Okay, Am I a knuclehead or not? don't answer that - myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Yes, I am running CM6 Stable on my MyTouch, but I am kind of missing the original Sense UI, yes I know it was bloated and slow but it was pretty
Does anyone know if there is a ROM ot MOD incorporating froyo or even if not froyo at the vary least APPS2SD with the original Sense UI.......
Am I crazy for asking or suggesting this?

obsidian52 said:
Yes, I am running CM6 Stable on my MyTouch, but I am kind of missing the original Sense UI, yes I know it was bloated and slow but it was pretty
Does anyone know if there is a ROM ot MOD incorporating froyo or even if not froyo at the vary least APPS2SD with the original Sense UI.......
Am I crazy for asking or suggesting this?
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This is not possible at all, I will elaborate if you want more details...

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This is not possible at all, I will elaborate if you want more details...
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thats not entirely true. espresso froyo is impossible as yet, but espresso with a2sd is absolutely possible, and its been done...Cr's OTA Mod has a2sd, im using it now and it works great. im sitting pretty at ~123mb free space...and honestly its not that slow or bloaty. my home screen is kinda slow loading every once in a while, but only cuz i have 5 screens with 7 or 8 Launch-X Pro Widgets spread between them. but before all the widgets it was hella snappy all the time.
-BMFC

that may be exactly what I am looking for...do you have a link to download or look at CR'S OTA MOD and I guess I need to be rooted to install this?

bmfc187 said:
thats not entirely true. espresso froyo is impossible as yet, but espresso with a2sd is absolutely possible, and its been done...Cr's OTA Mod has a2sd, im using it now and it works great. im sitting pretty at ~123mb free space...and honestly its not that slow or bloaty. my home screen is kinda slow loading every once in a while, but only cuz i have 5 screens with 7 or 8 Launch-X Pro Widgets spread between them. but before all the widgets it was hella snappy all the time.
-BMFC
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I mean to compine Froyo vanilla and Espresso is impossible...Why would I say espresso froyo is impossible...Cr's OTA is in the dev section, I use it and have 145 after flashing(be sure to wipe) .I dont use Apps2Sd cause I frequently remove my sdcard so it wouldnt make sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747002

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froyo with sense port??

