I know it ibeta before you all start on me, however 15 minutes of web browsing = 10% loss of battery. At that rate my phone will be dead an hour and half of web browsing
When the phone is just on stand by battery life is fine
Hope they fix this when the "official" release comes out
Wow where did you learn maths?
BETA Roms effect the mind.
Jamiec902 said:
I know it ibeta before you all start on me, however 15 minutes of web browsing = 10% loss of battery. At that rate my phone will be dead an hour and half of web browsing
When the phone is just on stand by battery life is fine
Hope they fix this when the "official" release comes out
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i think it will be 150 minutes and that's not 1,5h
btw
my phone: few calls, some games - 1,5 day and still 27% of battery
icemac said:
i think it will be 150 minutes and that's not 1,5h
btw
my phone: few calls, some games - 1,5 day and still 27% of battery
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My phone: lots of calls, few minutes wireless =1 day and still 70%. No web browsing.
Agreed 150 mind isn't 1.5hrs. But still bad!
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Agreed 150 mind isn't 1.5hrs. But still bad!
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the screen needs lots of power, processor needs to,
everything needs the power
look it is same like brand new commputer (whit very good graphic card, processor, memory, MB) - you need good and strong power supply without it is crap ...
if you need good long working phone buy something else like :hmm: i dont know what maybe NOKIA with small BW display
no offence
I noticed on the JPC the battery drains soooo fast!
did a full charge while the phone was off today and also deleted the battery stats.. lets see if it improves
icemac said:
the screen needs lots of power, processor needs to,
everything needs the power
look it is same like brand new commputer (whit very good graphic card, processor, memory, MB) - you need good and strong power supply without it is crap ...
if you need good long working phone buy something else like :hmm: i dont know what maybe NOKIA with small BW display
no offence
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I love my SGS and will not being going back to Nokia, also love andriod - just hoping the official release will let me have use for one full day - not too much to ask I dont think
I get 2 days of moderate to high usage with JPC. I think it uses less battery because the GSM signal is better, but the screen uses more power, is always over 90% in battery stats.
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For me it all comes down "display on" time.
if using 3G/edge i get 4,5h
if wifi then 5,5h (no difference if im using it during 1 day or 4 days)
JPC is same as JP3 or JMx
Screen brightness
Just thought I'd say, incase you didn't know, the web browser has it's own brightness setting. That could be killing the battery.
I, for one, already set the brightness to the first level for all aplications that have brightness setting, and still the display sucks the battey like crazy, at list with JPC. With other FW it drops even to 40%.
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speaking of GSM, w/c one is 2G mode for the Galaxy S.. GSM or WCDMA ?
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speaking of gsm, w/c one is 2g mode for the galaxy s.. Gsm or wcdma ?
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Battery drain was ridiculous with me. The first night I went to sleep I remember my phone was nearly fully charged, when I woke up at morning it had used around 50%... that is, 50% of the battery for around 6 or 7h just sitting in IDLE! When I actually USED the phone it could barely handle 10h with a full charge, and that's with very moderate usage. I had to leave the phone charing all the time to survive a day with it (charging in my car, charging every time I stopped near an AC outlet, etc). And yeah, the funny thing was noticing how exaggeratedly high the screen battery drain was, even though I wasn't using the screen all that much...
Some other symptoms of the high battery drain:
-Charging the phone took FOREVER with the phone being used, took a LOT of time with the phone sitting Idle, but if I turned the off the battery would actually charge very fast... that proved that the phone was draining so much energy even the AC charger (or USB outlet) couldn't effectively charge the battery while supplying power to the phone...
-The phone got HOT very easily...
How did I solve it?
Well, yesterday I decided I would reflash my device. I did a full reflash (as I always do) including a re-repartion. Now the funny thing that I noticed was that my phone actually wouldn't flash! It would always crash at the Galaxy S welcome screen... I have never flashed it using my notebook (since I'm traveling), but I used the exact same procedure I always use with my desktop back home, for some reason it wasn't working. Maybe some corrupt file? I re-downloaded ALL files (that is, Odin with the 803 pit file, and the JPC files)...
For my surprise, this time my phone hanged in a green screen, and it was really scary. I even thought perhaps the Nokia USB cable I was using was causing some kind of incompatibility problem, but that would make no sense at all... so I entered the recovery menu in my phone and reset EVERYTHING, and tried flashing it one LAST time (this time closing ALL background apps in my notebook, to avoid any problems)... and there it went, a perfect flash, as easy as they go with my desktop PC back home.
1st thing I did was a hardreset, and then I reflashed it again with Doc's RomMod V2 (was using V1 the day before), and new hardreset in the sequence. Then I changed as little as possible in the phone configurations, I just turned everything off (GPS, wifi, and even the data connection through the power button shortcut), and went to sleep...
For my surprise, the next day I checked the phone's battery use, it had drained only ~4-5% for more then 10hours, this means it would, at least in theory, be able to last for days and days in this setup...
So I installed my apps again (not that I have many), did lagfix, turned widgets and network connection back on... and it has been working like a breeze, although battery drain can still be considered high, it's nowhere close to being as bad as it was before I flashed it, now at least the battery will last a full day with a charge @ my standards of usage, that's good enough for me...
One thing I did change, I remember my screen setup was always at 10/30min for shutdown, I left it like that because I'm always using the phone in situations where the screen will constantly shut down at my face, and that annoyed me... well, this time I actally left the stock 30 seconds for screen shutdown, not sure if it has anything related, but one of the things I noticed before was that my IDLE battery-drain was as high as you'd expect from a phone that had it's screen on all the time... maybe some bug makes the phone drain screen power even with the screen turn off, let's say if you have the 30min turn-off config, your screen will continue to drain power for 30min (and there you have the reason for so much screen draw in the stats), even though the screen is turned off... despite my hardware knowledge telling me that a black screen should NOT be draining power from your phone battery, you never know how far a software bug can fck things up hardware-wise, so I wouldn't be surprise if that actually DID happen...
