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Look, trust me....I HATE to be this guy. Making a post about needing to get help with GPS, because I know there are a million resources out there. Well, I have read the million resources, and guess what...I still have a phone w/o GPS. I will wait 10 minutes, 30 minutes....can't even see one satellite, much less get a lock.
So, I have a XV6900 with NO DATA PLAN, so aGPS is out the window, so there's no need to do this...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
I have done all the steps here about three times over, and followed the instructions perfectly wit no results...
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
I used to have a TouchPro, and I used to have a Titan, so I have been around the block a few times, and gotten GPS working with one try on those old devices, however, now I have a piece of junk XV6900 (got brand new from Verizon last weekend) and it is GPS-dead, no matter what I try (even the SAME steps that work for most other people it seems).
So, please help me get this thing working - new ideas please. Do not recommend those two links above, or stuff like not letting customizations run...that is all child's play stuff that is common sense to do, and I have done them already 3 or 4 times over with no sucessful results.
Thanks everyone.
I did the Wiki thing to with no sucess. THen I did this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533639
Worked for me!
Similarly, I have tried the suggested steps with no success. My next question is how to tell if GPS is enabled? When I use GPS view, I can run a scan and it detects GPS on COM Port 4...does that mean that it is enabled, but I just have a terrible signal so it just isn't hooking up...and my issue is elseware, because it never gets a lock? And like you, I don't have a data plan, so another question is...is the work really worth it? I downloaded maps off of MGMaps, so I have street maps, but if I don't buy a program or use a data connection, is all the reflashing and testing worth the effort? I've worked on this long enough that I'm beginning to think that spending $150 on a seperate GPS unit may be worth it. I'm all for a good challenge, so I may keep at it, but at some point I have to ask the question. Any thoughts?
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Similarly, I have tried the suggested steps with no success. My next question is how to tell if GPS is enabled? When I use GPS view, I can run a scan and it detects GPS on COM Port 4...does that mean that it is enabled, but I just have a terrible signal so it just isn't hooking up...and my issue is elseware, because it never gets a lock? And like you, I don't have a data plan, so another question is...is the work really worth it? I downloaded maps off of MGMaps, so I have street maps, but if I don't buy a program or use a data connection, is all the reflashing and testing worth the effort? I've worked on this long enough that I'm beginning to think that spending $150 on a seperate GPS unit may be worth it. I'm all for a good challenge, so I may keep at it, but at some point I have to ask the question. Any thoughts?
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Well, the TomTom program itself is free, they just charge you for the maps. Yes, the entire USA and Canada maps are upwards of $100, but you can just get it by region to, like Southwest, or Northweast, etc...and thos only cost about $20
I have TomTom with all the USA/Canada maps, and that way no data connection is required. In my opinion, programs that use the data connection like Google Maps are worthless...I mean why wants their bandwidth being maxed out the entire time they are driving or using their GPS just to download map images? Makes more sense to use a program that has everything referenced on a SD card if you ask me, like TomTom does
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jadesdan said:
I did the Wiki thing to with no sucess. THen I did this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533639
Worked for me!
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but do you have a data plan?
i had the same problem as you people. try different software. the only thing that works for me without data is IGO8, after i load it and it locks i can switch to any software that has maps built in.
crobs808 said:
Look, trust me....I HATE to be this guy. Making a post about needing to get help with GPS, because I know there are a million resources out there. Well, I have read the million resources, and guess what...I still have a phone w/o GPS. I will wait 10 minutes, 30 minutes....can't even see one satellite, much less get a lock.
So, I have a XV6900 with NO DATA PLAN, so aGPS is out the window, so there's no need to do this...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
I have done all the steps here about three times over, and followed the instructions perfectly wit no results...
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
I used to have a TouchPro, and I used to have a Titan, so I have been around the block a few times, and gotten GPS working with one try on those old devices, however, now I have a piece of junk XV6900 (got brand new from Verizon last weekend) and it is GPS-dead, no matter what I try (even the SAME steps that work for most other people it seems).
