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I'm quite confused about the flash support on the Desire. I have the HTC and a Nokia N900.
My Nokia is capable of playing every kind if flash on the internet and does it quite well for instance BBC Iplayer.
Now from what I know the Desire has better hardware on all levels so why can the lesser device perform better with flash than the Desire?
Any ideas?
Prob cause linux has full flash support? I dunno...
It's because the N900 has full flash support (I think it is 9.4), whereas until the 10.1 update, the Desire only has Flash Lite, which is designed for low-powered phones, and so it can only play lots of flash badly until then.
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It's because the N900 has full flash support (I think it is 9.4), whereas until the 10.1 update, the Desire only has Flash Lite, which is designed for low-powered phones, and so it can only play lots of flash badly until then.
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Thats not true if you go to google.com and type in what flash version do I have and hit the top link this say my HTC has 10.1.
On Nokia N900 I have,
Version LNX 9,0,246,0
Operating system Linus 2.6.28-omap1
Video capable yes
Audio capable yes
Local file i/o enabled yes
On HTC Desire I have,
Version FL 10,1,123,391
Operating system Linus 2.6.29-
Video capable yes
Audio capable yes
Local file i/o enabled no
So not to sure about it
Actually this Version FL 10,1,123,391 ... is not full flash.
It is the same as FlashLite 4.
The "real" 10.1 with hardware accelerator for Android has NOT been released yet.
Adobe promised 2nd half 2010.
So, wait till then
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Thats not true if you go to google.com and type in what flash version do I have and hit the top link this say my HTC has 10.1.
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I remember reading somewhere that the '10.1' that you see when you do your query is not the same as the 'desktop Flash 10'; it is apparently only version 4.x. There was also a video on YouTube explaining this. Can't remember the links off the top of my head.
@Gogol: you just beat me to it. But yeah basically the same thing.
Many thanks for the info guys
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Actually this Version FL 10,1,123,391 ... is not full flash.
It is the same as FlashLite 4.
The "real" 10.1 with hardware accelerator for Android has NOT been released yet.
Adobe promised 2nd half 2010.
So, wait till then
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Sorry, that's what I meant, didn't want to cause confusion
They should really be more clear regarding Flash on the Desire. I have seen many reviews where they say 'even though the Desire has flash support, it is not working very well'...
Then I always get of my but and email then, saying this is Flash LITE. Full flash expected in a few months.
But I understand why so many people are confused.. HTC off course just says 'flash', so more people will buy it. How bad people can be when there is money involved
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...Then I always get of my but and email then, saying this is Flash LITE. Full flash expected in a few months.
But I understand why so many people are confused.. HTC off course just says 'flash', so more people will buy it. How bad people can be when there is money involved
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lol, but true
at next monday (12. april) adobe introduces the new creative suite. i've read somewhere, that the creative suite will be released on 17. of april! i think at this point, they will spread out the new flash player 10.1 release candidate (wich is allready available for desktops!).
for me it's not a difference, if the flash is full flash when you buy your device. it's more important to know, that they will release the update soon! let's wait, you will not regret it!!
I'm getting pretty good desktop flash here
Some really heavy flash 9 sites do load and show.
But I do think its not the 10.1 version with acceleration.
I hope it comes soon, because being a actionscript 3 developer myself, I can't wait to make full multiplatform solutions for my clients. Including mobile versions of the full software that can work on multiple mobile devices. But that needs full mobile 10.1 distribution!
It's the same **** we had when the Hero came out promising flash. Never got past flash lite. I have a feeling we are being strung along....
It's not flash lite, but certainly not 10.1.
The flash lite (which was/is very very limited) cannot show normal Flash 9 content (at least it can't on my Hero and on my WM mobiles).
The version that comes with the Desire can show full FlashPlayer 9 content. Perhaps will give it a try tomorrow to find out which version is the max.
But I can check out insanely complex FlashPlayer 9 (fully AS3 programmed using extended functionalities) sites. Runs like crap, but it works.
Edit: Ah, checked it via the Adobe site (this link).
Seems to be FlashLite 10(.1.123.391).
But it is able to show web application that are made in AS3 and/or with the Flex framework. that would require full flashplayer 9 support.
But very crappy... Even the simplest things seem to be heavy on the system. Stuff that should run flawlessly, no matter what speed the cpu should be (simple AS3 only programmed animation).
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It's the same **** we had when the Hero came out promising flash. Never got past flash lite. I have a feeling we are being strung along....
