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I have an HTC Mogul and am interested in a low-cost GPS solution. I am looking at the Holux M-1000, M-1200 and GPSlim 240, but want to know what my mapping/softeware options are without spending another $150 on a program like TomTom.
I understand Google and Windows Live have mapping software, and I currently have GoogleMaps on my PPC. Can anyone who uses these, or any other freeware share what the experience is like?
GoogleMaps' site says it has these features:
You Are Here (I know where I am, so this is no big deal) Where's the nearest... cup of coffee, late night pizza or last-minute bouquet? (OK - maybe this is useful)
Is there traffic up ahead? See it so you can avoid it. (I live in Vermont - there is NO traffic!)
How do I get there from where I am? Type your destination and away you go. (Not very detailed here, is it? So let's say your GPS/GMaps automatically tells you where you are. You type in where you want to go and get directions.
On a system like TomTom, I am assuming you are looking at a map that shows where you are, and says "Turn right in 100 ft. on Main Street" and shows a right-hand arrow. Once you have done this, the screen would say "Drive 6 miles" or something like that.
So, my question is, does Google do this? Does it in any way tell you what you need to do next based on you location and the directions to where you are going? Or does it just display your location as a point on a map, and it is up to you to figure out what and when to do? If so, is anyone using this and finding it useful, or a half-assed navigation solution?
Thanks,
BB
try google navigator 2.4 at pdafun.net it is not free though which is the same with google maps, you pay for network traffic.
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Looks Interesting
Have you used this? $60 is way cheaper than $150 for TomTom and I like the satellite view.
GPS...
I use a Holux 1000 and it works great with my Wizard with Live and Gmaps. Havn't tried a "turn-by-turn voice app" yet such as Tom-Tom.
Also, you need to give Beeline gps a try. Its a pretty cool app if you are into navigation.
Tried Google navigator (pdafun.net). IMO, seems a little buggy but I only tried it for about 10 minutes.
They will probably get the same love letter from Google that MGMaps did for content violations. ;-)
http://www.mgmaps.com/news.php?item=136
Try the Navibe GB735, it works great for me...
http://shop.treonauts.com/content/accessories/10-95--2230.htm
I have the Navibe GB735 Bluetooth GPS reciever that I got for my Treo 700wx during a trip to St. Louis, Chicago and Tulsa last September. I wrote a review of it here (http://forum.treonauts.com/palm-smartphones/treo-700w-wx/5919-gps-basics-help.html) under my other name (NavyStore). I still use it for work and just running around town with the Google Mobile Maps software.
Since I was upgraded to the xv6800 (Titan/Mogul) last week, I've used it twice and saw no changes. I have unlimited data w/ Verizon (but would love detailed instructions on how to get TomTom software I got to work on my phone) so it works fine as long as it holds a signal. Although, it does crash when VZW drops the data connection...
Hope these help some.
google maps does not do vocal turn by turn or a 3d view
it does do directions and what i use it for........ you can copy addresses from IE and paste them into google maps...
I use destinator 7 as my turn by turn GPS software and it is very good, but does not allow you to paste addresses into the fields... which mean i have to memorize or write the address down when i enter it...
i use both and can say, you can get by with only using google maps but it is not a turn by turn GPS software
I use my GPSlim 236 with Windows Live Search on a regular basis. Directions are a snap as long as you have unlimited data as well as a little patience in setting it up. I like the traffic feature as well here in Atlanta. You do get a little beep before a turn, but no voice. The view is not all that specatcular with the small screen of my Wizard but sufficient nevertheless. The best part is the SMS/email of directions and phone integration if you need to call a location.
As for Google Maps, I like it a little less, but it's not a bad program either. Personal preference.