I could even try setting my screen back to 30min-turnoff just to check if the battery drain will go back to insane levels.. but the fact is that I'm scared of messing it up again, it's working fine the way it is, why mess it up? I figured out some things that get messed up with this phone appear to only get fixed with a new firmware flash, and I really don't feel like having to flash my phone every two days...
Either way, I hope others here can fix their battery drain... it's just my tip: try reflashing, leave everything as stock as you can (only thing I did was Doc's RomMod v2, and later Ryan ZA's lagfix, none of them seem to be related to JPC's battery drain), and see if it helps...
wth I can only get 3.5 hours max
Sent from my phone so excuse the spelling errors
After a week of using JPC I don't see any real difference in battery usage from the original stock rom and JP3, I charge the phone every second night ( battery is usually around 25% at this point).
My usage isn't that high, I have a couple of notifications running and a weather widget that updates hourly, its my alarm clock, my mp3 player to and from work (about 90 minutes a day), I make and receive 4-5 calls a day and send and receive a dozen texts a day, I check face book 3-4 times a day and on a daily basis someone gets a 10-15 minute demonstration of the beauty of this phone(note: don't let a taxi driver play with your phone whilst in heavy traffic, even if it gets a confession that it makes his iphone look like a piece of crap).
As far as screen time outs are concerned, I set mine at 1 minute but always turn the display off manually when I finish doing something with it including after I have started the music player (btw I use bluetooth headset to listen to music but not for phone conversations).
The highest display percentage I have seen is about 85% but the is usually tied in with using gps or browsing, on a day I don't use gps or browsing display is much lower, on a day that the display is pretty much off it drops to about 10-15% usage.
This phone is the first, of the several pda/smart phones I have owned over the years, that I haven't had to charge every day.
Id battery usage is not a problem for me on JPC, 8hrs idle ( sleeping ) and I still got 100% started to use the phone and it rapidly dropped.. now im playing a 2hr movie and see if i can get it to loop for 2-3 times before it shuts off.. if it reaches 6hrs then i would consider the battery usage the same.
Please turn off the GPS and a-GPS....
You will get a much better battery life.....
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Ok, my battery is weird it doesnt last long. it dropped from abut 95% to 70% over night, with checking email every 30 minutes with k9 and the mail app every 4 hours. My phone doesn't last very long either, I haven't tested it fully. I always keep charging it, when im in the house.
I bought it from T-Mobile and i could swap it. Should I?
Jason
Might be worth it, I have Friendstream updating default setting, Googlemail (although it's push) on at all times, browsing a fair bit (on mobile net and WiFi) and a few calls and it last 2 days-ish...I'm using a generic Desire on latest FW
Mine's the same. I didn't think it would be worse than my old BB Bold for battery life, but it really is very poor. I don't think you have a fault, it's just the way it is.
I wondered about closing background apps but I've read that having them open doesn't impact battery life. I do have a few background things going on though that will affect it, so maybe I need to consider if I really need them or not (frequent email syncing, contacts/calendar syncs, etc.).
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Might be worth it, I have Friendstream updating default setting, Googlemail (although it's push) on at all times, browsing a fair bit (on mobile net and WiFi) and a few calls and it last 2 days-ish...I'm using a generic Desire on latest FW
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Have you put the phone down for long periods in-between uses, or have you spent a fair time writing emails or just playing with it? I've spent a fair time on mine but not constantly, and no more than I used to with my BB Bold. I used to writing emails constantly on my Bold and the battery would last a good day, but until I'm used to this keyboard I won't be doing that on my Desire.
So It won't make a difference if i swap it? I also didn't do the standard charge at the start. Couldn't resist playing with it. So It was on charge while playing with it. Could that make a difference?
I'm in work a lot and I'm not constantly on it - just check for emails/SMSs every hour or so so prob spends a lot of the time in standby. I'm on it more on the weekends but it still lasts well into day 2
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So It won't make a difference if i swap it? I also didn't do the standard charge at the start. Couldn't resist playing with it. So It was on charge while playing with it. Could that make a difference?
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If it works otherwise then I doubt there is a fault that would cause the battery to run down but nothing else not to work.
Not charging the battery at the start is one of those things that some say makes a difference, other say it doesn't. With Lithium-Ion batteries I always thought they didn't need that initial charge, but I can't say for sure. Anyway, what might help is if you did a full charge then a complete discharge (use it until the phone turns off) then a full charge again. With older batteries at least, that tended to help them last longer.
There a a few threads on this alread here and on the Android Forums.
There is a problem where the phone when charged left on, only goes upto 98%. However the phone will soon drop to 90% and lower quickly, indicating the phone has not charged properly.
If you unplug and reconnect, it will go back to 100% but almost as quick as tying your laces, it will go from 100 to 98% and continue to drop.
It could be faulty batteries.
I was hoping the FW update would fix but it hasn't as I found out last nite.
Or should I just buy another battery?
I've been having similar issues,
I get much much better battery life without mobile networks on, and alot of application crashes/phone reboots to get it work like I expected.
Took some data:
1hr of phone in sleep mode w/ mobile internet on = 4% battery
1hr of phone in sleep mode w/out mob internet on = >1% battery
So I can get a good two days if I don't have any internet with moderate use, but about 16 hours with internet always on and moderate usage. If I really 'rag' it and use alot, I can get about 50% done in a few hours (not constant use either, just alot of google goggles mainly!)
This coupled with the crashes and reboot made me get an exchange, I'm just hoping it's better, and really hoping its not worse..
Wish me luck, I wish you all the same.
