Exchange ActiveSync - Updating Read Messages on the Server - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I'm syncing Outlook to a 2007 Exchange Server over my data connection. Activesync is set to deliver messages as they arrive. Messages arrive on the phone as they arrive into the Exchange account. So far, so good.
However, when I read the message on the phone, it takes a while for the "read" status to get updated to the server. Maybe an hour or so. It seems to vary. Similarly, if a message is moved on the server (with a server side rule or spam filtering, for example) it also takes a while to update on the phone. Neither is instantaneous like new message delivery is.
If I manually tell Activesync to sync the phone, everything gets updated immediately. It's almost as if message delivery is instantaneous, but other things like sending a read status to the server, or recognizing that a message has been moved on the server take some time.
Is there any way to get these secondary actions (sending a read status to the server, or recognizing that a message has been moved on the server) to happen much more quickly, more or less in real time?
Thanks!

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Push e-mail.

Hi,
Firstly, this is all new to me so please be gentle!
I have read varies threads about "push email" on here and feel totally confussed about the whole thing.......so felt it was best to explain my "vision" of what I want and find out from one of you guy's if its remotely possible or just stupid....so here goes.
I would like my Orbit/e-mail account set up in a way that would allow the following.
e-mail would be "pushed" to me via outlook on my Xda.
My home/work PC would not be any part of this process.
When e-mail is "pushed" to me it would only show the header and give me the choice of viewing the attachment at a later stage if i wish. This would reduce potential data cost.
I don't mind if it means changing my email address (currently with UKonline).
My work colleagues could send mail to my "PDA email addess" and it would then be "pushed" automatically to my PDA without me doing anything.
The process would be free/cheap.
.........if this is possible would someone PLEASE give me step by step instructions of the process and specific software that I should use.
Many thanks in anticipation
Rob.
I thought I'd answer this as I've tried a few methods.
basically, here's what I did,
I got an application from a company called qore. This is a piece of software that triggers a send/receive on receipt of a certain text message.
I'm with T-Mobile, so they have a system that sends you a text message when an email is sent to <your number>@t-mobile.uk.net. If I remember correctly you get the senders details and some of the message.
So, I set my outlook at home to automatically forward all my emails to <number>@t-mobile.uk.net.
The mail application from qore, intercepts the text message I get from T-mobile (there's an option where you tell it to look out for certain characters in the text message) and then triggers your unit to do a send/receive (over GPRS) and retrieve your email.
All this is done without your knowledge. i.e. you don't get an indication of the text message, you just get an indication that your mail has been received (if you have set up notification of this).
All other text messages are received as normal. so the qore program only filters out the specific one you tell it to.
sadly, when I tried it, it was a little hard to set-up as it kept intercepting random messages. maybe they have improved on it by now.
I think what you need is an account here:
http://live.mail2web.com/
basically you can point your "pda email" account to an address with mail2web and it should get pushed to your pda
I tried it out and it worked, but I dont really need it so haven't used it since. It does mean you will use some extra GPRS as I believe it maintains a "heartbeat" connection ( I think that was how someone explained it !!)
Hays
Push Email
1. Register a Hotmail account and use the included Microsoft Pocket MSN software it works!
2. Register an account with http://www.consilient.com it's free and allows push mail from many services...
Hope this helps..

POP e-mail behaviour

I have a rogers s621 with WM6. I am getting different behaviour when I download messages from 2 different POP accounts.
On the first POP account, when I download a message (2k limit set) and then open the message and download the rest of it the original message is retained on the server. This is what I want to happen.
When I do the same thing on the 2nd POP account the message is not retained on the server.
The settings for the 2 pop accounts are the same except they have different e-mail addresses and point to different pop and smtp servers.
There is a setting to leave messages on the server, but that is only when deleting messages and I did not delete the message on the 2nd POP account. Is there another "leave message on the server" setting that controls deletion as a result of downloading that I am missing?
Any help would be appreciated.
If the settings are the same then I would assume that it is server configuration that is causing the problem.
POP3 mailboxes should behave as in the first example, messages should not be deleted until the full message has been retrieved, and then only deleted if an option to leave messages on the server is not checked.
It looks like the second server is assuming the entire message is getting downloaded when the client accesses messages and then deletes them.
Depending on who the e-mail provider is, you could talk to them but not sure how much luck you would get!
You might also consider switching to IMAP if the provider offers it, as it is far more intelligent in handling these sort of situations, as it is assumed that mail remains on the server at all times unless expressly deleted by a client.
Solved.
You were right. The issue was with my provider. They don't allow leaving messages on the server for POP accounts.
The solution to get it work the way I want is to have it as a POP account on my PC, and an IMAP account on my S621. That way when I'm on my PC the messages get downloaded and removed from the server, and when I'm out I can check them on the S621 and they will stay on the server so I can get them again the next time I'm on the PC.