So, please help me get this thing working - new ideas please. Do not recommend those two links above, or stuff like not letting customizations run...that is all child's play stuff that is common sense to do, and I have done them already 3 or 4 times over with no sucessful results.
Thanks everyone.
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have tried the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533639
One thing to check is you device info. My PRI Version is 1.37_002. Saw a thread where someone had higher PRI version & that might be an issue. I can't find the thread at the moment.
Are you using a custom ROM? I recommend NFSFAN's.
WORKING with PRI 2.01_002
jadesse said:
have tried the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533639
One thing to check is you device info. My PRI Version is 1.37_002. Saw a thread where someone had higher PRI version & that might be an issue. I can't find the thread at the moment.
Are you using a custom ROM? I recommend NFSFAN's.
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I ended up getting everything working right off the bat once I exchanged my XV6900 for a new one. I did the EXACT same steps, so it was the old phone causing issues.
Now, on this new one I have...
PRI: 2.01_002
PRL: 58002
Radio: 3.42.30
ROM: NFSFAN 1.15 VZW (WM6.1)
I get GPS locks anywhere from 30 seconds to 60 seconds. I do NOT have to prime the GPS, I just start TomTom, and it sees my internal GPS just fine
-C
I clean installed (RAR file) the Blazn build w/ sound a couple of days ago. Now I having a lot more stability issues and Navigation freezes up every time I open it. I have searched through google and on here, and I see people with the same problems with the new build but no solutions or acknowledgement that multiple users are having issues like this. Here is what I did.
I go into google maps to insure I have a GPS fix. It finds me within 2 meters or so. I then go into navigation. It doesn't give me the location error because I have a GPS lock. I then type in the address I want to go to. I have the bar at the bottoms saying "Getting GPS" or something like that. In the middle of the screen it has the "getting directions" or whatever it says, but the little spinning circle animation freezes up. If I click to try to get to the menu. Android tells me it is not responding and I can Force Close or Wait. I force close. Of course Android opens it back up. I then hear the first voice prompt of where to go on my directions. When I click on Navigation to get back into it. It shows me the next turn, but freezes up again. This will go on forever until I force maps and navigation to close manually for good by going into settings and force stopping the processes.
I thought maybe it was the Blazn build, so I renamed the boot directory to something else and clean installed (using the RAR file) the stock build. While it is more stable and I don't get as many random crashes of apps and processes, I still get the same problem with Navigation.
I also have tried to format and attempted to clean install both builds and still have the same problem.
Is there any Sprint customer able to get navigation to work and not crash? I am thinking this is a CDMA/Sprint problem only, and it has something to do with the app accessing the sound, or at least that is my hypothesis, because it was working in all prior builds up to this one.
Any suggestions or thoughts?
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I clean installed (RAR file) the Blazn build w/ sound a couple of days ago. Now I having a lot more stability issues and Navigation freezes up every time I open it. I have searched through google and on here, and I see people with the same problems with the new build but now solutions or acknowledgement that multiple users are having issues like this. Here is what I do.
I go into google maps to insure I have a GPS fix. It finds me within 2 meters or so. I then go into navigation. It doesn't give me the location error because I have a GPS lock. I then type in the address I want to go to. I have the bar at the bottoms saying "Getting GPS" or something like that. In the middle of the screen it has the "getting directions" or whatever it says, but the little spinning circle animation freezes up. If I click to try to get to the menu. Android tells me it is not responding and I can Force Close or Wait. I force close. Of course Android opens it back up. I then here the first voice prompt of where to go on my directions. When I click on Navigation to get back into it. It shows me the next turn, but freezes up again. This will go on forever until I force maps and navigation to close manually for good by going into settings and force stopping the processes.
I thought maybe it was the Blazn build, so I renamed the boot directory to something else and clean installed (using the RAR file) the stock build. While it is more stable and I don't get as many random crashes of apps and processes, I still get the same problem with Navigation.
I also have tried to format and attempted to clean install both builds and still have the same problem.