After couple weeks my original battery seems to last longer - I do with 1,5 days now (with some browsing, 3G, occasional GPS and bluetooth, weather & gmail sync, dl apps from market etc). So it might be true that after the initial couple weeks of usage and charging the battery performs much better.
Intrestingly T-Mobile promised to send me a new battery over a week ago. As it never arrived I called them and was told they dont have any... but they would credit my account with £20 to buy one. Today... I received an extra battery from T-Mobile!!! No idea what is going on - and if I still have that £20 credit in my account
I will give that new battery a loooong first charge, see if it helps.
what about the 3000 mAH batteries?
Are they any good and would it work for the Desire?
can be found at the htcdepot.com
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After couple weeks my original battery seems to last longer - I do with 1,5 days now (with some browsing, 3G, occasional GPS and bluetooth, weather & gmail sync, dl apps from market etc). So it might be true that after the initial couple weeks of usage and charging the battery performs much better.
Intrestingly T-Mobile promised to send me a new battery over a week ago. As it never arrived I called them and was told they dont have any... but they would credit my account with £20 to buy one. Today... I received an extra battery from T-Mobile!!! No idea what is going on - and if I still have that £20 credit in my account
I will give that new battery a loooong first charge, see if it helps.
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Won't help, once it's at 100% the charging will stop. There is no such thing as 'long charging' li-ion batteries or 'trickle charge' a li-ion battery.
You can try to do a full first charge (until the green light burns) and then fully discharge (until the phone goes off). Then fully charge again. This will calibrate the battery chip and make sure you see the correct percentage.
If battery life is still no good then it's because you use the phone too much. Read: constant weather updates, friendstream updates, push mail and other stuff that constantly use the mobile connection. Also turn off gps unless you need it.
Turning off those services and turning off the 'always on mobile connection' can double your battery life (read: standby time).
It's not something magical, it's completely normal. If you want the phone to do a lot, it will obviously use a lot of battery.
Just for the sake of it, put the phone in airplane mode. You will be amazed how long it will last.
It's the main problem with modern mobile devices. Battery usage and capacity are no longer in good balance. What we need is more compact batteries that have more capacity.
At the moment it's clearly a comprimise between battery size (thus capacity) and battery usage. It's up to you to see how much you want to comprimise.
And so far, with every HTC phone, after a few (radio rom) updates battery life increased.
And... what everyone seems to forget, when you first get your phone you will fiddle with it.. a lot.. And once you have it for like a week or two, you start using it differently. Usually ending up with better battery life!
Try to run it down to around 5-10% after each full charge, but don't let it go completely dead if you can avoid it. Do this a few times and you will notice an improvement. Plus of course, when the novelty wears off and you use it less the same will happen.
Back when I got my Touch HD it would only just last a day, but by the time I was on the upgrade path I could get 3 or 4 days out of it!
Just to confirm, I was a bit worried at first about the battery life of the Desire. The first 2 days I could only manage to get 7 / 8 hours out of it. When I turned data sync off at night, it still lost 40% of the battery .. doing absolutely nothing.
However as mentioned before, I'm now on day 6 and now I can easily get 36 hours of browsing / texting / calling 2 hours + / even playing occasionally games. At night, without data sync, it drops just 4%.
So if you're worried about your newly acquired Desire's battery sucks, It really needs some calibration. After a few days it'll work as you wish.
T-mob battery
Hmmm.. Not sure what T-mob is up to. They promised me a £20 credit to by a battery (they didnt have any in stock) then I received the battery in post. I called 150 and they confirmed the £20 credit is still there for the next bill...
I couldnt be happier with T-Mob! Besides this I got 100txt/100min, plus 60 min included to Eurasia, Internet and 40 free txt to Europe = all for £10 a month!
Now I just need a case for it... waiting for the PdAir one to come, had one for my Compact IV and loved it. Its the flip one that opens upwards not down, so wont mess with the hardware buttons.
sajcobitsj said:
Just to confirm, I was a bit worried at first about the battery life of the Desire. The first 2 days I could only manage to get 7 / 8 hours out of it. When I turned data sync off at night, it still lost 40% of the battery .. doing absolutely nothing.
However as mentioned before, I'm now on day 6 and now I can easily get 36 hours of browsing / texting / calling 2 hours + / even playing occasionally games. At night, without data sync, it drops just 4%.
So if you're worried about your newly acquired Desire's battery sucks, It really needs some calibration. After a few days it'll work as you wish.
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I really hope that's the case...
I got my Desire on Tuesday, first use was on Wednesday.
Yesterday (Friday) I put the Desire into Airplane Mode - I deactived everything. Turned off WLAN, mobile Internet, Syncing off manually before I went into that mode, just to be sure. When I went to bed, I had 72% battery left. When I woke up...50%...seriously, what the f...?!?!
8 hours of doing absolutely nothing uses 22% battery?! It's really annoying at the moment, absoluetly unusuable unless I'm home and know I can plug it in any second. When I'm out, I don't even dare to use mobile Internet, because even without it it only lasts till I get home (no WLAN, no mobile internet, just using it as a "telephone"...).
Eggcake said:
I really hope that's the case...
I got my Desire on Tuesday, first use was on Wednesday.
Yesterday (Friday) I put the Desire into Airplane Mode - I deactived everything. Turned off WLAN, mobile Internet, Syncing off manually before I went into that mode, just to be sure. When I went to bed, I had 72% battery left. When I woke up...50%...seriously, what the f...?!?!
8 hours of doing absolutely nothing uses 22% battery?! It's really annoying at the moment, absoluetly unusuable unless I'm home and know I can plug it in any second. When I'm out, I don't even dare to use mobile Internet, because even without it it only lasts till I get home (no WLAN, no mobile internet, just using it as a "telephone"...).
