After upgrading from CM 10.1 to AOKP 4.3, I noticed that my phone is running a CM Kernel. I guess CM installs a custom kernel and AOKP does not. My question being: Should I install a different Kernel, and which one? I am not looking for any crazy upgrades, or modifications, or however you'd like to have it put. I want a Kernel that will work well with my setup, should I just be installing a stock kernel?
Feedback is much appreciated!
Wheelzz said:
After upgrading from CM 10.1 to AOKP 4.3, I noticed that my phone is running a CM Kernel. I guess CM installs a custom kernel and AOKP does not. My question being: Should I install a different Kernel, and which one? I am not looking for any crazy upgrades, or modifications, or however you'd like to have it put. I want a Kernel that will work well with my setup, should I just be installing a stock kernel?
Feedback is much appreciated!
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I'm going to squeeze this in before this thread becomes closed/locked, but KToonsez and QuantumKernel are pretty stable. I prefer QuantumKernel a little over KToonsez because I don't have to use the KTweaker app (It's GUI is not my cup of tea).
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I'm going to squeeze this in before this thread becomes closed/locked, but KToonsez and QuantumKernel are pretty stable. I prefer QuantumKernel a little over KToonsez because I don't have to use the KTweaker app (It's GUI is not my cup of tea).
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Why will it be locked? Also, what's the difference between say running AOKP on stock Kernel, and using one of the various others?
Many custom kernels have different customization in the form of, for example new governors. Quantum has new governors like smartmax, interactiveX, intellidemand and asswax (yeah, really) tha the stock CM kernel does not have which serves different purposes depending if you like battery life or insane performance. For AOKP, I know Task650's comes with one of KToonsez kernels (hence the bootanimation) which can save more battery than what I'm guessing the stock AOKP builds come with. Oh yeah, the reason I added "before it gets closed/locked" is because 90% of Q&A threads that ask for the best of whatever, usually get locked by the mods since they encourage people to search and for people to make personal decisions based on what they find. Sorry about that, I know that makes me sound like an a*****e.
Being that AOKP is based off of CyanogenMod, or rather they are both based off of AOSP source code, it stands to reason they would use the same kernel. FWIW, Task's ROM hasn't used KT747 (ktooonzes kernel) for many months, although i have continued to run the combo with no problems. His 4.3 builds also include the CM kernel.
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I was just wondering what are the lightest (as in space), smoothest yet good looking roms out there.
Personally, can't go wrong with CM7. Xplod by Team Nocturnal, also AOSP, is a great rom. If you want small [as in space] then you will want AOSP, as sense roms are always bigger.
Yeah aosp for sure, salvagemod,cm like Roxx said etc. These are all pretty light rom's.
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Small+smooth+good looking=MIUI
I personally love aosp aswell but everytime i flash one, my wimax doesnt go as fast as with sense roms... If it wasnt for that, id most def. Be on cm7
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Try Deck and then flash the Savage Zen BFS HAVS kernel. The Rom is based on CM7 but with all the bling that CM ads removed. The savage zen kernel gave me disgustingly good battery life. The whole Rom as is, is under 80mb. Can't get much lighter than that. sz kernel should resolve your wimax speed issue too. I notice that 4G always seemed slower on CM's kernel (which is what most of the AOSP roms use, including Miui). SZ's kernel fixed a lot of little things like that.
O cool thnx man, does sz kernel support hdmi also?
You've got great information above. AOSP is always smaller, lighter. I'm using kushdeck's gingerbread-evo-deck 1.3d (GB v2.3.5), which is built on a solid Cyanogenmod base. It's technically still a beta of GB v2.3.5, but I have as yet to have any issue with it. Plus, if like me you like the stock Vicual Voice Mail, use the ed-gapps with vm. Note that CM did this first and has this available also.
Both the SZ and Tiamat kernels support HDMwIn, have sbc versions available, etc. I find that the latest Tiamat 4.0.8 kernel works the best for me overall but of course your phone may feel otherwise.
Oh, a nice trick if you have issues with Wifi, Wimax or GPS after flashing an AOSP ROM. Once your ROM is built, make a nand backup of it. Now, flash one of the rooted stock ROMs (I use virus's 453.651.1). Once its flashed and you boot up, immediately reboot into recovery and restore your backup of your favorite AOSP ROM. This works because some drivers (like the GPS driver) are or can be changed/updated during a flash, but are not during a restore.
This has fixed non-functioning & poorly functioning GPS for many (including me), fixed wifi issues for some, and a few say that it improved their wimax speeds. If you're experiencing any of those issues, it only costs a few minutes of your time to find out, but of course that's your decision.
