at ebay so i hope it will solve the issue..
Also, is there a known fix for the 90% charge on wakeup? It's rather annoying.

Yep thats 3G for you.. I've just been doing the same fir about 10 and already a 15% drop.. at least yiu can change the battery unlike the iPhone..
xx
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!PANDA said:
Yep thats 3G for you.. I've just been doing the same fir about 10 and already a 15% drop.. at least yiu can change the battery unlike the iPhone..
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That's ridiculous.. Are you telling me it's normal to drop a percent per minute when actually using the device? (happened to me the other day)

Yeah I hear you. This phone has absolutely pathetic battery life. Even worse than an iPhone! Even using SetCPU to underclock it has little effect.
Just 10 minutes after unplugging it from the charger its at 94%. Another 10 minutes later its at 89.
Disturbing.

If you are sure you don't have an app running in the background, or a badly coded app draining your battery, I'd try THIS. I get around 48 hours of medium use on a full charge.
Calibrating the battery made a massive difference to me.

I forgot to mention that in fact i did calibrate my battery. Twice. Already 6% down in 10 minutes as we speak.
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Imperium said:
I forgot to mention that in fact i did calibrate my battery. Twice. Already 6% down in 10 minutes as we speak.
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Im not trying to be rude but im assuming you have checked all your settings & applications for wakelock bugs and syncing related stuff?
You should roughly have ~1% per hour consumption when idling(screen off).
Try typing *#*#INFO#*#* and see battery history for any abnormalities, like way higher "running" % than "screen on" %. They should be pretty much equal.

Jgruar said:
Im not trying to be rude but im assuming you have checked all your settings & applications for wakelock bugs and syncing related stuff?
You should roughly have ~1% per hour consumption when idling(screen off).
Try typing *#*#INFO#*#* and see battery history for any abnormalities, like way higher "running" % than "screen on" %. They should be pretty much equal.
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Yes i checked all those things numerous times also no abnormalities in applications sucking up all the juice.
I think we can conclude the battery(consumption) just sucks monkey balls.

When your battery is fully charged go to phone and type the following. *#*#4636#*#* then tap battery information. It should say battery health good, and then Battery voltage. What doe that read?
I'd also try calibrating the battery again, following the instructions to the letter. If all else fails I'd try a factory reset and run it at stock for a while to test and ensure you don't have a rogue app.
One thing I'd say about your cheap replacement battery. They are never going to be nearly as good as an original, as they are mostly poorly made and deliberately wrongly labelled to make them look like they are high powered, and at worst can be dangerous. Just be careful with that one.
I really can't understand why you would have such poor battery life. I'm happilly getting at least 48 hours with mine. I have wifi and data enabled all the time, use it a lot for twitter, make a few calls, and send texts.
Anyway, good luck and let me know how you get on.

rolfd said:
When your battery is fully charged go to phone and type the following. *#*#4636#*#* then tap battery information. It should say battery health good, and then Battery voltage. What doe that read?
I'd also try calibrating the battery again, following the instructions to the letter. If all else fails I'd try a factory reset and run it at stock for a while to test and ensure you don't have a rogue app.
One thing I'd say about your cheap replacement battery. They are never going to be nearly as good as an original, as they are mostly poorly made and deliberately wrongly labelled to make them look like they are high powered, and at worst can be dangerous. Just be careful with that one.
I really can't understand why you would have such poor battery life. I'm happilly getting at least 48 hours with mine. I have wifi and data enabled all the time, use it a lot for twitter, make a few calls, and send texts.
Anyway, good luck and let me know how you get on.
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Cheers for your reply,
I checked using *#*#4636#*#* and nothing out of the ordinary to be honest.
When fully charged it's around 4100mV so that should be ok as well.
About the cheap battery, it's from E-cell in the UK and my previous purchases were of good quality. So will see if it's crap or not

Having the same issue as you. Bought my phone 5 days back and I calibrated the battery too. No sneaky app trying to drain the battery.
Will wait for couple of days and then as suggested will reset the phone to factory settings and then check.