I was using google maps for a while but then notices it would lose the GPS signal connection quickly. I tried all the different baud's and nothing worked. I did some searching on here and found that the problem seemed to be with google maps time out conditions. They are to short. So, I started using Live Search. I like it just as mich as google maps. It's actually a but easier to get to and from directions entered in for routing since you can browse to contacts for directions. The only issue I have now is that whenever I do a to and from directions route, Live Search always puts me at a previously entered destination. Does anyone know of a cache delete or something like that in Live Search? Anyone ever have this issue? I am using these apps. on an AT&T Tilt.
the Holux MX 1000 is a good deal if you dont mind the size ( well, as big as a zippo but a lil thicker ) . It hooks up quick ( I would say 10-20 sec , cold start ) and very stable. You can stick it into your key chain and you are ready to go.
For map, I prefer live search over Google map .
I've been using Live Search and love it when it works. The turn by turn is great. I wish it spoke, but it does at least beep. It saved me this past weekend lost in a strange city. Awesome. However, it seems to make my device (Tilt) unstable. I need to soft reset regularly after using it and I seem to lose my GPS signal easily. I don't know if this is my tilt, or the software, but i will freeze up for 3 minutes or so before it get moving again (which it does, most of the time!). As I said, when it works, it's awesome, as good as a full featured GPS solution. But I'm not sure it's wholly stable?
Yea, Live Search is really the way to go. It has much tighter integration with Windows Mobile and the "Speak your destination/search" is absolutely the best. Plus it has turn-by-turn unlike Google Maps. I have Tom Tom also on my phone, but when I'm searching for a location, Live Search wins for ease of use.
Have you tried nav4all??
Hi,
Just wondered if anyone has tried Nav4all on their devices?
What do you guys think?
Works great with my Tytn and blue tooth gps key-ring! (Freedom 2000)
Frogger
LiveSearch has no coverage for me (Belgium)...
On my TyTN (with Holux GPSlim 236), I have used
Smart2go: offline maps, nice 3D view, but no active navigation (doesn't seem to update gps position).
Google mobile: can determine rough location based on gsm cell, no active navigation
AmazeGPS: only have been able to test the alpha release, so it wasn't very stable; screenshots look interesting
Nav4All: good vocal directions, very basic but quite functional system
I have been searching for the free Navigon Mobile Navigation 6: the java version was free, but is no longer available on their site for download... (dunno if it still works though)
As my dataplan is on a different sim card, I mostly use my old phone (Nokia 6260) for data stuff (have it set up as external modem on my TyTN !). The upside is that I can use it as a standalone navigation; however I only managed to use Nav4All, and it seemed to loose its GPRS connection every now and then...
Haven't tested it enough on the TyTn to see if I get the same behaviour there.
Jörg
Part of my upgrade from orange was free orange maps. Obviously had no need for it with android by decided to check it out.
What surprised me is that its actually a workable sat nav, fully voice guided and it orientates itself via the compass too, same as google navigation (only slower as the accuracy of google navigation is better)
My main point is that why can only orange do this on wp7 and no one else?
Some other carriers do it. They say its officially coming with Mango.
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Some other carriers do it. They say its officially coming with Mango.
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I did read that this morning and im sure with nokias help will be very good. I was just wondering why orange and some other carriers have got apps that do it, yet theres no third party apps that do it properly.
Look for Drive on in the marketplace... i think it may support europe. It's still beta but does turn by turn and voice.
You really need on board storage for pan EU use
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Drive on is horrible. There is no landscape, no compass orientation, the voice is so low, you need to hold it to your head to hear it, the voice is unintelligible, the voice gives the next turn too early, the Speedo does not work, no 3d, there is no search by name (you can'tsearch for a business name, you must enter an address.
honestly, bing maps is better than drive on.
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sorry about that. On the plus side, it's free. It is in beta, so maybe these problems will be sorted out.
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Anyone try the new "Turn by Turn Navigation" app (released 26 May 2011)? I just downloaded the trial version. I am planning to give it a go on my way home tonight. Looks promissing!
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Anyone try the new "Turn by Turn Navigation" app (released 26 May 2011)? I just downloaded the trial version. I am planning to give it a go on my way home tonight. Looks promissing!
