New Kernels - Differences? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

With the new OTA kernel being tweaked and incorporated into new ROMs, it's getting hard to know which dev kernels are still current and which might be deprecated. Can anybody with more knowledge than I make a few notes comparing the more common options? I'm thinking specifically:
-The stock OTA kernel that just came out this week
-King's kernels (including - why are there two?)
-Baked Kernel #6 (included with BakedSnack 1.7)
-Netarchy-toastmod
It would be helpful to reference build numbers so this thread still makes sense when King's goes up to #9, for instance (it's currently at #8 on both versions). The highlights I'm wondering about are battery life, FPS, and any huge pluses/minuses one kernel offers over others.
And, yes, I'm selfishly looking for some direction. Flashing Baked Snack 1.7 right now, so I'll know how that kernel works, but I'm hoping to get educated in case there's a better option for me. Still looking out for the noobs who don't know a HAVS from a BFS.

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Help with kernel

Hey im new to this I flashed the dark cocoa rom to my evo and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a good kernel to flash for dark cocoa III. Also any suggestions for blacked out themes for this rom. Thank you
When I ran sense I was always with netarchys kernels so that's what I would suggest.
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I run netarchy toastmod 4.3.4 cfs havs more sbs with the Cocoa III and it works great. I also downgraded my NV and PRI to 1.77 to gain better battery life and I have diffently seen a difference.
Always give the default kernel a couple of days to settle in. Oftentimes, you will find that it is sufficient for your needs. Now, my particular device seem to perform best using certain Netarchy kernels. The one in my signature is my kernel of choice....at the moment...lol.

[Q] Flashing a custom kernel for Skyraider 4.0 ROM

Hi, I'm kind if a noob. I just recently flashed Skyraider 4.0, which is a custom Sense-based Froyo. I wanted to flash a custom kernel regarding better multitouch and possibly a better barter life on my Incredible. I was hoping to do more than two fingers, especially regarding apps like emulators and an Ocarina app. I know there's one that exists, but I'm afraid of bricking my phone. I just have to ask, because when I was in the latest non-nightly Cyanogenmod 7 ROM, it left me hanging at the white screen. Is there a proper way of flashing a kernel and keep my Skyraider ROM intact? I know I should do a backup, but is there a proper way? Maybe a custom kernel that supports that ROM with better multitouch? If I could get a kernel with 5 or even 10 finger touches, that would be great!
Flashing a kernel is really simple, just like flashing a rom. I'd recommend wiping cache and dalvik cache first (some kernels will automatically do this before installing). I believe Chad's incredikernel (sense version is 12/23) and Lou's #9 are multitouch. Multitouch is dependent on your recovery as well, I used the first post in Chad's incredikernel thread to get multitouch working on my phone, its got some helpful info.
What features are in Chad's kernel out of curiosity?
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Also, would it work no matter what ROM?
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The features are in the first post, can't really remember them offhand. His sense kernel will work on any froyo sense rom, his other kernels are AOSP and mostly gingerbread.
And the Incredikernel is sense Froyo one?
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12/23 was his last Sense kernel.
Anything newer will be strictly for AOSP ROM's.
This is because of issues Sense had with many of his newer updates.
His kernel's are generally undervolted to provide better battery life, and they manage processes in a smarter way. He also sets in a CPU change that will rev down the cpu when you turn off the screen, and this is a big help in battery life for everyone and generally does not compromise any performance. There are numerous other driver updates and whatnot what will further enhance performance, battery life and stability.
I suggest you check it out, though know it only has 2 touches. Kernels with more than 2 touches enabled tend to have a lot of issues with them, I also don't know any off-hand so I can't help you there.
From Chad's OP:
3/5 Multitouch support
Not sure what 3/5 means. There's also a link right below that 12/23 kernel that can help if you're only getting 2 touch points.
From Chad's OP:
3/5 Multitouch support I'll
Not sure what 3/5 means. There's also a link right below that 12/23 kernel that can help if you're only getting 2 touch points.
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From what I remember, some phones can only get 3, 5, or 10 touch points. This is based on your phone's hardware, which no one was able to pin down. I think chad discontinued 10 touch point support since no one will ever need that many.
Basically, provided you followed all necessary steps, that kernel will give you either 3 or 5 points, whichever your phone supports.