Horrible battery life while just being idle?!!?

I've had this phone for about a month. Started off on stock, and rooted it and flashed different ROMs and kernels. I never really got good battery life with any ROM. Typically I would get around 7 to 10 hours of moderate usage.
I fully went back to stock firmware and kernel using ODIN, to flash 2.3.6. I rooted it and removed some bloatware apps. BUT, the battery life seems so bad.. it's been 2 days, I've done calibration 2 or 3 times.
Leaving my phone idle, in one spot, I lose about 4-5% an hour. 4G Data on, wifi off, 2/4 bars of signal, sync on (only gmail, google docs, contacts, calendar).
But today, I think it got worse, as shown here: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-230121.png
Graph: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-230126.png
Note: the data icon on top shows that it's on 3G, because I moved out of good signal area when I took the screenshots. The phone was idle in a spot with 4G getting 3-5mbps.
What's wrong with this? The phone is a month old, so I don't think it's a battery problem. I've calibrated 2-3 times since I went back to stock.
Also, don't recommend me to use Juice Defender. I use Google Voice to call and text, so I need data on all the time. And I know this phone can last over a day with data on (my friend has the same phone and it has lasted 2 days on one charge, completely stock firmware).
ALSO, when I press "Android System" on the battery history, here's a list of what it shows:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-231629.png
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http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-231651.png
IS THIS NORMAL? :O

8-10 hours heavy usage? That seems like a lot...
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Sensation-al! said:
8-10 hours heavy usage? That seems like a lot...
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Actually that would be more of light/medium. Checking facebook every 30mins, a few texts now and then, playing a game for 30 minutes, listening to music for an hour, a call or two about 2mins each, a few instant messages on facebook, GPS use for 5 minutes, and idle for about 5 hours. Brightness at 50% or below. All on data connection, no wifi.

xFrozen said:
Actually that would be more of light/medium. Checking facebook every 30mins, a few texts now and then, playing a game for 30 minutes, listening to music for an hour, a call or two about 2mins each, a few instant messages on facebook, GPS use for 5 minutes, and idle for about 5 hours. Brightness at 50% or below. All on data connection, no wifi.
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Well what do you think is suppose to happen when you USE your phone? Lol
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cashyftw said:
Well what do you think is suppose to happen when you USE your phone? Lol
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I know, but overall the time the display is on is 1-2 hours.. I know other people have been getting 16+ hours, 4 being with display on. With 4G data on.

xFrozen said:
I know, but overall the time the display is on is 1-2 hours.. I know other people have been getting 16+ hours, 4 being with display on. With 4G data on.
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I see easily over 12 hours on a charge with my phone, and i use it heavily... 2 to 3 hours of phone time (at the least) wifi tether here and then, a lot of facebook iming and checking. Reading....
Something i noticed though. I got the phone in October or so, and the battery life started off pretty bad. I didnt do anything special, i figured it would be bad with such a massive screen. Over time though the battery improved, and now im seeing wonderful battery life. I usually unplug it at about 6:30 or so in the morning when i head to work, and yesterday at 10-something is when it started *****ing it had low battery life.
Moral of the story? Be patient, itll get better as time goes by.

xFrozen said:
I know, but overall the time the display is on is 1-2 hours.. I know other people have been getting 16+ hours, 4 being with display on. With 4G data on.
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Your battery looks fine. Playing games rapes the battery. Also 4g rapes the battery.
There are ways to improve the battery but like you said... You need to use all of these features.
Go get a spare oem battery or a reputable extended battery.
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Im at 52% right now, 34% display, time on 3 hours 14 minutes, and sitting at 1d 1h 39m on battery. Light usage.