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So far has the cleanest UI for any of the nav Apps. A - B is still my favorite but Morton (the developer) pulled it from the marketplace in lue of copyright stuff...
A - B had 3D view.... I dont know why but for some reason I am hung up on that. Before my Samsung Focus I had the Touch Pro 2 and was running tomtom and then also would use android on it from time to time. I LOVE Google Navigator. That's sort of what A-B reminded me of with the 3d view using the sat/aerial view
I've spoken with the developers of Drive on, Silver Nav and Turn by Turn Nav and they all say 3d view WILL be implemented just not for at least 3 to 4 months. Pretty much right along with Mango. I dont know anything about coding but if an app that has one guy alone working on it could impliment it how could a team of developers working on these other apps not. Unless, again its some copyright stuff which I wouldnt be suprised of.
Just my 2 cents. Right now turn by turn is the best available on the market.
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Anyone try the new "Turn by Turn Navigation" app (released 26 May 2011)? I just downloaded the trial version. I am planning to give it a go on my way home tonight. Looks promissing!
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I tried "Turn by Turn" by GPS Tuner and found it fantastic.
The UI is clean and polished.
Voice is loud (English only)
The app is really reliable and fast.
You shall not hesitate.
Turn By Turn = WIN!
Just downloaded the trial 'Turn By Turn' and it works in Australia... The UI is the most polished of all the navs I've seen for WP7 and is WP7 worthy...
After a minute of playing around I committed and bought it...
Turn by Tirn
Turn by Turn is great. Voice is nice and loud and I find it to be accurate. I have also tried Silver Navigator and find it to be OK. I have now loaded the trial version of GPS Voice Navigation and will be trying it today.
I'll be interested to know how GPS Voice Nav works for you. I tried it yesterday, and it had some real problems (I described them in the other thread).
GPS Voice
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I'll be interested to know how GPS Voice Nav works for you. I tried it yesterday, and it had some real problems (I described them in the other thread).
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OK tried GPS Voice Navigation and had some issues. Alerts are given in feet rather than tenths of a mile. I can't sit there and try to determine how far 2360 feet is. It also tells me to "turn" about 50 feet before the turn. These are two behaviors that are different than a dedicated GPS and NOT an improvement.
Ok,
After one week of use I can say I find Turn-by-Turn Navigation' really great. It works well.
The only bug I notice is the following: when there is a rundabout, it says "At rundabout..." and nothing more, no direction, it does not tell which exit is the right one (?!) Am I the sole one?
I can't find Turn-By-Turn anywhere in the Marketplace. Any help?
Just went onto marketplace then... Turn By Turn is now at the top of the 'Navigation' section so you shouldn't even have to search...
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I can't find Turn-By-Turn anywhere in the Marketplace. Any help?
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Turn by Turn Navigation is here:
http://social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=b452aafb-a683-e011-986b-78e7d1fa76f8
sounds ridiculous but i just updated my focus to mango on monday. for the longest time my home pc would not update it, kept giving different error codes each time. i had to replace my original phone with an ATT refurbished one and so i just assumed in the refurbishing process this "new" phone was FUBAR with updates. anyway someone recommended trying another PC, so i used my netbook to no avail and then my work laptop with great success. mango is awesome!
anyway, i love how bing maps will read directions through bluetooth in my car, but i am a little irritated that it won't continue to read the directions until i get to my destination? it will just read the direction i click on and the one after it, but then say "thank you, goodbye" and will stop giving directions. i have to manually go into bing maps again and click on the direction i want to be read to me. just curious if anyone has gotten it to read all the directions until you get to the new location without touching your phone? i notice you can go through a text message conversation without touching your phone via bluetooth, so it would be nice if you could do that with maps also.
Nope, that is the way it was designed to "work" (despite it being an illegal activity in many areas). There is nothing you can do about it, short of buying a real GPS nav system from the marketplace.
