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[Q] Another Question By A Noob!

Hey guys! I figured you guys can help me out with this question.
I'm considering rooting my phone but I don't really want any custom ROMs. I'm happy with my current theme. I can already tether.
All I really want to do is root and have a move to sd enabler (for those pesky apps that are really cool, kind of big and don't have the move to sd enabled) and freeze my bloatware.
Can I root my phone JUST to do this without changing ROMs?
Can I root my phone and still get updates on my current ROM?
Thanks for your time and your patience with this noob.

VENOMENON_24 said:
Can I root my phone JUST to do this without changing ROMs?
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Absolutely.
VENOMENON_24 said:
Can I root my phone and still get updates on my current ROM?
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This i do not know. I would assume not.

Root your phone and flash sprint lovers rom. Or any 2.2 sense rom still lets you update. Plus you get to remove bloatware and look into other kernels that could give you better speed/battery. Why root and not change roms?
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dirkyd3rk said:
Root your phone and flash sprint lovers rom. Or any 2.2 sense rom still lets you update. Plus you get to remove bloatware and look into other kernels that could give you better speed/battery. Why root and not change roms?
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Because I don't know a lot about phones. I don't really want to screw anything up such as my GPS, wifi, or 4G. I'm comfortable with sense and froyo and I like them. My friend has the same phone, rooted his, and I've played with it. It's cool, just not for me. I like the layout of sense.
Please tell me more about Sprint Lovers ROM.

Everything you want to know:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153

VENOMENON_24 said:
Because I don't know a lot about phones. I don't really want to screw anything up such as my GPS, wifi, or 4G. I'm comfortable with sense and froyo and I like them. My friend has the same phone, rooted his, and I've played with it. It's cool, just not for me. I like the layout of sense.
Please tell me more about Sprint Lovers ROM.
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We're all here to help you bud, no worries. The sprint lovers rom is pretty much just a stock rooted rom with the normal sprint goodies with nothing removed along with a few extra tweaks. The rom is great and sounds about what youre looking for. If you search around the development section you can find really easy methods to root your phone and the sprint lovers thread is also there. I would link it up for you but I'm on my phone not home yet. But ill edit this post and link it up for you check back in like 30 mins. Rooting is very easy now a days and so is flashing. As long as you read first you should be fine. The only people who screw things up are people who don't read or research. If you need anything just pm me ill help you. Good luck
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hey bro, yes you can root and keep the stock one, but remember IMPORTANT, dont accept sprint OTA updates they will unroot you, also you should consider titanium backup after you root it is usefull for freezing those sprint apps and keep them out of the way.
then try any app2sd of your choice, good luck
and if you ever decide to try roms, is not that hard and instructions aren't that hard my favorite sense rom is azrael xv4 very stable good battery life.

dirkyd3rk said:
We're all here to help you bud, no worries. The sprint lovers rom is pretty much just a stock rooted rom with the normal sprint goodies with nothing removed along with a few extra tweaks. The rom is great and sounds about what youre looking for. If you search around the development section you can find really easy methods to root your phone and the sprint lovers thread is also there. I would link it up for you but I'm on my phone not home yet. But ill edit this post and link it up for you check back in like 30 mins. Rooting is very easy now a days and so is flashing. As long as you read first you should be fine. The only people who screw things up are people who don't read or research. If you need anything just pm me ill help you. Good luck
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Thank you so much! I really appreciate you and everyone else here helping me. I know I can be a little frustrating as a noob because we don't know much. I really appreciate you of all.
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VENOMENON_24 said:
Thank you so much! I really appreciate you and everyone else here helping me. I know I can be a little frustrating as a noob because we don't know much. I really appreciate you of all.
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no prob, anytime man.

I just went through this earlier this week. Some of the rooting techniques require you to wipe your phone or flash a rom like sprint lovers, but if you just want root, I used unrevoked. quick and painless, took less than 15 minutes.

Unrevoked will do a lovely job for you, no confusing instructions or mess required. At that point, you can keep your phone on the stock ROM. Rooting does not change your ROM, it just turns the security off so that you have the freedom to do so.
There are many really nice ROMs out there and kernels that will provide better performance and substantially improved battery life.
It's at least worth the research, even if you stick with stock.

totalanonymity said:
Unrevoked will do a lovely job for you, no confusing instructions or mess required. At that point, you can keep your phone on the stock ROM. Rooting does not change your ROM, it just turns the security off so that you have the freedom to do so.
There are many really nice ROMs out there and kernels that will provide better performance and substantially improved battery life.
It's at least worth the research, even if you stick with stock.
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Will I be able to update my phone through sprint (new versions of android when it comes out officially) if I root this way? I appreciate all of you guys. I really do.
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VENOMENON_24 said:
Will I be able to update my phone through sprint (new versions of android when it comes out officially) if I root this way? I appreciate all of you guys. I really do.
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You will not be able to accept OTA updates from Sprint while rooted, at risk of losing root, perhaps permanently until someone finds another workaround to exploit.
Most people just wait until their favorite ROM developer releases the new Sprint base.