Something is definitely draining your battery. As you can see your phone is awake when the screen isn't even on. It's just likely an app you downloaded or something in the background. good luck narrowing it down
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Teo032 said:
Something is definitely draining your battery. As you can see your phone is awake when the screen isn't even on. It's just likely an app you downloaded or something in the background. good luck narrowing it down
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Lol way to back up your answer.
His battery is fine...
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G1ForFun said:
Your battery looks fine. Playing games rapes the battery. Also 4g rapes the battery.
There are ways to improve the battery but like you said... You need to use all of these features.
Go get a spare oem battery or a reputable extended battery.
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Just right now i'm on a bus and lost 5% in less than 10 minutes. Listening to music. All i did was send five texts, check Facebook for a minute and read the posts on this thread. That doesn't seem normal at all. 4G on, sync on.
blackangst said:
Im at 52% right now, 34% display, time on 3 hours 14 minutes, and sitting at 1d 1h 39m on battery. Light usage.
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this is more than what I'm expecting, but definitely shows that something is wrong with my battery life.
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Oskiee said:
I see easily over 12 hours on a charge with my phone, and i use it heavily... 2 to 3 hours of phone time (at the least) wifi tether here and then, a lot of facebook iming and checking. Reading....
Something i noticed though. I got the phone in October or so, and the battery life started off pretty bad. I didnt do anything special, i figured it would be bad with such a massive screen. Over time though the battery improved, and now im seeing wonderful battery life. I usually unplug it at about 6:30 or so in the morning when i head to work, and yesterday at 10-something is when it started *****ing it had low battery life.
Moral of the story? Be patient, itll get better as time goes by.
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You give me some hope. I recently ordered an Anker 2050mAh battery for this, hopefully that will help in the meanwhile.
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xFrozen said:
You give me some hope. I recently ordered an Anker 2050mAh battery for this, hopefully that will help in the meanwhile.
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2050mAh wouldn't get you to much more out of thr battery..
Only 200mAh over stock, hows this supposed to help if you have a sleep mode issue or app issue?
Bringz me back to my first statement.
Your kernel is NOT allowing deep sleep mode for whatever reason, your best bet would be make a backup
Delete data/factory reset and try it over a day.. if it works good, its an app issue, still the same. It is undoubtedly the kernel. Why pay more for maybe an hour out of your phone?
Run some actual tests to clarify the issue first..
There. I said my peace

If you tried everything else try recalibrating the battery.
I have seen this happen most often when flashing new ROMs. Especially if you did not wipe your system, data, and caches before install it seems to encourage this.
To Recalibrate Battery (must have custom recovery like cwm):
Charge phone to FULL
(I highly recommend AC charger for this)
Reboot into recovery
Look for wipe battery stats (should be I'm advanced if not main menu)
Unplug phone and restart it
Now FULLY KILL THE BATTERY
(for faster results set mp3 or video on repeat and let her rip)
Fully charge one more time and done
(again I highly suggest AC adaptor)
Keep in mind if you set your CPU to Max frequency or leave a demanding app running and CPU is set to allow full usage ondemand or performance the phone will kill battery very quickly.
Same if you leave antenna on auto 4G and it is weak around you and phone is always searching it will go fast as well.
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xFrozen: have you downloaded cpuspy to actually see if your phone is hitting deep sleep?

