[Q] Unrevoked 3 with Full nand Questions/Concerns - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First off, YES I have read a ton of posts about some of this, and YES I am a complete noob when it comes to rooting, and YES I am prepared to suffer the flames I may get for asking such inane things...that being said:
I have an EVO that I want to fully root. I use a mac (even read the mac root tutorial on another site...), and am now hearing about Unrevoked 3, and how wonderful/horrible it is. Here are my questions:
If I fully root with unrevoked 3, is there a way to go BACK to the original system that came with my phone? The reason I ask is so many threads hint at a "no turning back" kind of vibe.
Two: if I were to root in the classic sense (you know, the one that appears to a noob such as myself to performing brain surgery), would that allow me to go back to the original HTC system?
I have hacked my mac for years, I used to think I was fearless, but after reading so many posts on subjects like this, I have been terrified to even begin. So any of you Gurus out there that can offer any advice, I would be eternally grateful for it.
Thanks...!

1.- Yes, you can reenable S-ON, you'll need to flash a RUU (official EVO FW) afterwards, after this your phone will be back to stock.
2.- ??? You can root the current HTC FW Sense OR switch to another one if you wish. If you need to go back refer to #1

The RUU is the generally accepted method, however, there is an infamous error of the bootloader not responding to it.
The next method, and the one I used, is over in the Android Development section, probably buried under a couple pages. The thread title is "[GUIDE] How to Unroot the EVO in 2 STEPS" and the author is djR3Z.
I guess this account is too new, and the spam control settings are still in place, so I can't, or at least don't know how, to link to it.
Edit: Also can't edit a post unless I wait 5 minutes. Fun.

Thank you both very much. I will be rooting my phone asap, now.

You should be fine, it takes a lot of effort to really brick a phone. As long as you don't flash only stuff meant for the Evo and you don't interrupt it while anything is flashing you should be good. Unless you lose your account information, which most of the time doesn't get touched, it's pretty simple to return it to stock.
Also, if you have a new phone that says it is hardware version 004 Unrevoked 3 wont work for you. You'll need to follow the instruction found here.

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Questions about rooting an EVO

Let me first say I'm a noob to this whole rooting thing and I would like to get some more info on. I tried searching the forums for the answers, but I failed to find what I was looking for.
1) What is this nand people are talking about? RUU? ROM (what's the difference between sense and no sense)?
2) How do I backup my apps, etc before trying to root?
3) Which guide do I use? My Evo came with 2.1, but I did the stock update to Froyo.- I don't wanna end up with a 500 paperweight.
4) If I need to bring my phone in for service how do I return it to stock?
5) I know you can turn your phone into a free wifi hotspot after rooting, what are some other advantages to rooting?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
ok now let me remind you im not far ahead of you so let me tell you i would wait for a few more posts before taking what i have to say to heart, but i cant leave someone i may be able to help (even a little in need)....
1. the phrase "NAND" refers to the term nandroid backup, which is when you create a backup file. like a system restore point for windows, so when u start doing some different customizations or just try flashing some different roms assuming something goes wrong you will always be just one click away from doing a restore back to a fully functioning rom that you backedup previously. i believe the 2 main programs associated with this is amon_ra and clockwork.....
2. as far as backing up apps i just save the .apks on my pc and reinstall them once i reflash a new rom, but from what im reading you can use a program like titatnium backup, app brain...etc. but then again as far as personal experience goes...none here just what ive gathered from reading.
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
(personally ive rooted with this method and it was very simple just read through the steps before starting and follow them accordingly, dont be discouraged general computer knowledge is needed though) or atleast the ability to move about the computer)
4. returning your phone from the method discribed below is simple as it seems...but again have not done personally only from what ive read: you are rooted (assuming you've used the thread above) with unrevoked3 meaning you have s-off(in laymen terms: the position of the bootloader {ON or OFF} which checks images being flashed to make sure they are signed with the htc security signature),,,you just need to download the unrevoked s-ON file and use that to return the phones security settings and re-download an RUU(RomUpdateUtility) thats official from the htc site and ull be back to unrooted good old-fashion stock evo.
5. and as far as the wifi tethering goes just go to the market place and download a wifi tethering .apk, once rooted of course ....and run it from your evo to connect to your pc wirelessly
*this should help*
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/Wifi-tether-download-76020.html
and as far as why root, well because when you buy a phone i assume you wanted it to be YOUR phone and with rooting its all about flashing opensource/custom roms to your phone and other things such as kernels to customize the phone to your liking and you cant flash unsigned data to your phone without having su permission, meaning you need ROOT access....
-now again let me disclaimer myself i am also very very new to the whole android community and may be spewing lots of wrong info and am probably quite confused my self but i figure id risk making a fool of my self to help u in the off chance that what im saying makes any sense at all....but yea
If I can root a phone trippin on 28 triple cs you can do it
Boss dextromethorphan.....is no fun, and I dunt suggest rooting ur phone or opperating heavy machinery under the influence of triple c's....
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Who should I get my root from?

