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Benefits of rooting SGS i9000

Why should the average user take the risk?

The "Average" user shouldn't in my view. Original firmware is pretty stable so there's no immediate need for custom ROMS or removal of shipped apps.

dan 6a said:
Why should the average user take the risk?
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An average user shouldn't, but it can be fun to have a proper play with the device!
ash99 said:
The "Average" user shouldn't in my view. Original firmware is pretty stable so there's no immediate need for custom ROMS or removal of shipped apps.
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You must admit there's some crap shipped apps installed on it, like most of the Live Wallpaper, widgets and Layar.

damianarnold said:
An average user shouldn't, but it can be fun to have a proper play with the device!
You must admit there's some crap shipped apps installed on it, like most of the Live Wallpaper, widgets and Layar.
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True, but if Average user uninstalls the wrong thing ..... Average user is gonna brick his phone .... Whoops !
But yeah if average user can brush up his technical skills then theres some fun to be had !

ash99 said:
But yeah if average user can brush up his technical skills then theres some fun to be had !
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lOl

For example here in Finland you need to root your Android to get Android Market for example..

It is possible to set the higher priority of some tasks? Like LauncherPro. It would react more responsible when there are another apps running with high cpu usage.
also i would like to set the priority to low of a task which installs applications from market, so the phone is more usable.
Would it be possible?
hope you got my english

rkantos said:
For example here in Finland you need to root your Android to get Android Market for example..
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Are you serious? They don't allow you access to the android market by default?

INeedYourHelp said:
Are you serious? They don't allow you access to the android market by default?
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You only get the free side without rooting.
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rkantos said:
For example here in Finland you need to root your Android to get Android Market for example..
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So does Market enabler work on the i9000?

ME works like a charm

What if I root my phone and samsung releases a new firmware.
Can I update the firmware without any issues, and will I still have root after such an upgrade?

If you gained Root with Flashing the csc file from Leshak, you simply dont flash the csc file of the new firmware and you will still have root.

FrezoreR said:
What if I root my phone and samsung releases a new firmware.
Can I update the firmware without any issues, and will I still have root after such an upgrade?
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The way Samsung handles updates is they are released in odin packages. To install these roms that are in these odins packages you must have the odin program that will install it onto your phone. The problem is that this will wipe out all your settings and apps on your phone. You could try using a backup and for your apps and settings but they don't always work when your upgrading.
Also in regards to the initial question remember you wont have wifi-tether or a huge choice of custom roms (no sense roms, no early Froyo roms). Those two reasons alone have drawn me away from Samsung. I would rather get a HTC Aria then this locked down phone.

psychoace said:
The way Samsung handles updates is they are released in odin packages. To install these roms that are in these odins packages you must have the odin program that will install it onto your phone. The problem is that this will wipe out all your settings and apps on your phone. You could try using a backup and for your apps and settings but they don't always work when your upgrading.
Also in regards to the initial question remember you wont have wifi-tether or a huge choice of custom roms (no sense roms, no early Froyo roms). Those two reasons alone have drawn me away from Samsung. I would rather get a HTC Aria then this locked down phone.
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What? No custom roms?? Why not!? :|
Still I really love this phone, think I'll get it anyway. Little bit sad that we cannot get custom roms, are you 100% sure of this?

No I said you won't get a huge choice of custom roms. Every Rom will be based off of what Samsung releases
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What? That doesn't make sense. There are already custom roms for the galaxy s. And they are in the form of an update.zip
It looks like samsung has released a real customizable device, easily rooted and a recovery that allows any update.zip without checking for checksums..
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Laum said:
You only get the free side without rooting.
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Same here in China. We can only view the free contents without rooting our phone.

oxylos said:
It is possible to set the higher priority of some tasks? Like LauncherPro. It would react more responsible when there are another apps running with high cpu usage.
also i would like to set the priority to low of a task which installs applications from market, so the phone is more usable.
Would it be possible?
hope you got my english
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Do you mean that we cannot use Launcherpro without rooting the phone? That is a awesome launcher. I think it is even better than there original launcher in the Galaxy S.

lianglqufo said:
Do you mean that we cannot use Launcherpro without rooting the phone? That is a awesome launcher. I think it is even better than there original launcher in the Galaxy S.
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No you can use launcherpro just fine without rooting the phone BUT you won't be able to connect to Kies while launcherpro is set as default. So just use a program like home switcher to temporarily set it back to samsungs launcher if you need to connect to Kies.

