I'm wanting to root but the current method seems to advanced for me so I'm waiting on a simple root like there was for 2.1
Anyone heard if this will happen soon?
Sounds like a question to me, should be in the Q&A
agree with above poster.
Also if you take it 1 step at a time i am sure you can get through the new root process. it can seem overwhelming when you read the whole thing but it is not that bad at all. Most of it is doing copy and paste of commands into adb and flashing files on your phone. If you cant do these then i am not sure you will benefit from root.
As for simple root. i would be surprised if there wasnt one eventually but it could be a ways off.
I thought it would belong here since its about root. If it needs to be in the Q&A can a mod move it please
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I'm thinkig Unrevoked team. Should I do Unrevoked3 or forever?
Please any ideas? Custom recoveries or ROMs?
Sent from my HTC EVO
Sent from my HTC EVO
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Unreevoked 3 and forever are two totally different things. Foreverr is now obsolete with the release of 3.2.1. I wouldn't use unrevoked because then you have no idea what root is and how to use it. That's my two cents.
I will be using unrevoked 321 tomorrow to root my new evo. My first evo I rooted using simple root.
I disagree with dkdude36. I did it the hard way when the g1 dream first got rooted. The process is academically enlightening but a waste of time really.
Go for the easy root (unrevoked) unless u have a lot of time to spend learning.
I disagree with jdbiggles...
If you understand how to use a terminal (ADB) and know how to type without error, "the long way" doesn't take more than an hour to obtain root access to your evo!
My personal opinion is to get root with ADB. The things you learn will help you in the future.
Root with unrevoked, as it gives you one step nand unlock and everything. However, if you are not willing to learn ADB and the such, do not root your phone at all.
If this is the first time you have ever rooted an android or HTC device I would recommend doing the "long way", not because it is some stupid right of passage, or that I think you are a dumb n00b if you don't, but because I think that it will help you a lot in the future if you ever run into problems. You don't want to be learning about all this stuff with a bricked phone.
My first experience with rooting / custom roms / adb was with a G1, and then with a Nexus one. This time around, I simply used unrevoked, but that is because I already understand how the process works, and just want to get it done. It is kinda like math class, they make you write it out with pencil and paper, and then only way later can you use a calculator, because if you never did it long form, you would have no idea if the calculator was right or wrong, or any clue of where you made a wrong calculation.
If you run into any problems now or in the future with an android device, you will actually be able to at least sort/solve the simple problems, before needing to post here and wait for an answer, and hope someone posts step by step instructions.
Below are questions I posed in another thread. The root question is apropos to this thread. Can someone please provide me with some direction? I don't mind doing the "manual" way.
Thanks.
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1) Is there now a way to use pattern lock only? The Evo still shows the drag down HTC screen lock even when pattern lock is enabled. I have searched all over, have yet to find a solution.
I don't want to run a custom ROM. Will a root give me some ability to disable the drag-down lock?
I also have a Nexus 1. When I enabled the pattern, the regular screen lock is turned off. That is the behavior I'm looking for with the Evo.
2) Root: I want to root to enable all apps to SD, copy files, enable "reboot", etc. I do not care to run a custom ROM. I don't mind having to re-root after an update. I do not want to wipe my phone. I WANT to maintain the ability to receive future OTA updates.
On the N1 platform, there is an easy root method to allow for this. I get Superuser, can run root apps, but still receive OTA and no custom ROM. I'm looking for the same here.
For the Evo, which method whould support this?
I would very much appreciate any help.
Cheers.
Edit: I know what a generic NAND memory is. In this case, why is NAND protection and why does it need to be disabled? What is "S-On/S-Off". I looked through the guides/FAQ, but haven't been able to find anything. Thanks again.
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I have rooted my G1 before the long way. I understand how it works, just wanted to see if there were better teams to get it from? But I think this clear, unrevoked forever.3. 2.1 doesn't work anymore?