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Once Adobe releases the official flash for Android we should be good. The only question remains, can it be installed seperately or do we have to wait for HTC to put it in an update? (I'm afraid it will be the second option... :/ )
Yes, that (waiting HTC update) would be a really bad news.
We could hope that "complete" root would be possible when that happen, for possibility to install our self (with help from XDA gurus).
Right now, Paul from MoDaCo.com is able to have root access on his T-Mobile Desire, but still no write access to the system partition.
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Once Adobe releases the official flash for Android we should be good. The only question remains, can it be installed seperately or do we have to wait for HTC to put it in an update? (I'm afraid it will be the second option... :/ )
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this is just personal opnion, but this version blows away the 3/31 build. i juss had issues with data not wrkn but i fixed it with the tips in the threads. I hear people talk of stability. well, to me, this new sense version moves way faster and smoother. really. juss make sure to cut off the 3d harware box..it isnt wrkn and will slow things up. i have more features working in this install than the 3/31 build.
my last install didnt load all the folders right and i never saw a keyboard selector or update. checked thru everywhere in device, no luck..but it still worked, i juss couldnt auto update and i was getting hung up trying to change the files. Now, with this new install...everything is perfect..lol i know have "andboot" folder....my last install named it "Android" and no matter how many different ways to change folder name or replace, it didint work. Now all i gotta do is auto update..which i did with this install also..wrks perfect. now my my dual boot wont recognize it...i tried to different versions the 1.05 and 1.06 Gene Y dual boot cabs, no luck..not worried though, i figure it soon enough.
almost half the day been on Sense...i always keep a charger close by. lol for all the skeptical people, wifi does work..i tested it..its pickn up signals...my 03/31 install didnt wrk..as far as wifi goes...im making and recieving phone calls...juss set your calls and txts and emails to vibrate...it works..all my data wrkn perfect...i got opera mini 5 up here along with a ton of stuff i downloaded..lol
A smart move to do is to use your Astro Explorer and press menu to back up data/apps..u can bck up all ur dwnloaded stuff from the market or wherever..and be able to reinstall them if u ever reinstall a new xdandroid version or somethng. ive did install/uninstall numerous times already..so knowing i still have my programs backed up is good. get opera if u havent....its way faster thn the android one. i got programs im dying to use once everything wrks on this build like my morse coder or the virtual walkie talkie apps..i cant say enuff how truly amazed with this forum, its members, and the Feats being accomplished here. and they do this for free...Unbelievable...THANK YOU DEVELOPERS N ALL WHO MADE THIS BUILD POSSIBLE. i cant wait to show this off to my pops and friends back home...ima blow their mind...
Im staying with Sense 2.1........cuz IT MAKES SENSE...lmao
to me this is better than last version and moves faster, at least on my tilt2 it does...oh and if u want true speed readings, get the Speedtest.net app frm da market..its free... if u think im pulling your chain on this build, juss look at da sig..im on android sense now on xda app..wit no problems..im goin crazy ova here on how cool this is...i just joined this site not too long ago n already got my phone on a whole new level of being upgraded..i got all da fixes. 3D DRIVERS...DA LIST Goes on and on..too cool
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How did you disable 3d hardware?
Love the sense interface on android
jebuske said:
How did you disable 3d hardware?
Love the sense interface on android
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in your startup.txt change hw3d.force=1 to hw3d.force=0
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in your startup.txt change hw3d.force=1 to hw3d.force=0
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Or if you're using the startup utility then just uncheck the box.
i think I've confirmed that rooted apps and WiFi tethering works on this build. i downloaded barnacle wifi tethering app from the marketplace that said ur device needed to be rooted in order to work. well it seems to wrk. i know wifi wrks for sure and data, so therotically should. i gave my old tilt to my mom so cant test right this second but the program runs fine and commands say its broadcasting successfull. goodnight..lol
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Which installer did you use? The .cab or the .rar?
demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
hey
this is a great version and i think its basically usable for people who arent dying for the GPS, bluetooth, and camera. the one thing that is killing it for me though is the lack of the speaker and headphone jack working. that is the only features preventing me from using it all the time.
i know these guys are making great progress but does anyone have any idea when theyre gonna at least solve that issue? because im sure that would bump up its mass appeal
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this is a great version and i think its basically usable for people who arent dying for the GPS, bluetooth, and camera. the one thing that is killing it for me though is the lack of the speaker and headphone jack working. that is the only features preventing me from using it all the time.
i know these guys are making great progress but does anyone have any idea when theyre gonna at least solve that issue? because im sure that would bump up its mass appeal
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They work on this daily. It could be tomorrow, it could be never. There is no time line, or guarantee.
demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
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its pretty stable, to me. it isn't my default OS yet but keeping it on longer and longer everyday. I be pushing da limits on this build. as far as apps and modding Android within itself. essential functions wrk like being able to make/receive calls, txts,data,WiFi...I can even do WiFi tether wit app I found on marketplace. I had marketplace wrkn but I messed around and now its saying serve error but my gsm and data wrk fine...marketplace acts funny at times..lol ill get it wrkn again soon, already deleted data img. I get tired of reading all my settings and apn and downloads..I hve alot..there's some good tool apps on mrktplce
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demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
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I personally think its SO annoyingly slow. I'm constantly waiting for screens and lists to populate, and it makes me feel like I am using WinMo again. Contacts take forever to load, and the sms app, takes FOREVER to populate. Then when you're trying to do something sense will force close itself, and then you find yourself staring at a black screen with "htc" on it, and you have to wait for it to completely start Sense again. Personally if I want sense UI, ill use WinMo ROM with it, at least everything works that way.
The AOSP 2.1 is WAY smooth, and SO fast, and a more "official" release. 110Mb free ram vs 45Mb sounds WAY better to me.
demandarin- would you say the new build is stable for the majority of Android features? What's your opinion on using it as your default OS system for the Tilt 2?
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I personally think its SO annoyingly slow. I'm constantly waiting for screens and lists to populate, and it makes me feel like I am using WinMo again. Contacts take forever to load, and the sms app, takes FOREVER to populate. Then when you're trying to do something sense will force close itself, and then you find yourself staring at a black screen with "htc" on it, and you have to wait for it to completely start Sense again. Personally if I want sense UI, ill use WinMo ROM with it, at least everything works that way.
The AOSP 2.1 is WAY smooth, and SO fast, and a more "official" release. 110Mb free ram vs 45Mb sounds WAY better to me.
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I tried to get that version but the link was messed up or actn up...ill tke your advice and try it out..
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Reefermattness said:
I personally think its SO annoyingly slow. I'm constantly waiting for screens and lists to populate, and it makes me feel like I am using WinMo again. Contacts take forever to load, and the sms app, takes FOREVER to populate. Then when you're trying to do something sense will force close itself, and then you find yourself staring at a black screen with "htc" on it, and you have to wait for it to completely start Sense again. Personally if I want sense UI, ill use WinMo ROM with it, at least everything works that way.
The AOSP 2.1 is WAY smooth, and SO fast, and a more "official" release. 110Mb free ram vs 45Mb sounds WAY better to me.
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ok well that is a damning summary coming straight from the horses mouth! Thanks for all the advice everyone, sounds like AOSP 2.1 is the way to go for stability. Can't wait to try this out. I won't have to switch between my G1 and Avantage for much longer.
i downloaded that 2.1 no sense last night after i posted. I installed it juss like any other build but couldnt get it to finish the haret loading. 3/31 2.01and the 4/23 2.1 w/Sense builds i had no problem installing and running. I even checked the folders and it was all correct, in the andboot folder with all the necessary files in it. Even updated the 2.1 AOSP b4 running it the first time. the first time right after haret started up, it got hung up in the beginning..so i rebooted to try again. this time the haret ran the loader all the way till the end and got hung up right b4 the startup screen. said something about trying to init. pid or something. it kept on searching and repeating the command but no luck. i shut it down after i seen it aint gonna load up..lol i really do wanna try this build also but get tired of uninstalling and installing and setting up all my settings again. i have a ton of downloaded apps for the android already. after no success, i just installed the sense one again. Wrks wit no problems..lol
Theres ways to make it run faster within the os itself. I found alot of good memory manager apps and startup auditors. The reason i believe it runs laggy at times is because of all the programs always starting up without u even doing anything. U gotta kill apps all the time. I cant remember the name, but i have this memory app tool that lets u set a minimum and maximum MB for ur programs. For example i set it to 50mb, the program starts killing off apps in order of priority in order to maintain at least 50mb threshhold. works pretty well to me. i might try that 2.1 no sense build again another day but im stickin with the Sense build for now. It has potential..lol
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ok well that is a damning summary coming straight from the horses mouth! Thanks for all the advice everyone, sounds like AOSP 2.1 is the way to go for stability. Can't wait to try this out. I won't have to switch between my G1 and Avantage for much longer.
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Don't get me wrong, Im not saying you shouldn't try it. Different people have different tastes, you might LOVE it!
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i downloaded that 2.1 no sense last night after i posted. I installed it juss like any other build but couldnt get it to finish the haret loading.