Anyway, I hope that the info is useful. Thank you for your time.
xcpefrmreality said:
Small+smooth+good looking=MIUI
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+1 on MIUI
Shooter 3D pretty good
with chopsuey 9.2.6
I am having a serious amount of trouble trying to decide what ROMs to flash and which to leave in the dust. I'm also contemplating cyanogenmod, but it's still beta. HELP!
"best" is really subjective. Everyone has their own tastes. I say stick with stock for a while, at least you know you will get the OTA updates. If it meets your needs, great. Read up on the features of each ROM, and see if any of the features are interesting to you, try them out.
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"best" is really subjective. Everyone has their own tastes. I say stick with stock for a while, at least you know you will get the OTA updates. If it meets your needs, great. Read up on the features of each ROM, and see if any of the features are interesting to you, try them out.
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I know it's subjective. I want a general idea of what the best ROM would be all around. I'll wait for cyanogenmod 9... Either way, I'm happy with stock, I see so many ROMs in the development section that I feel confused. And I only wanted a general, basic suggestion. Maybe you (or someone else) could give me at least that?
What do you feel you would gain by going to a custom rom?
daleski75 said:
What do you feel you would gain by going to a custom rom?
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Little enhancements for ICS. Speed enhancements. Optimizations. Tweakability. Flashing different kernels for OC and UV support (although I don't fully understand it). insecure boot image. Root (although you don't necessarily need a custom ROM for the latter two)...
Not a big fan of themes.
I guess, I've used cyanogen exclusively on my Nexus One, and my Nexus S. I want to branch out and try other ROMs, but I'm also not a flash head. I'd rather find one good ROM and stick with it (like I'm doing with stock). I've tried MoDaCo's (Paul O'Brien's stuff) and Android Revolution HD, and I feel like they're not too different than stock, so I revert back. What do you use?
Thanks.
Try out the gummi rom. It's based off the 4.0.3 build and basically stock, which IMO is perfect. It has the extended power down menu (reboot/recovery/bootloader), the battery percentage in the battery icon. And the Gapps for it includes Google Wallet which is nice. The kernel it's running can be overclocked and undervolted. All in all its a very nice looking rom and I haven't ran into a problem with it yet.
I prefer Android Open Kang Project by Roman, or Bigxie's AOSP 4.0.3 stock w/optimizations (currently using) with Franco Kernel (nightly 3)
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Try out the gummi rom. It's based off the 4.0.3 build and basically stock, which IMO is perfect. It has the extended power down menu (reboot/recovery/bootloader), the battery percentage in the battery icon. And the Gapps for it includes Google Wallet which is nice. The kernel it's running can be overclocked and undervolted. All in all its a very nice looking rom and I haven't ran into a problem with it yet.
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That sounds really good. I think I might try it out.
RMatt1992 said:
I prefer Android Open Kang Project by Roman, or Bigxie's AOSP 4.0.3 stock w/optimizations (currently using) with Franco Kernel (nightly 3)
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Thanks man, I just feel like I don't want to deal with nightlies. This phone is my daily driver so I want something stable. That's why stock is kicking so much ass right now. But obviously owning a Nexus I feel like I missing out on some really important mods and what not.
I want a ROM that doesn't require a lot of maintenance.
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I would definitely recommend Roman's AOKP. There's nothing unstable about it and it offers more customization than anything else released currently.
i downloaded the gummi one but heard of people having gapps issues so hesitated. currently using ZYGOT3 1.3 as it specified "final" and was posted by Droid Th3ory who made tons of roms for the Thunderbolt & a few Bionic ones. seems stable so far & better then stock.
Anyone feel that 4.0.3 is a bit more laggy in certain areas than 4.0.1 (or 4.0.2)?
I notice right away that the task switcher is a lot quicker (no lag on pushing the button) with 4.0.3 but I noticed everything else a bit more sluggish. Watching the apps flow in when pushing the app drawer button is chunky with 4.0.3 and pulling down the notification bar stutters as well.
This is my experience with AOKP and Bigxie's AOSP which are both 4.0.3 ROMs compared with the stock 4.0.1 ROM that came with the phone.
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I would definitely recommend Roman's AOKP. There's nothing unstable about it and it offers more customization than anything else released currently.
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I'll give that a shot as well. Thank you.
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OK I know its my personal preference to choose between roms, but i also want to know yours. I like arhd cause other stability and stock feel, but aokp is also great since I get much more control of my phone, with that said sometimes , this 'control' can lead to stability issues with the rom. So what do you think is bettr overall?
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ARHD is more stable, AOKP has 4.0.3 and more mods. Just try it.
Im on ARHD btw
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AOKP because it is 4.0.3 and has more choices for kernels such as Franco.
