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Legend ROM port, better for our Heros instead of official 2.1?

Hi,
Most Hero ROMs try to port FriendStream, News and Live Wallpapers from the Legend/Desire to our Heros but wouldn't be better to just use a Legend port?
I've read about a few problems in the past, when we were still waiting for the official 2.1 update for the Hero and the Legend/Desire were just being released, about doing stuff like this that it would never be 100% like the current official 2.1 update for the Hero (well, it's not 100% either, but you know what I mean).
But now we have official RUU updates from the Legend (the most similar to the Hero of the new phones) we also have the source for the Hero 2.1 kernel, wouldn't that be enough to create a good and fully working port for the Hero? Wouldn't be better instead of using the official Hero 2.1?
I'm not as experienced as most devs here, that's why I'm wondering if this would be better and if there's some problem porting the Legend ROM that I'm overlooking...

No one has an opinion on this?

Nazgulled said:
No one has an opinion on this?
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There was this ROM called Legendroid, I don't remember who was the developer But the ROM was pretty fast and stable.

Dr.dre said:
There was this ROM called Legendroid, I don't remember who was the developer But the ROM was pretty fast and stable.
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Sure, but that doesn't really "answer my question"
I mean, we know have the source code for the kernel, which we didn't back then when such ROMs were released...
I'm wondering if that makes a difference...

Changing the kernel is not enough.

You could be more explicit...

I'm not a dev, but as a user I can say, that those were slow and battery sucker.
But if you do one what is speedy, uses battery at least as good as the official based ones, and it'll have more features....
Hero community will love you C:

liljom said:
I'm not a dev, but as a user I can say, that those were slow and battery sucker.
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I am pretty sure this was caused by the lack of the .29 kernel it should be better now.
Well I can't really see why a Legend ROM would be better than a Hero ROM, but I would like the News Reader Widget, I find it dumb how HTC wouldn't give the 2.1 Hero this widget but whatever.
OH btw don't take this as discouragement by all means go for it since most people ditched their Legend ROMs so if you can do it I don't see why not variety is good .

i thought the only problems transferring features from the legend ROM was the friendstream widget as everything else was ported over to normal Hero ROMs one way or another before the official 2.1 RUU came out.
it would obviously be easier to port the extra stuff from the legend ROM to the Hero ROMs

I don't think it would cause the Legend ROM has more things than the News and FriendStream widgets... For instance, the browser has quick actions for selected text which is cool, the mail widget has 3 variants (Hero's only have 1). And I'm sure there lots of other tiny little details...
It's a pain to port all these things one by one, it's just easier (I think) to port the whole thing with a Hero kernel (but I'm not the one to do it).
And I'm sure there are other "hidden" stuff that our Heros lack, it's just their way to differentiate their phones. It sucks for customers, but it's good for them.

Nazgulled said:
I don't think it would cause the Legend ROM has more things than the News and FriendStream widgets... For instance, the browser has quick actions for selected text which is cool, the mail widget has 3 variants (Hero's only have 1). And I'm sure there lots of other tiny little details...
It's a pain to port all these things one by one, it's just easier (I think) to port the whole thing with a Hero kernel (but I'm not the one to do it).
And I'm sure there are other "hidden" stuff that our Heros lack, it's just their way to differentiate their phones. It sucks for customers, but it's good for them.
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If we take a legend port suppose would you be able to modify the Hero kernal to work on the port with OC.

As I said, it is not only the kernel that needs to be changed. But... we already have a Legend port... Fallah

I don't want to be rude but cloud you please stop saying that changing the kernel is not enough without explaining why and/or what else is needed?
You're not being very helpful like that...
And that Legend port is not based on WWE, so it would be a no go for me.