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Ill build a new cab within the next day or 2. You're not the only one that had problems with the AOSP .cab.
thanks,..im sure we all will be Patiently waiting..lol
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They work on this daily. It could be tomorrow, it could be never. There is no time line, or guarantee.
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yeah im glad theyre working on it either way, but ill only start using it as my full time OS when they get that feature in at least. but it sure is fun to mess around with in the meantime
yeah, i believe its gonna come soon. I be away from my phone alot and need to hear it when a call comes in or i get txts, or "BACKGROUND Notifications"..lol that made me laugh...thinkin of somethin someone else told me in another thread.. I believe Reefer posted up the new cab for the 2.1 non-sense version. I havent gottn to try it out yet. Im still havin fun with the Sense version. Plus finding out how to cut the Sense UI off is a big plus for me. Now everytime my device boots into Android, It asks me what UI i want to use. Either Home, Sense, or Launcher. if i use home or launcher , it loads right up. Not like when using Sense and its loading forever. I like it cuz i have the option to choose.
I am new GNex user, had been using stock 4.0.4 and now I am on latest AOKP. I have installed many browsers and tested the latest Flash plugin from Market. Tested with Opera, Stock browser and Dolphin HD. No matter what website,/brower when I get a page with a flash video, the video works fine, it plays nice. When I switch the video to full screen the problem is I can't seek in video. So if I'm watching a tv episode and have to do something else, when I come back I can't resume from the point I left it as I can't seek to the time I want. This is very annoying considering that on my previous Galaxy S1 flash worked fine in any browser. Any fix for this ? How is it working on your side ?
Flash is just very very poorly implemented on mobile platforms unfortunately. Its very hit or miss for me. Most of the time I come across Flash content, I just wait until I'm at a computer to watch...
Yeah I have the same problems too freeze or always seeking in full screen!
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A world without Flash is a better place—boycott any site that requires it.
flash is dead, long live the future.
This thing with flash is dead is a ****ty remark. It's not dead... just look around the web... just look around all sites that provide video. How many are flash based ? When will they be converted ? Flash will be here of at least a couple of years. I boght a Android phone because I wanted flash support for a desktop-ish browsing experience. Looking on the browser on my BB Playbook, the ICS browser is miles behind. Both in terms of speed and not to mention flash support, flawasly on Playbook, crap crap crap on Android.
It's curious that Adobe said they will not support flash anymore... but then in December they released an update which made it compatible... now I see the last update was in March... I really hope they will make a working version for at least GNex as it's the ICS reference device.
flash has had it's day.... open standards are the way forward.
Adobe have realised the way forward is HTML5 and is concentrating it's efforts on that field moving forward.
A lot of sites that provide video already have HTML5 alternatives...
I work in web design and development and the general movement by clients is to make a responsive design that works across all platform, flash is normally excluded and replaced with open platforms such as HTML5, JS and CSS3
Most of the time I zoom in to the point where I can easily seek, then I go full screen.
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alinescoo said:
This thing with flash is dead is a ****ty remark. It's not dead... just look around the web... just look around all sites that provide video. How many are flash based ? When will they be converted ? Flash will be here of at least a couple of years. I boght a Android phone because I wanted flash support for a desktop-ish browsing experience. Looking on the browser on my BB Playbook, the ICS browser is miles behind. Both in terms of speed and not to mention flash support, flawasly on Playbook, crap crap crap on Android.
It's curious that Adobe said they will not support flash anymore... but then in December they released an update which made it compatible... now I see the last update was in March... I really hope they will make a working version for at least GNex as it's the ICS reference device.
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It IS dead for mobile platforms. Fact.
Adobe said they will update flash to ICS and provide security updates, but no newer versions or improvements.
Well, I can't really say that Adobe did the update of flash to ICS... with very little tweaking they could have done it right... as it is now, I preffer to uninstall it and consider myself running a WP7 or iOS device in terms of browsing experience.
Thanks you all for confirming it wasn't an issue only on my phone.
Flash is dieing. HTML5 is the future.
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You guys don't even need to hit my thanks button because this helps no one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406507,00.asp
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Old knews but still very unfortunate Flash works quite well on Android and html5 still isn't ready for the big time and there is a lot of flash still out there on the web
godutch said:
Old knews but still very unfortunate Flash works quite well on Android and html5 still isn't ready for the big time and there is a lot of flash still out there on the web
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I don't understand when companies do stuff like this. I try to keep my company in as much as possible. I even endorse upcoming projects and products just for advertisement.
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pretty stupid... but I'm sure, there will be another app, that will run flash things..
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pretty stupid... but I'm sure, there will be another app, that will run flash things..