Realn00b said:
If you tried everything else try recalibrating the battery.
I have seen this happen most often when flashing new ROMs. Especially if you did not wipe your system, data, and caches before install it seems to encourage this.
To Recalibrate Battery (must have custom recovery like cwm):
Charge phone to FULL
(I highly recommend AC charger for this)
Reboot into recovery
Look for wipe battery stats (should be I'm advanced if not main menu)
Unplug phone and restart it
Now FULLY KILL THE BATTERY;
(for faster results set mp3 or video on repeat and let her rip)
Fully charge one more time and done
(again I highly suggest AC adaptor)
Keep in mind if you set your CPU to Max frequency or leave a demanding app running and CPU is set to allow full usage ondemand or performance the phone will kill battery very quickly.
Same if you leave antenna on auto 4G and it is weak around you and phone is always searching it will go fast as well.
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You sir, are a n00b, calibrating the battery is useless to this device and actually done automaticly.
So your post is useless and rather a waste of everyones time even reading. So thanks.
@above
Its obviously not hitting deep sleep, there's no way it can be and be draining the battery this quick.
@OP
As suggested above use cpuspy to check on the cpu when idle,
Sleep mode should kick in within 30sec to a minute.
Also chek my reply a few posts up and follow steps there..
Ignore Realn00b's post
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@Realn00b
Please take the time to read up on batterystats.bin and find out what its for,
You don't need cwm to delete, just root explorer.. its in:
Data/system/batterystats.bin
Also, the entire basis of this is stupidity and was takin way out of context.
Batterystats is used to cache the active information of running applications (uptime/cpu usage, etc. NOT battery percents)
And should only be deleted under very very rare occasions (effecting above)
Your battery percent, is actually the mAh
Your system collects the information from a chip on the battery, among the information read, max mAh and current mAh.
The device then calculates from these the value we know as the percent.
Meaning, no device with a lithium ion battery stores charge information for the battery, making the entire purpose of your post for this, or ANY device not only useless, but also a little pathetic considering you would actually try to post a tip on something you are obviously completely uneducated about.
Please don't provide tips unless you are 100% sure of the situation and are actually educated on the material. Thanks

doug36 said:
2050mAh wouldn't get you to much more out of thr battery..
Only 200mAh over stock, hows this supposed to help if you have a sleep mode issue or app issue?
Bringz me back to my first statement.
Your kernel is NOT allowing deep sleep mode for whatever reason, your best bet would be make a backup
Delete data/factory reset and try it over a day.. if it works good, its an app issue, still the same. It is undoubtedly the kernel. Why pay more for maybe an hour out of your phone?
Run some actual tests to clarify the issue first..
There. I said my peace
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I originally purchased it for two reasons:
1. For long trips or for when I'll be gaming a lot
2. It had no reviews, so I figured I should buy it and test it. It's cheap anyways, $11.
Also, I'm on stock kernel. Everything stock + rooted.
I just did a re-flash with ODIN, so it has all the bloatware back on. I rooted and installed most of the main apps I use (facebook, aim, xda, google apps, games, basic things).
Currently I have sync on for Google contacts, calendar, and gmail. Facebook syncs with existing google contacts. T-Mobile contact sync off. Dropbox auto uploads camera photos on wifi only (I rarely take photos).
It's charging right now, at 50%. I might not have time to leave it idle today, so I could try in the morning if I have time.

xFrozen said:
I originally purchased it for two reasons:
1. For long trips or for when I'll be gaming a lot
2. It had no reviews, so I figured I should buy it and test it. It's cheap anyways, $11.
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Yea your right that is a good price.. is it same size as stock and have NFC? can you post link?
Thanks.
And please excuse realn00b up there..
He didn't know wat he was talking about.. read my post below it if you want an explanation.
Take a look at the safe to remove apps list aswell I'll see if I can find it on google pages for you. I definitely recommend
Deleting unndeeded applications and even replace stock with third party where applicable.

doug36 said:
Yea your right that is a good price.. is it same size as stock and have NFC? can you post link?
Thanks.
And please excuse realn00b up there..
He didn't know wat he was talking about.. read my post below it if you want an explanation.
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1. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078WL4YO (i ordered this)
2. http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Batteries-Skyrocket-SGH-I727-Multi-purpose/dp/B0078WR4KW/ (even better deal!)

xFrozen said:
1. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078WL4YO (i ordered this)
2. http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Batteries-Skyrocket-SGH-I727-Multi-purpose/dp/B0078WR4KW/ (even better deal!)
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Thanks!
That is a good deal.. doesn't say if it has NFC though, got some tags comming now
So definitely want that lol xD i dont want one of those bulky ass ones though

[Q] Short battery life

I've had my Galaxy W for just over a year. Whilst I was running the stock ROM I would more or less get a full day out of the battery. I upgraded rooted my device and installed the Cyanogen CM9 rc2 ROM. I don't recall any battery problems at first, but just over a week ago it started draining within five or six hours. This happened every day for a week.
Since then I have uninstaleld all apps (apart from Google Authenticator which I couldn't manage without), turned off wifi, bluetooth and everything else I could think of. Now I seem to be getting about 36 hours out of the battery... Although I think it goes from 35% down to 10% very, very quickly.
Leaving all data connections off and having no apps is okay in the short term, but is there a long term software solution?