Nazgulled said:
I don't want to be rude but cloud you please stop saying that changing the kernel is not enough without explaining why and/or what else is needed?
You're not being very helpful like that...
And that Legend port is not based on WWE, so it would be a no go for me.
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Have u tried asking the author of Fallah about it?

you guys got some response at least. good try.
my post in june just got rejected and ignored about the same exact thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698053
should have free time in the coming months and i'm going to try make a legend port. i'm not a "dev" i know a little but i cant do what a lot of these guys do by any means. if its stable i might share
still use my G1 for random development as well as a magic 32b and now i got the desire i can try be brave and try out things on the hero.
logcat is your friend

There is a legend ROM on this Swedish forum. But the ROM should be wwe.
http://www.swedroid.se/forum/showthread.php?t=8217

Nazgulled said:
I don't want to be rude but cloud you please stop saying that changing the kernel is not enough without explaining why and/or what else is needed?
You're not being very helpful like that...
And that Legend port is not based on WWE, so it would be a no go for me.
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I tried using Legendroid 1.0.1 with Behnaam .29 kernal Ben 23 with OC, It works very well except for the Browser it lags a bit rest all is fine

Dr.dre said:
I tried using Legendroid 1.0.1 with Behnaam .29 kernal Ben 23 with OC, It works very well except for the Browser it lags a bit rest all is fine
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could you please add links to each post where we can download those two flashable files?
Also, has anyone tried fallah or the swedish rom yet? I downloaded them both just now but am running the just released updated cronos froyo rom right now and don't want to reflash until I've tested this baby thoroughly.
what I miss most about the old legend ports was the FAR superior text selector system with zooming etc. Is that part of these roms or was that a bit of a hack in the older roms? it sure was sweet....
It really should be part of android, but considering it's similar to the apple copy/paste concept, I'm wondering if there might be some patent infringement going on there which might explain why it's not used by HTC in other roms than the legend stuff. But that is just a rumor I pieced together myself so it's probably wrong.
anyway, it's the best text selector system on android. froyo's selector comes close but isn't still as good imho.

Azure465 said:
There is a legend ROM on this Swedish forum. But the ROM should be wwe.
http://www.swedroid.se/forum/showthread.php?t=8217
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It looks hacked with a different theme, I'm not very fond of that... Thanks for sharing though.
I might try to do a port myself when I get the chance, similar to the Nebulae (my own ROM) features and see how that goes...

Nazgulled said:
It looks hacked with a different theme, I'm not very fond of that... Thanks for sharing though.
I might try to do a port myself when I get the chance, similar to the Nebulae (my own ROM) features and see how that goes...
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i have ported a legend rom, newest ruu from shipped roms...
it works pretty good, exept wifi, need a modified libhardware_legacy.so, so it use the wlan.ko instead of tiwlan_drv.ko :/
have to make a alfa corner, so we maybe can work on the problems together...
but all that when i come back from my vacation...

[Q] Excuse me,Touch Proers,can we install the HTC sense UI on XDAndroid2.2 ?

I find the HTC sense UI is beautiful,someone will do it?
Thank U.

gengxi said:
I find the HTC sense UI is beautiful,someone will do it?
Thank U.
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You can run it on 2.1, but there's no 2.2 ROM that we can port sense from...

I know its personal preference, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to. The 2.1 version that ran Sense was dog slow and very buggy. IMO, even at it's best, Sense will slow down any system.

reverendkjr said:
I know its personal preference, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to. The 2.1 version that ran Sense was dog slow and very buggy. IMO, even at it's best, Sense will slow down any system.
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Bingo. I think acl is trying to get a ROM from the Desire ported with 2.2/senseui... but I'm sure it'll be slow as heck.
If Android was consistently smooth & quick, then maybe more attention would be given to this cause, but if on a basic level there are still issues... you can't expect something as advanced (and proprietary!) as SenseUI to work well or at all.
But you make a good point. If you want sense, run the rosie 2.1 builds

arrrghhh said:
Bingo. I think acl is trying to get a ROM from the Desire ported with 2.2/senseui... but I'm sure it'll be slow as heck.
If Android was consistently smooth & quick, then maybe more attention would be given to this cause, but if on a basic level there are still issues... you can't expect something as advanced (and proprietary!) as SenseUI to work well or at all.
But you make a good point. If you want sense, run the rosie 2.1 builds
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in my opinion the best thing for our phone should be 1.6+sense (1.6 is blazin fast) or 2.2+sense,eclair is slower