I'm thinkig Unrevoked team. Should I do Unrevoked3 or forever?
Please any ideas? Custom recoveries or ROMs?
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Unreevoked 3 and forever are two totally different things. Foreverr is now obsolete with the release of 3.2.1. I wouldn't use unrevoked because then you have no idea what root is and how to use it. That's my two cents.
I will be using unrevoked 321 tomorrow to root my new evo. My first evo I rooted using simple root.
I disagree with dkdude36. I did it the hard way when the g1 dream first got rooted. The process is academically enlightening but a waste of time really.
Go for the easy root (unrevoked) unless u have a lot of time to spend learning.
I disagree with jdbiggles...
If you understand how to use a terminal (ADB) and know how to type without error, "the long way" doesn't take more than an hour to obtain root access to your evo!
My personal opinion is to get root with ADB. The things you learn will help you in the future.
Root with unrevoked, as it gives you one step nand unlock and everything. However, if you are not willing to learn ADB and the such, do not root your phone at all.
If this is the first time you have ever rooted an android or HTC device I would recommend doing the "long way", not because it is some stupid right of passage, or that I think you are a dumb n00b if you don't, but because I think that it will help you a lot in the future if you ever run into problems. You don't want to be learning about all this stuff with a bricked phone.
My first experience with rooting / custom roms / adb was with a G1, and then with a Nexus one. This time around, I simply used unrevoked, but that is because I already understand how the process works, and just want to get it done. It is kinda like math class, they make you write it out with pencil and paper, and then only way later can you use a calculator, because if you never did it long form, you would have no idea if the calculator was right or wrong, or any clue of where you made a wrong calculation.
If you run into any problems now or in the future with an android device, you will actually be able to at least sort/solve the simple problems, before needing to post here and wait for an answer, and hope someone posts step by step instructions.
Below are questions I posed in another thread. The root question is apropos to this thread. Can someone please provide me with some direction? I don't mind doing the "manual" way.
Thanks.
snovvman said:
1) Is there now a way to use pattern lock only? The Evo still shows the drag down HTC screen lock even when pattern lock is enabled. I have searched all over, have yet to find a solution.
I don't want to run a custom ROM. Will a root give me some ability to disable the drag-down lock?
I also have a Nexus 1. When I enabled the pattern, the regular screen lock is turned off. That is the behavior I'm looking for with the Evo.
2) Root: I want to root to enable all apps to SD, copy files, enable "reboot", etc. I do not care to run a custom ROM. I don't mind having to re-root after an update. I do not want to wipe my phone. I WANT to maintain the ability to receive future OTA updates.
On the N1 platform, there is an easy root method to allow for this. I get Superuser, can run root apps, but still receive OTA and no custom ROM. I'm looking for the same here.
For the Evo, which method whould support this?
I would very much appreciate any help.
Cheers.
Edit: I know what a generic NAND memory is. In this case, why is NAND protection and why does it need to be disabled? What is "S-On/S-Off". I looked through the guides/FAQ, but haven't been able to find anything. Thanks again.
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I have rooted my G1 before the long way. I understand how it works, just wanted to see if there were better teams to get it from? But I think this clear, unrevoked forever.3. 2.1 doesn't work anymore?
Sent from my HTC EVO

[Q] Need help rooting evo. noob questions ><

Sorry about the double post. i first posted this in the Q&A.....
So i am a iphone user moved to android. im trying to root my phone and just cannot seem to get it running.
I have download simple root .1
I click setp1, it does its thing, goes to the skating guys and i do what it says.
Next i do step 2, same thing. skating guys, i do what it says.
now when i click step 3 the phone reboots and on my phone i get a phone with a read ! and triangle over it. nothing happens after that......
reboot the phone nothing seems changed.... what am i doing wrong?
anyone have a more complete "walk through"?
Also, i am a little confused. some people are saying to put "roms" onto the phone. are the roms like the OS? how do i wipe the phone and put a new rom on?
i am looking to get 2.3 onto my phone and get free wifi hotspot tethering.
i am running windows 7 ult. 64.
also, any links where i can get apps that only rooted phones can get?
any help would be great. sorry for the noob questions
Root using Unrevoked. It is the easiest method by far. Once you have root and s-off, you can worry about flashing custom roms. I'm not sure what you mean by "simple root .1" so you may want to post a link to what you tried so we know where you stand.
Also, it'd be easier to help if you provide your phone info as far as which hardware version, what software is on it now, which hboot, etc. If this is all new to you, then read some more and get a better understanding of this before you mess up your phone.
Can you boot your phone normally or is it stuck somewhere?
Simple root it outdated, you can check out the following thread for info on how to root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204

