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I know that you hardcore coders and creators of these awesome works are constantly at it tweaking and improving ROM's. But are any of you guys ever just "satisfied" with a rom? Saying "yep, this is the one for me" a quick paypal tip and off you go.
I am still quite a newbie and just did my first flash a couple days ago. I believe it was vp3g. Overall pretty pleased, and by the time I add some of the apps that I like, and add some personal touches I am pretty content. Of course until I see the interface on Schap's, especially the upcoming things he's got going. That will likely be what I switch to if I do. My key desires are speed, UI, and mostly finger friendly. Thought I wanted iPhone-like but after trying things like ifonz I am not so sure. VERY nice program and look dont get me wrong. Just a bit cumbersome at times. Not to mention a program always running.
Just curious. Because if my phone had came with this rom, and its vastly improved speed I would probably have never looked into this stuff. But I am very glad I did as this stuff is awesome and I tip my hats to you all.
I understand your sentiment as some of us guys flash a ROM a week. I myself try to stick with one until another fixes some misgivings I have or has a feature that I want. I am going to try and stay with my present ROM as long as I can but you do get a bug for these things.
It's a pain in the arse really as just when I've configured things the way I want out comes a tempting new ROM, with new build and promises of improved stability and greater speed...
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I understand your sentiment as some of us guys flash a ROM a week. I myself try to stick with one until another fixes some misgivings I have or has a feature that I want. I am going to try and stay with my present ROM as long as I can but you do get a bug for these things.
It's a pain in the arse really as just when I've configured things the way I want out comes a tempting new ROM, with new build and promises of improved stability and greater speed...
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Cool. This is kind of my thoughts as well. It does take some time to get it to your liking. And then.....
Flashing freakes right here
Cmon, i flash rom's at least 4 times a day!
In the last month I have maybe flashed my rom thirty times at the least .
Right now sticking with v20 dhva lite as I got everything a five mb pp and thirty mb memmory.
Correction : Omnia build out, here we go again with flashing
hmm
I am about to say yes, there is, and that would be this latest ROM from the chef abusalza.
The thing is you always want to have the latest MS OS build, what ever device these clever chefs have ported. One build is guaranteed to be better than the next, and it is I feel a MS testing ground. And there are chefs that are out there now are amazing. A number has left us, and new ones are coming on board.
What a bunch of geeks, but yeah ... I am going to rest my flashing for a while now.
I get urges to flash, but mostly after testing most I go back to CRC's latest.
They just work best for me!
(hoping for a new dev build soon)
muahahahahaha NEVER!!!...jk...i usually try to look for the best performance and battery...most ROMs are the same just with the chefs preferences.my 0.02.take care
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Cmon, i flash rom's at least 4 times a day!
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That's insane! So you do it stricktly for testing purposes? There is no way to tell if it's "the one" for you in such a time frame. Unless it's just horrible, like I said it takes time to get accustomed to it and make some changes.
I almost feel bad saying that I am going to change my starter rom (vp3G) just due to a few quirks I have found and things I have read and seen on the others that I am interested in.
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That's insane! So you do it stricktly for testing purposes? There is no way to tell if it's "the one" for you in such a time frame. Unless it's just horrible, like I said it takes time to get accustomed to it and make some changes.
I almost feel bad saying that I am going to change my starter rom (vp3G) just due to a few quirks I have found and things I have read and seen on the others that I am interested in.
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I think once i went though about 20 roms in one day its all good fun.
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I think once i went though about 20 roms in one day its all good fun.
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Man. You go through ROM's like I go through beer, but without the hangover. Though I must say, I have never turned into a brick from drinking too much.
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Man. You go through ROM's like I go through beer, but without the hangover. Though I must say, I have never turned into a brick from drinking too much.
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Well he has to flash, wouldn't get those results without flashing! Thanks Veyka
i know the feeling of never being satisfied, as of now i went through atleast 15-25 roms in 8 hours because i didnt like the last one. No lie, from 12:35am to 7:00AM.. i didnt have much of a problem with it because its a learning curve to see what each rom has to offer and that i backed up all my data
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i know the feeling of never being satisfied, as of now i went through atleast 15-25 roms in 8 hours because i didnt like the last one. No lie, from 12:35am to 7:00AM..