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I've had my Galaxy W for just over a year. Whilst I was running the stock ROM I would more or less get a full day out of the battery. I upgraded rooted my device and installed the Cyanogen CM9 rc2 ROM. I don't recall any battery problems at first, but just over a week ago it started draining within five or six hours. This happened every day for a week.
Since then I have uninstaleld all apps (apart from Google Authenticator which I couldn't manage without), turned off wifi, bluetooth and everything else I could think of. Now I seem to be getting about 36 hours out of the battery... Although I think it goes from 35% down to 10% very, very quickly.
Leaving all data connections off and having no apps is okay in the short term, but is there a long term software solution?
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after your install your rom,do you already callibrate battery your phone??
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fixero said:
after your install your rom,do you already callibrate battery your phone??
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Not immediately, but about a week later. Is it worth going through that process again?
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This is the app that I used:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en

Before I uninstalled any apps I downloaded and installed CPU Spy. Here are two screenshots taken with CPU spy.
I could reinstall it now without any other apps installed, if that will help?
I don't know enough about this, but I expected that the phone would spend a higher percentage of it's time in 'deep sleep' than that.

creative-2008 said:
Before I uninstalled any apps I downloaded and installed CPU Spy. Here are two screenshots taken with CPU spy.
I could reinstall it now without any other apps installed, if that will help?
I don't know enough about this, but I expected that the phone would spend a higher percentage of it's time in 'deep sleep' than that.
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That should have been right. I don't know what is happening with your deep sleep, although your phone is on for 16 hrs but the deep sleep only reach not almost half of it. Did you use your phone often?
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reddvilzz said:
That should have been right. I don't know what is happening with your deep sleep, although your phone is on for 16 hrs but the deep sleep only reach not almost half of it. Did you use your phone often?
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On the occasions shown, I used it some, but not a lot. There have been occasions where the battery has gone from full to flat in five hours, with the phone only being used for 5 minutes.

creative-2008 said:
On the occasions shown, I used it some, but not a lot. There have been occasions where the battery has gone from full to flat in five hours, with the phone only being used for 5 minutes.
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Interesting.. how about you check on the battery is it bloating or not?
For battery problem is either the phone calibrated wrong readings on the battery or the battery it self is the problem.
If you use your phone not too often but the deep sleep only reach 34% of the time then some apps is preventing the deep sleep, try to check what apps is that causes that with some battery stats app, try search it in xda or market
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reddvilzz said:
Interesting.. how about you check on the battery is it bloating or not?
For battery problem is either the phone calibrated wrong readings on the battery or the battery it self is the problem.
If you use your phone not too often but the deep sleep only reach 34% of the time then some apps is preventing the deep sleep, try to check what apps is that causes that with some battery stats app, try search it in xda or market
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I've gone for Battery Stats Plus. I'll reenable wifi, bluetooth and 3G for a few days and see what happens. If that takes a toll on the battery I will post back with details from Battery Stats Plus.
I will also take the battery out later to inspect it.
Update:
My battery had 15-20% remaining and I turned it off, and tried to turn it back on. It now thinks that it does not have enough power to boot the phone. I don't know if that new information is helpful or not.

creative-2008 said:
I've gone for Battery Stats Plus. I'll reenable wifi, bluetooth and 3G for a few days and see what happens. If that takes a toll on the battery I will post back with details from Battery Stats Plus.
I will also take the battery out later to inspect it.
Update:
My battery had 15-20% remaining and I turned it off, and tried to turn it back on. It now thinks that it does not have enough power to boot the phone. I don't know if that new information is helpful or not.
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With 15 - 20% it should have boot, because it still have juice left. What about your battery physics? Is it bloating or just normal?
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;D

Took the battery out this morning for a proper look. There's definitely some bloating. Time to get looking for a replacement battery?
Could there be two issues here? As from the screenshots I posted the phone doesn't seem to have spent a lot of time in deep sleep.