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You expect the phone to stay turned on without using any power? This isn't a dumb phone, it is running powerful components and 8 hours doing "nothing" is relatively long time and the power usage of keeping those components powered at idle levels is going to add up no matter what. If you can't bear to turn the phone off if you can't control your usage, carry a charger or battery you should have got a dumb phone.
Bear in mind that the full capacity of the battery won't be reached until several charge/discharge cycles have been done, especially when you are using the battery for the first time on a new phone or on a phone with updated firmware. I noticed this while flashing custom ROMs on a previous handset. I'm sure we will also notice improved battery performance when firmware updates become available.
I really hope that's the case...
I got my Desire on Tuesday, first use was on Wednesday.
Yesterday (Friday) I put the Desire into Airplane Mode - I d
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You expect the phone to stay turned on without using any power? This isn't a dumb phone, it is running powerful components and 8 hours doing "nothing" is relatively long time and the power usage of keeping those components powered at idle levels is going to add up no matter what. If you can't bear to turn the phone off if you can't control your usage, carry a charger or battery you should have got a dumb phone.
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So you wanna tell me 20% battery loss in 8hrs airplane mode is normal? I hope not.
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I've read in a bunch of other threads that people are getting awesome battery life out of their Z or G2. Mine is okay-ish. I had a hero before which seemed a bit better. there are a couple of odd things I thought I'd check tho...
First, the keyboard backlight turns on and off at seemingly random intervals while open. Anyone else got this?
Also I've seen screenshots of the battery use screen showing how much power is used by each system. The screen always is at least 75% on mine, even when its been sat in a pouch most of the time with just a couple of messages or a phone call- this seems quite different to other peoples experience.
Is there any reliable way of benchmarking the battery to check? If not, does anyone fancy helping me test?
im actually suffering from the same problem,
i thaught it was because the first week i was using it lots thats why the battery wasnt lasting long, but on monday morning with a full charge ,
only with a few calls , texts and checking train times on TFL , by the time i got to sleep that night the battery was on 30%
I was shocked , checked the battery useage meter , everything was below 5% except the screen which was was on a shocking 80%
I Then formatted the phone , restored to default , removed everything ,
set the brightness to lowest useable which was just above the 'o' on 'ok' in the brightness screen let it charge to 100% for use on tuesday.
Tuesday - Morn before i left for work it was on 100% , the only thing i had setup on it was email, brightness on low - but useable .
Screen must have been on onliy for 20 mins throughout the day
Got home , battery was on 45%
battery useage - again display was taking over 70% of it when it was hardly on .
I am RMA'ing this one tommorow
I think its an issue internally with something shorting on the display, battery shoudlnt be draining that much if its not on
Out of interest was yours a UK Desire Z ?
Yep. This sounds exactly like my situation in every detail. I couldn't believe reports from other people saying their batteries were at 92% after 12 hours- even without using mine at all this wouldn't happen.
Mine is a UK desire z, from play.com. I think its over 14 days so RMA might be tricky, although I know I have lots of rights thanks to distance selling regulations. Hope I can exchange without too much fuss.
Ooh, just thought of something. When I set the brightness really low on mine (below 20% or so) the screen flickers slightly. It's most visible on a totally white page. Does yours do the same? Faulty backlight maybe?
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When I set the brightness really low on mine (below 20% or so) the screen flickers slightly. It's most visible on a totally white page. Does yours do the same? Faulty backlight maybe?
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Just tested mine, definitely no flicker.
Now my experience with the battery....
I play about half hour - an hour of games every day, plus about up to an hour wifi, using the xda app throughout the day using data, 10 - 15 txts and a few 1 - 2 min calls... Not too heavy usage.
I'm getting 30-36 hours, I'm happy....
BUT..... I have not plugged in through mains once yet. I read that charging through USB gives better performance... so far that is looking true.
I got the same kind of time out of my Hero using mains but that was with zero game time.
yes! pizza65 , i noticed the flickering too! , i thaught it was just my eye being twitchy ! Noticeable on internet browsing on low brightness! .
Mine was from handtec .. (amazon delayed too much) so changed last min,
it comes with a 2 year manufacturer waranty i think so even if you take it up with HTC direct they should be able to help if play dont.
I tried a diff radio and rom , but it made no difference.
Maybe the UK batch is still faulty , wasnt that the reason why it failed google testing and got delayed for release here?
Whats your hinge like ?
ddot what network are you on ?
same to you pizza65?
im on 02 , i dont think it is a network radio issue with switching of hspda/3g to 2g signals as it does say cell standby battery useage is around only 6% , but then again the phone could be false reporting
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Is there any reliable way of benchmarking the battery to check? If not, does anyone fancy helping me test?
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Not really if you want realistic real-world results with data connectivity etc. It varies too much since everything counts like signal strength.
You can always just turn off everything and burn the battery with a movie but first thing you should do is a few dozen full discharges before you do anything. I've noticed that HTC (and other manufacturers too) pre-use their batteries ie. charge and recharge them until they're optimal for consumers, hence the whine about bad batteries when people buy new phones (and in reviews as well).
I'm on Orange, I don't think its network because, as you confirmed, the "battery use" screen says that the screen is draining all the power. If nobody else gets a flicker on low brightness (it can take a few seconds to see it, but once you notice it...) then it looks like our screens are the culprit. Maybe.
I've deleted batterystats.bin and fully charged, so ill give that another chance before talking to play.
Ddot, what percentage of the drain is from the screen on your z? Also, if you press 'display' in that menu it will say how long the screen has been on, what does it say?
I have the same issue with battery performace. I've moved to Desire Z from my old Desire which had AMOLED display. On my old one, the display taked 5-8% of battery. On Desire Z I have minimum 50%, but ussually ~70%.
After reading that some people can use their DZs like "for two days of heavy use (gaming, browsing)" or "5% for 6 hours" I can't understand how?