is there a dev out there that is willing to do a froyo port from a device that has sense?? i would love to flash a froyo build, but ive just like having sense. is it currently possible to do this port?
tonyjklh said:
is there a dev out there that is willing to do a froyo port from a device that has sense?? i would love to flash a froyo build, but ive just like having sense. is it currently possible to do this port?
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Unlikely (for now). We would need another MDPI device with Sense to receive a 2.2 update (Hero, Aria, Legend) or do lots of unnecessary work (Froyo Espresso i coming out this month most likely).
Try #TeamFenix 1.7 or Eugene's MYFROYO5.zip, both are excellent CM6 ports that run much faster than Sense.
Faster than Sense? I have yet to try a Slide ROM that is faster than stock expresso, seriously.
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stoneyjonez said:
Faster than Sense? I have yet to try a Slide ROM that is faster than stock expresso, seriously.
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Huh? Are you serious? Have you tried the latest CM6 nightlies? They are *way* faster than stock espresso. Stock espresso is sluggish as hell, especially with Sense UI and that stupid "recent items" status bar pulldown display. Ugh.
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Faster than Sense? I have yet to try a Slide ROM that is faster than stock expresso, seriously.
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You have got to be kidding. TeamFenix 1.7 is pretty fast and so is Eugene's Port. I love them but they dont have bluetooth audio yet. I know it seems silly but its a deal breaker for me as of now.
slinky1914 said:
You have got to be kidding. TeamFenix 1.7 is pretty fast and so is Eugene's Port. I love them but they dont have bluetooth audio yet. I know it seems silly but its a deal breaker for me as of now.
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A clean install of CM6 8/10/10 nightly was noticeably slower than Espresso with all my apps. I think it may just be ADW. I HATE ADW Launcher. Has anyone used stock froyo launcher at all (like N1)? Is it any faster than ADW?
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stoneyjonez said:
A clean install of CM6 8/10/10 nightly was noticeably slower than Espresso with all my apps. I think it may just be ADW. I HATE ADW Launcher. Has anyone used stock froyo launcher at all (like N1)? Is it any faster than ADW?
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ADW.Launcher *is* a 'stock' launcher when you disable all the extended functionality... Just disable the action buttons, screen previews and all the other stuff.
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A clean install of CM6 8/10/10 nightly was noticeably slower than Espresso with all my apps. I think it may just be ADW. I HATE ADW Launcher. Has anyone used stock froyo launcher at all (like N1)? Is it any faster than ADW?
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ADW Launcher is faster, smaller, and in general speedier than the Froyo Launcher2.apk
Maybe you should close some applications?
Also, slinky try this:
Originally Posted by Cammarratta
under bluetooth options click off audio then click it back on. Then your bluetooth audio should be working.
HebrewToYou said:
Huh? Are you serious? Have you tried the latest CM6 nightlies? They are *way* faster than stock espresso. Stock espresso is sluggish as hell, especially with Sense UI and that stupid "recent items" status bar pulldown display. Ugh.
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SMR2 is just as fast as MYFROYO5. MYFROYO5 browser does not even come close to Espresso browser. MYFROYO5 camera/camcorder functionality is nowhere near the quality of Espresso's. Vignette covers my camera needs but the browser just plain sucks on MYFROYO5. Benchmarks definitely demonstrate huge performance increases with MYFROYO5 but somehow it doesn't seem to make a "real world" difference. Love the CM contacts and messaging but I don't mind the Espresso versions all that much. Sure love running MYFROYO5 and having great devs in the community that make it possible to do so. Going to keep MYFROYO5 on my device for a week ... gotta give it some time. Looking forward to an Espresso Froyo.