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On linux there where a few alternatives but they just sucked....slow, buggy, missing many flash features etc...
When you upgrade to JB from ICS if you had flash installed you still had it. Or you could sideload the app.
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When you upgrade to JB from ICS if you had flash installed you still had it. Or you could sideload the app.
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probably yes but I have seen flash break many times even after minor android point releases, so by 4.1.2 it could be even, reduced to iPhone level
Its not the worst thing ever. I never have had a need for flash on my iPhone (obviously) or my android devices.
It's very old news, there's no flash in Chrome for android. This is actually very good news imo. Web developers, myself included, spent years creating crazy hacks to make things work in ie6. About 4 years ago a small group realized that as long as that happened there was no incentive for ie6 users to upgrade. Slowly it became more common to display a warning to ie6 users only using...
<!--[if lte ie6]-->
This has resulted in a huge reduction in use of ie6.
Flash is as dead as ie6 but as long as browsers keep supporting it people will keep using it. Advancement in web development technology has always been hampered by the idea that we must keep supporting old technologies.
Adobe are leading the way in html5 authoring tools and feel the alternative already exists, I agree.
HTML5 is absolutely ready for primetime. The W3C's definition that it isn't has to be seen in context, it's not fully defined so officially it is not ready, real world usage is effective though as most elements are defined and it adequately replaces flash and xhtml. So far, all browsers with no flash support are pretty good with HTML5 so its simple enough to code fall backs both ways so some see flash and some see html5 depending on capability. I recently created a video gallery for a client that does this, as a result the video player falls forward (as it were) to HTML5 when the browser is capable, thus videos can be viewed on iDevices and Android.
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You guys don't even need to hit my thanks button because this helps no one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406507,00.asp
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Like has been said, old news, but still pretty damn awesome! *dances anti-flash dance*
Hope flash can now finally go and die.
somehow i agree with adobe dropping flash. flash doesnt run well on mobile phones, and it's laggy even if it does run.
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somehow i agree with adobe dropping flash. flash doesnt run well on mobile phones, and it's laggy even if it does run.
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But html5 is even laggier, try for yourself on your desktop with youtube videos. You can enable html5 or flash in the "try something new"(or something like that, mine is in dutch( menu all the way at the bottom of the main page
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But html5 is even laggier, try for yourself on your desktop with youtube videos. You can enable html5 or flash in the "try something new"(or something like that, mine is in dutch( menu all the way at the bottom of the main page
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Not true, as a programming language html5 is way more efficient than flash (or actionscript). But just because it is a good language doesn't mean you can't write bad code in it.
Also, I for one have not had any issues with the implementation at YouTube.
Html5 working great on my pc on youtube.
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Html5 working great on my pc on youtube.
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That's cause youtube converted over to HTML5 but so many other sites didnt
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Hi all.
Been an Android user for about as long as it's been out there and I have almost always rooted and installed custom ROM's on my devices. Last year I finally managed to convince the wife to upgrade to Android (enter the ARC S). She was delighted but the phone was always a bit slugish. When the ICS update came out I pressed her to upgrade because I thought she would benefit from the upgrade and the speeds might improve. So after a few months she finally gave in and about 2 weeks ago I did the upgrade. Aaaaaaannnndddddd that's when it all went to hell. Her phone is slow. Soooooo painfully slow that even an old HTC Desire loaded with a Sense 3.5 / 4 ROM is outperforming it by miles. She is mad. Soooooo very mad at me since then for having made her phone all that much worse. Reading up on it I know now that the upgrade was a bust and that Sony dropped the ball with this one.
So now I am looking to redeem myself. Usually I'd just root the phone, slap on some recovery software and flash away a couple of ROM's and choose from them. But this device seems to be not so straight forward. So I am turning to the community for help. What I am looking to do is install a custom ROM that is smooth and fast and will stay that way for as long as possible. Preferably one that is JB based and as easy to get on the device as possible. Now I know that when this question gets put out there people are often greeted with the "flash 'em and try" response, but my wife is reluctant to let me do anything else to her phone, let alone experiment with many a ROM. So I am asking for opinions. Any ROM as long as it's fast. The ROM that gets the most positive opinions wins and that is what I'll flash and hopefully save my marriage
Please keep in mind the phone is SIM locked and not rooted. It's basically an original ARC S with ICS on it. I have no recovery or rooting experience with this device, so it would be lovely if this could be done simply. I don't really want to over complicate things and risk gorking the thing even more.
Thanks in advance to all you members out there!
Hi.