Comparing to old Desire my DZ have poor battery performance. But the specs tells it must be much better.
I'll publish my battery usage stats after some days. Maybe it'll be useful.
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In additional.
I have stock Sense ROM with root and S-Off. No overclocking kernel. My SetCPU profile is set for 245 MHz when screen is off.
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Interesting read...desire users, amoled etc. cynogen mod, 2.2 android:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2012
Another snippet:
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/08/h...ry-and-possibly-double-your-battery-life.html
a variation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6796078&postcount=1
i'm in similar shoes like you guys. i'll try these.
I'm using SetCPU 245MHz idle, stock Z rom.
tbalden said:
Interesting read...desire users, amoled etc. cynogen mod, 2.2 android:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2012
Another snippet:
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/08/h...ry-and-possibly-double-your-battery-life.html
a variation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6796078&postcount=1
i'm in similar shoes like you guys. i'll try these.
I'm using SetCPU 245MHz idle, stock Z rom.
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing
And a really "geek" method here quoted from cyanogenmod issue:
Comment 27 by david.j.erickson, Aug 19, 2010
Now, I was still having abnormal drain on my battery. As suggested in the Wiki and also confirmed in another cyanogenmod post, clearing the battery stats can help. I followed this procedure:
Fully charge the battery, says Full and 100% under Settings - About phone - Status.
Reboot into recovery, wiped battery stats. Phone still plugged in at this point.
Reboot into rom, checked to make sure battery was still Full and 100%.
Unplugged phone.
Killed it, used Maps on Wifi and messing around. Killed it in about 3 hours or so.
Tried turning it on a couple times to make sure it was *dead* dead. It still tried to boot, but couldn't complete without shutting off.
Plugged phone in, booted it up. It may be better to not turn it on until it is fully charged, but this is just what I did.
Let it charge overnight, next morning took it off charger since it was full.
I have noticed pretty good battery life since doing this. This morning on my bus ride in I pretty much constantly played some Storm8 games and used Listen with Bluetooth, was only down to about 82 or 84%, can't remember. This is on par with previous CM release for me.
Not sure why this rom in particular had so much worse battery drain out of the gate, and not just for me. Fortunately it seems correctable. Maybe if a few of you could give this a try and see if it improves your battery performance we could conclusively say battery calibration is the solution.
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What about the flicker? Can anyone confirm that?
I have a UK (read: QWERTY) Desire Z, first batch.
I tried reprodocuing the flicker by lowering the brightness completely and looking at a blank white page in the internet browser. Couldn't see it. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough.
That said, I'm not getting the great battery life that most seem to be getting, and the stats always show the Display as being the number one drain. HOWEVER, it doesn't seem quite as bad as you guys are saying.
Right now, it looks like this:
Unplugged for 18 hours and 16 minutes, battery at 36%
Display accounts for 41% of the drain
It has been on for 50 minutes.
(stock ROM, running an IM client 24/7, synced to three email addresses... Typoclock seems to use 2% of the battery every time as well, which seems relatively high for such an innocuous little widget)
Yeah. I have some slight flickering too, slight when low light set.
Uk stock.
I dont think high display percent is an issue too much reading cyanogen issue comments.if you use nothing but low cpu burden apps, display should eat most.
Also if i have it off, power is eaten by cell standby.
Im still hoping for a settled battery log mentioned in forums.
My 2 cents:
If I "use" the phone, I have to plugin it every night.
If I do not "use" it (nobody calls that day, no browsing or GPS (Just work!)), I plugin it every two day (ex. mon - wed - fri).
The display is always 65-80 % of the "drain problem".
Today the stats are:
7.30 am: full chargerd 100%
7.30 pm: display drains: 70% in 1h : 21m - battery at 20%
I leave automatic background gmail sync on (only daylight, I use the "Flight mode" overnight)
No bluetooth, no wifi, no gps, brightness 35-40%
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I leave automatic background gmail sync on (only daylight, I use the "Flight mode" overnight)
No bluetooth, no wifi, no gps, brightness 35-40%
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No phone either.
I'm on a North American Desire Z and I see the display using 70%-80% of the battery when I have the display on for approximately two hours out of the day. I keep my display quite dim too, at 20% brightness.
I'm also running everything stock. No root, no custom ROMs, no anything.
Isnt display percentage actually the display driver cpu time eaten?its just a theoretical value isnt it, not watts gone? It seems obvious that its eating a lot as it refreshes all the time regardless of display light level.
My screen on is only 33% today, im sure its usually higher though. Maybe its due to me flashing stuff all day. Ill do a full charge tonight and report back Sunday.
...bought from e2save, a part of carphone warehouse.
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As I posted in another thread:
I am lucky to even get 12 hours with minimal use. No calls, just some texting and maybe browsing my bank website. Screen is always the killer for me, even on 20% brightness. If I go lower the screen actually flickers.
I bought the red HTC Chichitech batteries and they didn't help me at all.
Tried overclocking module, didn't change much.
The only app that ever shows any significant battery use (over 5%) is Maps, when I use maps.
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I am rooted, S-OFF, using the Sense Modaco ROM. Battery usage was no better with the Stock Bell Rom before rooting or S-OFF.
My main concern is the screen flickering at low brightness. it's as if it's unable to decide on a specific level of brightness and makes me question if it's actually saving any power.
I set my phone to Auto brightness and I am going to see if that is actually worse of if it's on par with 20%.
Ugh - just realized there is another thread pretty much all about this. I thought it was a different issue. Still, does anyone know if there is a better batch of phones or something? I have a FutureShop warranty so it'd be easy enough for me to replace if it will actually provide a solution
No-one has posted anything, to my knowledge, about a different batch of phones having better battery life. I would check out the other threads about battery life (including those on the G2 side too) and see if you can get yours to last better. But it could just be something faulty on your phone/battery.