Flash + Update = 10MB extra

Things are getting a tad tight on internal memory so I have been taking a good close look at what is chewing up storage.
Flash Update from Market
This used 10MB in it's own right yet claims to be only an update!
So if memory serves, 2.2 has flash out of the box. So without this 10MB update, I still get flash.
Don't I???
In which case, what does this 10MB of space hog give me?

@MARK said:
Things are getting a tad tight on internal memory so I have been taking a good close look at what is chewing up storage.
Flash Update from Market
This used 10MB in it's own right yet claims to be only an update!
So if memory serves, 2.2 has flash out of the box. So without this 10MB update, I still get flash.
Don't I???
In which case, what does this 10MB of space hog give me?
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the lastest flash update is a security update, you can uninstall it and still use the stock flash that came with froyo, developers dont release security updates for no reason tho .....

AndroHero said:
the lastest flash update is a security update, you can uninstall it and still use the stock flash that came with froyo, developers dont release security updates for no reason tho .....
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Wow. a 10MB security update!!!
Why is Adobe today so much like Microsoft of old?
Sometimes, you have to wonder is Jobs has a valid point.

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Sometimes, you have to wonder is Jobs has a valid point.
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This is a funny joke.
Oh, you're being serious?
It obviously won't be all the security update. As it is, Flash is 12mb, on the Market its 5mb. It's just data etc just like every other app.
Fair enough if uninstalling the update stays at 5 or whatever mb forever, but chances are, it'll go back to 12.
Sent from my HTC Desire

is there a way to move flash to sd card.coz it does not need to be on the internal memory

GANJDROID said:
This is a funny joke.
Oh, you're being serious?
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Kind of.
Whilst I have no time for Apple, I have little time for Adobe either.
Products such as Photoshop etc are great
Acrobat and Air are the total opposite.
Bloated and full of of security holes and really heavy for the host and the network (flash is just as bad). Sounds very much like another company we all love to hate (MS?) doesn't it

mayurh said:
is there a way to move flash to sd card.coz it does not need to be on the internal memory
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Its not flash thats taking up the space, its the related libary files and they cant be moved....
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@MARK said:
Kind of.
Whilst I have no time for Apple, I have little time for Adobe either.
Products such as Photoshop etc are great
Acrobat and Air are the total opposite.
Bloated and full of of security holes and really heavy for the host and the network (flash is just as bad). Sounds very much like another company we all love to hate (MS?) doesn't it
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I totally disagree, the air runtime enviroment on android, has so many awsome possibilities and applications, as its new we are yet to see what the devs can do with it...
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So if memory serves, 2.2 has flash out of the box. So without this 10MB update, I still get flash.
Don't I???
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That is a common misconception. Android 2.2 does NOT deliver flash out of the box. It just comes with a browser that can use plugins, like flash.
If you are using a sense rom (like the official one), the browser is enhanced by HTC with flash lite, which (as the name suggests) is not a full flash implemantation. Sure you get some flash, but things like youtube in the browser just won't work with that.
€: Did not know htc included it in the update. There is always something new to learn

2.2 has full Flash 10.1 for mobile in it, 2.1 had Flash Lite

I don't think you need this update... I haven't installed it, just using the Flash 10.1 that came with the Froyo update.
I think the security update was way more important for windows users, it was released at the same time if I remember correctly.

Windows Phone 8.1 for HTC 8s would solve all problems

Hi all,
seriuously I think the worst part of this phone is the memory. With only 3 apps installed (Whatsapp, Instagram BETA and a simple To-Do-List app) my memory is constantly full. It gets so bad sometimes that the phone only shows a black screen and the clock like this.
With being able to install apps (and hopefully the app data) on the SD-card the phone would be really great again.
Does anyone know how the chances of getting 8.1 for this old phone are?

Why don`t you regularly keep fresh installations from the aps and games on your sd card?That`s how you will gain a lot of memory consumption time.
For the 8.1 update i think that we will not feel a lot performance difference cause the phone at this parent state is not so responsive like his windows phone "brothers" and "sisters" out there but surely we will get some more better options on it.
Im am particularly afraid of that "Cortana" database that they mention.I think if that thing is stored on the phone storage again it could possibly be our new space invader but let us see first, then we will talk.