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SMR2 is just as fast as MYFROYO5. MYFROYO5 browser does not even come close to Espresso browser. MYFROYO5 camera/camcorder functionality is nowhere near the quality of Espresso's. Vignette covers my camera needs but the browser just plain sucks on MYFROYO5. Benchmarks definitely demonstrate huge performance increases with MYFROYO5 but somehow it doesn't seem to make a "real world" difference. Love the CM contacts and messaging but I don't mind the Espresso versions all that much. Sure love running MYFROYO5 and having great devs in the community that make it possible to do so. Going to keep MYFROYO5 on my device for a week ... gotta give it some time. Looking forward to an Espresso Froyo.
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My load averages are far better on #TeamFenix 1.7 then they ever were on Espresso (with the same number of widgets, mind you).
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My load averages are far better on #TeamFenix 1.7 then they ever were on Espresso (with the same number of widgets, mind you).
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I'm staying open to MYFROYO5 and I'm going to get a #TeamFenix 1.7 "setup" going as well so I can do a comparison. I think I'm way to familiar with the Espresso experience to fairly asses these great Froyo builds. Just glad that devs are still putting the effort and time into ROM's for our devices.
Ya need to try Aria sense rom-its faster than any nonsence rom period and its 2.1,why its so fast?I have no idea,only thing that keeps me from using it is that you cant install apps from uknown sources(att restriction).
lviv73 said:
Ya need to try Aria sense rom-its faster than any nonsence rom period and its 2.1,why its so fast?I have no idea,only thing that keeps me from using it is that you cant install apps from uknown sources(att restriction).
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This is either the placebo effect or XDA Syndrome.
i felt the same way but only thing i missed was swaype and friend stream so i got swpe and simple status wiget and the facebook tweeter apps and iam good runnung 2,2 and loveing it
watchu smokin?
stoneyjonez said:
Faster than Sense? I have yet to try a Slide ROM that is faster than stock expresso, seriously.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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whatever your smoking i want some cause my slide running cm6 has been 2-3x faster than my sense rom.
bhang
You all need to chill. The guy wants a Sense ROM with 2.2, and you're all telling him that he DOESN'T want that. You're just as bad as some of the sales people at T-Mobile, telling people what they do and don't want when they know what they want.
Personally, I can't do without the integrated social networking in the phone. I've tried running CM's builds and such and I just can't do it, especially with the facebook contact sync broken and lack of the integrated friend stream, which is what this guy wants.
Just because you all can do without those things doesn't mean that other people are so quick to give them up.
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You all need to chill. The guy wants a Sense ROM with 2.2, and you're all telling him that he DOESN'T want that. You're just as bad as some of the sales people at T-Mobile, telling people what they do and don't want when they know what they want.
Personally, I can't do without the integrated social networking in the phone. I've tried running CM's builds and such and I just can't do it, especially with the facebook contact sync broken and lack of the integrated friend stream, which is what this guy wants.
Just because you all can do without those things doesn't mean that other people are so quick to give them up.
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Uhhhhhhhh
Download T-Mobile Social Buzz -- it provides Facebook, Flickr and Twitter contact integration on ANY rom. That's what I'm using right now on my CM6 nightly.
HebrewToYou said:
Uhhhhhhhh
Download T-Mobile Social Buzz -- it provides Facebook, Flickr and Twitter contact integration on ANY rom. That's what I'm using right now on my CM6 nightly.
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Again, different strokes for different folks.
xenoletum said:
Again, different strokes for different folks.
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Okay...
But this "Facebook sync is broken on CM6" meme is just plain misleading. Let it die.
i love cm froyo but i really miss my contacts having their facebook photos