I was just watching a YouTube video, with about 70% battery. The phone turned off, and when I've turned it back on it's gone down to 2%.
Could this be down to an improperly calibrated battery, or is it purely down to the physical damage/bloating to the battery?

creative-2008 said:
I was just watching a YouTube video, with about 70% battery. The phone turned off, and when I've turned it back on it's gone down to 2%.
Could this be down to an improperly calibrated battery, or is it purely down to the physical damage/bloating to the battery?
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most probably you suffer wrong calibrated battery problem , I think
sorry I didnt see your first post (about bloating) :/ , definetely you should buy a new battery

Thanks for your advice.
I'm going to install Battery Calibration by Nema from Google Play. I'll see how I get on with that.
I'm going to order a replacement battery this week. I'm looking for a direct replacement, with an official Samsung battery. I have posted here in the Accessories forum. I hope that was the right place to put it.

After I install the CM10 alpha 6 conform to the first post, the battery life of my cellphone has been drained very fast - 21% about 6 hours and half.
Can anyone help me, please? I already did the battery calibration and I can't see effects. I'm wondering if is better install CM 9 or just go back to the android 2.3.6 factory version of my cellphone.

creative-2008 said:
Took the battery out this morning for a proper look. There's definitely some bloating. Time to get looking for a replacement battery?
Could there be two issues here? As from the screenshots I posted the phone doesn't seem to have spent a lot of time in deep sleep.
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Your battery is bloated? Then you *must* replace it. Period.
A damaged battery is the root cause of myriads of problems. Until that battery is replaced, you _will_ experience all kinds of annoyances, no matter what ROM/Kernel you're using, including inexplicable battery drain.
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elgleidson said:
After I install the CM10 alpha 6 conform to the first post, the battery life of my cellphone has been drained very fast - 21% about 6 hours and half.
Can anyone help me, please? I already did the battery calibration and I can't see effects. I'm wondering if is better install CM 9 or just go back to the android 2.3.6 factory version of my cellphone.
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Two more pictures from today, after my third battery recharge.
What do you guys recommend?

elgleidson said:
Two more pictures from today, after my third battery recharge.
What do you guys recommend?
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How old is your battery?
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pepoluan said:
How old is your battery?
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My cellphone is 1 year and half old. On android factory version the battery last for about 30 hours. In CM10 the battery don't last more than 12 hours.

elgleidson said:
My cellphone is 1 year and half old. On android factory version the battery last for about 30 hours. In CM10 the battery don't last more than 12 hours.
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Time to replace your battery.
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[Q] [q] Is this what a dying battery looks like?

I noticed when I was looking at battery stats (trying to figure out what's eating the battery; very little in the way of apps installed)
I bought the phone last week, but I bought it used on eBay. It came with the original box and the manufacture date is 6/30/12, so I figure this was someone's everyday device for 10 months.
The reason I ask is that sudden dip from 20 to 30%. And the other reason I ask is that I only get about 10 hours with 3 hours of screen-on time on a full charge. If the battery is just losing capacity, that's fine - I'll get a ZeroLemon 2300maH battery and I should get much better life. If the battery still has close to full capacity, then I'll get an extended-capacity battery. I just need some guidance as to whether or not it's crapping out so I have a better idea of what to buy.
Thanks!

Jump is weird. Could be the battery is flaky. But I would make effort to reseat it. I want to see what BetterBatteryStats says about that terrible wakelocking, though.
You can delete batterystats.bin from /data/system. Everyone says it does nothing. But I do it anyway. Because I can.