[Q] Help Root 2.37.861.8

Hi , i'm just bought a new HTC Desire HD to exchange for my old Iphone.
At first the performance and speed was good. but after I downloaded and used ADW instead of the stock theme,i also put for the Apps drawer at 4D so it look really good. Unfortunately, when i went through all my apps, it's really slow and lag (u can imaging as when u play an online game with slow INTERNET).
So I wanted to root it however i was going through all the threads in the HtC Desire hd forum and couldn't find any guide about rooting the 2.37.861.8.
Please let's me know if it can be rooted or not? and if it possible can u give me the link with detail how to root it and install Rom.
I'm a newbie so i'm sorry if my question annoy anyone.i'm learning right now
This is my phone information :
My Phone is branded by 3 in Australia
Android version
2.3.3
Htc Sense version
2.1
Baseband
12.54.60.25U_26.09.04.11_ M 2
Kernel version
2.6.35.10
htc-kernel and18-2 #1
Build number
2.37.861.8
Software number
2.37.861.8
Browser version
Webkit /533.1
Thanks guys
If you would have bothered to use the search funtion you would have found several threads, including this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233&page=7
Lucky guy
Bought brand new with 2.37, instead of higher.
Enjoy your new dhd
I did use the search function and also came across this thread but the Poster Said that : Please note that this method works for devices up to 2.37.762.2 ONLY!
And my software is 2.37.861.8
And as i mentioned i'm new so i dont know does this method also applicable on my phone.
JSLEnterprises said:
If you would have bothered to use the search funtion you would have found several threads, including this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233&page=7
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they tell you to put Q's in the Q&A forum.. then you do it, and you get **** for it. this isnt simple for everyone and there are different intricacies to all the firmware. if you dont want to answer a legit question, dont. but its amazing how smug this place is sometimes. give the guy a break, he just got the phone.
Try
Dont worry. Just try out the guides
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
it might work for you. If you really wanna root just go for it and post your results for other users benefit. If you can wait then wait till your version comes under the umbrella.
Cheers
Enjoy your new DHD
thanks for all the reply guys, really helpfull
i think i better wait until it come under umbrella since i'm not understand this Root things clearly.
SQ3.0dotJP said:
they tell you to put Q's in the Q&A forum.. then you do it, and you get **** for it. this isnt simple for everyone and there are different intricacies to all the firmware. if you dont want to answer a legit question, dont. but its amazing how smug this place is sometimes. give the guy a break, he just got the phone.
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I wasn’t giving ****. I was simply stating that proper use of the search function (with multiple stickies in each sub forum, and agreements when you sign up stating to use it prior to posting) should be followed.
When I was green and first got my android device, I searched and searched and read anything and everything relevant before making any post. Too many people on these and other forums are lazy and don’t put in the time to really learn about their devices before beginning to mess with them. At least half of the people in here shouldn’t even be rooting their phones as they're technically inept from being able to recover from a blunder.
I've read so many posts which shouldn’t even exist if diligent information gathering and processing was actually executed, polluting the forums so much that finding a piece of useful information by simply browsing through all the bullarky, is next to impossible. I personally instead now strictly use the search function when looking for information that I may require.
Also, on page 3 or 4 of that thread, even though the op says "to 2.37.762.2 ONLY" there's been reports confirming it works with his version as well.
I've been experimenting on finding a way to downgrade 2.43.
Once receiving my phone back from repair after a true Brick (where only viable recovery is through jtaging) I found my device was updated to 2.43.661.1 which is part of the unrootable category at this time. So even after not being able to work on my rom for 3 weeks, due to the device being in repair, I still can’t work on my rom because I can’t push apk's and files into system area's to which root access is necessary.
abhisahara said:
Dont worry. Just try out the guides
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
it might work for you. If you really wanna root just go for it and post your results for other users benefit. If you can wait then wait till your version comes under the umbrella.
Cheers
Enjoy your new DHD
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First url points to a method that does NOT work.
psneuter does not work, therefore the goldcard downgrade will not work.
Second url is what I posted as the first response.
@ Babycover
Before attempting to root, take the next few days to learn about things like the goldcard, RUU's, the Android SDK's, and basic linux commands (since android is simply a version of linux). Look at various tutorials on how to do things (but dont actually do them, just take note on similarities, and reocurring commands so if you were to do them you'd be comfortable executing them). Familiarize yourself with everything before experimenting.... makes recovering from a problem a lot easier than reading replies of people who think they know what they're talking about.
Things to note: Any RUU can be used once your device has radio S-off and use them rather than a PD98IMG.zip from your sd card. Your spash screen can only be changed if your device has ENG[ineering] S-off ('ENG' will take the place of 'SHIP' in the bootloader). Do not partition your sd card using CWM recovery; even though it supposedly has been fixed, it still may brick your phone (I personally dont believe you should have to partition an SD card ever!).
If the 2.37 method of the rooting doesnt take, you're in my boat with an unrootable device. You might as well see if you can update to the latest 2.5X build if your phone isnt carrier specific (using an ruu, and the device's data that cannot be synced with a google account or sense will be gone, but atleast you'll have the latest build)
If you do manage to Downgrade, dont use the post-downgrade rooting method, rather, follow my steps to root, radio s-off and eng s-off
Its a collection of what works, simplified for use without extras.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0
Enjoy your new phone.
@jsl softbank 237. 2. Has bwwn kicking my ass. And im dont even feel like posting my issues because of responses like yours. I just ask everyone to read their post like a noob. 'Search *****' isnt a very inviting response to what i feel is a pretty good forum. Also, english is a second language for many. What is simple to you isnt so simple for many
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[Q] Newb needs help/explanation about how to root my MT3GS 2.2.1