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First off, YES I have read a ton of posts about some of this, and YES I am a complete noob when it comes to rooting, and YES I am prepared to suffer the flames I may get for asking such inane things...that being said:
I have an EVO that I want to fully root. I use a mac (even read the mac root tutorial on another site...), and am now hearing about Unrevoked 3, and how wonderful/horrible it is. Here are my questions:
If I fully root with unrevoked 3, is there a way to go BACK to the original system that came with my phone? The reason I ask is so many threads hint at a "no turning back" kind of vibe.
Two: if I were to root in the classic sense (you know, the one that appears to a noob such as myself to performing brain surgery), would that allow me to go back to the original HTC system?
I have hacked my mac for years, I used to think I was fearless, but after reading so many posts on subjects like this, I have been terrified to even begin. So any of you Gurus out there that can offer any advice, I would be eternally grateful for it.
Thanks...!
1.- Yes, you can reenable S-ON, you'll need to flash a RUU (official EVO FW) afterwards, after this your phone will be back to stock.
2.- ??? You can root the current HTC FW Sense OR switch to another one if you wish. If you need to go back refer to #1
The RUU is the generally accepted method, however, there is an infamous error of the bootloader not responding to it.
The next method, and the one I used, is over in the Android Development section, probably buried under a couple pages. The thread title is "[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS" and the author is djR3Z.
I guess this account is too new, and the spam control settings are still in place, so I can't, or at least don't know how, to link to it.
Edit: Also can't edit a post unless I wait 5 minutes. Fun.
Thank you both very much. I will be rooting my phone asap, now.
You should be fine, it takes a lot of effort to really brick a phone. As long as you don't flash only stuff meant for the Evo and you don't interrupt it while anything is flashing you should be good. Unless you lose your account information, which most of the time doesn't get touched, it's pretty simple to return it to stock.
Also, if you have a new phone that says it is hardware version 004 Unrevoked 3 wont work for you. You'll need to follow the instruction found here.
[Extremely Nooby Questions Below]
So, I looked through the forums and didn't find anything that applied to the G2, or told me what I needed to know, so I need some help. This is my first Android
device and I like it so far.
My first question is about the "VISIONary" App. I installed this about a week ago and along with it I installed "Titanium Backup", "Shoot Me", and "SuperUser" just showed up somehow. I've been seeing many people say that "VISIONary" isn't too reliable. So, if I want to try out, the RAGE version of the temp/permaroot do I need to uninstall all of these apps? Or Just Visionary?
Also, to uninstall visionary, so I need to press the "UnRoot" button, and then uninstall, or can I just uninstall.
I also thought that, "adb" was the same thing as rooting. According to the Wiki , they aren't. So I need to do both to successfully root the G2?
Is "OverClocking" a completely different thing too?
What do I have to look out for while trying to root my phone? Any precautions to not brick my phone.
Also, I found a really good youtube turorial - /watch?v=zdmtkHkrgLE - to Root, a Droid, are these the same instructions to rooting a G2?
Thanks in advance. Oh and by the way, I didn't know whether to put this in development, (Since it was about Rooting), Or Q&A, since it had questions in it.
If I need to move it, please tell me.
I'm not trying to be mean but these questions have been answered many many times before.
You need to read and read and read some some.
I would suggest you check the wiki and look in the dev forum. There is plenty of info you have to look for it.
Follow the directions for your specific device only
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CarlosReynoso said:
[Extremely Nooby Questions Below]
So, I looked through the forums and didn't find anything that applied to the G2, or told me what I needed to know, so I need some help. This is my first Android
device and I like it so far.
My first question is about the "VISIONary" App. I installed this about a week ago and along with it I installed "Titanium Backup", "Shoot Me", and "SuperUser" just showed up somehow. I've been seeing many people say that "VISIONary" isn't too reliable. So, if I want to try out, the RAGE version of the temp/permaroot do I need to uninstall all of these apps? Or Just Visionary?
Also, to uninstall visionary, so I need to press the "UnRoot" button, and then uninstall, or can I just uninstall.
I also thought that, "adb" was the same thing as rooting. According to the Wiki , they aren't. So I need to do both to successfully root the G2?
Is "OverClocking" a completely different thing too?
What do I have to look out for while trying to root my phone? Any precautions to not brick my phone.
Also, I found a really good youtube turorial - /watch?v=zdmtkHkrgLE - to Root, a Droid, are these the same instructions to rooting a G2?
