Hello
There were devs that got ubuntu debian to run on the slide id like to see if we can't do the same with xubuntu using lxde in theory it should run much smoother than ubuntu debian
Id like to see 10.04 lucid lynx but if its not compatible please let me know otherwise we can use 9.10 karmic
I'm completely new to linux so help is definitely appreciated. Thank you.
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First off, there's no such thing as "ubuntu debian". Ubuntu is a derivative of debian, but the correct terminology is "ubuntu linux" or simply "ubuntu". Ubuntu is ubuntu with gnome for the desktop environment, kubuntu is the same ubuntu product, only it uses KDE as the desktop env. instead of gnome. Same for xubuntu, etc. Debian is an entirely different product, off which ubuntu is based. But they are still different OS's. The reason the thread says "ubuntu/debian" is cus you can do either debian or ubuntu.
That being said, it IS entirely possible to do this, all you hafta do is do it the way they do in tut, then delete gnome and install lxde...then you will have xubuntu cys that's the only difference is the desktop environment. If you install KDE you'll have Kubuntu...its all the same just depends on which desktop environment you use. Lxde should be a much better choice.
I remember when we were doing this on the G1 I installed debian with iceWM and I couldn't even vnc into the desktop cus iceWM is kindof a heavyweight like gnome, but I deleted ice and installed lxde and it would get to the desktop and you could actually do stuff as long as it wasn't very memory-intensive.
Just do it the normal way then delete gnome and install lxde...that's the best way...
-BMFC
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Hi guys.
I've a Rasperry PI and I would like to have the X11 display on my Windows RT screen via SSH or something else.
It's already possible if you have Windows (not RT version), using Putty and Xming but Xming is not available as far as I know under RT.
Anyone has an idea?
In my experience the X11 performance on the pi is just terrible for my liking, I run the pi without it (or did, damaged the SD card socket and am yet to attempt repair although I have several methods for how to do so). To be fair, I didnt need X11 on the pi anyway, only graphical thing I ran at all was open arena.
Something which may work (although not as well as Putty+XMing) is VNC. The pi is capable of acting as both VNC server or client with X11 running. TightVNC has been ported to jailbroken windows RT devices, both server and client modes functioning.
I'm not aware of any X11 servers for RT right now, sadly. Xming, as its name suggests, is compiled using MinGW GCC; currently we can't use that to target RT.
That's what I thought
I tried VNC and indeed it's working but kind of slow.
Thanks guys :good:
Gotcha007 said:
That's what I thought
I tried VNC and indeed it's working but kind of slow.
Thanks guys :good:
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There is a RDP relay server available for linux, called xrdp (can't post links yet, but it's a first hit on google for 'xrdp')
xrdp lets you connect to your linux machine via RDP and allows you to define different profiles, to relay your RDP connection to services hosted on you linux machine like vnc or x11.
As we know, we have an arm edtion of dosbox, and there is Turbo C++ for dosbox. So, I wonder if it's possible to compile .cpp files on RT by TC++ in dosbox? I am with 8.1 now. Is there anyone who wants to try?
No jailbreak for 8.1 as far as now. On 8.0 should work if it's working on your desktop.
Just keep in mind whatever you get cannot run on Windows RT natively.
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Just keep in mind whatever you get cannot run on Windows RT natively.
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So there is no ide or any compiler for c at all? Quite strange Microsoft didn't made an afford for a tablet supposed to be for students....
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So there is no ide or any compiler for c at all? Quite strange Microsoft didn't made an afford for a tablet supposed to be for students....
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MSVC from visual studio can target win32 on THUMB_2. That does mean you can only cross compile from a full x86 windows machine though.
There is a C# compiler on the device already. There is a signed perl binary somewhere. The C# compiler requires a jailbroken device to run the final application though and I doubt you'll find any students using perl.
I think its obvious that microsoft dont push developer tools too heavily considering you need a jailbreak to run non microsoft desktop software in the first place.