Anyone want to attempt to port "goapk froyo sense 2.2.1" from HTC HERO? I have somewhat successfully ported a HERO rom from CM FRF91 to HTC Fuze but I'm trying to work on 2.1 Espresso port to ext2 right now.
Might try goapk froyo again later.

e334 said:
Anyone want to attempt to port "goapk froyo sense 2.2.1" from HTC HERO? I have somewhat successfully ported a HERO rom from CM FRF91 to HTC Fuze but I'm trying to work on 2.1 Espresso port to ext2 right now.
Might try goapk froyo again later.
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I would definitely help you if I knew how to port

Or you could try to port from EVO's 2.2 (tried my friends yesterday, and it's definately Android 2.2 (verified in software info.)

djdafreund said:
Or you could try to port from EVO's 2.2 (tried my friends yesterday, and it's definately Android 2.2 (verified in software info.)
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Evo hardware isn't even close to ours... As stated previously, the Hero would probably be the best bet.

I thought someone made mention of it actually working on their device in IRC
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VICTORY. I have successfully converted the sense build to ext2. and with only 3 operating systems involved in the process! 00:05
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R^7Z said:
I thought someone made mention of it actually working on their device in IRC
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He's talking about the 2.1 build. It was still sqshfs, he's talking about converting the sqsh file to ext2...
I don't see any mention of 2.2...

I don't think it would matter. All the reading's i've done say Sense based xdandroid build's are a fair bit slower. I've personally used 1.6 android with sense, well before i started using 2.2, and i agree it was much more laggy (like a second's or more when selecting something, and also when flipping through different screen's, and sense tabs.
I wouldn't bother. Granted i LOVE sense on my touch pro, i would recommend to use the one's HTC makes (they might not SAY they did, but undeniably look identical) offered on the Market, and are pretty cheap actually. I was thinking about buying a couple, but saw some free ones that aren't THAT much difference in looks for free.
I would like to see Sense added to 2.2 if it's not hurting speed and lag though for SURE, but the 1.6 i tried for a week i stopped right away cause it was unbearable to use anymore.

The problem is that including HTC sense widgets would be illegal and infringing on htc's copyright on those widgets/design..

Well, it's no different then the available Android 1.6 w/ Sense that's been around for a while here. Not that i am agreeing on it being right or wrong of course. Course that's kind of why i was mentioning about the FREE alternatives, to avoid that debate.

arrrghhh said:
He's talking about the 2.1 build. It was still sqshfs, he's talking about converting the sqsh file to ext2...
I don't see any mention of 2.2...
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If it counts, I actually converted mine (converted the sqshfs to ext2; used an app jesusfreak mentioned when I first got on irc) but I'm not 100% sure it works
To be honest, I'm not looking for any specific aside from the launcher ( maybe ) or the theme. It ( not talking about the converted sqshfs ) was working or so I thought. I'll have to break out my 4GB microSD and extract what I had working to tell you for sure what I have working and what-not.
I have the link saved on my laptop and will be happy to share this when I get back on my computer, I'm at work currently.
EDIT
Staysafe is the app but development has been halted/abandoned (I beleive)
CLICK HERE

I mean a real ext2 partition, not just a .ext2 compressed file..
sorry if I confused you guys

e334 said:
I mean a real ext2 partition, not just a .ext2 compressed file..
sorry if I confused you guys
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Ah, you want something like the neopeek builds

Yes, I am in the process of porting 2.2 Sense goapk from HTC Hero with sd card ext2 partition
I have not abandoned it.. just yet

[Q] Is there a viable Gingerbread 2.3 Rom for Desire HD yet?