Auto-brightness would make it even worse..because there is some type of bug or something that isn't making it function like it should. I was also getting terrible battery life until I followed some of these steps: http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/05/20-tips-to-improve-htc-evo-4g-battery-life.html
Biggest killers are any widgets that are constantly updating..or facebook/twitter apps that are constantly updating. As well..i recommend SetCPU to underclock your phone when your screen is turned off. This should also help with conserving battery life along with some of the steps provided in that link.
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No-one has posted anything, to my knowledge, about a different batch of phones having better battery life. I would check out the other threads about battery life (including those on the G2 side too) and see if you can get yours to last better. But it could just be something faulty on your phone/battery.
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I am considering waiting a month or so and then having mine replaced. Unless I managed to figure something else out. My HTC Legend had better battery life.
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Auto-brightness would make it even worse..because there is some type of bug or something that isn't making it function like it should. I was also getting terrible battery life until I followed some of these steps: http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/05/20-tips-to-improve-htc-evo-4g-battery-life.html
Biggest killers are any widgets that are constantly updating..or facebook/twitter apps that are constantly updating. As well..i recommend SetCPU to underclock your phone when your screen is turned off. This should also help with conserving battery life along with some of the steps provided in that link.
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The reason I want to try auto or higher brightness is to see if lowering it was actually saving me any battery life. I am curious if there's a driver or display issues that causes it to use the same amount regardless of the setting. So far I don't seem to be running out any faster @ auto than I was at 20%, but it hasn't been a long enough time to tell for sure.
Also I am unable to do the battery tip for the evo because once I turn off the phone and go to charge it again, it's instantly green. But I am going to try it anyway even though it's green.
Since writing the first post I used the OC module to get my phone to 1.2ghz. I have SetCPU set to run on boot with the onDemand setting. I have a profile that says to slow the CPU when the screen is off. From what I've read it doesn't make a ton of difference with this particular phone, but we'll see...
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Also I am unable to do the battery tip for the evo because once I turn off the phone and go to charge it again, it's instantly green. But I am going to try it anyway even though it's green.
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Yep, that's what I found too, when you try and charge it thinks it's already charged and goes green straight away again. But as you said, worth a try.
I just wanted to report back and say that I had my phone replaced. So far so good:
- No screen flicker issue at low brightness
- Battery has lasted nearly 20 hours with moderate-heavy use (played NFS Shift, setup basically everything on the phone after rooting, installed all my apps, backups, flashed some roms, 20+ texts, 3-4 short calls, showing people random apps.)
If it's not all in my head then this is definitely much better now!
Curious. It seems that everyone who reports the screen flickering problem has poor battery life.
Defective displays?
I feel my battery life is pretty bad as well. I've unplugged the phone this morning at 7 AM. Now it's 2 PM, and I'm at 37%. In between, the only things I've done are: send/receive a few emails and chat on gtalk. Brightness is at 40%, animations are turned off, wifi and gps location off. Using latest Cyanogenmod (6.1.1) and have no screen flicker issues
Edit: 17 minutes later, it's now at 27%
How long have you had the phone for?
Initially the first few days I got the phone, battery life was really bad, could drain in a few hours.
After a week or two of use, I now have reasonable battery life, the phone can last all day with light usage and still have lots of juice left. Actually I think if you make a few calls and a few txts, battery could last 2 days. If you play with it, one day for sure but you need to plug in over night.
(if you're talking to me) It's quite new, just picked it up on Friday actually. Also I've kept on researching, and it seems that poor coverage (like I have at work, from 7 til 3) tends to drain the battery even more, since the phone keeps switching between HSPA, 3G, etc.
I had my first one for about a month at least. This replacement was from Saturday.
Today I've had my phone unplugged since 8am, it's 5:30pm and I have 45% battery left, but the screen is the #2 user. Standby is #1 @ 40% of my battery usage, due to over 4 hours of time without a signal. The screen is only 24% and has been on for 48 minutes. Voice calls is #3 at 23% battery usage, with 23mins of calling.
My other phone would have died by now.
Also I spent an hour of streaming bluetooth audio to my car. Bluetooth doesn't even register on the battery usage. I've never seen it use more than 2% and it's always on. I am not sure why people say it uses a lot.
Just want to share my experience.
I too had poor battery life. Stock Bell ROM. Got to 3:00 pm and it used to die. Use this for work. Pushing data all day from Exchange server, bluetooth on all day because I'm in and out of the car, talk on average 30 minutes per day, texting, surfing, tethering, blah blah. Believe it or not, my old Omnia II would get me thru the day no problem.
I was also tempted to return it. But I decided to try a few things. Installed Set CPU and a task killer at the same time. Shut down as many tasks as possible on start up. Widgets and accounts, except Exchange-push, run and sync every hour. I get about 40% battery by dinner. I am happy now .
I'm quite happy with my Desire Z's battery life, It lasts for about 36 hours with moderate use. I have Juicedefender and Ultimatejuice installed, data or wifi are opened only when an app needs data connection, this increased my battery life by 10 hours or sth like that. Nice app.
I had terrible battery life until I went overseas. It is a stock Bell ROM, but I arrived in Spain Monday and am using a Spanish SIM card.
My battery life has increased from 14 hours with Bell's 3G signal to my current 27 hours and 35% remaining battery using GSM and WiFi always on. Funny thing is that no matter where I am it says the screen is by far my biggest power drain.
Where did you buy your Desire Z and how did you get it replaced? I'm with Bell and they would take mine to send out for "repair" but not sure if that will do anything. This will take 3-6 weeks apparently and I'm not sure if they it is worth it.
I'm running 10 hours with that I consider fair usage (few calls, text, map/gsp, and facebook.) My display is the highest battery usage at 60% and on for about 1:45h. I'm very disappointed.