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U need an XDA Therapy Class...see post #9 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419201
The G1, the original Android phone released to the public, my third or fourth cell phone, has CM7 support. It was released by HTC as Pure-Android. It has CM7 and is no longer updated by T-Mobile or HTC, but CM7 still supports it, so I was wondering how they have it without any Kernel releases and we need a Kernel, even though our phone is newer. Answers please?
[QUOTE=Original Android
Because they know that they aren't getting anything to work with, and know that if they want it, that have to build it. We are still receiving updates, so we have to wait. What'd be the point of building our own stuff, just to get official a month later? Plus, I thought Cyanonen stated that the cyanogen team was no longer supporting the g1 after cm6?
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
People are still able to Port over CM7 to the G1 whether Cyanogen and the team support it or not. Oh and btw, your statement made no sense.
Makes sense to me. If we built our own stuff now, it would be obsolete when we get newer official updates.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
Basically, they devs are keeping you happy by waiting. So much work goes into CM7 or MIUI that its not worth it to even try right now...no, they devs are not lazy. There just saving hours and HOURS of work that they don't have. It will be 1000 times easier to port any aosp build (CM7, MIUI) once we have gingerbread source. Right now its not worth the effort.
Lmao.... wtf?! Zander original just slapped you with a lightsaber lmaooooo!!!...Early mornin laugh! Gotta luv it!
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Original Android <3ers! said:
People are still able to Port over CM7 to the G1 whether Cyanogen and the team support it or not. Oh and btw, your statement made no sense.
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What doesn't make sense about that? Let's say you wanted gingerbread cookies. They take an hour to make, and you need to go buy some ingredients (lets ignore for the sake of the analogy that you could just buy gingerbread cookies while you're there), and you're not sure if the recipe is any good. So, all totaled, lets say ~2 hours, and you don't know until you're done if they'll even taste good. Now, let's say it's also the case that your wife was going to be home in 2.5-3 hours, and was bringing some leftover Gingerbread cookies someone brought into work home with her. That fact would sort of render your plan rather futile and pointless, would it not? Even if everything worked perfectly, that's a lot of effort to have cookies marginally quicker than you otherwise could have, and there's still opportunity cost of everything you COULD have been doing in that time.
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and there's still opportunity cost of everything you COULD have been doing in that time.
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like sitting on your hands waiting?
austin420 said:
like sitting on your hands waiting?
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I'm quite certain the devs don't toggle between developing for the Epic and laying in wait to develop for the epic.
In a real world sense, we're better off that they wait until it's most efficient. They can get other thing done (both Epic wise, and Honey-do list wise), catch up on all the tv they want, etc. The average dev is probably only going to devote a finite amount of their precious little time on this planet. I'd rather wait a month or two, and get a super phone, then have everyone spin their wheels for 2 months, and then quit or be burned out just in time to actually do something.
As always, if you don't like it, the SDK is open to everyone, and Java resources are everywhere.
I noticed quite a lot of sense 3.0 roms have been pumped out recently, the funny thing is none of them are significantly different than the other. majority of these half-baked roms do not even have the basic function of a smartphone (aka connectivity, messaging and such) and they are loaded with broken features. LOL man i'm starting to miss the Fascinate community, majority of the roms we had (kangbang, evil fascinating, etc) are rock solid with 100% functionality as far as roms goes. just saying....
Greetings ben,
I think that you are focusing on how well those roms ran, without remembering how well they started. I came from the Fascinate as well, I ended its call of duty with Evil fascination. None of the roms you mentioned, started without glitches and issues.
The incredible 2 has only had s-off for a couple months. Gingerbread has only been broken for a couple of weeks. The devs are just getting into the meat of the device. It's going to take a bit of time for the developers to turn out their creations, and it's going to take a hell of a lot more patience from the end users.
People seem to forget that these developers don't work for us. The sense of entitlement in these forums is off the chart. Unless you donated to your dev of choice, you haven't had to pay a dime for their continued hard word. Don't let donations fool you into thinking that somehow, the developers owe you anything. Donations are are a sign of respect and appreciation, nothing more.
So until we see a rom developed by you, that comes first day with no glitches, errors or issues, is full of incredible (no pun intended) options and choices, I think that you should maybe show the people working to make your phone experience better, a lot more respect.
I'm not trying to flame you, but your post in a slap in the face to the people making something for you to use freely.