[Q] Excuse me,Touch Proers,can we install the HTC sense UI on XDAndroid2.2 ?

I find the HTC sense UI is beautiful,someone will do it?
Thank U.
gengxi said:
I find the HTC sense UI is beautiful,someone will do it?
Thank U.
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You can run it on 2.1, but there's no 2.2 ROM that we can port sense from...
I know its personal preference, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to. The 2.1 version that ran Sense was dog slow and very buggy. IMO, even at it's best, Sense will slow down any system.
reverendkjr said:
I know its personal preference, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to. The 2.1 version that ran Sense was dog slow and very buggy. IMO, even at it's best, Sense will slow down any system.
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Bingo. I think acl is trying to get a ROM from the Desire ported with 2.2/senseui... but I'm sure it'll be slow as heck.
If Android was consistently smooth & quick, then maybe more attention would be given to this cause, but if on a basic level there are still issues... you can't expect something as advanced (and proprietary!) as SenseUI to work well or at all.
But you make a good point. If you want sense, run the rosie 2.1 builds
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Bingo. I think acl is trying to get a ROM from the Desire ported with 2.2/senseui... but I'm sure it'll be slow as heck.
If Android was consistently smooth & quick, then maybe more attention would be given to this cause, but if on a basic level there are still issues... you can't expect something as advanced (and proprietary!) as SenseUI to work well or at all.
But you make a good point. If you want sense, run the rosie 2.1 builds
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in my opinion the best thing for our phone should be 1.6+sense (1.6 is blazin fast) or 2.2+sense,eclair is slower
Anyone want to attempt to port "goapk froyo sense 2.2.1" from HTC HERO? I have somewhat successfully ported a HERO rom from CM FRF91 to HTC Fuze but I'm trying to work on 2.1 Espresso port to ext2 right now.
Might try goapk froyo again later.
e334 said:
Anyone want to attempt to port "goapk froyo sense 2.2.1" from HTC HERO? I have somewhat successfully ported a HERO rom from CM FRF91 to HTC Fuze but I'm trying to work on 2.1 Espresso port to ext2 right now.
Might try goapk froyo again later.
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I would definitely help you if I knew how to port
Or you could try to port from EVO's 2.2 (tried my friends yesterday, and it's definately Android 2.2 (verified in software info.)
djdafreund said:
Or you could try to port from EVO's 2.2 (tried my friends yesterday, and it's definately Android 2.2 (verified in software info.)
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Evo hardware isn't even close to ours... As stated previously, the Hero would probably be the best bet.
I thought someone made mention of it actually working on their device in IRC
XirXes said:
VICTORY. I have successfully converted the sense build to ext2. and with only 3 operating systems involved in the process! 00:05
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I thought someone made mention of it actually working on their device in IRC
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He's talking about the 2.1 build. It was still sqshfs, he's talking about converting the sqsh file to ext2...
I don't see any mention of 2.2...
I don't think it would matter. All the reading's i've done say Sense based xdandroid build's are a fair bit slower. I've personally used 1.6 android with sense, well before i started using 2.2, and i agree it was much more laggy (like a second's or more when selecting something, and also when flipping through different screen's, and sense tabs.
I wouldn't bother. Granted i LOVE sense on my touch pro, i would recommend to use the one's HTC makes (they might not SAY they did, but undeniably look identical) offered on the Market, and are pretty cheap actually. I was thinking about buying a couple, but saw some free ones that aren't THAT much difference in looks for free.
I would like to see Sense added to 2.2 if it's not hurting speed and lag though for SURE, but the 1.6 i tried for a week i stopped right away cause it was unbearable to use anymore.
The problem is that including HTC sense widgets would be illegal and infringing on htc's copyright on those widgets/design..
Well, it's no different then the available Android 1.6 w/ Sense that's been around for a while here. Not that i am agreeing on it being right or wrong of course. Course that's kind of why i was mentioning about the FREE alternatives, to avoid that debate.
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He's talking about the 2.1 build. It was still sqshfs, he's talking about converting the sqsh file to ext2...
I don't see any mention of 2.2...
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If it counts, I actually converted mine (converted the sqshfs to ext2; used an app jesusfreak mentioned when I first got on irc) but I'm not 100% sure it works
To be honest, I'm not looking for any specific aside from the launcher ( maybe ) or the theme. It ( not talking about the converted sqshfs ) was working or so I thought. I'll have to break out my 4GB microSD and extract what I had working to tell you for sure what I have working and what-not.
I have the link saved on my laptop and will be happy to share this when I get back on my computer, I'm at work currently.
EDIT
Staysafe is the app but development has been halted/abandoned (I beleive)
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I mean a real ext2 partition, not just a .ext2 compressed file..
sorry if I confused you guys
e334 said:
I mean a real ext2 partition, not just a .ext2 compressed file..
sorry if I confused you guys
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Ah, you want something like the neopeek builds
Yes, I am in the process of porting 2.2 Sense goapk from HTC Hero with sd card ext2 partition
I have not abandoned it.. just yet

HTC Sense vs No Sense (kinda)