Is there any Sprint customer able to get navigation to work and not crash? I am thinking this is a CDMA/Sprint problem only, and it has something to do with the app accessing the sound, or at least that is my hypothesis, because it was working in all prior builds up to this one.
Any suggestions or thoughts?
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remember this is a work in progress still. No need to freak out.
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remember this is a work in progress still. No need to freak out.
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I love you guys... I have lurked here for months and xda-developers for years. I love how you post toward people that don't post all the time. You treat them like idiots, crazy people or whiners.
I am not freaking out. I am not a newb. Is this not the place to post problems with the xandroid project? I am posting a problem that I have not seen posted on here before. I am not complaining about the usual stuff that still isn't working. I understand it is a work in progress. I was just posting a new problem that has come up since the sound started working. I did this so that potential programmers will see it, and to also see and get feedback on whether other Sprint users or other carrier's users are having the same problem, or if theirs is working fine.
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I love you guys... I have lurked here for months and xda-developers for years. I love how you post toward people that don't post all the time. You treat them like idiots are crazy people.
I am not freaking out. I am not a newb. Is this not the place to post problems with the xandroid project? I am posting a problem that I have not seen posted on here before. I am not complaining about the usual stuff that still isn't working. I understand it is a work in progress. I was just posting a new problem that has come up since the sound started working. I did this so that potential programmers will see it, and to also see and get feedback on whether other Sprint users or other carrier's users are having the same problem, or if theirs is working fine.
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Thats what we are known for .. but think about this.. where would the dev process be without us ? lol ..So sorry for treating you like one of the crazies ..
My advice is to hit up PPC geeks since most of the cdma community is there. Fyi, im not involved with xdandroid. Just with the kernel development and Those have really nothing to do with one another. However we do cross paths from time to time. Also dont be afraid to joint the irc chat for xdandroid. People there will be able to give you a better idea of whats up.
$39.99, no trial. Let's just say at least it's a step forward.
http://www.wpcentral.com/garmin-streetpilot-hits-marketplace
...lets hope the European version will follow soon...
Too bad you can't download the full maps, though. You need to download your maps on a "per route" basis.
I am somewhat greatfull that I have t-mobile germany, so I get the Navigon App for "free". Here, I don't need a data volume to navigate.
It's available for the US and Canada.
Is it just a case of a locked API that no one is currently offering a GPS navigation app that has maps pre-loaded?
All these ones that are coming out that need a data connection are pretty useless since i only really use sat-nav out in the sticks where i don't get reception.
I'm not keen on having to pre-download a map each time i make a journey either.
I really miss IGo8 off my old Blackstone
Freypal said:
Is it just a case of a locked API that no one is currently offering a GPS navigation app that has maps pre-loaded?
All these ones that are coming out that need a data connection are pretty useless since i only really use sat-nav out in the sticks where i don't get reception.
I'm not keen on having to pre-download a map each time i make a journey either.
I really miss IGo8 off my old Blackstone
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I do not think it is API problem. They seem to keep storing the maps as you keep using new routes. I think they are using on-demand maps as a DRM method. It is difficult to pirate when the app keeps communicating (and authenticating) with Garmin servers.
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Too bad you can't download the full maps, though. You need to download your maps on a "per route" basis.
I am somewhat greatfull that I have t-mobile germany, so I get the Navigon App for "free". Here, I don't need a data volume to navigate.
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Agreed on the Navigon software; the 3.0 version is outstanding. And looks far more "metro" in style than this $40 software.
I believe the reason we are not seeing any offline gps software (ie with offline maps and offline routing) is because these companies have algorithms and "engines" for planning routes, and they cannot (or don't want to) convert these DLLs to silverlight. MS doesn't allow you to use your own proprietary code and DLLs in the marketplace. So the only proper nav apps with offline routing and maps, such as Navigon, can only exist if they are manufacturer or carrier-supplied (in the same way that HTC can offer compass and flashlight apps).
Pity this is US/Canada only... really after a decent nav app (Turn-By-Turn's (GPSTuner) POI's dont work in Australia!)