ok, ok put the stones down....DOWN. yes Im a newb, but im not an idiot. I have spent the last hour tonight (as well as searching a few times over the last 2 weeks) searching, not just this site, for a way to Root my MT3GS. and apparently its currently impossible.
Yes I am aware of these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181214
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108316
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189485
however none of these fully explains anything and after reading all the replies in these threads it seems that theres conflicting comments, which are confusing me to no end. so Basically I have 3 questions:
Can I root my MT3GS what is currently running the OTA push of 2.2.1?
IS there a way to get S-Off working on it?
Can I Put any new Rom(could very well be using hte wrong word, if so it should be easy to understand what i mean) on the phone so that I can remove all unwanted stock apps, install any marketplace app I had before, and (drum roll please) get NETFLIX to work on my phone?
thank you in advance to anyone who can help me. but please, please please don't just refer me to another thread, because odds are A) I have read it and it didn't explain it well enough for me to understand and feel comfortable doing it, or B) it didn't provide the needed programs or only discussed part of my question and didn't seem to fit up with other threads which covered the other areas.
in short:
1- yes, you can root it. i've done it 3 times on my phone
2- as far as now, no, unless the new method posted today actually reverts the hboot
3- yes, although there might still be some apps that are on the rom that you do not want.
hey txdeathray, thanks for your reply. I found eckres original post on a different site that was much more elaborate, but from what i read still doesnt specify the S-off problem. last post: forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/28205-stuck-on-step-8-rooting/
SO basically, if I CANT get s-off working, then even if I put cm7 or whatever other version i find, as soon as I reboot my phone, it will undo everything I did and ill be stuck with 2.2.1 again.
Have you tried the unlockr.com way to do it? Their page has a vid following you thru the process.. id post the link but im mobile at the moment
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Last I looked a couple days ago there was no way working method on unlockr. heck last week the only method involved goldcards, and my firned who rooted his droid refused to touch it.
JXM003 said:
hey txdeathray, thanks for your reply. I found eckres original post on a different site that was much more elaborate, but from what i read still doesnt specify the S-off problem. last post: forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/28205-stuck-on-step-8-rooting/
SO basically, if I CANT get s-off working, then even if I put cm7 or whatever other version i find, as soon as I reboot my phone, it will undo everything I did and ill be stuck with 2.2.1 again.
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No. You don't need S-OFF to keep a new ROM. And you won't lose root with S-ON.
To my understanding, you only need S-OFF if you want to be able to manage some things without having to reboot your phone into recovery, or to get to some system files you otherwise can't with S-ON.
I have not seen the need for S-OFF for my personal use of my phone.

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