So I am using Myn's Rom right now and sense. I do like how everything looks as of right now but when I checked the linpack scores I was only getting 29 MFlops.
Its not a big deal but some people are getting 50/49MFlops
So is Sense really bloatware and slowing down the phone? Should I go back to LauncherPro, ar ADW
Are people just turning up the CPU just to do this test? Etc?
Again Im not too worried since my phone is running smooth, I was just asking
Globetrahter said:
So I am using Myn's Rom right now and sense. I do like how everything looks as of right now but when I checked the linpack scores I was only getting 29 MFlops.
Its not a big deal but some people are getting 50/49MFlops
So is Sense really bloatware and slowing down the phone? Should I go back to LauncherPro, ar ADW
Are people just turning up the CPU just to do this test? Etc?
Again Im not too worried since my phone is running smooth, I was just asking
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if you ran adw or launcher pro you'd still be running sense, you just wouldnt be running the rosie launcher or widgets. really not gonna make much of a difference.
That makes sense and I did not think of that lol, my bad,
So, would I basically have to run the flash to remove Sense and Sprint Bloatware?
I probably wont but still
Globetrahter said:
That makes sense and I did not think of that lol, my bad,
So, would I basically have to run the flash to remove Sense and Sprint Bloatware?
I probably wont but still
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How many kernels have you tried?
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
I have used bs kernel 6 and now #9 from myns post. I believe bfs, I would be mote specific but on phone now
Globetrahter
you can jsut run a script to remove them yes. It wont make a huge impact on your performance as said before. it may make a small diffrence since some of the apps used to run in the background and no longer can but you wont see much change.
the main benefit of removing them is freeing up space. if youa rent using sense and the htc widgets and all the sprint crap etc it is jsut taking up room that could be used for better stuff.
anyway see signature for a link to my script and the app regaw made so you can easily edit it to your prefrence.
omegasun18 said:
you can jsut run a script to remove them yes. It wont make a huge impact on your performance as said before. it may make a small diffrence since some of the apps used to run in the background and no longer can but you wont see much change.
the main benefit of removing them is freeing up space. if youa rent using sense and the htc widgets and all the sprint crap etc it is jsut taking up room that could be used for better stuff.
anyway see signature for a link to my script and the app regaw made so you can easily edit it to your prefrence.
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Thanks, Ill check this out
Globetrahter said:
So I am using Myn's Rom right now and sense. I do like how everything looks as of right now but when I checked the linpack scores I was only getting 29 MFlops.
Its not a big deal but some people are getting 50/49MFlops
So is Sense really bloatware and slowing down the phone? Should I go back to LauncherPro, ar ADW
Are people just turning up the CPU just to do this test? Etc?
Again Im not too worried since my phone is running smooth, I was just asking
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If your phone is running smooth and you are happy with sense then no reason to get rid of it. Me I find aosp roms like cyanogens better. I like the clean look of stock android and none of the bloat of sense. The only way to really get rid of sense is to flash a rom that was built from the ground up without any sense built in. Most of the custom roms you'll find here are actually based on sense and will have parts of it in the core.

[Q] HTC Sense or Cyanogen?