On jailbroken devices you have IKVM (which is a java virtual machine, its slow and nowhere near 100% compatible, there is no java compiler on the device yet), python and ruby. There is also SharpDevelop for C#, otherwise you have to use the compiler from CMD. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
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MSVC from visual studio can target win32 on THUMB_2. That does mean you can only cross compile from a full x86 windows machine though.
There is a C# compiler on the device already. There is a signed perl binary somewhere. The C# compiler requires a jailbroken device to run the final application though and I doubt you'll find any students using perl.
I think its obvious that microsoft dont push developer tools too heavily considering you need a jailbreak to run non microsoft desktop software in the first place.
On jailbroken devices you have IKVM (which is a java virtual machine, its slow and nowhere near 100% compatible, there is no java compiler on the device yet), python and ruby. There is also SharpDevelop for C#, otherwise you have to use the compiler from CMD. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
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Unfortunately jailbroken device is not an option with the 8.1 (at least for now), well I guess the only thing to do is to wait for one.....
alxr212 said:
Unfortunately jailbroken device is not an option with the 8.1 (at least for now), well I guess the only thing to do is to wait for one.....
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I'm well aware that jailbreak isnt an option on 8.1. Myriachan is working on it
Hi
Been wondering if there was anyway to emulate or run a virtual win environment on our little tab?
Was thinking along the lines of Xp or Win 7...
Anyone?
DeBoX said:
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Been wondering if there was anyway to emulate or run a virtual win environment on our little tab?
Was thinking along the lines of Xp or Win 7...
Anyone?
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Not possible.
Not running Windows per se, but the Microsoft RDP client on Android linked to a Windows PC works very well.
I don't think we'll ever see the Windows kernel running on the Exynos chipset TBH, at the least it would require virtualization or emulation that would require a lot of coding and in any case Windows would place a much larger overhead on the processors than Android or Linux.
Windows RT, the Microsoft "equivalent" of Android (i.e. designed to run on a low-powered chipset), has not been very well received due to its much reduced command set. It looks like Windows desktop, but it cannot run full-blown Windows desktop applications.
FWIW
Ok, figured I'd ask. I know there were a decent number of virtualisation projects a while back, but usually focused around win98 etc
Though I'd love a stripped xp version on this tab
Could always use Citrix Receiver
could you elaborate a bit?
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could you elaborate a bit?
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Heres a link all the info is there most probably best to use gotomypc By the same devs though mate.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.citrix.Receiver
Well contrary to the "impossible" brigade... a VM with CPU emulation allows all kinds of impossible feats.
PearPC being an example or VirtualPC on old PPC Macs, etc etc. ! There are of course limitations. But the point is x86 & some basic HW emulation will allow you to run Windows as long as what's being emulated is of good enough spec for the version of Windows you want.
The bottleneck is almost always the speed the CPU emulation runs at, and that depends on both host and target architecture and there are different approaches with different advantages/drawbacks.
I've used BOCHS on my 10.1 (original) to run win98 (slooowly) - and others have got XP running (google is your friend) I chose 98 as it's basically DOS +GUI so I figured it might work better. I've not invested a lot of effort as the emulation and integration of UI elements isn't brilliant (yet).
There's a link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389700
There are other x86 emulators like DOSBOX/QEMU running on ARM but as with all emulation it's never going to be as quick as a real CPU! That said some DOS games play well I believe.
I've not tried it on my 10.1 (2014) so can't comment on how it good it is there. Can't see how it would be worse!
YMMV.
Someone ported Bochs (x86 PC Emulator) to the Surface (h t t p://w w w.windows-arm.c o m/index.p h p/desktop-apps-for-windows-rt/697-bochs-for-windows-rt), and I want to know how to set up Ubuntu 12.10 with it.
It's too slow, just forget about it.
Would a different os work?
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It's too slow, just forget about it.
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I've seen people running Windows XP on their Android phones using Bochs. Could you use a Windows OS?