Hey,
it's the same with my G2.
Max 24h.
I've standard ROM installed.
No WiFi.
Brightness to about 30%.
Juice Defender is installed and I'm surfing and just the regular stuff, but even if it's just in standby, it's taking a lot of power (display takes most)
Best!
-blubberor
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Where did you buy your Desire Z and how did you get it replaced? I'm with Bell and they would take mine to send out for "repair" but not sure if that will do anything. This will take 3-6 weeks apparently and I'm not sure if they it is worth it.
I'm running 10 hours with that I consider fair usage (few calls, text, map/gsp, and facebook.) My display is the highest battery usage at 60% and on for about 1:45h. I'm very disappointed.
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I bought mine at FutureShop since I didn't think Bell would let me without buying at least a month of service (or being an existing customer). I also purchased FutureShop's extended warranty which is how I was able to get it swapped for a new one so quickly.
I use the extended battery for the evo. Lasts about 1.5 days with ass loads of use. Just have to trim the plastic edges a bit.
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I have a couple of those red chichitech batteries but I wasn't able to notice any improvement with the problem phone.
My Desire Z also has a flickering screen at lowest brightness, and with moderate use it dies after about 12 hours max. Even on lowest brightness the screen ueses 59% battery. I rarely manage to make it through the day without having to charge the phone. Im on stock ROM with latest OTA (1.72) btw.
Gonna have it replaced next week just cause of the flickering screen. Has anyone tried the 1700mAH battery from seidio?
I found a very good program for my Motorola MB525 (Defy) for monitoring the battery draining from the market.
It's name is Batery Monitor Widget and it's free.
With 81% of battery it says only 7 hours and 16 minute left without doing anthing!!! The data is on and Wi-Fi connected to my home network.
Is it normal?? In the night in airplane mode after 9 hours it drain 8%-9% of battery. Again: is it normal???
If you can try this application and report your results...I think there is some application that drain my battery!!
Thanks!
Not really a comparison here, just a little story.
Yesterday i screwed up my Defy playing around with some rom. Nothing terrible, but i had no time to re-flash another rom, i had to go to work. So, i pickep up my old SE xperia x1.
After an entire day, 4-5 calls and several sms, that phone drained less than 10%. Then, last night i put the x1 in stand-by, well, that was a real stand-by, no power consumption at all.
Now i'm back to Defy, 2 hours, 15% drained...
All this just to say android is amazing but terribly hungry of power, even when the screen is off, even when airplane mode is on. I don't need a comparison to know about it
EDIT:
you said your wifi was left on, well android is hungry of data too. Even if you do nothing while wifi is on an amount of data still flows, sometimes i can see several mb downloaded by my Defy in a few hours, but no real usage by me. This also contributes, you should try to turn the wifi off or disable background data when you don't need it.
In standby (3g, sync only calendar and contacts) I have 1-1.5% battery consumption / hour. I think this is normal
With my normal usage i have some 20-40% left at the end of the day... also Ok.
WIFI on & connected will consume a lot of battery so I am not surprised.
BTW I also had an Xperia X1 and the consumption was roughly the same as the Defy... In fact more than 1-2 days on a charge I very rarely had on any of my smartphones with normal usage.
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Is it normal?? In the night in airplane mode after 9 hours it drain 8%-9% of battery. Again: is it normal???
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last week I was working in the forest for a few days with no signal at all, so I turned on airplane mode: I remember it going from 45% in the morning to 42% in the late afternoon!
(with everything turned off, just used it occasionally to have an idea of what time it was)
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In standby (3g, sync only calendar and contacts) I have 1-1.5% battery consumption / hour. I think this is normal
With my normal usage i have some 20-40% left at the end of the day... also Ok.
WIFI on & connected will consume a lot of battery so I am not surprised.
BTW I also had an Xperia X1 and the consumption was roughly the same as the Defy... In fact more than 1-2 days on a charge I very rarely had on any of my smartphones with normal usage.
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It's ok to be an android fan, i like it too, as i said it is amazing. But, battery life is definitely NOT the strong point. I can compare the two phones now, at this moment. Honestly Defy's battery life is a lot shorter.
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It's ok to be an android fan, i like it too, as i said it is amazing. But, battery life is definitely NOT the strong point. I can compare the two phones now, at this moment. Honestly Defy's battery life is a lot shorter.
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what's the other phone you compared?
I really don't have problem with Defy's battery life. As far as my memory serves, all cell phones I ever owned (7~8, all nokia, se, moto) could standby (just standby and don't use at all) for a week or made around 5 hours call. In my case Defy can also standby for a week or allow 5~6 hours usage.
I'm on a 2g network (probably helps alot), as I have wifi at home and at work. I have an exchange email, a gmail, 2 yahoo mails, and a weather app, all allowed to sync at default settings. I don't have facebook or twitter. GPS and bluetooth are enabled only when necessary (occasionally). I overclock Defy to 1000Mhz with SetVsel, and underclock to 300 when screen off. With conscious observation over some time, I find that 1% battery is consumed around every:
- 2 hours standby with wifi off; or
- 1 hour standby with wifi on; or
- 3~5 minutes usage (calls, emails, surfing,...)
thats some amazing battery life u got there abc ...what rom are u using?
hey guys, just a quick question. with which setting do you think i'll have longer battery life: 800MHz/58vsel or 1000MHz/56vsel? btw, i got my phone stable at 800MHz/45vsel
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thats some amazing battery life u got there abc ...what rom are u using?
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I was using the orange 2.2, and am using the finland 2.2 now. Both have similar battery usage.
But I have uninstalled some stock applications which I don't use but keep running in background, like BlurHome.apk (with Launcherpro), InPocketService.apk, ToggleWidgets.apk (with ExtendedControls), WeatherWidget.apk (with FancyWidget), VSuiteApp.apk etc.