Question, Why wasn't this an issue with WM? As crapy as WM was the Maps app worked flawlessly and makes this new one look like crap. Just trying to understand I guess at to why it wasn't an issue before but it is now. It is kind of dangerous to have to tap and look at the screen to see where your going.
I'm not trying to start an argument but I just like to know exactly what the point of Google Now is.
I've had my GNex for around 4 weeks now and despite me setting up Now correctly (defining home, work etc), it never shows me anything useful. Occasionally it shows me a route to work and a route home but they are totally the worst route that I could take. It never seems to learn any route and if I dare to look at Location History in Google maps, all I see are a bunch of crazy lines that in no way represent where I've actually travelled! It's like someone strapped my Nexus on a bird's back and started shooting at it!
For example, I took a day off yesterday and stayed at home, but late in the day I took my daughter to the shops 3 miles away. Location History says that I travelled 40miles with a bunch of random lines all over the map!
The weather has only ever popped up once in the last few weeks and vanished a couple of minutes later.
It never shows anything of any interest anywhere I go (ok, this may be where I live )
Is this a UK thing or is Google Now genuinely useless and a work-in-progress?
I'm using a nexus 7 and personally I love Google now, I have no trouble with it and weather is fine
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Seems like you might have your GPS off. That kind of erratic behavior as far as location goes make me think it's only going by cell towers/WiFi hotspots, which is not entirely accurate.
I will admit though, it's not as informational as I thought it would be, but it will improve with time. I do have a schedule on my phone for work, and every single instance is named "Work". Because of this, it calculates how long of a commute I should expect, and let's me know what time I need to leave by.
It also displays my favorite NFL team's next game about 2 days in advanced, and displays the score for the rest of the day the day of the game.
It also always displays restaurants near me, but I've never really used that feature.
95% agree. I'm in UK too and cannot see the value yet.
The weather does pop up pretty often, say twice a day?
The travel reports are ok. When my alarm goes off for work Now shows my route and time which is helpful for me, but could live without.
I searched for a restaurant recently and Now popped up with a travel card, directions and time. That was cool.
But the question is; where is Google going with Now? Can we expect more great development in the near future?
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i think outside us google now is crap. hope they introduce more services with android 4.2.
Mine is pretty useful, even if just for the traffic info between home and work. The weather info isn't as useful as I typically have weather on my homescreen as a widget. But I have Google Now display the local Baseball and Football team scores. I don't follow sports much but I do like the information.
Honestly I don't use mine as much either. I can't seem to make it talk anymore. Most results are just google results. Seems like when I had it setup from the original leaked JB rom, every response was spoken.
Granted I still use the search feature like I always have to find local restaurants and phone numbers, etc.
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Seems like you might have your GPS off. That kind of erratic behavior as far as location goes make me think it's only going by cell towers/WiFi hotspots, which is not entirely accurate.
I will admit though, it's not as informational as I thought it would be, but it will improve with time. I do have a schedule on my phone for work, and every single instance is named "Work". Because of this, it calculates how long of a commute I should expect, and let's me know what time I need to leave by.
It also displays my favorite NFL team's next game about 2 days in advanced, and displays the score for the rest of the day the day of the game.
It also always displays restaurants near me, but I've never really used that feature.
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Actually, my GPS is on all the time!
For weather, try checking the settings? Mine is set to show in the morning and evening and they always show up fine. It is not that useful for me since I already have weather widgets on my home screen but oh well.
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You sure your not using apple maps?
Maybe it is a regional/country-specific thing? I'm located in the US near Boston and it works pretty well for me.
I use it often because it'll show me my commute to work when I'm home, my commute to home a few hours before I leave work, movies on Fridays/Saturdays/Sundays, places I've searched for and how long it'll take to get there (restaurants, shops, etc.), weather warnings for my area, flight information (I don't fly often but experienced this recently, very cool), restaurant recommendations, score updates for the teams I follow, and my next calendar event and how long it'll take to get there if there's an address attached. Public transit directions (subway, bus) will also show up when I'm walking around Boston.