IMAP email inconsistencies

My ISP's mail server is an IMAP server. I have entered all of the info correctly and I am usually able to connect and receive and send email without issue. However I am seeing a few consistencies:
1) Occasionally it won't be able to send and/ or receive email. I do get an error about network coverage, settings, etc. but I have changed nothing from the last time I used it. Often, shutting down the phone and removing the battery for ten minutes will resolve the issue. Sometimes, it seems that it works thru WiFi but not through T-MO phone service, other times it's exactly reversed (maybe switching between the two is the problem?). It seems that I D/L'd a patch or found some system setting change for this problem on XDA-dev for my old silverface Dash (I now have a Dash 3G), but I can't find it anymore despite two hours spent searching the forums.
2) None of my self-created subfolders on the IMAP server are D/L'd to my Dash. Additionally, email deletes are not transferred either direction. Email deleted on the phone stays on the server and vice-versa. (Yes, of course I checked the "Remove from server " check-box)
Any help is appreciated!
-GoJ

Default Email app download the same (POP3) email over and over

Hello,
Randomly and habitually in the middle of the night, my S3 download the same message from the POP3 server again and again.
Example : I'll open the message, mark as read, and then next night the app checks for new e-mail, the message is back again as if I'd never opened it in the first place.I know, i can choose the option delete from server, but I dont want this. My desktop is in charge to delete from the server, not my phone or my tablet
Is it possible for my S3 to act like the iPhone mail app. In others words, download the mail only one time and leave a copy on the server.
Thank for your help....
Same problem here - Tried K9 but it just wasnt for me. Not seeing much else out there
Why does anyone even use POP these days? It's a terrible protocol for managing your email. I'm in the email business and POP users always seem to have issues with email clients and/or losing emails. Use IMAP or switch to hosted exchange

[Q] Why does my mail app mark emails as read on server when checking?

I'm not sure if this is a HTC Wildifre S or an Android Gingerbread related issue and looking through the web I did'n find any solution (to be fair I didn't find other people having the same issue), but this is my problem:
I configured my HTC built-in email app in order to check my email account. I set the incoming mail protocol as POP3. Now, every time my email account gets checked on my phone, nearly all (but strangely NOT ALL) the downloaded emails are authomatically marked as read on the server, so if I look afterwards at my emails on the webmail or on my pc (Thunderbird set wit IMAP protocol) they look to be read, even though I never opened them! Only on my phone unread emails are correctly marked as unread, as the marking seems to happen after the downloading process and thus doesn't affect the already downloaded emails.
This is of course a problem, as I risk to miss unread emails that don't appear to be unread on my pc even though they actually ARE unread.
Did anybody experience the same issue?
Any suggestion?
Thank you
I just discovered your question with no answers last night when scrolling through on my phone before falling asleep so:
This primarily has to do with the difference between web email and client email. Keep in mind that, as always, terms can mean different things depending on the content in which they are used. So web mail, typically uses IMAP as it's protocol and you can read mail on the email server from a variety of devices. When a device (computer, tablet, phone) reads it, the mail is marked as read on the server and when any other device checks for mail it will find it as read. An email client typically uses POP (although some can use IMAP also) and will download mail to the client and delete it from the server; however, often the option to leave it on the server can be selected, but it might still be marked as read because it is also downloaded.
A good example would be the aol desktop program that one would install on their computer, going back to dial-up. You could set it to dial in at intervals and download new mail to the desktop, then disconnect from the aol server. If you read that same mail downloaded to another computer that also had the aol desktop program installed, the first computer would still show it unread and the second would show you read it.
It's kind of the same with current, always connected devices, and to add a layer of confusion (or mystery?) consider how you have the program, on a particular device you're using, set to check mail. If it checks and says you have mail, but you don't check it on that first device but read it on a second device it will still show unread on the first device until it checks the server, for example every hour or whatever time interval you have set. If you have it set to check every hour AND on opening then you might see it flash unread and then show read on that first device (having read it on the second device). Throw in something like your phone's email program checking mutliple sources, aol, gmail, etc. against the above scenarios and it can be hard to keep it all straight...oh yeah, throw in Thunderbird on the same device and...good luck
Thank you MiCeltic. It's probably as you say. Still, I already used to check my emails with different web clients on different devices, some set with POP and some with IMAP protocol, and it never happened to me that a POP-using web client marks all emails as "read" on the server simply by checking them. But the default email client on my android phone probably brehaves like this, as you say. My solution was, in the end, to set all my email clients with IMAP protocol: at least every email is now marked as read (on all devices) only if I actually READ it.
Bye
Mic

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