Newbie - Which Rom?

Hey everyone!
I'll be honest; my phone has been running sprint lovers rom since late december last year and it works great. Since then, I haven't really looked at the scene or any developments (same with android). However, I started getting prompted about the OTA update, so I figure its time to look at a new custom ROM. Sadly sprint lovers no longer appears to be updated - I liked it because everything just worked.
I have the following requirements: All phone features need to work.
So, I found the AllianceROM, from what I can tell everything works with the rom. Are there any other roms I may want to look at? Will my nand unlock and root work? Most of the rom installers say to run the latest version of autoroot - is that really necessary?
Thanks everyone, I appreciate your input!!
kingsrom alliance is great also hyrbids sense 3.0 themed all sense 3.0 rom's are Good but have horrible battery life cuz of no custom kernels because HTC hasn't released the kernel source
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I love these roms miui , decks with sz kernel sbc , cm7 with a custom kenrel sbc ,and end of days with a custom kernel with sbc
or if you want a sense rom the perfect one is warm 2.2 or konis elite series 3 with netarchys sbc kernel
myns warm 2.2 link------->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
evo decks-----------)http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078558
end of days--------->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065414
miui---------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527
cm7--------->>>>>>>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956187
konis elite series http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941055
custom kernels
dont use these 2 on sense roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917755 sz kernel sbc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972746 tiamat sbc
use this one for sense roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
Personally, I recommend CM7 along with the Tiamat Kernel, powered with viperboy's scripts.
msarro said:
Hey everyone!
I'll be honest; my phone has been running sprint lovers rom since late december last year and it works great. Since then, I haven't really looked at the scene or any developments (same with android). However, I started getting prompted about the OTA update, so I figure its time to look at a new custom ROM. Sadly sprint lovers no longer appears to be updated - I liked it because everything just worked.
I have the following requirements: All phone features need to work.
So, I found the AllianceROM, from what I can tell everything works with the rom. Are there any other roms I may want to look at? Will my nand unlock and root work? Most of the rom installers say to run the latest version of autoroot - is that really necessary?
Thanks everyone, I appreciate your input!!
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Hello there, friend.
The previous posts have everything pretty much nailed down... but there's a few thinks I have to add.
As a Newbie that I am, I have been flashing nonstop, trying many roms.
Basically and on a quick run-down of what I remember right now..:
If you want your phone to look Apple-ish, try MIUI. not everything works, or you have to jump through hoops to get it to work. Personally, not my cup of tea, but it's light (sizewise) and quick. Too many bugs, tho.
Cyanogen is the standard AOSP (Open Source) ROM. I didn't like it that much. With it, I found I am a Sense guy. Still a little buggy but 4G works (a big downfall in many AOSP ROMS).
Virus' Kingdom REVOlution is a great Sense 3.0 ROM. MY pet peeves with it are: Browser force closes (FC) and no spanish dictionary for touch input. I am bi-lingual so I NEED this. This ROM has a carrousel (sp) home window and it REALLY LOOKS NICE. It's a battery hog, but you will get that with sense 3.0 roms and 2.1 with 3.0 elements pushed into it. It's the price you pay for nice eye-candy. If you get this ROM, make sure you partition your card as directed in one of their thousands of posts. Search will do you well here. This is because the ROM occupies a lot of space in your phone and as you install apps, you will eventually be left with very low memory for your other tasks.
Mik's ROMS are very solid, but I simply don't like the way they look. Truth is, I can't be simpler than this. If you make a ROM, make it look nice. The idea behind rooting, for many, is to be able to use the hotspot capabilities, but for many of us, looks also matter. Sometimes, a LOT.
Myn's ROMS, I define with just a simple phrase: ROCK SOLID.
* Warm Z is awesome. Landscape support for main screen, polished beautiful looks and great battery life make this a keeper... if you don't care about having 4G. Since this ROM is based off the Desire HD, it has no 4G support.
* Warm 2.2 is the most solid of them all. Everything works. Towards the end, I ran my battery close to 24 hrs with this mod and the Netarchy 4.3.4 (HAVS, aggressive yaddah plus whatever, I can't remember now) and had NO ISSUES AT ALL. It was a daily for more than 2 months. With some mods that Myn lists in that same page you can make it look even nicer.
STEEL ROMS are basically stock roms that have been tweaked to WORK, and that, they do, and they do it very well. As with these kinds of ROMS, expect heavy files (anywhere from 250 - 300 MB and maybe more).
I hope this has helped you a bit, friend. Happy wiping!
yeah and viperboys scripts are badass battery life savers
Here is the link to a ROM with sprintlover's base :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118063
Try Vaelpak's GB ROM: http://vaelek.com/index.php?/forum/47-vaelpak-gingerbread-aosp/?. I recently jumped into MIUI, and its very stable, contrary to what someone else said. CM7 may be the "standard," but Deck and Vaelpak are very good AOSP ROMs. Kernel-wise (for AOSP), I love the sz kernel and viperboy's uv scripts are great.