You could just have Googled best rom arc s and read one of the numerous threads on the subject, and these threads are just another variation of best rom threads which are also now starting to build up. Root and and remove crap, few build.prop and init.d tweaks and you'll have a nippy Phone that works as it should, install a custom ROM then she isn't going to be happy when something doesn't work and you're constantly taking it of her to sort it out.
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Hi.
You could just have Googled best rom arc s and read one of the numerous threads on the subject, and these threads are just another variation of best rom threads which are also now starting to build up. Root and and remove crap, few build.prop and init.d tweaks and you'll have a nippy Phone that works as it should, install a custom ROM then she isn't going to be happy when something doesn't work and you're constantly taking it of her to sort it out.
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I did. And I actually considered (still am tbh) the Ultimate HD. But thought maybe there was something out there better and no frills. As for the root and decrap option, that's actually a pretty good idea. But won't the crap just load back? I mean, on most roms when I remove the bloatware it just loads up again via market. As for build.prop I don't know much. Could you just tip me a thread topic or what not and I will search. Or topics even.
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I did. And I actually considered (still am tbh) the Ultimate HD. But thought maybe there was something out there better and no frills. As for the root and decrap option, that's actually a pretty good idea. But won't the crap just load back? I mean, on most roms when I remove the bloatware it just loads up again via market. As for build.prop I don't know much. Could you just tip me a thread topic or what not and I will search. Or topics even.
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Best thing is to try honestly (I wouldn't say ultimate hd is a bad choice )
And bloatware wouldn't load back once you've removed them so dont worry
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Best thing is to try honestly (I wouldn't say ultimate hd is a bad choice )
And bloatware wouldn't load back once you've removed them so dont worry
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Thanks. Will have to consider it.
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Try Ultimate HD 2.0.3 / Xperia T ROM
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Thanks. Will have to consider it.
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I have been using that ROM for around a week now and my phone is faster than ever.. The only issue seems to be in sending items via bluetooth (accept works smooth, but the option in send via is missing). But if your wife doesn't use that much bluetooth file sharing, then I'd recommend this ROM. Another good choice would be XPERIA T ROM for Arc S - Comparatively its a tad bit slower (not noticeable) but loads of more features (WalkMan has GraceNote, ClearAudio. Album has SenseMe etc.) Both are stable for daily use.
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I have been using that ROM for around a week now and my phone is faster than ever.. The only issue seems to be in sending items via bluetooth (accept works smooth, but the option in send via is missing). But if your wife doesn't use that much bluetooth file sharing, then I'd recommend this ROM. Another good choice would be XPERIA T ROM for Arc S - Comparatively its a tad bit slower (not noticeable) but loads of more features (WalkMan has GraceNote, ClearAudio. Album has SenseMe etc.) Both are stable for daily use.
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Thank you for the input. Bluetooth is not an issue. She rarely uses it at all. So yes, I'll keep it in mind. I'll have to decide till tomorrow morning seeing as how I am going to try to get it done over the weekend. To those of you that took the time to reply, my thanks!
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Thank you for the input. Bluetooth is not an issue. She rarely uses it at all. So yes, I'll keep it in mind. I'll have to decide till tomorrow morning seeing as how I am going to try to get it done over the weekend. To those of you that took the time to reply, my thanks!
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So did you install one finally??
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So did you install one finally??
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Actually, no. She forbade me
I'm guessing she's scared it'll just get worse or I'll mess it up even more. She won't even allow me to root it. At this point, I am hoping that some official fix comes along so that I can at least get her phone back to acceptable status. It's sooooooo slow. My old HTC Desire flies like a bat with a lit match stuck up it's butt compared to her Arc S right now. I mean, pulling up the phone dialer takes literally between 7 to 17 seconds to open just the dialer. And don't even dare to tap "contacts" because it can take you the best part of 30 seconds to see them appear.
SONY didn't just drop the ball with releasing this update; they bloody well stabbed it with a hunting knife to deflate it first so the ball would never bounce again... and then they dropped it.
Really, I am so sad for her every time I see her trying to do something on her phone. She used to love it. Now I see her turning away from it every chance she gets. It's really heartbreaking, and I am not trying to be funny. It really does pain me to see this happen.
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Actually, no. She forbade me
I'm guessing she's scared it'll just get worse or I'll mess it up even more. She won't even allow me to root it. At this point, I am hoping that some official fix comes along so that I can at least get her phone back to acceptable status. It's sooooooo slow. My old HTC Desire flies like a bat with a lit match stuck up it's butt compared to her Arc S right now. I mean, pulling up the phone dialer takes literally between 7 to 17 seconds to open just the dialer. And don't even dare to tap "contacts" because it can take you the best part of 30 seconds to see them appear.