cevi said:
Why don`t you regularly keep fresh installations from the aps and games on your sd card?That`s how you will gain a lot of memory consumption time.
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Because that's not the way a teenage girl (my GF's little sister) uses her low end smartphone. It keeps blacking out and not opening apps (e.g. just black sceen after tapping on the whatsapp tile). Resetting the phone frees the storage, but after some weeks it's the same all over again. Memory management seems to be totally absent on this thing. And it's so annoying to see the ~12GB free on the microSD-card.
I do not expect great performance on a sub-200$ phone. In fact, I think it's a great and beautiful phone. But I expect it to be able to handle 3(!) installed apps and their data on its own. You really shouldn't have to tinker with it to enable such basic usability.
And that"s where I hope the update will fix the phone. But doesn't matter anyway now, she'll get an iPhone 3gs, since at least that works, and she won't take any more smartphone-related advice from me after this fiasco :laugh:

phone reboots
anyone knows how to stop those reboots i get?
it looks like it started doing this after deve preview updated to :8.0.10521.155

vinscg said:
anyone knows how to stop those reboots i get?
it looks like it started doing this after deve preview updated to :8.0.10521.155
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Little off topic.You should try open a new tread for this but anyway.
I have the same firmware version and I don't have this problem of yours.
Any particular reason when does this occurs?While playing games, surfing the net, regular usage?
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cevi said:
Little off topic.You should try open a new tread for this but anyway.
I have the same firmware version and I don't have this problem of yours.
Any particular reason when does this occurs?While playing games, surfing the net, regular usage?
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at regular usage, must be hardware related?

vinscg said:
at regular usage, must be hardware related?
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If hard reset doesn`t fix it, than definitely its a hardware failure.

Problem solved, 3 coats of scoth tape under sim card. Slide it in , et voila! There was a bad contact
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Cant wait for wp8.1!!! Lets Hope it comes to 8S
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WP8.1 Installed
vinscg said:
Cant wait for wp8.1!!! Lets Hope it comes to 8S
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Installed WP8.1 today on my HTC 8S via the Preview for Developers app.
First impressions are it's very slick and my phone appears to run quicker.
I needed 704.05 free space on my phone to install WP8.1. Therefore I had to uninstall most of my apps and a couple of games.
However when reinstalling them they can now be installed to the SD card!!

nice to hear! that saving apps to SD card would solve the HUGE memory problem im waiting forward to the official release !! Awesome !

charlatan1978 said:
Installed WP8.1 today on my HTC 8S via the Preview for Developers app.
First impressions are it's very slick and my phone appears to run quicker.
I needed 704.05 free space on my phone to install WP8.1. Therefore I had to uninstall most of my apps and a couple of games.
However when reinstalling them they can now be installed to the SD card!!
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How much free space do you have internally after the WP update? Pretty excited for 8.1 to release as it basically gives the phone an excellent upgrade.

Free space
mgsstar said:
How much free space do you have internally after the WP update? Pretty excited for 8.1 to release as it basically gives the phone an excellent upgrade.
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Hi, all my apps are now on my SD card (except the Barclays app as I didn't want to go through the process of registering again and the Preview for Developers app).
I have 736.22 MB free in my internal storage.
The system shows as 2.49 GB.

Anyone know of a rom with US English(wanna try Cortana) cause my current one only has Canada and UK

charlatan1978 said:
Hi, all my apps are now on my SD card (except the Barclays app as I didn't want to go through the process of registering again and the Preview for Developers app).
I have 736.22 MB free in my internal storage.
The system shows as 2.49 GB.
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Do you still get official updates from HTC after developer unlocking your phone?

HTC updates
mgsstar said:
Do you still get official updates from HTC after developer unlocking your phone?
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Hi, yes you will still get official HTC updates (usually firmware updates).
I got further updates after downloading the GDR3 update early.

charlatan1978 said:
Installed WP8.1 today on my HTC 8S via the Preview for Developers app.
First impressions are it's very slick and my phone appears to run quicker.
I needed 704.05 free space on my phone to install WP8.1. Therefore I had to uninstall most of my apps and a couple of games.
However when reinstalling them they can now be installed to the SD card!!
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Confirmed 704MB required. I've had to do a factory reset to get previous updates on!
Installed the Dev preview app, done 4 updates since, now going to have a clearout to install this update. Let's hope it's a bit less gash with it's .1!

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Hi, yes you will still get official HTC updates (usually firmware updates).
I got further updates after downloading the GDR3 update early.
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Alright thanks for the reply! Could you guys get Cortona to work as I tried changing the region to US but it didn't work. Is there anyway to change the language on the phone to English (US) instead of English (Canada) as I don't see an option for it.
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jonnug said:
Confirmed 704MB required. I've had to do a factory reset to get previous updates on!
Installed the Dev preview app, done 4 updates since, now going to have a clearout to install this update. Let's hope it's a bit less gash with it's .1!
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Yeah I had to do it too. You would have to unlock your phone again after the reset and make sure your date is set correctly or it will create errors.