Which Synergy rom?

hey guys i finally got my gf's gingerbread evo rooted, and i want to put the latest synergy rom on it, since i love it on my thunderbolt. im just running nightlies on mine, but i dont want to really update hers all the time. which one is the best? are the nightlies as stable on the evo as the thunderbolt or should i go with the rls 1? i want good battery life, the 3d rosie screen transitions, sense 3.0, and preferably 4g. it looks like rls 1 doesnt have 3d, do the nightlies? also any recommendations for roms you guys like are appreciated i know its better to just play around till you find one you like but i dont want to keep flashing her phone lol. anyway thanks in advance!
edit: by nightlies i mean the kingdom port nightlies, and rls1 is the one that has the godmode option, just to clear that up lol. im not missing any am i?
RLS1 is best for themes, mods, and stability. It's also device-optimized (at least in the EVO's case) so there's more room in /data (source). Try godmode or non-GM as you wish - her phone may respond well or poorly to it, or anywhere in between.
For good battery life, look into a combination of the Freedom kernel (More Freedom 0.8 is what I'm running, and it's great) and No Frills CPU Control (or other CPU control app of your choice). There are many carousel mods for Synergy; show her the thread and let her pick whichever one she likes best.
Synergy is a Sense 2.1+3.0 ROM, unlike a few other non-mainline Synergy branches, so she won't have the full Sense 3.0 experience. If you want that for sure, look at the Kingdom port - I hear many good things about it.
And remember, be safe, use a nandroid.
Great write-up, Aeltar... ... As for 'my opinion' of "which Synergy rom", I prefer Synergy RLS-1 non G-mode.
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Aeltar said:
RLS1 is best for themes, mods, and stability. It's also device-optimized (at least in the EVO's case) so there's more room in /data (source). Try godmode or non-GM as you wish - her phone may respond well or poorly to it, or anywhere in between.
For good battery life, look into a combination of the Freedom kernel (More Freedom 0.8 is what I'm running, and it's great) and No Frills CPU Control (or other CPU control app of your choice). There are many carousel mods for Synergy; show her the thread and let her pick whichever one she likes best.
Synergy is a Sense 2.1+3.0 ROM, unlike a few other non-mainline Synergy branches, so she won't have the full Sense 3.0 experience. If you want that for sure, look at the Kingdom port - I hear many good things about it.
And remember, be safe, use a nandroid.
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What exactly does Freedom do to achieve better battery? Undervolt when not in heavy use? What methods/tweak specifically? The first post in the main thread ddint say much. I don't want something that reduces my synch/update frequencies without my control.
Freedom undervolts by a static value of either 0, 50, 100, or 150 mV, corresponding to Stock, Less, More, and Aggressive. It also has several governers that lock the clock low when not in use (Smartass, InteractiveX, powersave, perhaps more of them do so). It won't alter your sync frequency - I don't believe any kernel can do so.
Synergy RLS1 without Godmode is the best one I have tested. Most things work. I can't really say anything about the nightlies, I'm afraid to put anything less than a release candidate on my phone, lol. Godmode, I have found, performs just as well as no godmode, but HTC Hub is all messed up and force closes on godmode. Also with nongodmode, you can update your PRL and profile as normal. The 3D carousel isn't there because it has the landscape option for the home screen. This is where Sense 2.1 kicks in (from Evo Shift). I beleive the camera is also sense 2.1. Also, 75 of the effects on the camera don't work on either synergy release for me, and HDR doesn't really make a noticeable difference. The panorama feature works though, and is pretty cool. Just flash em and see what you think.
awsome guys thanks a lot! ive got the rls1 running on it now, where can i find the 3d carousel mods at? also does ziggy make an evo kernel? ive been running his since i got my thunderbolt and its the best battery life/performance mix ive found
oh and synergy doesnt have working 4g does it? ive only seen one rom that claimed it did i dont remember which one
All Synergy mods are in Post #2 of the main thread.
The only Sense GB kernels right now are Freedom (by lithidcm) and Golden Monkey (by netarchy). Freedom is more developed, but I'm sure Netarchy's next release (1.2 probably) will be a major showing. I recommend More Freedom, but make sure to use Synergy-GM kernel for GM and Universal for non-GM.
Synergy has fully working 4G, and gives me much better reception than any AOSP ROM I've tried (only Deck and CM7, admittedly).
Anyone know why with any Synergy rom I flash (specifically NIghtly) my phone is running very slow and lags. I'm noob but I'm was under the idea that ROMs are supposed to speed up your phone, not slow them down. Any ideas?
Make sure you're wiping cache and dalvik cache, and try flashing both GM and non-GM versions to make sure that isn't causing an issue with your phone. A complete wipe (everything but the SD card; VR Superwipe is a good idea simply for efficiency of clicks) is strongly recommended - remember, you can simply nand data and sd-ext and restore those to get your environment back from Sense to Sense or AOSP to AOSP ROMs.