SONY didn't just drop the ball with releasing this update; they bloody well stabbed it with a hunting knife to deflate it first so the ball would never bounce again... and then they dropped it.
Really, I am so sad for her every time I see her trying to do something on her phone. She used to love it. Now I see her turning away from it every chance she gets. It's really heartbreaking, and I am not trying to be funny. It really does pain me to see this happen.
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Yes, and atheistically Arc S is an awesome phone. And since its good under the hood as well, with a good custom FW, it really flies. My condolences to you my friend. However I have used Arc with stock FW as well, hence will suggest you some tips to enhance performance
1. Disable FaceBook Inside Xperia - It lags the system like hell
2. Remove the Timescape widget and live wallpapers if set.
3. Disable AutoSync if possible or keep it on for accounts other than FaceBook
4. Clear messages and call history a few days - I know it sounds strange - but it sure used to speed up my Arc.
5. Using tools like App Cache Cleaner and RAM Booster can help speed it up
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Yes, and atheistically Arc S is an awesome phone. And since its good under the hood as well, with a good custom FW, it really flies. My condolences to you my friend. However I have used Arc with stock FW as well, hence will suggest you some tips to enhance performance
1. Disable FaceBook Inside Xperia - It lags the system like hell
2. Remove the Timescape widget and live wallpapers if set.
3. Disable AutoSync if possible or keep it on for accounts other than FaceBook
4. Clear messages and call history a few days - I know it sounds strange - but it sure used to speed up my Arc.
5. Using tools like App Cache Cleaner and RAM Booster can help speed it up
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Thanks for those tips. Will surely come in handy. How can I disable FB in the Arc? I know how to remove the account, but I think it's somehow integrated into the ROM, right? Is that what you meant?
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Thanks for those tips. Will surely come in handy. How can I disable FB in the Arc? I know how to remove the account, but I think it's somehow integrated into the ROM, right? Is that what you meant?
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He didn't mean Facebook itself, but Facebook inside Xperia. It's that awesome feature that let's you do things you don't need to... seriously. I don't remember well where it is in settings, but it is there (I flashed a custom JB rom so I can't tell you where it is). I guess it was in "Xperia" but I'm not sure on that one. Autosync takes a huge amount of the guilt for making it slower, allow it only when you enable wifi, if possible. Check RAM usage, and look for apps that are not in use, and uninstall them.
If you really want it fast, then why not flashing a GB lightweighted Rom or even the debloated stock one? There are quite a few around here that you can flash. Just check the development section. It won't have a lot of features as ICS does, but as this phone was designed for GB, it will run in a decent way.
I used Ultimate HD for a while, and let me tell you, it was great. It offers very nice features. 5x4 apps drawer like in Xperia T (also Xperia T's boot animation); very nice design; on-screen buttons at choice; quick toggle panel (that is really handy); walkman app; new calendar app; the new album app that allows you to see the photos on map (if geotag was allowed when taken); included overclocking tool; and much more, being quite fast at the same time. I just switched to JB for the sake of feeling JB in my hand! But of course, if I see that it doesn't suit me well, I'm going back to ICS, back to UHD.
If you really want to make it faster, your best choice is to convince her to flash a custom ROM. Stock is well aesthetically designed, but as you said yourself, laggy as hell. Some of those custom ROMs are even able to be used with locked bootloader (although I would recommend to unlock the bootloader, check link at my signature from the android soul community). My suggestion: Read. She won't, you will. The chances of schrewing it up are lower if you inform yourself of the risks. I usually do this: I read the OP, and then I go to the last 5 pages, and read some repplies. It tells me whether people are having issues recently, or if there's a common issue.
Good luck convincing her :fingers-crossed:
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He didn't mean Facebook itself, but Facebook inside Xperia. It's that awesome feature that let's you do things you don't need to... seriously. I don't remember well where it is in settings, but it is there (I flashed a custom JB rom so I can't tell you where it is). I guess it was in "Xperia" but I'm not sure on that one. Autosync takes a huge amount of the guilt for making it slower, allow it only when you enable wifi, if possible. Check RAM usage, and look for apps that are not in use, and uninstall them.
If you really want it fast, then why not flashing a GB lightweighted Rom or even the debloated stock one? There are quite a few around here that you can flash. Just check the development section. It won't have a lot of features as ICS does, but as this phone was designed for GB, it will run in a decent way.