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Greetings ben,
I think that you are focusing on how well those roms ran, without remembering how well they started. I came from the Fascinate as well, I ended its call of duty with Evil fascination. None of the roms you mentioned, started without glitches and issues.
The incredible 2 has only had s-off for a couple months. Gingerbread has only been broken for a couple of weeks. The devs are just getting into the meat of the device. It's going to take a bit of time for the developers to turn out their creations, and it's going to take a hell of a lot more patience from the end users.
People seem to forget that these developers don't work for us. The sense of entitlement in these forums is off the chart. Unless you donated to your dev of choice, you haven't had to pay a dime for their continued hard word. Don't let donations fool you into thinking that somehow, the developers owe you anything. Donations are are a sign of respect and appreciation, nothing more.
So until we see a rom developed by you, that comes first day with no glitches, errors or issues, is full of incredible (no pun intended) options and choices, I think that you should maybe show the people working to make your phone experience better, a lot more respect.
I'm not trying to flame you, but your post in a slap in the face to the people making something for you to use freely.
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Amen to that.
Double Amen.
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I noticed quite a lot of sense 3.0 roms have been pumped out recently, the funny thing is none of them are significantly different than the other. majority of these half-baked roms do not even have the basic function of a smartphone (aka connectivity, messaging and such) and they are loaded with broken features. LOL man i'm starting to miss the Fascinate community, majority of the roms we had (kangbang, evil fascinating, etc) are rock solid with 100% functionality as far as roms goes. just saying....
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I think if your are unhappy with the.state of development or with particular roms it should just probably remain private....developers do this for.free and because.they enjoy doing it
Don't like the.sense roms? Use the 3 fully.functional aosp roms we do have or use rmks debloated stock rom
Also afaik virtous unity is a fully functional sense 3 experience
Can only have 1 ROM on ur phone at a time anyway
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I think if your are unhappy with the.state of development or with particular roms it should just probably remain private....developers do this for.free and because.they enjoy doing it
Don't like the.sense roms? Use the 3 fully.functional aosp roms we do have or use rmks debloated stock rom
Also afaik virtous unity is a fully functional sense 3 experience
Can only have 1 ROM on ur phone at a time anyway
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Not true...
http://androidflip.com/how-to-install-multiple-roms-android-dual-boot-android/
But you are correct in saying that he should just keep his negative comments to himself.
I've tried most of the roms that we have for the Dinc 2 so far, and really, for what little amount of time that the Devs have had to work there magic, I'm amazed at what has been accomplished.
I personally am a fan of Sense, so I have been using Virtuosity Unity for the past week now. I spent a weekend with CM7 and a day with Miui...
I would be happy to use any of these for a daily driver, and do with Unity. I keep Gingersense on my Sd card for a backup/go to rom... I can't say that I would consider any of the roms as bad...
I for one am very thankful for the Devs and what they do to make out phones better. You guys Rock!!
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I noticed quite a lot of sense 3.0 roms have been pumped out recently, the funny thing is none of them are significantly different than the other. majority of these half-baked roms do not even have the basic function of a smartphone (aka connectivity, messaging and such) and they are loaded with broken features. LOL man i'm starting to miss the Fascinate community, majority of the roms we had (kangbang, evil fascinating, etc) are rock solid with 100% functionality as far as roms goes. just saying....
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If you are running into issues, then I would suggest asking for assistance. I'm on a sense 3.0 ROM FULLY functional. You may be missing something.
I dont know how long you had your fascinate, but it took a VERY long time for a fully functional aosp ROM became available to us, not for lack of trying from some amazing devs. Now consider we barely got s-off on gb stock, yet I immediately could load various sense or aosp roms.
Just my opinion.
Virtuous is fully functional. I know nothing wrong with the ROM. Thats kinda why it hasnt been updated in weeks, because it doesnt need it. And like Nitsuj said they do it for free. Do a little more research and reading before you flame the awesome devs we have here.
(We dont want anything happening here like it did with JT. A few of the Fascinate users know what Im talking about on that one.)
I think the issue is more of devs pumping out more than one ROM and not sticking to one build per device.
I understand that this stuff takes time, but I'd really like to see the time (and our donations) go to one ROM, not a bunch of different ports or hacks that have lingering bugs that don't get fixed.
I agree with the OP 100%, maybe a different tone could have been used to express the frustration though.