[Q] Dinc rooting general questions

Alright so this is my first ever post on xda. I recently upgraded from a HTC Eris to the Dinc. When I had my Eris, I rooted it and had a general understanding of what roms were and how they worked. I also was able to understand overclocking and flashing different "packages" if you will to allow my phone to do different things. For example I used to use xtrsense Rom on my Eris which required running gscripts to change overclock amounts instead of using setcpu. So I have a very basic understanding of how these things work. when I upgraded to my Dinc, the first thing I looked into was rooting. I have been doing some research and have come to the conclusion that a Dinc root is a lot more detailed than an Eris root. I've been getting confused because it appears that there are a lot more features that can change. What I mean by this is there are roms, radio roms, and kernels. Now, while I may know the names for different aspects of the OS, I do not fully understand what all of the different parts of a root include. Basically, what I'm getting at here is I would really appreciate if someone could give me a general overview of the different aspects of Dinc post root goodies such as roms etc....I know how to root and I've already done enough research on unrevoked to use it, I just need someone to clear up what I'm going to be looking forward to after I root, and more importantly, what it all means and how I would use it. I appreciate any answers in advance and thank you guys for your patience.
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First off, welcome to xda.Basically you open almost endless combinations. I've not changed my radio so I can't really comment on that. Kernels vary by device. Some phones handle OC kernels very well but you sacrifice some battery life. I personally use heyitslou #8. Works great on my phone. As far as roms are concerned, they can get overwhelming. There are evo roms, evo hybrid roms, stock highly moddable inc roms and built from source roms. Within those you have straight sense, gingerbread with sense, AOSP gingerbread, etc. You see where I'm going? And that's all before you get to themes. And if you don't like any of the dozens of options that you can find in five minutes or less, with pretty basic understanding of adb, 7zip, and photoshop or gimp, you can manipulate and combine multiple looks into something truly unique. And with evo hybrid type roms a lot of the themes and theme elements for the evo will work on the incredible also. Actually a lot of the really good mods are from the evo that our wonderful devs have incorporated into the inc roms. Hope this helps a little.
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That was very helpful however I'm looking more for someone to try and give me a brief description of what all different aspects and features I'm going to have to deal with once I flash....to put this simply, am I able to root and flash a new rooted Rom and be done with modding and have all root capabilities? And a further question, where does my UI come from once I root. Will flashing a new Rom change my UI it does that have something to do with kernels. I'm sorry guys I'm just still tryin to learn some stuff here. Thanks for your prompt reply and I really hope someone will be able to help me with these answers
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Okay. So once you run unrevoked on your phone you will have root access along with security being turned off. This will give you all of the files needed. Flashing new radios and kernels is not necessary unless called for by whichever rom you choose. Most roms will have what the dev feels is the most stable kernel included. So for example, you decide heyitslou redemption rom looks good. Once downloaded and flashed through recovery, you don't have to do anything. The current radio on the stock inc is fine. The kernel will be replaced with the one from the rom.
The UI will be described in the roms op. Like I said, some are stock sense based, some are source builds like CM7 and evervolv. We're starting to see ports from the desire hd etc. Just make sure to do your homework before flashing anything. And I can't stress enough the importance of making backups. Backups are your best friend.
As a side note. BE CAREFUL WITH RADIOS. It's one of the easiest ways to brick a phone. If everything works, don't mess with the radio until you fully know why.
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Alright that was a great answer lol thanks for your patience....on a side note: I noticed you said that once I run unrevoked security will be turned off. I've been reading everywhere about "s-off" and"s-on", but no source provides a good explanation as to what it means. Any input? From my understanding it seems as if its pretty much the "switch" if you will that grants "admin access" to the Droid. Am I correct and what other information can you provide me with? Thanks again
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In a nutshell, it "fully" unlocks the phone. Read this.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/
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Right thanks for the link....one last question here and ill probably be outta your hair what's clockworkmod. Like what is it what does it do and how does it work?
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Clockwork is the recovery you will have once rooted. It replaces the stock recovery. This is where all of the flashing and backing up is done. Most importantly is the backup function. Once you see it it's pretty self explanatory. It allows for wiping data and cache partitions, mounting other partitions.
And your not "in my hair". Lol. We are a pretty helpful group here. If you don't ask how will you know? Dont hesitate to ask.
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Also, just finished that article you linked me to. So my new understanding is s-off essentially is the root. Essentially s-off means that the part of your phone keeping you out of the system files is disabled?
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Sort of. We had root long before we had s off. It allows for more access to the phone from the phone itself without the need to use adb. Also allows for changing things like splash screen images.
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So essentially rooting and s-off on a Dinc would be the same as a plain old Eris root as far as the user end of the software? And any input on clockworkmod and what it does and is
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Look a couple of posts up.
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Well thanks for all your help
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You're welcome.
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I meant a couple of posts up in this post. I reread and it sounded rude on my part.
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Alright just got done running unrevoked. Haven't bothered with forever yet I haven't figured out if its worth it. Any input on forever? And after my root I'm real happy. I didn't even catch what you said about clockwork earlier on and said oh well and rooted anyway. As soon as I saw it though I realized it was the same thing as nandroid on my Eris. So that's all cleared up. After seeing everything post root I realized it isn't too much different than my Eris at all. All of your guidance was extremely appreciated and you were pretty much the straw that broke the camels back on my root. I really appreciate all of your help and I'm glad that there's friendly people on here willing to help and if there's anything I can do for ya even though as far as dev goes I'm clueless let me know. Thanks again man. Forums need people like you to make this stuff simpler.
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You're most likely S-OFF now anyways if you ran the latest unrevoked. Unless you can turn that off during the installation.
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Ya I got my problems all cleared up I'm good to go. Thanks guys
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Should be smooth sailing from here. And once again, you're welcome.
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New Epic user root ?