I had an original Hero a while ago and was using Modaco roms but that was over a year ago now before jumping to Palm Pre for a bit.
So I am totally new on modern hacks and concerning the DHD.
I know I need to downgrade and something called S-OFF and Visionary. However what I need to know is if I use a 2.3 Rom presumably from a Cyanogen source will I have full functionality? All Google Apps? Can I still use HTC Sense widgets if I choose too? Will HTCSense.com still work?
Thanks

Noxis said:
I had an original Hero a while ago and was using Modaco roms but that was over a year ago now before jumping to Palm Pre for a bit.
So I am totally new on modern hacks and concerning the DHD.
I know I need to downgrade and something called S-OFF and Visionary. However what I need to know is if I use a 2.3 Rom presumably from a Cyanogen source will I have full functionality? All Google Apps? Can I still use HTC Sense widgets if I choose too? Will HTCSense.com still work?
Thanks
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Depends where you get it from, but on here most are full of bugs currently, I would wait until they are ironed out. No HTCSense.com won't work without the HTC Sense homescreen, but I would only worry about this if you REALLY need the service. Google Apps will work, and if they arent supplied they can be downloaded from the Market

Noxis said:
I had an original Hero a while ago and was using Modaco roms but that was over a year ago now before jumping to Palm Pre for a bit.
So I am totally new on modern hacks and concerning the DHD.
I know I need to downgrade and something called S-OFF and Visionary. However what I need to know is if I use a 2.3 Rom presumably from a Cyanogen source will I have full functionality? All Google Apps? Can I still use HTC Sense widgets if I choose too? Will HTCSense.com still work?
Thanks
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Sense ROM's, no as HTC has yet to port sense to Gingerbread as for Viable GB rom's have a look in the development forum
SlightlyJack said:
Depends where you get it from, but on here most are full of bugs currently, I would wait until they are ironed out. No HTCSense.com won't work without the HTC Sense homescreen, but I would only worry about this if you REALLY need the service. Google Apps will work, and if they arent supplied they can be downloaded from the Market
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Really? I have been running Cm7 (compiled from source and Now nightlies) and the only bug is a quirk in video playback in portrait mode everything else works fine, true if you like sense cm isn't gonna be your bag but otherwise it's great

ghostofcain said:
Sense ROM's, no as HTC has yet to port sense to Gingerbread as for Viable GB rom's have a look in the development forum
Really? I have been running Cm7 (compiled from source and Now nightlies) and the only bug is a quirk in video playback in portrait mode everything else works fine, true if you like sense cm isn't gonna be your bag but otherwise it's great
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No I want to try vanilla 2.3 for a bit. I have only ever used Android with Sense overlay.
You saying the Cm7 nightlys are stable for day2day use and all apps are available on it? Is it the thread over in Dev forum?

Noxis said:
No I want to try vanilla 2.3 for a bit. I have only ever used Android with Sense overlay.
You saying the Cm7 nightlys are stable for day2day use and all apps are available on it? Is it the thread over in Dev forum?
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I'm using CM7 Nightlys on day2day basis, on build #5 atm, got no problems with it at all.
Thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917271
Alltho i recomend reading up on the full proess around rooting and flashing recovery, radio and roms a few times to ensure your not getting a brick out of it

does 2.3 bring with it marvelous battery life improvements?

I did all the nececssary and now I am succesfully running slightly modded cyanogen7 daily #5. Very stable actually no problems at all so far other than the Microbes live wall paper freezing and needing a reload

jeRrRKKKK said:
does 2.3 bring with it marvelous battery life improvements?
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No
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[reguest] sense 3.0

any possibilty the sense 3.0 lockscreen and maybe other widgets/apps wil be ported to the htc hero touch g2?

stroobach said:
any possibilty the sense 3.0 lockscreen and maybe other widgets/apps wil be ported to the htc hero touch g2?
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nice idea..

i saw a review.. and the lockscreen is so freaking brilliant ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjCI9CFp6ew&feature=related

we allready have that lockscreen on SalsaSense-1.3 Beta

Ciprilik said:
we allready have that lockscreen on SalsaSense-1.3 Beta
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not completly.. the 3.0 has live wallpaper thingy and weather service on there lockscreen.. thats what i ment for the htc hero

Umm.. It's really unlikely, we might be able to get some apps but I doubt it. Sense 3.0 OS very heavy on the CPU, I'll look into it though when I have the time.
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Won't the libs and res be a bit awkward as well?