It is a shame for those in other regions, but for those of us in North America, it is pretty sweet. My only gripes with the app are the fact that they didn't include a "run under lock screen" option (a must-have option for Focus users), and the voice seems, at times, to be over-compressed, and comes out just a tad fuzzy. By way of comparison the voice on the AT&T Navigator app is crystal clear. But that is about the only advantage it has over Garmin's new app.
Hello,
I think that navigon will be for Europe.
anyway, it is a very good GPS (navigon) I used this program in try v3.
it's great.
I like it. Looks promising. However I would not get it. I already have a gps for that reason.
I picked it up a couple of days and tried it out and was sorely unimpressed.
Issues:
1) It lost the satellite sync a number of times in urban, but not downtown Seattle.
2) It seems to have no sense of correcting the raw data. For example, if I'm travelling along a highway at speed, you'd think that I'd be going in the same heading as the road. It apparently just reads the raw compass data, resulting in the appearance of a perpetual power slide as I drive.
3) When it loses me and recalculates, it treats it like I'm starting a new trip (with the same phrase at the beginning) and may want me to start on a different, albeit nearby road.
4) Position inaccuracy kept it thinking I was moving when I wasn't. This happened a LOT, although clearly it new I wasn't moving much, and reset me.
5) It doesn't have street names like TomTom.
6) It doesn't let me pull from Contacts. Maybe when Mango is released?
The real summary here is that if I hadn't known where I was going, it would have taken me a fairly poor direction as it would lose me, think I was relatively far away, and start calling out instructions from that. I'd rather use Bing Maps (which I think the touching idea is terrible) or TomTom on my iPad. I got the Garmin because TomTom won't, for some reason, allow my traffic subscription to work on the iPad.
There are some things about the app I like:
1) Data entry for the address was nice. I preferred it over the TomTom.
2) Screen layout is nice.
3) Pictures of road changes are amazing!
I haven't experienced the first two issues you described at all, so I can neither confirm nor deny them .
Issue 3 is a minor annoyance (although I've never had it place me on the wrong street), but I hope it is addressed in an update soon.
Issue 4 I have seen a couple of times, but it did correct very quickly.
For issue 5, I have no idea what you mean. My copy always speaks the correct street name as I approach a turn. Maybe it varies by area, but I am in a much more rural area than Seattle, so I would expect that I would experience that problem before you would.
Issue 6 has nothing to do with the app, it is strictly an API issue. No GPS app on the marketplace today can pull from your contacts. But that will come with Mango.
I have not tried this app yet but i have tried and am currently using Navigon Select 3.0 form this thread and i must say that for the 1 day of testing it, it is working great. BTW, i am a bit biased when it comes to Navigon, i have been using it for a long time now on my old Iphone 3G.
Garmin broken?
I recently started having a problem with the Garmin Streetpilot. Every time i run it, it says "Acquiring Satellite" but never seems to acquire the satellite. I've let it go 15 minutes while driving, and no dice.
I remember getting a Samsung software to improve my GPS reception, and assumed it had somehow broken Garmin. Today I restored my phone back to NoDo, and then got the offical Mango upgrade, this time without getting the Samsung App. Installed Garmin, and wham, exact same problem. It just can't acquire the satellite. I went ahead and grabbed the Samsung app and tried it again, but still no dice.
Does anybody have the Garmin working on their successfully? I'm wondering if they put out an update i missed that broke the app.
I've never had that problem on my Focus, although the previous version wasn't very precise in following the road. However, I briefly tried the new Mango version yesterday (which presumably includes compass support), it had no trouble at all.
I'm starting to suspect the problem is that I didn't get a Samsung firmware update, so my compass isn't working. I'm wondering if the Garmin keeps trying to ping the compass and getting stuck because it can't access it?
That's possible, but I don't think the app would report that the satellite could not be acquired if the only problem was a missing compass.
I agree it doesn't make sense, but given what i've seen in software development, it wouldn't be too surprising.
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I recently started having a problem with the Garmin Streetpilot. Every time i run it, it says "Acquiring Satellite" but never seems to acquire the satellite. I've let it go 15 minutes while driving, and no dice.