None the less, I'd love to get together with a dev and talk about what us, the community would like to see. I don't like seeing dirty ports of something to come with features that are either missing or can't be fixed.
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You guys don't see the point. You are so infactuated with his work because it works right for YOU! You seem to forget about all of the other people out there that are having silly problems that could probably be easily fixable but yet instead of devoting his time to fixing those probs he comes out with a new ROM that has the same problems!! Hahaha. I am not even trying to troll but come on... Ahahaha...
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That is easily fixed. Don't use his roms if you aren't happy with it. See? Fixed. Now do as I said earlier and shut your ****ing mouth.
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That is easily fixed. Don't use his roms if you aren't happy with it. See? Fixed. Now do as I said earlier and shut your ****ing mouth.
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Acting like a douche also doesn't help.
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TheMavic said:
You guys don't see the point. You are so infactuated with his work because it works right for YOU! You seem to forget about all of the other people out there that are having silly problems that could probably be easily fixable but yet instead of devoting his time to fixing those probs he comes out with a new ROM that has the same problems!! Hahaha. I am not even trying to troll but come on... Ahahaha...
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what problems are YOU having that you want fixed?
Have you thought that the majority of US know how to properly utilize the roms given to us, thus we have no problems. Maybe you shouldn't look the gift horse in the mouth, and learn where you may be doing something wrong.
Just saying.
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That is easily fixed. Don't use his roms if you aren't happy with it. See? Fixed. Now do as I said earlier and shut your ****ing mouth.
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Lol I love this kid.
And seriously just because it has little problems that some people are getting doesnt mean its a bad ROM, or it isnt functional, or has "major problems" like you said. **** stock RUU's have more problems and not to mention bigger ones than anything here in the development section. Especially Newts stuff. Stock GB deletes main system apps. Pretty big problem. And thats from HTC. People that are paid a lot of money to make these. Again these people are doing it for free. And they do one hell of a job. A rom is never going to be perfect there will always be little bugs that cant really be fixed because NOT EVERY PHONE IS THE SAME. One may have a problem that another may not. So if one doesnt work for you use another. He has many options for ROMs from 2.1, to 2.1/3.0, and full 3.0. Something for everyone that are updated regularly. If your going to talk crap about id say our top dev right now then get off this forum. Nobody here wants that kind of flaming.
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You guys have made my night. Thank you. This is too much fun.
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You should get your X2 back and hit there forums up. Maybe you will appreciate innovation and hard work over there with your 4 Roms and forever stock kernal. Dont come back here.
Oh and also you say were so infatuated with Newts work or whatever. I dont even run his ROMs. Im either on virtuous or MIUI. I test his ROMs for him. And I still know how often he updates them and just how stable they are. Your a fool.
To me this is like being welcomed into a strangers house to use the bathroom, then telling them that it was an awful experience because their toilet paper was not soft enough. Are you entitled to feel that way? Of course. I would just think it is common courtesy to keep those thoughts to yourself.
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APeaceofStrange said:
To me this is like being welcomed into a strangers house to use the bathroom, then telling them that it was an awful experience because their toilet paper was not soft enough. Are you entitled to feel that way? Of course. I would just think it is common courtesy to keep those thoughts to yourself.
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LOL I love that analogy. But i agree with you.
@Mavic. I understand your frustration. I came from the x10 community. We had the same issues. Newt reminds me of a dev named Trip. He would start a rom, get it near perfect then start another. Ever time though his end results were awesome. Another issue coming from Newts side is he makes roms for other devices. None the less he is an awesome dev who is highly respected. Give the devs some time. GB has only been cracked since around the 15th of this month.
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What does "infactuated" mean anyway? Is that a new word for fact-loving? Is is derogatory?
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Feed the troll! I'm hungry!!
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Hey Nicholas Sack, cool it. Stick to plenty of fish.
"Funny thing about that is, is that people are becoming more and more vulnerable to today's cultures of "how to act" and "what to believe". I think the our generation and the ones prior are the last that know how to be independant. With that being said, I could honestly give a **** less about how people view me. If I agree, I agree. If I disagree, then I'll tell you to gtfo.
Life's a *****, then you die."
Bringing daily trolls since 1999.