NO CHANCE
Guys if you want Sense 3.0 buy a new phone. The OS is to heavy for the little hero to run on. For the moment even Sense 2.1 runs like hell on the hero, imagine 3.0. If you guys wanna give a help with sense 2.1 find a way to reduce the number of home screens from 7 to 3 .

I'm guessing that you can do that under Sense, 'stefpaul'

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Won't the libs and res be a bit awkward as well?
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Yeah and I think it has those .m10 files which need de-compiling.

1ceb0x said:
I'm guessing that you can do that under Sense, 'stefpaul'
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Don't know how to do that... If you find a way tell us

Apktool Rosie.apk and edit a file in there, not sure which.
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stefpaul said:
Guys if you want Sense 3.0 buy a new phone. The OS is to heavy for the little hero to run on. For the moment even Sense 2.1 runs like hell on the hero, imagine 3.0. If you guys wanna give a help with sense 2.1 find a way to reduce the number of home screens from 7 to 3 .
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sense 2.1 is fine LoL - HTC released it for the hero after all, it's plenty fast. try elelinux's 2.1 sense rom, it's outstanding. no need to cut down any resources.
but sense 2.2 and 2.3 are not running all that well - 2.3 just is barely fast enough when overclocked and still lags at times and certainly runs out of memory all the time on the hero. but it's at least usable if you're careful how you set it up.
3.0 ain't gonna happen. and honestly, 2.3 sense really ain't gonna happen either, not in a really smooth workable state. but I doubt that's jsut the fault of sense - AOSP and CM 2.3 roms also have huge memory requirements and big slowdowns and poor screen redraw speeds in some situations....

Wrong thread sorry. But I think this idea wouldn't be easy to implement.

Theres a brilliant facebook chat app with a great widget, I personally would love it if this could be ported. I wish i had the knowledge to at least try it myself

yes please port the facebook chat widget and more apps.

You know, Google is a great tool when you want to learn something. If you want stuff ported, why not try yourself?
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JieeHD said:
You know, Google is a great tool when you want to learn something. If you want stuff ported, why not try yourself?
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haha
<caveat>oh and by the way, in my previous post about sense versions I actually mean android versions containing sense, not the sense version numbers. Maybe the person I was replying to was listing sense version numbers, not android version numbers.... </caveat>

JieeHD said:
You know, Google is a great tool when you want to learn something. If you want stuff ported, why not try yourself?
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You know, I might just try that

dkelley said:
sense 2.1 is fine LoL - HTC released it for the hero after all, it's plenty fast. try elelinux's 2.1 sense rom, it's outstanding. no need to cut down any resources.
but sense 2.2 and 2.3 are not running all that well - 2.3 just is barely fast enough when overclocked and still lags at times and certainly runs out of memory all the time on the hero. but it's at least usable if you're careful how you set it up.
3.0 ain't gonna happen. and honestly, 2.3 sense really ain't gonna happen either, not in a really smooth workable state. but I doubt that's jsut the fault of sense - AOSP and CM 2.3 roms also have huge memory requirements and big slowdowns and poor screen redraw speeds in some situations....
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Read my post again...
Sense 2.1 is android 2.3.3; Sense 3.0 is android 2.3.3 or 2.3.4
Elelinux has a 1.5 Sense in a 2.1 version of android

HTC Desire - Leedroid must go? :P

Hallo!
Im using a HTC Desire Brown (AMOLED)... Software is Leedroid 2.2F!
Now i want to completely erase everything and flash a new Rom.. i have a few questions:
- Which Rom should i use? Is ICS (4.0) fast or should i only use 2.3.3 or something like this for my device?
- What should i do with it? Just Flash the new rom via update?
Thanks!