Cortana and keyboard
mgsstar said:
Alright thanks for the reply! Could you guys get Cortona to work as I tried changing the region to US but it didn't work. Is there anyway to change the language on the phone to English (US) instead of English (Canada) as I don't see an option for it.
Hi, I haven't tried getting Cortana to work.
On my phone if I go into settings > keyboard, then click the + add keyboards.
There is an option for English (United States), 22 MB.
Is this not available on your phone?
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mgsstar said:
Alright thanks for the reply! Could you guys get Cortona to work as I tried changing the region to US but it didn't work. Is there anyway to change the language on the phone to English (US) instead of English (Canada) as I don't see an option for it.
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Yeah I had to do it too. You would have to unlock your phone again after the reset and make sure your date is set correctly or it will create errors.
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I didn't bother factory resetting to get this update, I was able to delete enough apps to get it done without!
Anyone had any luck with Cortana? I've heard that it's possible by setting device region to US, although I had no luck.
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Hi, all my apps are now on my SD card (except the Barclays app as I didn't want to go through the process of registering again and the Preview for Developers app).
I have 736.22 MB free in my internal storage.
The system shows as 2.49 GB.
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I haven't managed to install any extra apps on 8.1 - it always throws up errors. Anyone else having this trouble?

AT&T OTA availible now! (Build NK3)

I am downloading an AT&T OTA right now. It is reported to be the NK3 update. So far no details, but it is bigger than the other updates being reported by other carriers, but it could be a combination of other updates.
It is showing as 223.71 MB
My Note 4 is a true AT&T phone, not an international or T-Mo version.
More as I get it, but its DL'ing kinda slow. (might be the netflix movie I am watching on another device on my network..oops!)

boufa said:
I am downloading an AT&T OTA right now. It is reported to be the NK3 update. So far no details, but it is bigger than the other updates being reported by other carriers, but it could be a combination of other updates.
It is showing as 223.71 MB
My Note 4 is a true AT&T phone, not an international or T-Mo version.
More as I get it, but its DL'ing kinda slow. (might be the netflix movie I am watching on another device on my network..oops!)
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Yeah please post update if you find out what exactly is included in that OTA

Picking up speed now that my movie has paused
Note... I had to change the date in my settings to trigger the update. I checked for an update late yesterday, and it only lets you try once every 24 hours.

Its installing now... it seems to stick a few times (55% seemed to be there forever) but it is moving on. Looks like about 5+ minutes of install time after download.

boufa said:
Its installing now... it seems to stick a few times (55% seemed to be there forever) but it is moving on. Looks like about 5+ minutes of install time after download.
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Did the OTA just showed on your screen or did you manually look for updates? I hope it shows some sort of changelog, can't find anything online about it so far...

lebertian said:
Did the OTA just showed on your screen or did you manually look for updates? I hope it shows some sort of changelog, can't find anything online about it so far...
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I had seen a possible update from a forum post on another site. ... so I forced the check for update.
It just finished and there is no change log associated with it. I'll keep playing with it and let you know what I find. The recent apps button seems slightly faster, but I might be imagining it.
Other updates (the international devices) have indicated battery performance improvements, and reduced lag on the recent apps button. Not sure what else. But those updates were smaller in size even combined.

Just got and installed the update...unfortunately no change log of any sort. Phone seems a bit more responsive after bit otherwise no changes I have noticed yet.

Also included the gear vr software

With these updates in the works someone should be uploading new stock images and associated files, no? There may be some exploit for root introduced that was not present in the earlier version.
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And I know they're just coming in, just something to keep in mind. Someone with more skill/experience may want to chime in.

Stumbled on a app DSMLawmo that I hadn't seen before... or maybe it was there and I missed it.
But also the Gear VR Apps are now installed... I KNOW they are new.
IMS Settings and IMSLogger+... are these new. They look it.
(those apps are not in the app drawer, but under the app manager "all" tab)
In addition there is an option to backup your SMS's on AT&T's cloud .. is that new? Or am I looking too hard.
Did we have evernote installed before? It looks like it is baked in as bloatware now.

I really hope this is going to fix my horrible battery life...