Ok, I want to give the Cyanogen ROM a go, but I want to know which is better with your opinions, and since I'm on a Sense ROM at the moment, if I did a nand backup, wiped etc, flashed Cyanogen and found it difficult to get used to, would I be able to go back with just a nand restore?
Thank You
Tazur Rahman
sHaHiN786 said:
Ok, I want to give the Cyanogen ROM a go, but I want to know which is better with your opinions, and since I'm on a Sense ROM at the moment, if I did a nand backup, wiped etc, flashed Cyanogen and found it difficult to get used to, would I be able to go back with just a nand restore?
Thank You
Tazur Rahman
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I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
ciderz said:
I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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Does this completely void the warranty though? Just read it on the Cyanogen thread.
Regards.
Thanks added.
In theory you've already voided your warranty by flashing s-off bootloader
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ciderz said:
I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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nice screens, what clock is that?
rosswaa said:
nice screens, what clock is that?
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It's called SiMiclock.
nickhammond121 said:
In theory you've already voided your warranty by flashing s-off bootloader
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Cheers. Foolish me.
ciderz said:
I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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Wahey!! I'm now on Cyanogen, so bloody awesome!! I'm loving it, the fact that you could tewa the equalizer means bye bye to Dolby, I prefer using my personal tweak, everything is amazing, so far battery's running right, I hope it stays this way, thanks for your recommendation, where did you get your theme? I'm currently on the Lucid theme.
Thanks
Hi guys, I'm currently on a Sense based ROM but very interested in trying Cyanogen, the only thing holding me back is HTC Sense. I sync all my SMS with HTC Sense so that when I change between ROMs I won't lose my SMSes. Can you still use/sync to HTC Sense in Cyanogen? Thanks!
sHaHiN786 said:
Wahey!! I'm now on Cyanogen, so bloody awesome!! I'm loving it, the fact that you could tewa the equalizer means bye bye to Dolby, I prefer using my personal tweak, everything is amazing, so far battery's running right, I hope it stays this way, thanks for your recommendation, where did you get your theme? I'm currently on the Lucid theme.
Thanks
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Glad you like cyanogen
Theme,icons and wallpapers are here,use 200dpi version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859548
using launcher pro and launcher pro icons ,off market.
splash screen and how to apply them are here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855490&page=58
Before you install the theme use root explorer and copy system/media/bootanimation.zip to your sd card .
install the theme then copy back bootanimation.zip.
bookmark home off the market.
enjoy.
SW7 said:
Hi guys, I'm currently on a Sense based ROM but very interested in trying Cyanogen, the only thing holding me back is HTC Sense. I sync all my SMS with HTC Sense so that when I change between ROMs I won't lose my SMSes. Can you still use/sync to HTC Sense in Cyanogen? Thanks!
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sync with google instead ,then you will have np no sense on cyanogen.
If I had to go back to sense Id sell my phone..
I love my DHD now...
is cyanogen best rom for now?
DarkVasyaK said:
is cyanogen best rom for now?
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Personaly, I like the Sparta rom more (vanilla android + some sense interfaces). But cyanogen is good to. Hell, everything is better then sense!
rixsta said:
If I had to go back to sense Id sell my phone..
I love my DHD now...
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Wow! Is it really that much better?? So what exactly do gain or lose with Cyanogen comparing to Sense? I know Cyanogen is a lot cleaner/lighter and therefore faster than Sense; and you get DSP Manager but lose Dolby Mobile and SRS; you'll have ADW/Launcher Pro and of course lose the Sense UI...what else??
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Wow! Is it really that much better?? So what exactly do gain or lose with Cyanogen comparing to Sense? I know Cyanogen is a lot cleaner/lighter and therefore faster than Sense; and you get DSP Manager but lose Dolby Mobile and SRS; you'll have ADW/Launcher Pro and of course lose the Sense UI...what else??
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Most of the differences are in the kernel and not really the build. All 3rd party softwares can be installed on both Cyanogen and Sense....
Leechoonhwee said:
Most of the differences are in the kernel and not really the build. All 3rd party softwares can be installed on both Cyanogen and Sense....
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I see. In that case, how does a custom Sense ROM + a custom kernel compare to a Cyanogen ROM with the same custom kernel? I guess the later would be quicker due to it's lighter?
SW7 said:
I see. In that case, how does a custom Sense ROM + a custom kernel compare to a Cyanogen ROM with the same custom kernel? I guess the later would be quicker due to it's lighter?
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Yes, I'd like to understand the differences as well.
Apart form some enthusiastic but not very informative "CM blows Sense to sh1t!" statements, I haven't seen any clear explanation of what the benefits of CM are? If it is simply the removal of Sense then that is a subjective improvement. Coming from a Magic (on CM) I know that many people over there spent their efforts getting Sense to work on that handset. Personally, I like Sense, it is clean and has a number of useful or flashy widgets and with the hardware of the DHD it is smooth and fast. I've rooted my DHD to Leedroid (mainly because I can't stop tinkering) but I'm holding from CM much as i liked it on the Magic because I just can't see the advantages..
Maybe someone could explain them for the more nooby amongst us?
Can you have more/less screens?
Can you organise you apps? Hide them?
Landscape home?
A list would be nice.
Personally, I like HTC Sense because it's clean and has uniformity as a UI. But if I have time spend 80% of my phone/device just customizing the UI again and again rather than using it then I would go for Cyanogen.
derkie said:
Personally, I like HTC Sense because it's clean and has uniformity as a UI. But if I have time spend 80% of my phone/device just customizing the UI again and again rather than using it then I would go for Cyanogen.
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Yep. Just tried CM6 and whilst there is nothing wrong with it all, and it is possibly faster than stock, I just can't be ar$ed with tweaking all the settings to get the phone to have a bit of uniformity in its looks and operation.
Sense might be a bit bloated, but you don't need to use it and on the DHD it runs fine.
I think it is more of a aesthetic thing than anything else.