My stock battery usually gives me 7-8hrs of standby and 3hrs of screen time.
Zerolemon 2300mah gives me 20hrs of standby and usually 5hrs of screen time.
You can check in the accessories section in the zerolemon 2300mah that I've posted some of my results via screenshots.
About the dip, I'm not sure I've never noticed that on any of my batteries.
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Jump has been there consistently. Had the phone 4 days, and every day when it hits 30% it drops to 20%.
Installed Betterbatterystats and I'll see what's keeping it awake. It does seem to be awake an awful lot compared to my old Atrix (switched to T-Mobile a month or so ago, and just got the phone after I was switched for a bit), which got way better battery life.

10 hours with 3 hours of on screen time is just about average for the stock battery.
I would recommended getting the zero lemon 2300 mAh slim batteries if you're lucky enough to place an order for them. They only restock in small amounts and they disappear quick.
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707BeastMode707 said:
10 hours with 3 hours of on screen time is just about average for the stock battery.
I would recommended getting the zero lemon 2300 mAh slim batteries if you're lucky enough to place an order for them. They only restock in small amounts and they disappear quick.
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Well that's good to know. They're in stock right now on Amazon so I'll pick up the 2-pack with the charger.

OK so far the phone has spent half its time unplugged staying awake, and about half of that is being caused by DeskSMS. I got a trial a long time back and decided not to bother because I didn't use it, and when my google account restored to the phone, it apparently got installed and I didn't notice. I've uninstalled that and we'll see what else happens. Very thankful for the BetterBatteryStats suggestion; I'd never heard of it.

Well the battery is lithium ion. With repeated charging the battery loses capacity. If the battery is the one that came with the phone, buy a new stock one for cheap off Amazon. That is if you use NFC and have a certain fitted case. If not, go for an extended battery by reviews on Amazon and XDA. My battery is from December and I haven't noticed any decrease yet. The temperature of which your phone runs and the temperature of the environment also effect battery life.
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Great news, everyone. Desk Sms was the culprit all along. This is 3 hours of Netflix and then sleep over night. Just a couple wake locks that I can attribute to emails received overnight.
So out turns out the battery other than the weird drop, at least with the power saver on.
Thanks in particular for the Better Battery Stats suggestion. Without it I would have been majorly confused.
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DeerSteak said:
Great news, everyone. Desk Sms was the culprit all along. This is 3 hours of Netflix and then sleep over night. Just a couple wake locks that I can attribute to emails received overnight.
So out turns out the battery other than the weird drop, at least with the power saver on.
Thanks in particular for the Better Battery Stats suggestion. Without it I would have been majorly confused.
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Glad you were able to get it all figured out. Wakelocks are VERY annoying. Search for kms.apk if Mediaserver is ever draining your battery in the future, it is a common battery draining problem as well.
If you're on TouchWiz using Power Saver, I'd recommend disabling it. It throttles your CPU in half. This may cause instability, or overheating problems or sometimes even battery drain ironically. I do however recommend, KT747 kernel with changing govs, and I/O scheduler and using Team Kernelizer tweaks. Try Eugene's CPUSleeper and it may help put DeskSMS to sleep for good. And how could I forget? Definitely try Greenify. It makes apps behave akin to iOS devices. Best of luck.

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Glad you were able to get it all figured out. Wakelocks are VERY annoying. Search for kms.apk if Mediaserver is ever draining your battery in the future, it is a common battery draining problem as well.
If you're on TouchWiz using Power Saver, I'd recommend disabling it. It throttles your CPU in half. This may cause instability, or overheating problems or sometimes even battery drain ironically. I do however recommend, KT747 kernel with changing govs, and I/O scheduler and using Team Kernelizer tweaks. Try Eugene's CPUSleeper and it may help put DeskSMS to sleep for good. And how could I forget? Definitely try Greenify. It makes apps behave akin to iOS devices. Best of luck.
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The problem with Greenify, in this case, is you can't hibernate apps that send notifications, or you will never get them.