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Most progress updates happen in IRC chat. irc.freenode.net #lg-optimus-g
Each & Every Day were are Growing!
spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Heya, believe it or not we are both coming from the same place. I loved my EVO 3D and hacked it to the max. However, has the months went by the phone's specs were no longer "flagship" quality. As a result, I went with LG OG after much and I mean much research. To your answer it is not empty but it just in hibernation until Jelly Bean is released, which is going to happen at any time very soon for Korean already has it (End of Jan I hope). So the devs are holding back releases for roms until JB but CM and ASOP are all in development as we speak.
Great Link for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064215
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080610
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009531
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083320
P.S - It is SOOO much easier to root and unlock this phone compared to our EVO 3D. Even a one click tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039421
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^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
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Space, I don't have a wide berth of knowledge to give you, as this is only my 2nd Android smartphone. That said, the development here is severely lacking. There were a lot of hotshots promising things they couldn't deliver early on (like this phone is exactly the same as the Nexus 4, lol). They say all the action happens in IRC but log in there. Try it. Back yet? Didn't learn **** did you? No one talks about development there. It's like a business meeting about more meetings. They talk about what they need to be developing.
In the end, I'm not helping, so I can't really complain, but it's slightly frustrating to have a beast of a phone that no one is improving. Least of all LG. When I've attempted to get information I've been ignored or given the "we don't really know" SLASH "stfu kid" response. If you find good development news I'd love to see it.
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Many of us work, I work full time and have kids. Plus I have several other projects. If you honestly think nothing is getting done, maybe you should check github. Look at the amount of work being done towards cm10.1 for the lgog.
Not all development is ROMs and themes. Most of it happens before you see those ROMs and mods. Sure I could copy paste a rom together on my phone and call it something. Then everyone would think it was so cool, but the fact is it wouldn't be much different then what we already have. Will I build a stock based rom? Yes. Kernels? Yes. Aosp ROMs, yes. Some fancy aroma kitchen sink mod. Yup. Will I be doing this all within a week of getting the device and doing my research on it? Nope. There are like 20 sensors on this phone. Not to mention a ton of testing on kernels, what's bloat, what's a proprietary driver/lib vs source built. You need to remember that all of the development is done in peoples spare time. The phone is fast so no rush making it
Faster. The software is decent and has some decent feature without a lot of annoying issues so no rush there. Battery could be improved but thats mostly usage based. Nothing is crippled on this phone so there isn't exactly a huge rush to fix something on it. That is a good thing. We can pace ourselves and get more creative instead of fixing crap that should work already.
The biggest issue is not being jb+. That is being worked on daily by many people. I plan on helping as well but I agree with most of the devs on waiting for the korean source drop.
Give this phone time and it'll be crawling with flashy things.
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To add on to what Jokersax said, there is alot of development going on, but not as roms. CM10.1 technically works, but there is a bug that wont allow your to see anything on it. Would you like somebody to post it for you to test? We have to get a device tree going, and see what mods from other phones work here, and what we need to chance to get the different roms we build up and going. I am fairly new on the dev scene, but I am working on a rom ATM, just about to get out of the testing phase for my first public build (in the dev section). b-reezy is also working on porting MIUI, removing LG software to make it almost completely AOSP, and getting a few themes on our device, and helping me learn more as I go. We have alot of devs, but between real life events, and the time to make everything work it takes time. How long does a take big companies to get updates out that have dedicated developers? For LG it has been over a year to update one generation of android. Just be happy we can update it before that. Also if you sit enough on IRC you can find stuff (I found a flashable korean rom for our phone that boots, is english, but doesnt have 3g/4g/wifi working and such, so it is not posted here yet), but alot of it is people working in their free time, and all my talk about my work is either in my what do you want in my roms thread under Q&A, where there is already 3 test builds of my rom, and some of us are talking individually, like joker right above me, and b-reezy both talk to me daily on Gtalk the last several days to about 2 weeks for each one of them. And I cant remotely do anything as good as they can. Just wait a month or two then you will be spammed with roms and kernels to use. Try hitting up the Nook Tablet thread and see how development is going on there- I have had it over a year and there isnt even 2 dozen roms for it. It is all a matter on how locked the device is, and the drivers and such for the phone. Also we may be able to port stuff from the Nexus 4 BUT THIS IS NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME THING! We have a locked boatloader, the nexus doesnt (really big difference for dev work), plus GSM vs. CDMA radios is alot harder to dev for it seems like in the beginning. It is annoying how people complain about dev work not being fast enough yet they dont even remotely understand how any of it works. FYI we will probably have Jellybean on our device before LG releases it. 4.2 is the primary concern for the bigger devs right now. IF ANYBODY CANT FIND OUT THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT ON IRC JUST ASK, OR EMAIL OR GTALK ME AT [email protected] FOR MINE AND OTHER DEVS LATEST WORK. LET THEM WORK ON IT IN THEIR FREE TIME FOR FREE, AND I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WHILE I AM AT SCHOOL OR WAITING FOR PRACTICE TO START. If you payed these devs then you complain, other than that STFU. There is alot of stuff that goes on that we cant account for ahead of time.
Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
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Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
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Ex f'n xactly. I just appreciate anything I can get. Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. Oh God I hope I said that right!!!
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It's picking up really well. I truly love the beginning of development life for great phones. I also had the evo 3d and enjoyed it grow from cleanrom to jellybean 4.1.
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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pretty things are soon to come. Just need to gets bugs and such out. My work somewhat, but mostly others devs I have been talking to.
kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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Agreed. Pressure should be put on LG to update and release source. This is what we need to get more things rolling.
That being said, even though this software is only ICS, this is my first Android that I don't mind stock. I've run all the versions of ZV9 so far and stock deodex with some tweaks runs wonderfully. I'm coming from Touch wiz and Sense systems where they skin and change everything. I'll always be a Vanilla head, but I'm just as stoked to see what LG does with jellybean. This stock software isn't that far from AOSP really.
Also I don't see what the hoopla is about trying to port Nexus 4. This phone has way more potential than that.
kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
I completely agree. However, is this all that surprising? This is my first LG but it's my understanding they're notoriously bad with updates.
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nickespi said:
^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
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If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
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are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldent you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
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Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
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Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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genaro12543 said:
Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
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Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
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I agree with everything you said I just think its easier to be patient when things are kept in perspective. I too am disappointed lg didn't reach they're original promise of jb by December but I'm happy the phone works great and that lg didn't hurt the software TOO MUCH so there isn't problems.
And I'm glad you said you appreciate the devs work I just didn't wanna see the opposite and assumed you were being pushy because you said you agree with that guys post that sounded very demanding just cuz he couldn't see work done on irc.
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Im just venting at this point. But am I the only person disappointed with the ATT KK upgrade? Like most I waited a long time for the upgrade. I saw several intriguing ROMs but the bugs were enough to make me wait. I love this phone and I thought the upgrade would keep me married to it a little longer but that may not be the case. I havent noticed any thing better in KK. Most of the features I want are in the ROMs with the issues. It doesnt seem to play nice with some of my apps, the battery life is horrible, it lags and has even frozen up on me more in the last few days than the entire time before.
Hats off to all the people here. I have the utmost respect for the developers and the community as a whole. Im just venting and really feeling underwhelmed by the update.
There seems to be a lot of bugs with this update. Luckily i have none , in fact battery life is better in my case. It last me around 10 hrs but i watch like 4 hrs of video plus the games my son plays on it. It also hasnt froze on me once. Sorry to hear you having problems bro hopefully with this update development for this phone will pick up.
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Im just venting at this point. But am I the only person disappointed with the ATT KK upgrade? Like most I waited a long time for the upgrade. I saw several intriguing ROMs but the bugs were enough to make me wait. I love this phone and I thought the upgrade would keep me married to it a little longer but that may not be the case. I havent noticed any thing better in KK. Most of the features I want are in the ROMs with the issues. It doesnt seem to play nice with some of my apps, the battery life is horrible, it lags and has even frozen up on me more in the last few days than the entire time before.
Hats off to all the people here. I have the utmost respect for the developers and the community as a whole. Im just venting and really feeling underwhelmed by the update.
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How did you install the update? Was it OTA or through a TOT file or restore method by esimon. I had horrible battery life but someone here told me to install it through the TOT method and I took my medicine and installed through the TOT method and the phone has played incredibly nice. I am losing less than 1% battery life on standby mode.
I see no need for this thread .....if you aren't happy with it then you should post in the bug thread.......we already have like 5 threads lol...