There is a section for the question, and here you are in the developement section...

i'd re-post in q&a section!!!!!!
(prepare for the onslaught!!!!)

Thanks for a completely useless post in the wrong place.
Please use Search function and post questions in the Q&A Forum.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

Damn these mods are quick!

thanks for the move... wanted to post there but was searching through the roms..
dont shoot me!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
this is a pretty damn good catalogue for roms

Jeah, but this is the problem...
U]TINY-ICS-------------------------------------->[v3.9/4th/February/2012]
Sandvold's ICS BETA-------------------------------------->[0.5.1/30th/March/2012]
U]AOKP for Bravo-------------------------------------->[[BETA5]27th/March/2012[/B]]
[N][]Texas ICS ASOP By Evervolv-------------------------------------->[31st/December//Development Discontinued]
[]BCM ICS 4.0.3 CM9-------------------------------------->[RC3.1U/3rd/April/2012]
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which should i take? Will it run smooth on my phone?

i would use the one by Sandvold, seems stable enough

Sandvold's ROM is still in beta. You can use, but you'll find it pretty buggy...like any ICS ROM on Desire.
Look for something else like InsertCoin or one of the Runny ROMs.
And thanks for not bothering to read the other 50 "which ROM is best for me?" threads. They were all pointless and written by people that can't read and have no sense of adventure to try things for themselves and maybe learn a thing or two.
O...wait...

And everyone complained instead of answering the guy.
If you want speed, I'd say you should stick with most of the Gingerbread ASOP roms. Nowadays they are pretty much stable.
If you want beauty, you could try the sense roms, but with those I'd read the comment section to see what everyone thinks. Some make your phone a very pretty bloated mess that drags itself... Others run quite well.
Above all, make sure you read the instructions on all of them, some require specific things in order to run and I'm sure you don't want to ruin your phone.

My opinion:
Best AOSP: CM, but others say other gingervillain
Best Sense: Insertcoin
Best Sense 3.5: runnymede aio (very stable a fast, lagfree, but awfull battery drain)
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My 2 cents;
Best ASOP- CM7x Stable. Not a lot of options though.
Best Sense 3.5 RSK ver7.0 Good choice of kernels on install.

Now im totally confused
I want a stable, fast Rom for my HTC. Doesnt need much functions additionally cause its a present for my mother
Perhaps Ginger might be the best.
You thought of this "Insertcoin"?
[N]InsertCoin CM7/A2SD+ STABLE------------------------->[1.1.4/15th/September/2011/Development Discontinued]
But it is marked with a N? Should i use it anyway?
Ok, lets do it this way: You know what I want, i want a smooth, nice phone with normal functions. Now tell me which rom i should use and im happy
Thx a lot!

I've been using ICS Sandvold for a while and to be honest most things are working and I've found it just as fast as the Leedroid ROM I was on before.

errandum said:
And everyone complained instead of answering the guy.
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O, really??
777ace said:
Sandvold's ROM is still in beta. You can use, but you'll find it pretty buggy...like any ICS ROM on Desire.
Look for something else like InsertCoin or one of the Runny ROMs.
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Looks like an answer to me...maybe you read something else??

machin E said:
Ok, lets do it this way: You know what I want, i want a smooth, nice phone with normal functions. Now tell me which rom i should use and im happy
Thx a lot!
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Go back to stock. Smooth, Nice, Normal, Bug Free.
If you don't want to sacrifice one of these, flash a rom suggested by others.

machin E said:
Ok, lets do it this way: You know what I want, i want a smooth, nice phone with normal functions. Now tell me which rom i should use and im happy
Thx a lot!
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iPhone??
(10 clams)

I moved from leedroid over to rsk v6 which is a sense 3.5 rom and i never regretted it.

If your mother is no tech nerd, use the RUU. No root => less chance to mess up things. Don't flash any of the advanced stuff, she won't need it.
If she wants the latest stuff, teach her to flash herself, but tell her how to use the search function.