The power saver doesn't bother me. Being in the notification area makes it easy to toggle and performance has been fine. Better Battery Stats says it gets up to 1 GHz Mac and that is plenty on the web or Facebook or Netflix.
I had assumed the media server popping up was due to Netflix streaming. It hasn't been back today since recharging. If it comes back I'll look more at disabling. Today battery life has been great. 12 hours with 2 hours of on time and at 45 percent. I definitely over reacted to the drop and it must have been Desk SMS which never should have been installed.
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If anyone has any issue with their battery sprint corp stores have a tester takes about ten min. They won't have a problem doing it if you're nice, sprint or not. It will either end up excellent marginal or poor... they don't charge for the test.
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Battery Reducing Quickly?

Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help

If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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Best way to go is using normal charge an never let the battery drop below 20% forget about trying to maintain certain range (60-80), it will just drive you crazy

rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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Holmes108 said:
If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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So... buy an iPhone?
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rcobourn said:
So... buy an iPhone?
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So far you've been Super helpful to the op. Thanks for posting.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.

RedsonRising said:
It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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That's not what he said. Read it again.
"Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use? "
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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So besides that little fight you had with the other forum member (lol) I appreciate your comment. But there seems to be back and forth, one other person says its good, another says its not. (the one I quoted below). Just seems weird to me that with no open or running apps and just the always on display running that it went down in an hour in 2%. Searching around, people saying losing 1% In an hour with the same set up, no running apps with AOD is bad. I kind of agree since its not truly in use. But unfortunately I cannot find any battery standby tests from Samsung or anyone else to confirm it.
aznmode said:
Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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I agree with you more honestly that it shouldn't be going down that fast in an hour with just the AOD running. I didn't have any apps running once it 100%, I was on it while charing it to around 50% but then once I knew I was putting it down for a while I ran the optimization and had the phone kill all the apps. When I saw it go down the 2% I did check out the apps using the battery and the AOD was the only thing listed. Maybe I didn't charge to a full 100%? even though it said 100%... Ill check it out tomorrow once I charge it fully again, today I was charging it up and down most of the day sadly. I try and keep most apps from not running in the background, some I do need though like for my IoT devices needing to know my location, I have yet to change that to just using LTE as my location GPS, but that was not on last night all. Ill try out the sleeping apps though, I didn't know there was a setting for that. Thanks again

AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)

ccigas said:
Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.

Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.

Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.

winol said:
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
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In an hour? Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use.
DeeXii said:
Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
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This is useful, thank you. Never knew not discharging device is the way to go but we all learn new things every day. I'm at 65% right now, when waking up at 6am with 95%. Wireless android auto for about an hour, plus okay-ish use. Ill make sure to charge it up to around 80% tonight.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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Thanks, I think I am seeing a bit better today after having it for 4 days or so now? Ill follow the above quote about calibration and go from there.

ssgunner20 said:
Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
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Over 8 hours screen time is great, best I've gotten so far is 7.5 hours

I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.

sikclown said:
I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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Yeah I came from an S10+ and noticed my battery on the N10+ was pretty bad in comparison.
I did restore everything from my S10+ though, not a clean install of everything.
Wonder if that may be causing issues.

Is everyone having problems on Verizon?

Quote " Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use."
Unless you put it in airplane mode, your phone will keep connected to cell tower (or wifi if you have wifi calling) otherwise you won't receive calls and messages, so there is no such thing as phone with no use, and if you have weak signal or some interference your battery usage can increase drastically even in standby because the cell radio will try to connect at full transmit power. And then you have all those programs running in the background, God knows what they're doing. As others suggested disable programs you don't use, also you can force close programs that you don't use often. When I had my older Note rooted, I optimized it so well it would run 2% down per 8 hrs overnight, but it took some effort. Biggest problem is to know what to disable without loosing functionality for stuff you need. Give it some time for people to learn more about new phone. BTW my 3 day old phone has 435 apps and services installed and most of them I have no idea what they do.