[Q] What is the Best stable Sense 3.0 Rom?

what is the best sense 3.0 rom? and where do you find it.. and is there instructions for it as well..
thank you again all.. i am learning.. it takes time .. and i appreciate all your knowledge..
OK there's no "best" rom because each developer is different and every person like different things so you just have to do your homework start downloading and flashing different roms and you will see the one that's the "best" for you.
All of the as far as I know have instructions on the first page of the thread
I'm using WildStang83 Desire Inc HD. Here's the link try it I'm sure you will like it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253492
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Kratz17 said:
OK there's no "best" rom because each developer is different and every person like different things so you just have to do your homework start downloading and flashing different roms and you will see the one that's the "best" for you.
All of the as far as I know have instructions on the first page of the thread
I'm using WildStang83 Desire Inc HD. Here's the link try it I'm sure you will like it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253492
Sent From My Optimized HTC Incredibly Dinc
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Yeah that one looks great so far.. does it have the weather animations also.. and live weather wallpaper animations..
thank you again..
it would be nice if there was a thread that had all the links to the different Sense 3.0 roms.. and or a thread that had links to all the good roms..
marsgrafx09 said:
Yeah that one looks great so far.. does it have the weather animations also.. and live weather wallpaper animations..
thank you again..
it would be nice if there was a thread that had all the links to the different Sense 3.0 roms.. and or a thread that had links to all the good roms..
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Yea it got both weather animation and live wallpaper weather animation
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awesome thank you
Kratz17 said:
Yea it got both weather animation and live wallpaper weather animation
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awesome thank you
No problem we are here to help my friend
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marsgrafx09 said:
Yeah that one looks great so far.. does it have the weather animations also.. and live weather wallpaper animations..
thank you again..
it would be nice if there was a thread that had all the links to the different Sense 3.0 roms.. and or a thread that had links to all the good roms..
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Today's your lucky day!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
WOW
Bull_Moose said:
Today's your lucky day!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
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Holy MOlly... wow .. thats alot.. i knew there was a list some where..
thank you..
which unrevoked do i use.. ?
which unrevoked do i use.. ?
is it easier to do it on mac ? or pc ?
marsgrafx09 said:
which unrevoked do i use.. ?
is it easier to do it on mac ? or pc ?
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Unrevoked3 or Unrevoked Forever? I've never messed with the latter but all it does is switch S-On to S-Off.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
Use caution and do some research before jumping right into all of this hacking and modding. You can really mess your phone up if you don't know what you're doing. (Not saying you don't, this is a "just in case" lol)
Also, I have only used it on PC but I doubt there's much of a difference.
I was wondering if the Sense 3.0 roms that have Gingerbread, are they using the same Gingerbread that we got from the OTA? Or are they using a ported Gingerbread?
Bull_Moose said:
Unrevoked3 or Unrevoked Forever? I've never messed with the latter but all it does is switch S-On to S-Off.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
Use caution and do some research before jumping right into all of this hacking and modding. You can really mess your phone up if you don't know what you're doing. (Not saying you don't, this is a "just in case" lol)
Also, I have only used it on PC but I doubt there's much of a difference.
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thank you .. I DONT know what i am doing ..YET.. i am trying to figure this out..
i dont want to mess my phone up. i love my Dinc.. but i want gingerbread and Sense 3.0..
i am def nervous about doing this.. i really wish there was an easier and step by step way to do this.. and someone who would help walk through it all ..
jakob95 said:
I was wondering if the Sense 3.0 roms that have Gingerbread, are they using the same Gingerbread that we got from the OTA? Or are they using a ported Gingerbread?
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I believe they are using a ported GB since most ROMs were made prior to the OTA. They may update their ROMs with the official one over time.
marsgrafx09 said:
thank you .. I DONT know what i am doing ..YET.. i am trying to figure this out..
i dont want to mess my phone up. i love my Dinc.. but i want gingerbread and Sense 3.0..
i am def nervous about doing this.. i really wish there was an easier and step by step way to do this.. and someone who would help walk through it all ..
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I think we were all nervous our first time, but it's really not that hard. Here's a video tutorial. Granted, he's using a Mac lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TLKhFlYbLo
Search YouTube or Google for other tutorials if you want to make sure.
I was wondering if most of these ROMs could even handle 3.0 or 3.5 on the Incredible, like does it lag or force close? Because I heard to run 3.0 good you need to have a Dual-Core processor.
jakob95 said:
I was wondering if most of these ROMs could even handle 3.0 or 3.5 on the Incredible, like does it lag or force close? Because I heard to run 3.0 good you need to have a Dual-Core processor.
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The ROMs with 3.0 ported from the Desire run very smooth. Other than that they run a little laggy, but not bad.
I'm running Sense 3.5 ported from the Bliss at the moment. It's not too laggy but not as snappy as it could be had it been made for a single core device. There's a 3.5 leak which was built for a 1.5ghz phone floating around that may spawn some new ROMs for our beloved Incredible.
EDIT: Not five minutes after I posted this, look what I came across: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262492
Why are some of these ROMs not on the list?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Another thing which ROM would be better for a person like me? All I want is a new version of Sense and for it to run smoothly and not cause me trouble.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253492
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175842
Which do you know is faster? Are any of the two based on the Incredibles 2.3 update? Or its a ported 2.3?
jakob95 said:
Why are some of these ROMs not on the list?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Another thing which ROM would be better for a person like me? All I want is a new version of Sense and for it to run smoothly and not cause me trouble.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253492
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175842
Which do you know is faster? Are any of the two based on the Incredibles 2.3 update? Or its a ported 2.3?
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The list just may not be updated yet.
As for the two linked to, I have used both and found that Desired Inc runs smoother than Nils' Business Gingersense 3.0. HOWEVER, I would strongly recommend you check out Nils' Business Gingersense 2.1/3.0. It has elements of both versions of Sense and is amazing. It's FAST, has a ton of features, stable, and is very pleasing to the eyes. By far my favorite ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104883
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The list just may not be updated yet.
As for the two linked to, I have used both and found that Desired Inc runs smoother than Nils' Business Gingersense 3.0. HOWEVER, I would strongly recommend you check out Nils' Business Gingersense 2.1/3.0. It has elements of both versions of Sense and is amazing. It's FAST, has a ton of features, stable, and is very pleasing to the eyes. By far my favorite ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104883
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What do you mean it has elements of both versions? So its basically 2.1 but themed like 3.0?
And how about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253271 that ROM how does it compare to the Desired Inc ROM/Gingersence 2.1/3.0?
jakob95 said:
What do you mean it has elements of both versions? So its basically 2.1 but themed like 3.0?
And how about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253271 that ROM how does it compare to the Desired Inc ROM/Gingersence 2.1/3.0?
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His 2.1/3.0 hybrid has 3.0 widgets and apps whereas the ROM itself is built on a 2.1 base. (I think, don't quote me on it) Either way, it's a damn good ROM.
I've never used Ace Revolution. Nearly everything Joelz puts out gets high praise so you can try it. Some have reported losing root but that can be fixed by restoring an old backup.
Bull_Moose said:
His 2.1/3.0 hybrid has 3.0 widgets and apps whereas the ROM itself is built on a 2.1 base. (I think, don't quote me on it) Either way, it's a damn good ROM.
I've never used Ace Revolution. Nearly everything Joelz puts out gets high praise so you can try it. Some have reported losing root but that can be fixed by restoring an old backup.
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It would be faster to be on the 2.1 right? I was wondering whats faster the Nils rom or the regular stock 2.3?

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