What is the best rom to root? I just got my epic yesterday and I want to root using the latest rom that everyone is really raving about. Thanks in advance!
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All roms are rooted
First you root your phone then you can install a custom rom
Ruins don't root your phone u do that through a one click rooter you find in development stickies
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bankaisnake said:
What is the best rom to root? I just got my epic yesterday and I want to root using the latest rom that everyone is really raving about. Thanks in advance!
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Follow the instructions in the top of the threads (stickies) on how to root your phone. Then follow the instructions included for the ROM you choose. Most require you to convert your file system to EXT4 and be on Clockwork Mod 3.0.0.6. So read carefully and post your questions here in the Q&A section.
Do you BONSAI?

Its definitely a big pond to jump into. Rooting and flashing ROMS, to say the least can become an addiction. I have been lurking XDA for a short time now. Owned my epic for about a month until i started making my own changes and trying different ROMs ( when FROYO {2.2} updated my phone began to SUCK so off I went; cannon ball into the pond) one of the biggest helps to me was youtube and the "epic cookbook" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967014.... definitely a HUGE help. also simple problems have simple answers. Many others have asked and can be answered with the search field. After you jump in and have a succesful root & flash you will have wondered why you waited. I am no "pro" but am willing to help if needed. Good luck
As for the best.... oneclickroot either 2.5 or 3.0 are wonderful. however i have had much more luck with 3.0 running ext4. Now asking which ROM is better is like asking which car is best, all types of answers. Really depends on what you want and your "taste"

Yes thanks for your replies. I may have not asked my question correctly. I came from the Hero and I rooted that phone till it couldn't be rooted anymore! I'm just on the Epic now and not sure where to begin and where the best rom I should flash. Hero had cyn 2-.2 and thought about flashing gingerbread but just decided to upgrade to the Epic. I'll check around XDA in the stickies.. thx for your replies and further advice is surely appreciated!
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Rooting etc.

I'm coming from an Android powered HD2 so I am no newbie, but is rooting and flashing ROMS on the Evo just as easy? Any help is appreciated. A starting point would nice. Thanks.
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SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
I'm coming from an Android powered HD2 so I am no newbie, but is rooting and flashing ROMS on the Evo just as easy? Any help is appreciated. A starting point would nice. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059686 check out my guide man hope it helps it's easy as pie.

Lots of good info in the thread below, it's also stickied and at the top of this section if you ever need to find it again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204

man flashing roms on evo is so easy, i tried to flash a rom not so long ago while i was at a stop light the other day and it took more for the light to go back to green than the phone to flash, you'll love it

I came from the Palm Pre and I was a little nervous at first. And slightly confused by the different lingo. But to be honest, rooted and flashing your Evo is extremely easy.
I use this guide every time (I root friends phones). I kinda giggle at how easy it is, and how smart they think I am haha.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
Best of luck.

SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
I'm coming from an Android powered HD2 so I am no newbie, but is rooting and flashing ROMS on the Evo just as easy? Any help is appreciated. A starting point would nice. Thanks.
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If you go my route on rooting if you screw your phone up or need to unroot its easy as pie some rooting processes are a pain in the butt to unroot check it out .

Noob questions about rooting

I am tempted to root my phone and use the Juggernaut ROM is there any negative side effects from doing this? Btw I am a complete Noob and I have never rooted before. I am not a technical Noob at all though (I have been overclocking Pc's since 2006) so is it easy and painless to do? And can you completely go back if you don't like it? Thanks
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I was afraid of rooting mine at first too but it was very painless and easy. You can go back to stock if you wanted as well for warranty claims. Check the development section for more Info. You'd want to root yours via the Odin method. Very easy just follow every. Single. Step. Carefully.
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Here ya go.. might answer some of your questions.
http://www.vikitech.com/5591/pros-cons-rooting-android-phone

gooface said:
I am tempted to root my phone and use the Juggernaut ROM is there any negative side effects from doing this? Btw I am a complete Noob and I have never rooted before. I am not a technical Noob at all though (I have been overclocking Pc's since 2006) so is it easy and painless to do? And can you completely go back if you don't like it? Thanks
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You can completely revert the phone to stock with the odin program. Tmobil / samsung / asurion mobile reinsurance (the phone insurance replacement comp) wont be able to tell you were running custom roms or overclocking
Root away. just be sure to make a cwm backup before deleting or changing anything with programs like titanium backup.
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