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hardwirk1 said:
Im just venting at this point. But am I the only person disappointed with the ATT KK upgrade? Like most I waited a long time for the upgrade. I saw several intriguing ROMs but the bugs were enough to make me wait. I love this phone and I thought the upgrade would keep me married to it a little longer but that may not be the case. I havent noticed any thing better in KK. Most of the features I want are in the ROMs with the issues. It doesnt seem to play nice with some of my apps, the battery life is horrible, it lags and has even frozen up on me more in the last few days than the entire time before.
Hats off to all the people here. I have the utmost respect for the developers and the community as a whole. Im just venting and really feeling underwhelmed by the update.
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Try xposed
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shayneflashindaily said:
I see no need for this thread .....if you aren't happy with it then you should post in the bug thread.......we already have like 5 threads lol...
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It wasnt about the bugs. My first sentence said I was venting. It was more about my disappointment or feeling let down with the upgrade.
Since it was my opinion I opted not to place it in a section that focused on more technical issues. It was more or less a rhetorical question, because I know the probability of me being the only disappointed person are slim.
Sorry for thinking the forum was to discuss things. I also appreciate you telling me that this thread was not needed.
So based on your opinion it can be closed.
dpalmer76 said:
Try xposed
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Someone actually did a wonderful job in creating a flashable zip so I went that route. I was thinking I may have to do it the harder way but I will live with the bugs for now. Hopefully someone can make a fully functional ROM with other features based on the official upgrade from AT&T. If I had the know how I would do it.
I love it. Like the new look of apps and my home screen, battery life got better, tap to pay, and lock screen music controls. Only thing I can think of is they could've added more camera features and made it better.
hardwirk1 said:
It wasnt about the bugs. My first sentence said I was venting. It was more about my disappointment or feeling let down with the upgrade.
Since it was my opinion I opted not to place it in a section that focused on more technical issues. It was more or less a rhetorical question, because I know the probability of me being the only disappointed person are slim.
Sorry for thinking the forum was to discuss things. I also appreciate you telling me that this thread was not needed.
So based on your opinion it can be closed.
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Yeah no problem ....thanks for opening another uneeded thread about kitkat and your own personal opinion.:thumbup:
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shayneflashindaily said:
Yeah no problem ....thanks for opening another uneeded thread about kitkat and your own personal opinion.:thumbup:
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The TOT or kdz route with complete new wipe is highly recommended. There are so many system changes to KitKAt that a ckean flash is best.
My experience....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764076
hardwirk1 said:
Im just venting at this point. But am I the only person disappointed with the ATT KK upgrade? Like most I waited a long time for the upgrade. I saw several intriguing ROMs but the bugs were enough to make me wait. I love this phone and I thought the upgrade would keep me married to it a little longer but that may not be the case. I havent noticed any thing better in KK. Most of the features I want are in the ROMs with the issues. It doesnt seem to play nice with some of my apps, the battery life is horrible, it lags and has even frozen up on me more in the last few days than the entire time before.
Hats off to all the people here. I have the utmost respect for the developers and the community as a whole. Im just venting and really feeling underwhelmed by the update.
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If your having issues you might want to do a clean install with tot sounds like something didnt flash right for you. I have had unbelievable battery life every app i have works, and has not frozen once.
Back up everything with Titanium. Then go flash the TOT. Then root it. It works. The cwm flash might be easy, but the TOT method puts everything where it needs to be. And clears everything that shouldn't be there. No QQ til u TOT! Lol
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hardwirk1 said:
Im just venting at this point. But am I the only person disappointed with the ATT KK upgrade? Like most I waited a long time for the upgrade. I saw several intriguing ROMs but the bugs were enough to make me wait. I love this phone and I thought the upgrade would keep me married to it a little longer but that may not be the case. I havent noticed any thing better in KK. Most of the features I want are in the ROMs with the issues. It doesnt seem to play nice with some of my apps, the battery life is horrible, it lags and has even frozen up on me more in the last few days than the entire time before.
Hats off to all the people here. I have the utmost respect for the developers and the community as a whole. Im just venting and really feeling underwhelmed by the update.
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This is just a thought, find a kitkat rom you are mostly happy with, CyanogenMod or one of the others. Personally, I find CM to work as well as stock and in many ways like it much more.
Also, 4.4.3, or whatever comes after 4.4.2, is just around the corner. There is more of a chance that 4.4.3 reaches us through Aosp ROMs than a update to LG/AT&Ts stock ROM. Who knows, maybe they will push 4.4.3 and what comes after too...
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