AOKP is more stable than ARHD imo. Stick to milestones if you're worried about stability.
I switched to AOKP after being on ARHD.
AOKP has more customization, less boot time and more battery!
The only instances of instability I had on this device came when using ARHD. Currently using AOKP and it absolutely flies with Franco's kernel. 4.0.3 is a massive leap over 4.0.2, it's like moving from a beta build to final. Having in built mods is one of the benefits of choosing a ROM built from source, and not just based on the stock images.
Regards.
AOKP here also, fast and stable...never had a reboot, blazing fast with franco's kernel overclocked @1350mhz.
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i'm happy with ARHD 2.1.3 (4.0.2)
is there a changelog for 4.0.3, what incentives are there to upgrade, my phone is stable and fast as it is.
LE: found something: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.3.html
but they seem more API improvements rather than actual bug fixes or new (visible/usable) features
also here
http://dkgadget.com/upcoming-androi...on-new-camera-capabilities-and-tons-of-fixes/
"....tons of fixes" -> like what for example?
Both are great ROMs, and I've used both. I'm going with AOKP for now, because you get:
4.0.3
toggles in notification bar
4 way lock screen
raised the default auto brightness default (fixable on ARHD)
Hold back button to kill app (die facebook, die)
Power menu add-ons
No stability issues for me (build 17)
Yesterday I had 1 day and 1.5 hours, with about 2.5 hours screen time on auto brightness
AOKP just saves me a lot of trouble with its built in tweaks, so I don't have to go hunt them down myself.
One con: the unicorn boot animation... Easily fixable though, there are a bunch of boot animation choices in the themes section.
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i'm happy with ARHD 2.1.3 (4.0.2)
is there a changelog for 4.0.3, what incentives are there to upgrade, my phone is stable and fast as it is.
LE: found something: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.3.html
but they seem more API improvements rather than actual bug fixes or new (visible/usable) features
also here
http://dkgadget.com/upcoming-androi...on-new-camera-capabilities-and-tons-of-fixes/
"....tons of fixes" -> like what for example?
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The overall smoothness and performance of apps, especially the browser, is much improved. When I was using ARHD, I was slightly disappointed with this device coming from a SGS2 and could understand the threads and posts about lag etc.
I challenge you to try a 4.0.3 ROM and come back and tell me it isn't a much faster/smoother experience.
Here is an example of the improved browser performance on The Verge website, which was famously shown to lag heavily on many video reviews (4.0.2).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN27yZQWfU0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Regards.
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ARHD is more stable
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I don't see how ARHD is more stable. I never had a single reboot with AOKP build 19.
judging from what you guys have said aokp looks like the winner here, and yes I've got to say browser is much improved from stock 4.0.2. Then again I need to try out arhd. But I will most likely use cm9 when it releases it final. Has anyone used the alpha builds? How are they on battery life?
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I thought ARHD might be more stable but to my surprise and delight I've had an even better experience with AOKP.
It's hard to beat anything AOSP based, especially with so many mods and tweaks. Usually you sacrifice stability with ROMs like this but not in this case. It's amazingly well polished and I have no complaints at all. Blown away with AOKP.
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I thought ARHD might be more stable but to my surprise and delight I've had an even better experience with AOKP.
It's hard to beat anything AOSP based, especially with so many mods and tweaks. Usually you sacrifice stability with ROMs like this but not in this case. It's amazingly well polished and I have no complaints at all. Blown away with AOKP.
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My thoughts exactly - I was hesitant at first to move away from ARHD because stability is important for me. I've been running AOKP this past week (milestone 2) and just loaded on the franco kernel the other day and my phone has been MORE stable. On ARHD I did have the occasional hiccup/stutter/lag and an odd issue where my touchscreen failed me - fixed only with a battery pull.
Since AOKP + franco - no issues with an overall smoother experience. Battery life has been comparable to ARHD + faux123 v10 mainline kerrnel - well over a full day's use without even thinking about reaching for my charger
Haven't even tried arhd, but I use AOKP, I like it. 4.0.3 or bust
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Haven't even tried arhd, but I use AOKP, I like it. 4.0.3 or bust
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What he said.
are you all using the stock kernel that came with AOKP or Franco?
If franco, what are your governor settings, UV settings, etc?
with AOKP do you mean
[ROM][AOSP 4.0.3] Android Open Kang Project - maguro build 20
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Yes either the latest build or the milestone 2. The builds are nightlys and are updated more frequently with the newest features but they may be more buggy. That said many people on the forums seem to run them without much issue. The milestone releases are meant to be bugfree and complete as described in the AOKP thread.
I'm using the default Franco settings - I don't think I know better than he does when it comes to optimizing a kernel and I have no complaints with regards to performance or battery life..