I remember getting a Samsung software to improve my GPS reception, and assumed it had somehow broken Garmin. Today I restored my phone back to NoDo, and then got the offical Mango upgrade, this time without getting the Samsung App. Installed Garmin, and wham, exact same problem. It just can't acquire the satellite. I went ahead and grabbed the Samsung app and tried it again, but still no dice.
Does anybody have the Garmin working on their successfully? I'm wondering if they put out an update i missed that broke the app.
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I'm having exactly the same problem on Focus (Mango) using StreetPilot 7.5.
Anybody have this working with a hoot?
Neither mine or my wifes works very well. Always seems to be about a town behind or can't find anything local. Both are stock rooted. Nothing fancy.
I thre in a 3rd party check in that does considerably better, but still doesn't always figure out where we are.
Thoughts? A search and Google search yields nothing.
Its probably finding your location either by towers or switchboards.
make sure your gps is on and do it from outside the location. even great gps units get whacky locations when you use them indoors
If it's not GPS and it's by cell towers, you may want to try the fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448015
I'll never understand why people "check in" on Facebook.
Check in and 4square are sofa king stoopid. It's like saying, "hey! I'm not home. Go break into my house. Isn't it cool that you all know where I am at all times on FB?" Screw that noise, yo.
At all times? Are you checking in all day long? It's a useful tool if you're meeting up with people somewhere, especially for bar-hopping, and you can restrict who sees your checkins, so I don't see any issues with home security.
Mine always thought I was at work no matter where I went. I installed GPS status and reset the aGPS data. Then I had the app download the aGPS data. Since then it has been working great.
Worked perfect for me inside a club.
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At all times? Are you checking in all day long? It's a useful tool if you're meeting up with people somewhere, especially for bar-hopping, and you can restrict who sees your checkins, so I don't see any issues with home security.
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No. I don't check in at all. Some of my goofball friends use those apps and check in every damn place they go. It's annoying. As if everyone wants to know that they are at Starbucks, DSW, or every time they go to Lifetime Fitness. I met a buddy for breakfast this morning and he tagged me with his stoopid check in. It was super ghey-ish. I guess I just don't get it or that twitter crap.
If I want people to meet me someplace, I'll call, text or email them. I don't have to tell everybody on FB where I am, as if I'm fishing for someone random fool to hang out with or bragging about my exploits 24/7.
I probably sound like a pompous ass or a Debbie downer. My bad.
Glad this thread was here for you to vent your dislike of a feature.. Hope you feel better.
Anyway, glad I am not alone in seeing a huge lag in the GPS. If I am tagging the location of a picture, I'll be damned, but I get the same thing - last known location was the previous town or yep.. Work.
Looks like unless I keep GPS alive at all times, it never locks or gives me the correct ballpark to even search for my location by name.
Ok. So we're "ghey" and "stoopid" because we have different likes. Got it.
Thankfully, the world isn't entirely like you.
Yer a great help...
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Ok. So we're "ghey" and "stoopid" because we have different likes. Got it.
Thankfully, the world isn't entirely like you.
Yer a great help...
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You missed my closing disclaimer. My apologies for hijacking the thread. Carry on.
Hello, does anyone know if Microsoft has turned off support for Bing Maps and Navigation in the Windows Mobile app? I found that starting late last week, Bing can no longer find anything when searching for addresses or businesses in the maps section of the app.
Searching for an address/business in maps returns the error "Sorry, we can't complete your search. Please check your connection and try again."
Searching for an address or business in the navigation section (Endpoint) returns "Sorry, we couldn't find this location."
Trying to navigate to a favorited address returns the error: "We were unable to generate your route. Try again?"
Using an HTC Touch Pro 2, WM 6.5 App, Sprint is the carrier, Bing Mobile version 5.1.2010.6280
I think everyone including MS is trying to bury WM 6... so this does not surprise me.