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It's ok to be an android fan, i like it too, as i said it is amazing. But, battery life is definitely NOT the strong point. I can compare the two phones now, at this moment. Honestly Defy's battery life is a lot shorter.
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You may be right, I had the Xperia X1 something like 1 year ago.
I had until now FSC T830, HTC Hermes, HTC Diamond, Xperia X1, Samsung i7500 Galaxy (my first Android), Acer Liquid and now the Defy. As far as I remember I always had to charge every night (or every 2 nights at best)
Overall I think Android battery life is worse than Windows mobile was BUT I also have more background programs running now than I had in the WM days.
What I definitely don't like in Android battery life is lack of consistency. One week you get30-40 hours at a charge and suddenly 12 hours... Than you have to make detective work: look what new App might be the guilty one, check what's running in background, reboot and see if it happens again, factory reset, etc. I guess this is the price of freedom
Im on uk 2.2 and i get three days at a push i jus have a weather widget on sync every 3 hours.
Iv also undervolted 300/16 600/29 800/39 with setvsel on performance mode and up threshold on 99% and limit to vsel 1 when screen iz off
Im on three uk so im constonly on 3g and use no wifi etc etc with normal sms usage and a few calls through out off 1 charge
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thats the most i get out of mine =/
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thats the most i get out of mine =/
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There has to be something wrong in your case. I find that there seems no wifi/2g/3g connection. Could that be the problem?
I dont use 3g ..cuz its expensive in my country ..and I only turn wifi on when I need it
And that shouldnt be the case ...I think id loose a lot more battery if wi-fi would be on all the time
Anybody can give me the usual battery life of unrooted unmodded 4.0.2.A.0.42 update philippines.
Am running on moderate games, internet light to moderate.
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if you're asking unrooted, i don't think i can help much because mine's rooted, but i guess there's no real difference anyway, not if you heavily modded your phone after rooting..
i just noticed that after the 2.3.4 update, my phone's battery life just got poorer.. before the update i get like 2% deduction in battery percentage if i leave it on overnight for around 8 hours. after the update however, i was surprised from 100% it splashed down to 92% in 8hours overnight without using the phone. GPS is off, 3G is off, GSM ONLY is selected and no heavy apps installed and running. WEIRD. I think ICS is the solution now. after all, SE already confirmed it coming to our devices.
fellow filipino here mate!
quote as written above.
I think it's a phone signal issue, recently i've tryied for a couple of days to go keep the phone on airplane mode (but still using gps and wifi) and the battery life was astonishing, practically zero drain in standby, (1-2% went down during 12 hours of sleep, but with alarm ringing after that ) even with wifi and heavy usage of google maps-gps battery was amazing and could have lasted for 3 days (remember, average to heavy internet, wifi, gps and google maps using).
here's my experience with tinkering with battery stuff.
I've tryied setting manually the phone operator, as somebody here said that having it at automatic causes the phone to bug and keep scanning for an operator, but actually i couldn't notice big differencies between manual and auto.
Also i've found out that downvolting isn't worth it for me. It saves a bit of battery, but it lags the phone too much and is pointless with a gaming phone since you waste more battery always going and removing downclock when i want to play and then set it back when i finish.
overclocking wastes big chunks of battery and phone tends to overheat too much for my tastes and i know that overheating = bad for hardware so for 99% of my time i'm on 1024 ghz, which by the way isn't even THAT laggy at all.
Animated wallpapers kinda drops battery life a bit. It's up to you if you want to keep them, as for me they're fine, but i noticed that games (i've tested fifa 2012) lags a lot using christmas 3d wallpaper.
taskers like killing apps are useless for me, sometimes they MIGHT get the phone to be a little snappier, but for most of the times i feel like they EVEN drain battery MORE. I notice that the apps they kill tend to respawn a couple of minutes later, and this cycle of killing-starting does nothing more than spoil the battery. But let's say it's a personal thing of mine (hate taskers).
Let's say i trust android's automatic tasker better.
I tend to keep auto sync off and background data off too. Still to confirm if the latter saves battery or not, confirmed that the first does.
All i can say about my personal experience so far, is try to go around with only GSM, try to be smart and keep it like that when you know you won't use data connection that much, and switch back to gsm/wcdma when you feel like you would check the internet or stuff like that.
In areas with bad signal (my god forsaken girlfriends house) just pop in airplane mode or leave the phone in those areas of the house with have good signal.
Yeah you have to act like a friggin inspector gadget.
Forgot to add my personal solution to battery drain:
i just bought another original sony ericsson battery and now i always go out with one extra battery ready to come and save my days.
I can only shiver in terror at the prospect that i MIGHT go around WITHOUT my Sexplay (or with a battery dead one which is the same) :| :|
thanks mate! been turning off the 3g and average internet via wifi cuts the batt in half.
ill try to set to manual my network connection. as i am using my SExplay as my cellphone.
ICS= happy SExplay! will wait for this update. loving SE now. i mean again!
i have very strong signal in my area, so i guess the phone-scanning-for-network problem is not the culprit.. back in 2.3.3, it was a way lot better..
as of today, the phone deducted 3-5% of battery life in just an hour IDLE.
Hey narflynn, i manage to get the network scan to manual and it some way i guess it saves battery. Am using it as my daily phone with some net via wifi and am still around 80+ battery.
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oh yeah i forgot to set it to MANUAL, oh boy
I actually used to do that way back in 2.3.3
i guess that's what you get when you don't use your phone for a month.. you just forget your routine phone maintenance..
PS: my phone's hinge flex broke, wasnt able to use it for a whole month, maybe that's why i forgot the MANUAL stuff
How come you broke it? Was it good knw? How did u go with repair stuff? And the damage? I mean the cost hehehe.
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