I used Ultimate HD for a while, and let me tell you, it was great. It offers very nice features. 5x4 apps drawer like in Xperia T (also Xperia T's boot animation); very nice design; on-screen buttons at choice; quick toggle panel (that is really handy); walkman app; new calendar app; the new album app that allows you to see the photos on map (if geotag was allowed when taken); included overclocking tool; and much more, being quite fast at the same time. I just switched to JB for the sake of feeling JB in my hand! But of course, if I see that it doesn't suit me well, I'm going back to ICS, back to UHD.
If you really want to make it faster, your best choice is to convince her to flash a custom ROM. Stock is well aesthetically designed, but as you said yourself, laggy as hell. Some of those custom ROMs are even able to be used with locked bootloader (although I would recommend to unlock the bootloader, check link at my signature from the android soul community). My suggestion: Read. She won't, you will. The chances of schrewing it up are lower if you inform yourself of the risks. I usually do this: I read the OP, and then I go to the last 5 pages, and read some repplies. It tells me whether people are having issues recently, or if there's a common issue.
Good luck convincing her :fingers-crossed:
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Oh wow, thanks for the info! This thread is actually becoming more helpful then I expected. You can bet I'll keep trying to convince her. Also I'll check the FB issue and see if I can get something sorted.
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Oh wow, thanks for the info! This thread is actually becoming more helpful then I expected. You can bet I'll keep trying to convince her. Also I'll check the FB issue and see if I can get something sorted.
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Good luck on that one :highfive: And don't forget to click thanks on the posts that you found helpful
So good news! She finally had enough and can't stand the slowness anymore. I have the go ahead to do what I want to the device. So now everything is an option. So from what I gathered so far, first I must unlock bootloader. But this means formating the data partition, thus loosing everything.
Is it at all possible to root first so I can Titanium Backup the hell out of this phone first? LT18i running stock 4.0.4 and 4.1.B.0.587.
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Pitbull_Raven said:
So good news! She finally had enough and can't stand the slowness anymore. I have the go ahead to do what I want to the device. So now everything is an option. So from what I gathered so far, first I must unlock bootloader. But this means formating the data partition, thus loosing everything.
Is it at all possible to root first so I can Titanium Backup the hell out of this phone first? LT18i running stock 4.0.4 and 4.1.B.0.587.
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Yes. root it, backup your apps using titanium backup. (i recommend paid version) backup contacts and sms also. unlock your bootloader, flash custom kernel, (i recommend rush kernel), do full wipe (wipe absolutely everything except sd card of course since your backups are all there.) flash custom rom (preferably stock based roms since they are more stable. Try ultimate hd or jelly sandwich).
boot up for the first time, first boot usually slower. Complete First time setup, let it sit for awhile, like 5 minutes, install titanium, restore apps and contacts, make sure the apps are working. Some apps like line won't work after restoring with data from titanium and I had to clear it's app data first. set cpu governor to performance and add a bit of overclock (1.5 or 1.6). she won't know what these are anyway and she'd stop whining about lags. remember to set to overclock on boot. reboot phone and you're done.
I do this for my girl too. I'd still recommend ultimate hd 2.0.3. but you should mess around with the settings to see what it has to offer first. And also remember to search within their threads to find current unfixed bugs and their solutions.
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Yes. root it, backup your apps using titanium backup. (i recommend paid version) backup contacts and sms also. unlock your bootloader, flash custom kernel, (i recommend rush kernel), do full wipe (wipe absolutely everything except sd card of course since your backups are all there.) flash custom rom (preferably stock based roms since they are more stable. Try ultimate hd or jelly sandwich).
boot up for the first time, first boot usually slower. Complete First time setup, let it sit for awhile, like 5 minutes, install titanium, restore apps and contacts, make sure the apps are working. Some apps like line won't work after restoring with data from titanium and I had to clear it's app data first. set cpu governor to performance and add a bit of overclock (1.5 or 1.6). she won't know what these are anyway and she'd stop whining about lags. remember to set to overclock on boot. reboot phone and you're done.
I do this for my girl too. I'd still recommend ultimate hd 2.0.3. but you should mess around with the settings to see what it has to offer first. And also remember to search within their threads to find current unfixed bugs and their solutions.
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Very helpful. Thanks. I have TB paid version, so it shouldn't be a problem. Was just wondering how to root without unlocking boot first. I can see many a tutorial, but all seem to tell how to unlock bl first.
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you don't need to unlock bl to root... and once you unlock bl you won't need to root because most custom roms and kernels come pre-rooted. use flashtool to root. download flashtool if you haven't already. It's like the all in one toolbox if you're just a user.
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Will definitely look into it. Many thanks.
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