As far as navigation I would try and find a copy of Garmin XT. The only reason Im still using my Tilt 2 is because of the no data plan required GPS G-XT. Its truly amazing
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Hello, does anyone know if Microsoft has turned off support for Bing Maps and Navigation in the Windows Mobile app? I found that starting late last week, Bing can no longer find anything when searching for addresses or businesses in the maps section of the app.
Searching for an address/business in maps returns the error "Sorry, we can't complete your search. Please check your connection and try again."
Searching for an address or business in the navigation section (Endpoint) returns "Sorry, we couldn't find this location."
Trying to navigate to a favorited address returns the error: "We were unable to generate your route. Try again?"
Using an HTC Touch Pro 2, WM 6.5 App, Sprint is the carrier, Bing Mobile version 5.1.2010.6280
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I used bing navigation two days ago and it worked fine.
Sounds like you need to do some housecleaning on your device.
Also, I suggest you update QuickGPS then after that soft reset and then after rebooting completely open the bing app and try it.
Obsolete
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I used bing navigation two days ago and it worked fine.
Sounds like you need to do some housecleaning on your device.
Also, I suggest you update QuickGPS then after that soft reset and then after rebooting completely open the bing app and try it.
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might just not be working in his country or region?
bing not working
same problem here.
i get: "Sorry, we cannot complete your search. Please check your connection and try again"
with any search string.
I'm using a HTC Touch Pro2 on sprint.
between opera, Bing, and SERO I really didn't see any need to upgrade my phone. but losing Bing really reduces the functionality of my phone.
Yes, I have re-installed Bing, updated quick GPS.
The same thing has happened to me. I"m using an HTC Touch Pro 2, WM 6.5 App, and Sprint is the carrier. Bing mobile has worked for me for about a year, all of sudden last week the Navigation no longer works, can't find any addresses. The Map works and can "Locate Me", but I'm unable to get driving directions.
I noticed that Navigation is grayed out in Bing Settings. Does anyone know a resolution to all of this? Thanks
Microsoft is really trying hard to eliminate WinMo from everyone's memory...
Have you guys tried Waze...?
Waze seems nice but it keeps crashing sense on exit. If I can find a workaround I'll definitely use it, although I will miss the voice search Bing offered.
timjarsky said:
Waze seems nice but it keeps crashing sense on exit. If I can find a workaround I'll definitely use it, although I will miss the voice search Bing offered.
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Waze doesn't have voice search? I guess the voice search I use in Waze is provided thru the OS not Waze itself... Never used Waze on WinMo, only Android and iOS... Sorry.
Have you tried disabling Sense? I know, it's really the only thing that makes WinMo bearable...
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Waze doesn't have voice search? I guess the voice search I use in Waze is provided thru the OS not Waze itself... Never used Waze on WinMo, only Android and iOS... Sorry.
Have you tried disabling Sense? I know, it's really the only thing that makes WinMo bearable...
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using the task manager to kill Waze avoids the problem.
I might give Waze a shot. I've actually been running Android on the phone and using Google Navigation and it has been going pretty well. Voice search works real well, and Google Nav seems just as good as Bing at navigating around traffic. Biggest complaint at the moment is that Qik doesn't work on it, but it hasn't worked on Windows Mobile in over a year, so no big loss.
Android is a bit slow at times, but so far has been pretty damn stable. Most of the apps I've tried run decent enough. No games of course.
The biggest draw back of Android for me so far has been battery life. Some times the phone can easily go overnight without a charge, and other times it eats up the battery in 3 hours of no use. Seems like some of the third party apps don't properly close out when you're done using them and prevent the phone from going to sleep mode. I think I've managed to figure out who the trouble makers are (one was a garage sale app), and haven't noticed any problem with any of Google's apps or the major third party apps (Tapatalk, Facebook, Pandora, Opera).
Overall its been a very positive experience and instead of upgrading to a new phone I'm seriously considering continuing to use my TP2 but with Android as the primary OS for as long as possible.
I just have to keep reminding myself that playing the latest Angry Birds isn't worth $20/mo extra, and that while a better camera would be nice, I don't NEED it.