Thanks in advance. Oh and by the way, I didn't know whether to put this in development, (Since it was about Rooting), Or Q&A, since it had questions in it.
If I need to move it, please tell me.
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I'm no expert myself, just an average user who depends on the work of this awesome community to learn a little bit more about how these things work, so take whatever I say with a grain of salt.
I think all that matters for rooting purposes is removing VISIONary as the wiki states. As for how exactly to do this, not sure since I've never used it myself. Since it's just a temp root anyways, I'm pretty sure if you uninstall it and reboot at any time, it will be unrooted anyways. Titanium Backup will not even work without root, so you might as well remove it too (although not sure if you have to). I'm not sure what Shoot Me is. If you're in doubt, removing it before you root and reinstalling might help, but I doubt it's necessary.
The rooting instructions for the G2 are very specific. Do NOT use the same instructions for the Droid from that youtube video. I'd only recommend following instructions specific for the G2 you find on this site. This right here is definitely the best way I know to do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
I'd had some experience playing around with rooting my G1, but I never needed to deal with adb and was also initially confused. It's basically a shell that you can use to communicate with your phone when its plugged in via usb to your pc, using a command prompt or terminal or something. The instructions for setting it up aren't 100% clear from the wiki, but this guide was amazingly helpful in learning how to set it up in Windows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
Once you have that running, following the recommended rooting method from the wiki (rage/gfree) is seriously a breeze. Just follow it carefully and you won't brick your phone. The devs have really simplified the process for us in a short period of time.
This was also a really helpful FAQ that pretty much answered all my initial questions when it came to rooting, if you read through all of this carefully, you'll be able to figure it out pretty quickly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
Also, if you plan on installing a custom rom like cyanogenmod (highly recommended), you may want to back up your copy of swype cuz you'll lose the swype keyboard when you do it. Here are some good instructions on how to keep that:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/10225-how-to-keep-swype/
Overclocking is a completely different game. Once rooted, you can use an app like SetCPU to speed up the clock speed on your phone's processor (stock is 800 MHz). I've seen some people able to achieve speeds of 1.9 GHz or so, but what's more common is around 1.4 GHz if i'm not mistaken. Obviously, for the increased, performance, you'll take a hit in battery life and such, you probably dont want to push your phone's cpu too far if its not necessary. Rooting gives you the option though.
Lastly, if you want to unroot, there are more complicated methods posted if you use the older rooting method which is currently not recommended. For this method, you can basically follow the instructions in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10349347&postcount=81
from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835971
The PC10IMG.zip can be found in the original post of that thread. The instructions for turning S-on via gfree are also found in the wiki.
I know that's a lot, but hopefully it will answer a lot of your questions.
Small corection to the post up. Am not expert but I just did.
Set cpu will allow U slow down to 245 Your cpu or go 806. To go more then stock speed U have to flash new kernel and this metod is permanent overclock with will keep settings after reboot phone. Second metod is easy way using scripts. U can find scripts on xda. This will give U 1400.
Don't forget to setup profiles on SetCpu with save U Battery
Greetings
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Sorry about the double post. i first posted this in the Q&A.....
So i am a iphone user moved to android. im trying to root my phone and just cannot seem to get it running.
I have download simple root .1
I click setp1, it does its thing, goes to the skating guys and i do what it says.
Next i do step 2, same thing. skating guys, i do what it says.
now when i click step 3 the phone reboots and on my phone i get a phone with a read ! and triangle over it. nothing happens after that......
reboot the phone nothing seems changed.... what am i doing wrong?
anyone have a more complete "walk through"?
Also, i am a little confused. some people are saying to put "roms" onto the phone. are the roms like the OS? how do i wipe the phone and put a new rom on?
i am looking to get 2.3 onto my phone and get free wifi hotspot tethering.
i am running windows 7 ult. 64.
also, any links where i can get apps that only rooted phones can get?
any help would be great. sorry for the noob questions
Root using Unrevoked. It is the easiest method by far. Once you have root and s-off, you can worry about flashing custom roms. I'm not sure what you mean by "simple root .1" so you may want to post a link to what you tried so we know where you stand.