I noticed over the last month or so that Google Now became "better" than it was before. I'm not sure if it's because I've been checking into places I eat at or visit but now it's giving me 4-6 recommendations on average. Maybe try checking into more places? I only share my checkins with close family on Latitude if you're not comfortable with doing that.
If you want to get a feel for a really in-your-face Google Now experience, I recently went on a trip to New York City, Las Vegas, and Los Angeles and my Google Now exploded. I attached some screenshots to show you!
Google Now doesn't even recognize what I'm saying, its useless for me
Google Now always recognizes my voice and has relevant information for weather and traffic for me, it only took about a month to learn my travel habits. The only thing I am unhappy with GN is it doesn't know SEC scores/games/teams, Siri does.
Now works for me in the UK, but only when it feels like it. Cards randomly disappear and the GPS drain, for me, is not a decent tradeoff. I do use it for routing to recently searched addresses so that all well and good, nut constantly polling for weather and other travel alerts is a no go for me. It needs IMO to be opened up to devs so BBC and sky news can be sent to it, then it would be worthwhile. Apart from that I use seperate widgets for everything.
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Google now is cool, but I found it, in combination with location services to be a huge battery hog.
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I am in the US and find it basically useless. However, I think part of that has a lot to do with what you want to get out if it.
The maps usually showed me the worst way to get to work or not up-to-date weather info.
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only use it for weather and set the alarm, its basically a lazy way to do things on your phone/tablet. it does work alot faster than the one on the iphone(siri)
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I don't use Google Now, just not worth the battery drain of location always being on.
Google Now is OK, but I'm having the same issue with location history
Generally, I find Google Now to be fine, but when I look at location history, I see the same symptoms as you. It seems to me that at times, it thinks that it is at home while I'm out. The location history map online really shows what's happening.
I do disable WiFi when I'm not near a known hotspot that I use (Tasker, using Cell Near to enable and when WiFi connected to populate the list), and I'm wondering if that might be related. I'll try leaving WiFi on to see what happens.
Does anyone know how to tell where the location data is coming from? I'm thinking of rerolling my own with Tasker, based on Cell ID when not charging if this doesn't get fixed soon.
Rick
Homey said:
I'm not trying to start an argument but I just like to know exactly what the point of Google Now is.
I've had my GNex for around 4 weeks now and despite me setting up Now correctly (defining home, work etc), it never shows me anything useful. Occasionally it shows me a route to work and a route home but they are totally the worst route that I could take. It never seems to learn any route and if I dare to look at Location History in Google maps, all I see are a bunch of crazy lines that in no way represent where I've actually travelled! It's like someone strapped my Nexus on a bird's back and started shooting at it!
For example, I took a day off yesterday and stayed at home, but late in the day I took my daughter to the shops 3 miles away. Location History says that I travelled 40miles with a bunch of random lines all over the map!
The weather has only ever popped up once in the last few weeks and vanished a couple of minutes later.
It never shows anything of any interest anywhere I go (ok, this may be where I live )
Is this a UK thing or is Google Now genuinely useless and a work-in-progress?
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I forgot to mention - this is on a Galaxy Note II. I know I'm in the wrong forum, but thought it was interesting that the issue was the same.
rickafterburner said:
Generally, I find Google Now to be fine, but when I look at location history, I see the same symptoms as you. It seems to me that at times, it thinks that it is at home while I'm out. The location history map online really shows what's happening.
I do disable WiFi when I'm not near a known hotspot that I use (Tasker, using Cell Near to enable and when WiFi connected to populate the list), and I'm wondering if that might be related. I'll try leaving WiFi on to see what happens.
Does anyone know how to tell where the location data is coming from? I'm thinking of rerolling my own with Tasker, based on Cell ID when not charging if this doesn't get fixed soon.
Rick
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You sure your not using apple maps?