There are still a lot of Windows Mobile devices out there. In fact some carriers were still selling them less than a year ago. I know Microsoft sent an email out concerning closing the Market Place for Windows Mobile users, but I don't remember getting anything on Bing. It's funny how they don't support their own people and end up driving their long time users to other apps and OS's (ie. Google Maps/Android). Is there anywhere where you can at least ask the question of what the issue maybe and if they plan on fixing it.
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There are still a lot of Windows Mobile devices out there. In fact some carriers were still selling them less than a year ago. I know Microsoft sent an email out concerning closing the Market Place for Windows Mobile users, but I don't remember getting anything on Bing. It's funny how they don't support their own people and end up driving their long time users to other apps and OS's (ie. Google Maps/Android). Is there anywhere where you can at least ask the question of what the issue maybe and if they plan on fixing it.
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You can try tweeting them I guess... Social media has made large companies respond to small issues before.
I don't think Microsoft will really care about any issues with WinMo, they want you to buy a WP7 phone. They continue to support WinMo, they're basically continuing the loss of revenue.
I can guarantee you I will not be buying a Windows 7 Phone based purely on the way MS has treated WM users, especially after promising that they would continue to support WM.
Also, here's a post I made about this at the Bing forums and the response:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/bingmaps/thread/e0922592-ec17-4a37-8d3d-1e0b70413303
Short answer, MS turned off the token service the app was using.
shawndoc said:
Short answer, MS turned off the token service the app was using.
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I figured it was something like this. Thanks for closure, even if it's not the kind you were hoping for...
Android FTW
This is lunacy! Bing mobile was the only reason I still have a WinMo device. Does MS really think by disabling Bing mobile is really going to make me by a Win 7 phone? NOT! Guess where I'll be going next? Not MS because of the heavy hand treatment.
There is no harm in letting an app continue to work. We've all expected no more updates, but disabling = alienating. This is the last straw, bye MS!
With all that said, I've been trying alternatives for navigation and Waze seems to be the best free. Google maps is OK, but the GPS is not accurate and the text is super small to read so not really useful while driving. I found others that seemed promising but just cant get them to work. I'll stick with Waze for now until I get an iPhone or Android.
This is so unfortunate since Bing mobile was by far, better than any navigation app (including TomTom), even on the iPhone (my wife has an iPhone so I've tried others). I have no idea why MS keeps shooting themselves in the foot. Get a clue MS! This is why you are so far behind everyone else! Its not your technology, its your execution!
Try loading Android on your phone. I've been having good luck with Google Navigation, it bypasses traffic like Bing does, and its search is much better at finding destinations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052
The release I linked to there is stable and most everything works. The only "trick" I had to learn was to put WM into Airplane mode before launching Android.
shawndoc said:
I can guarantee you I will not be buying a Windows 7 Phone based purely on the way MS has treated WM users, especially after promising that they would continue to support WM.
Also, here's a post I made about this at the Bing forums and the response:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/bingmaps/thread/e0922592-ec17-4a37-8d3d-1e0b70413303
Short answer, MS turned off the token service the app was using.
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this is crazy, first myphone then marketplace now bing. what the heck. for tyhr first time im actually considering moving to android. ive been playong with waze and it is an awesome idea but the navigation is not comparable to a standalone gps where bing was almost. The fact that i could do voice searches actually made it better then my old garmin. I was gonna update my dad to a smartphone and give him an extra tp2 figuring he could really use a gps. Now that sprint forced us to update too a current plan im gonna try the sprint navigation. I went to see your post and microsofts response but they seemed to remove it. what did they say?
Weird, wonder why they removed it. Guess they were getting flamed by angry people after their response.
Basically someone from MS said that he wasn't familiar with the Bing app for WM, but that they'd recently turned off the "old" token service. So if the old app used those tokens to communication to the Bing servers, it wouldn't work any more.
And again, I'd suggest loading Android on the TP2 and trying out Google Navigation. It has a voice search that seems much better than the Bing app for voice recognition, and much better at finding locations.