Also, it'd be easier to help if you provide your phone info as far as which hardware version, what software is on it now, which hboot, etc. If this is all new to you, then read some more and get a better understanding of this before you mess up your phone.
Can you boot your phone normally or is it stuck somewhere?
Simple root it outdated, you can check out the following thread for info on how to root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
First of all I would like to say this this is not the usual "How do i root?" question. I'm actually not looking for a HOWTO, but more for a detailed explanation about the process. I also wasn't sure if this thread should be posted in the developers or the general forums, so please move it to the general forum I you think it should be posted there.
I have an HTC Desire HD device, and I have seen countless tutorials about rooting, changing ROMs and changing other components which I actually don't know.
The problems with these tutorials:
1. They don't really explain what they are asking you to do. This actually may be convenient for most users, but I'm the kind of person that won't run any commands on his phone without actually realizing what they do.
2. These tutorials don't explain what can I do if something messes up.
I'm a programmer and I'm very familiar with Linux systems, but I am relatively new to Android. So after reading all sorts of tutorials, here are my questions:
About rooting in general
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1. How is obtaining root access in Android systems different from obtaining one in Unix systems?
2. Once I obtain root access, does that mean that all my applications runs as the root user? If so, isn't that a security risk?
3. Android have a different permissions system for applications than the classic Unix permissions system, since each applications must specify what does it want to do to the phone (Make phone calls, read the phone book, etc...), what happens to this permissions system once I obtain root access? Can any application use this root access to compromise my phone?
4. Is rooting my phone considered "hacking", or is it something legitimate like obtaining root access in a regular Unix system? Do all these rooting tools actually use exploits in the Android system to obtain root access?
Some questions about the downgrading process
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I read that in order to obtain root access on new HTC desire HD devices, I first my downgrade the phone's firmware. The questions below are based on the tutorial in addictivetips (I can't post a link since this is my first message)
1. Do I still have to do that, or maybe there's a new rooting method that doesn't require downgrading?
2. Once I downgrade and obtain root access, can I upgrade my ROM back to the new official ROM with root access, or does that mean that now I can only install custom ROMs?
3. Does downgrading the phone means I expose it to old security vulnerabilities?
4. My phone is branded. The tutorial suggest to prepare a "gold-card" by overwriting some bytes on the SD card, but none of them explained what does it mean. I would like to technically realize what does a gold card mean, and what does overwriting these specific bytes in the SD card mean.
5. What are the meaning of the commands that I should type before rebooting my phone in recovery mode?
Some HTC specifc questions
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The rooting tutorial says that after rooting I should obtain S-OFF, again, without really explaining what does it mean. As far as I realize, this is an HTC specific security mechanism.
1. What is it there for? Is it actually there to make my phone safer or is it there just to prevent me from changing my ROM?
2. I realized that there is S-OFF and Eng S-OFF, and the latter means gaining "Complete control" on my phone. What can I do with this "Complete control" that I can't do with normal S-OFF?
Using different ROMs
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1. I saw that there are some custom ROMs with HTC Sense. How is that possible? Isn't HTC Sense a proprietary HTC piece of software?
2. When I decide to use a specific ROM, how do can I make sure I have the latest Android version? Do I get automatic updates like when using the stock ROM, or is it my responsibility to always check if there's a new version?
If something messes up
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1. How can I go back to the stock ROM if the downgrading/rooting process messes up?
2. What can I do if a custom ROM installation messes up? Can I go back to the downgraded ROM?
Thank you
Hey!
Here's a link that goes into detail about some of the things you asked about.
[REF] Ivo's Introductory Guide to this forum (READ ME FIRST)
Also, I think you would have been better off asking this in the Q&A section!
harrehk said:
Hey!
Here's a link that goes into detail about some of the things you asked about.
[REF] Ivo's Introductory Guide to this forum (READ ME FIRST)
Also, I think you would have been better off asking this in the Q&A section!
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Thank you, this answered some of my questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
No problem!
Sorry I wasn't a bigger help.
You could try checking the Android Development and Hacking for a few more non-HTC related answers!