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hehahahahahahah...
holy ****.. what a blow..:laugh:
Today is one of the days per year that I have a full Saturday without my family around to bug me. As I sit here wasting my day trying to figure out how to "have it all", I have to "vent". I don't understand why this is so difficult. It's not about the money, I would write a check with several zeros if someone could find a solution for me. All I want, is a phone that Google and Apple can't track, but is still functional for my needs.
LineageOS with Micro is ALMOST that solution. But, every day something doesn't work like it should. I need to be able to schedule texts and send MMS messages that don't sacrafice quality. What do you user for that? Google Messages. Well, I don't want to sign into Google so none of those features work. In fact, even if I do sign in, none of those features work. Ok, I'll try Textra. Nope. Won't work with MicroG because it "needs google service". I have tried around a dozen messaging apps, but either they don't schedule texts or they don't send MMS.
I drive 1,000s of miles for work in different vehicles in unfamiliar areas. I listen to many podcasts and take lots of phone calls on the road. So, given the amount of travel and variation of vehicles I drive, having a physcial GPS or using a phone mount isn't practical. Using my phone as a handheld GPS isn't smart. What's left? Android Auto. Ok, I've tried using a separate phone for Android Auto, but then phone calls don't come through. I've almost crashed trying to juggle those.
What am I working on today? I've been using Brave Browser, but I also use 1password. 1password functionality is broken on 90% of the sites I visit on Brave, so I downloaded Firefox. 1password works great, but my corporate security app routes everything from Firefox through itself, and breaks everything. It doesn't happen with Brave and I can't delete my work app. So Brave wins that battle.
So I thought -- why don't I just install LinesageOS with gapps, create a brand new google account to login with, and never use that google ID anywhere else. But after some research and asking on different message boards, THAT doesn't work either.
At this point, how does someone in my shoes not just say f#*k it, you win Google/Apple, and go back to a stock OS?
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have to "vent"
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Kinda know this feeling.
faknit said:
want, is a phone that Google and Apple can't track
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How about Librem? Or at least iodeOS?
faknit said:
Google Messages
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Why in the 1st place?
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What's left? Android Auto
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Well, other than that, perhaps Osmand?
faknit said:
you win Google/Apple, and go back to a stock OS?
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NO WAY, over my dad's cat!
I do understand and share your frustration but giving up is not a good choice here.
Sometimes less is more, I don't use MicroG at all and people keep pestering me since years to get Whatsapp, Signal, Threema, Telegram, Slack, Discord and all that ****. Nah, stop being stupid and just keep using email, SMS or jabber.
Unless another Noah posts free tickets for Ark 2 on whatsapp, I am perfectly fine, I guess
A little late on my reply! Figured I'd still throw this out there.
I can't use Librem & iodeOS because of work requirements. I have to use their applications for email/messaging etc. Unfortunately the apps also detect/block Custom ROMs so I have no choice but to root so I can use magisk.
Literally the only reason I want Google Messages (which, for what I want requires chat features enabled) is to schedule messages without losing other functionality. QKSMS works great, but you can't share videos. Several others that are recommended won't work without Google services. There was one that worked really well but crashed every couple hours and would only work after uninstalling.
Android Auto, I could care less which application I use TBH, but nothing else will do what I need. I need the map to display on the cars screen so I'm not staring at my phone. A second phone isn't an option because 1. I'd lose it 2. Work won't pay for a phone because they suck and I can't afford 2 plans. Same excuses for a dedicated GPS. A phone mount is difficult because of the sheer variety of vehicles I drive, and I usually don't know what I'll be driving. So I'd have to take several styles of mount on every trip.
All that said --- I vented and I feel better. I'm just dealing with the problems.
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Work won't pay for a phone because they suck and I can't afford 2 plans
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That sounds familiar. A previous company insisted on iphone which I despised but I tried anyway for a month, ever since I hate everything crapple even more
But wait, can't solve issue 1... issue 2: Hotspot on company phone? Muahahahaaa