An old-enough version of either Windows or Linux (or any other OS that runs on x86) will work, but I don't think you realize how slow we're talking about. It's not that you *couldn't* run 12.10 (or the decade-older XP), it's just that they'd be too slow to be of any use. You'll be much better off using native-ported apps, or even Mamaich's emulation layer; unlike emulating a full PC using Bochs, the emu layer only has to translate the program's code; most of its work can be done by native (ARM) Windows code and there's no need to emulate an entire x86 processor (with memory management and so on). Even so, the emu layer struggles with anything newer than about a decade old...
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An old-enough version of either Windows or Linux (or any other OS that runs on x86) will work, but I don't think you realize how slow we're talking about. It's not that you *couldn't* run 12.10 (or the decade-older XP), it's just that they'd be too slow to be of any use. You'll be much better off using native-ported apps, or even Mamaich's emulation layer; unlike emulating a full PC using Bochs, the emu layer only has to translate the program's code; most of its work can be done by native (ARM) Windows code and there's no need to emulate an entire x86 processor (with memory management and so on). Even so, the emu layer struggles with anything newer than about a decade old...
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Aw, man. Oh, well. Guess no Ubuntu any time soon.
Are DOS programs able to run on win RT? I have a Fjölnir compiler I would like to run and it is for DOS. I currently use it on my win98se setup, but I would like to use it on the go.
Qiangong2
Are you running Windows RT 8.0 by any chance? If so you can run the "jailbreak", and DosBox is available:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36620852&postcount=117
I use it quite a bit and it works great on my Surface RT. If this is a true DOS program it should work.
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Are you running Windows RT 8.0 by any chance? If so you can run the "jailbreak", and DosBox is available:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36620852&postcount=117
I use it quite a bit and it works great on my Surface RT. If this is a true DOS program it should work.
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No, I'm on 8.1 I've tried it on dosbox on my Linux setup and it only sometimes works. I was wondering if it is possible to run them nativrly like on win98se
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You could always try it and see, but I highly doubt it. Trying to run it natively via the command prompt you will probably run up against the fact that Windows RT devices are ARM not x86. DosBox masks that by providing a software layer to presents a virtual x86 DOS environment, whereas the command prompt will not and will expect compiled programs to be compiled for the ARM cpu architecture (not to mention digitally signed by Microsoft unless you run the jailbreak). Unless it happens to be a batchfile...
That's odd that it only sometimes works in DosBox... I wonder if some tweaking of the DosBox configuration might be needed... I'm really not much of an expert, but I know there are all sorts of settings that can be changed to suit the program (side note, I think it's awesome that one can set it to emulate a Tandy 1000).
There are rumors that a RT 8.1 jailbreak might finally become a possibility...
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You could always try it and see, but I highly doubt it. Trying to run it natively via the command prompt you will probably run up against the fact that Windows RT devices are ARM not x86. DosBox masks that by providing a software layer to presents a virtual x86 DOS environment, whereas the command prompt will not and will expect compiled programs to be compiled for the ARM cpu architecture (not to mention digitally signed by Microsoft unless you run the jailbreak). Unless it happens to be a batchfile...
That's odd that it only sometimes works in DosBox... I wonder if some tweaking of the DosBox configuration might be needed... I'm really not much of an expert, but I know there are all sorts of settings that can be changed to suit the program (side note, I think it's awesome that one can set it to emulate a Tandy 1000).
There are rumors that a RT 8.1 jailbreak might finally become a possibility...
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It's my company's surface rt, so... I will get the win10rt upgrade no matter what I do
Thanks though
Qiangong2
Qiangong2 said:
It's my company's surface rt, so... I will get the win10rt upgrade no matter what I do
Thanks though
Qiangong2
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Just an FYI but I am pretty sure there will never be a Windows 10 RT. The last I heard Win10 was not coming to RT, but there would likely be an update to give some Win10 features to RT.