[Q] Best Kernel for AOKP 4.3?

After upgrading from CM 10.1 to AOKP 4.3, I noticed that my phone is running a CM Kernel. I guess CM installs a custom kernel and AOKP does not. My question being: Should I install a different Kernel, and which one? I am not looking for any crazy upgrades, or modifications, or however you'd like to have it put. I want a Kernel that will work well with my setup, should I just be installing a stock kernel?
Feedback is much appreciated!
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After upgrading from CM 10.1 to AOKP 4.3, I noticed that my phone is running a CM Kernel. I guess CM installs a custom kernel and AOKP does not. My question being: Should I install a different Kernel, and which one? I am not looking for any crazy upgrades, or modifications, or however you'd like to have it put. I want a Kernel that will work well with my setup, should I just be installing a stock kernel?
Feedback is much appreciated!
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I'm going to squeeze this in before this thread becomes closed/locked, but KToonsez and QuantumKernel are pretty stable. I prefer QuantumKernel a little over KToonsez because I don't have to use the KTweaker app (It's GUI is not my cup of tea).
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I'm going to squeeze this in before this thread becomes closed/locked, but KToonsez and QuantumKernel are pretty stable. I prefer QuantumKernel a little over KToonsez because I don't have to use the KTweaker app (It's GUI is not my cup of tea).
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Why will it be locked? Also, what's the difference between say running AOKP on stock Kernel, and using one of the various others?
Many custom kernels have different customization in the form of, for example new governors. Quantum has new governors like smartmax, interactiveX, intellidemand and asswax (yeah, really) tha the stock CM kernel does not have which serves different purposes depending if you like battery life or insane performance. For AOKP, I know Task650's comes with one of KToonsez kernels (hence the bootanimation) which can save more battery than what I'm guessing the stock AOKP builds come with. Oh yeah, the reason I added "before it gets closed/locked" is because 90% of Q&A threads that ask for the best of whatever, usually get locked by the mods since they encourage people to search and for people to make personal decisions based on what they find. Sorry about that, I know that makes me sound like an a*****e.
Being that AOKP is based off of CyanogenMod, or rather they are both based off of AOSP source code, it stands to reason they would use the same kernel. FWIW, Task's ROM hasn't used KT747 (ktooonzes kernel) for many months, although i have continued to run the combo with no problems. His 4.3 builds also include the CM kernel.

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