"horrible battery life" is a matter of opinion and circumstances. It might make it better, but it can't fix things that it isn't causing.

boufa said:
Stumbled on a app DSMLawmo that I hadn't seen before... or maybe it was there and I missed it.
But also the Gear VR Apps are now installed... I KNOW they are new.
IMS Settings and IMSLogger+... are these new. They look it.
(those apps are not in the app drawer, but under the app manager "all" tab)
In addition there is an option to backup your SMS's on AT&T's cloud .. is that new? Or am I looking too hard.
Did we have evernote installed before? It looks like it is baked in as bloatware now.
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DSMLawmo is on my AT&T Note 4, update is currently downloading too. I don't see IMS Settings or IMSLogger+, so those are new for sure.
No option to back up SMS's.
Don't remember about Evernote, I use it anyways so it may have either been installed by default or my Google account pulled it down.

Phreck said:
DSMLawmo is on my AT&T Note 4, update is currently downloading too. I don't see IMS Settings or IMSLogger+, so those are new for sure.
No option to back up SMS's.
Don't remember about Evernote, I use it anyways so it may have either been installed by default or my Google account pulled it down.
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You can no longer uninstall Evernote... so its baked in now.
I find myself reaching for the recent apps button now.... that was a quickly formed habit... and using it to flip back to an app I was using. Right now I am playing candy crush (sorry, I'm weak) and checking gmail, skypeing with my wife at work; all with a flip of the recent apps button.

Just installed it! The only difference I've seen is that Evernote is there and I can't uninstall it or disable it... I don't see any other apps, settings, etc

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You can no longer uninstall Evernote... so its baked in now.
I find myself reaching for the recent apps button now.... that was a quickly formed habit... and using it to flip back to an app I was using. Right now I am playing candy crush (sorry, I'm weak) and checking gmail, skypeing with my wife at work; all with a flip of the recent apps button.
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Also so you know, if you hold that button the menu key will work. Pretty handy for non updated apps that don't have the 3 dots.
Like xmbc remote.

sandman7793 said:
Also so you know, if you hold that button the menu key will work. Pretty handy for non updated apps that don't have the 3 dots.
Like xmbc remote.
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I know... bu there was too much of a delay before the update. I am more pleased now, but hopefully they bring it in a bit more in lollipop.
Edit... I am beginning to even forget there was any lag.... It is now very usable.

Recents key is hella faster now.

That was my only gripe...that delay. Checking for update now.
....and downloading. NIICE!
Wtf...as it downloads I'm noticing the recent is faster already. Damn you brain...

boufa said:
I am downloading an AT&T OTA right now. It is reported to be the NK3 update. So far no details, but it is bigger than the other updates being reported by other carriers, but it could be a combination of other updates.
It is showing as 223.71 MB
My Note 4 is a true AT&T phone, not an international or T-Mo version.
More as I get it, but its DL'ing kinda slow. (might be the netflix movie I am watching on another device on my network..oops!)
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If anyone else does not seem to see an up date go to Settings -> General -> About Device -> Software Updates -> Tap check for updates -> You will then start downloading the update as long as you are connected to a wireless network.

De-Bloating the Note 7 with Package Disabler

Hey Guys,
note 7 coming in tomorrow. will run a full update then I was thinking Ill lead my list from my note 5 which is the basic one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
Bad idea? or ? I feel like it will work and get most of the junk out for the people who are wanting a basic list.

mrlooolz said:
Hey Guys,
note 7 coming in tomorrow. will run a full update then I was thinking Ill lead my list from my note 5 which is the basic one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
Bad idea? or ? I feel like it will work and get most of the junk out for the people who are wanting a basic list.
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Be careful because disabling something without being sure what it is first might start a FC loop and the same can happen when updating the firmware (OTA or full firmware)!
I used to use Debloater when I had my Note 5 and several times I got weird FC loops.
I decided then to disable apps only from the App Manager when available.

Cr4z33 said:
Be careful because disabling something without being sure what it is first might start a FC loop and the same can happen when updating the firmware (OTA or full firmware)!
I used to use Debloater when I had my Note 5 and several times I got weird FC loops.
I decided then to disable apps only from the App Manager when available.
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The list in that post was sort of a safe list. That you can just load and it will disable the standard stuff. You think this wont transfer well? I can go through the basic things but there are some thing I dont know much about but had no problems when I disabled. This includes all the garbage that runs in the background to send data

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The list in that post was sort of a safe list. That you can just load and it will disable the standard stuff. You think this wont transfer well? I can go through the basic things but there are some thing I dont know much about but had no problems when I disabled. This includes all the garbage that runs in the background to send data
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Good luck then as I had issues even with common packages.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S7 edge using stock v6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware

Cr4z33 said:
Good luck then as I had issues even with common packages.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S7 edge using stock v6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware
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Oh that is scary. I hope somebody posts a list then. Sometimes I wish I was more techky.