Ive been using AOKP and Franco since i got my Nexus last week, and its worked beautifully. This morning i switched to LeanKernel in order to see if it would improve battery life. Will report back on my findings.
Sorry I'm new from the Nexus S, but is AOKP similar to CM? I pretty much always used CM derivatives.
Can anyone recommend a ROM for someone who likes a stable phone, but also wants features like OC? I'd love to have something that auto updates (or manually updates) over the air so I don't have to keep re-installing all my apps. Currently on Android Revolution 2.1.3, but it reboots daily.
I would go with AOKP but to be honest getting recommendations from others is useless. You should put a few different roms on your phone and play with each for a few days to see which one you like. I did that but always ended up going back to AOKP. Have fun.
I recommend Apex
by bigxie + nova launcher. Stable, fast, excellent battery life, OCUV included.
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Can anyone recommend a ROM for someone who likes a stable phone, but also wants features like OC? I'd love to have something that auto updates (or manually updates) over the air so I don't have to keep re-installing all my apps. Currently on Android Revolution 2.1.3, but it reboots daily.
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I have tried a few of the available ROM's and so far the two I like the best are the Manhattan and Fox Hound ROM. Great battery life and very stable. Just passing along my experience on the GN GSM.
I recommend you make a Nandroid of your current set up and start downloading and flashing, just a thought...
curious as to why these threads pop up day after day the answers you are looking for are in the 1st page in development section. the popular roms stay on the first page, the popular kernels are included in the popular roms, and popular kernels as a stand alone generally stay on page one as well. each device acts differently to each rom/kernel, the CPUs are like snowflakes. no two are made alike, therefor a device that flies on rom 1 and kernel 2 may not runs as good as your buddies device with the same software he is using, rom 2 with kernel 1.
I would like to install AOKP, just wandering if it works with 4.0.2 it says its built off 4.0.3 so wasn't too sure. Also everyone uses francos kernel, but I wasn't sure if it works on CDMA phones when kernel is GSM? Or am i totally wrong im learning flashing soo im a newb still lol
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I would like to install AOKP, just wandering if it works with 4.0.2 it says its built off 4.0.3 so wasn't too sure. Also everyone uses francos kernel, but I wasn't sure if it works on CDMA phones when kernel is GSM? Or am i totally wrong im learning flashing soo im a newb still lol
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A ROM like AOKP replaces your old system. So no need to worry about what's on your phone now.
As for the CDMA part, look in the CDMA developer section. All the comparable kernels, ROMs, etc will be in there.
psone said:
Can anyone recommend a ROM for someone who likes a stable phone, but also wants features like OC? I'd love to have something that auto updates (or manually updates) over the air so I don't have to keep re-installing all my apps. Currently on Android Revolution 2.1.3, but it reboots daily.
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It all depends on what you want but i love the following one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427441
I'm not too new to Android. I'm not a developer, just a lover of the system. I hated the stock rom on my SGS3 and rooted and flashed the device to put some new roms on it. I've bounced around from rom to rom. I've settled on the ParanoidAOKPdroid rom.
I have some problems with it being stable (mostly sleep of deaths), but I expect that with any custom rom. So my question to you guys is this, What AOKP rom is the best rom that you've found? What one is the most stable, easiest to use, ect..
I found aokp on my samsung infuse 4g. I used to try a new rom every two weeks or so. Once I installed aokp on my infuse I have not had any real desire to go to any other rom which has xfered to my sgs3. I'm currently using task and ktoonsez's aokp and haven't tried the other ones for the s3 to give you my opinion on them.
Ive used task's aokp before. Its pretty solid and stable. I dont recall getting SOD on his aokp. I would recommend giving it a try.
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Yeah, I use task's and toonz AOKP rom as well. Its amazing. Can't go back to TW after this.
I've run AOKP on my past Galaxy Player 5.0, and now I'm using task's AOKP on my GS3. It's really great - a lot of useful new features (which makes it much easier in day-to-day use), it's really fast, but I wouldn't call it quite as stable as touchwiz roms. It's not actually unstable at all, just touchy sometimes. I've never had a sleep of death or anything running task's ROM, usually any funkyness is my fault.
There's a definite learning curve to AOKP, it's a much more "vanilla android" experience than touchwiz but it's worth it. I just make sure I have a backup in TWRP (or CWM if you choose to use it) made frequently while I'm playing with stuff. Get AOKP installed and stable => do a backup. Install some more stuff, get it stable => do a backup, etc. This way you can play with stuff and not worry about breaking anything, you can go right back to where you were if you happen to make it unstable in any way.
Oh, and KT747 kernel is definitely worth a try too. EXCELLENT kernel.