Hi,
Firstly, this is all new to me so please be gentle!
I have read varies threads about "push email" on here and feel totally confussed about the whole thing.......so felt it was best to explain my "vision" of what I want and find out from one of you guy's if its remotely possible or just stupid....so here goes.
I would like my Orbit/e-mail account set up in a way that would allow the following.
e-mail would be "pushed" to me via outlook on my Xda.
My home/work PC would not be any part of this process.
When e-mail is "pushed" to me it would only show the header and give me the choice of viewing the attachment at a later stage if i wish. This would reduce potential data cost.
I don't mind if it means changing my email address (currently with UKonline).
My work colleagues could send mail to my "PDA email addess" and it would then be "pushed" automatically to my PDA without me doing anything.
The process would be free/cheap.
.........if this is possible would someone PLEASE give me step by step instructions of the process and specific software that I should use.
Many thanks in anticipation
Rob.
I thought I'd answer this as I've tried a few methods.
basically, here's what I did,
I got an application from a company called qore. This is a piece of software that triggers a send/receive on receipt of a certain text message.
I'm with T-Mobile, so they have a system that sends you a text message when an email is sent to <your number>@t-mobile.uk.net. If I remember correctly you get the senders details and some of the message.
So, I set my outlook at home to automatically forward all my emails to <number>@t-mobile.uk.net.
The mail application from qore, intercepts the text message I get from T-mobile (there's an option where you tell it to look out for certain characters in the text message) and then triggers your unit to do a send/receive (over GPRS) and retrieve your email.
All this is done without your knowledge. i.e. you don't get an indication of the text message, you just get an indication that your mail has been received (if you have set up notification of this).
All other text messages are received as normal. so the qore program only filters out the specific one you tell it to.
sadly, when I tried it, it was a little hard to set-up as it kept intercepting random messages. maybe they have improved on it by now.
I think what you need is an account here:
http://live.mail2web.com/
basically you can point your "pda email" account to an address with mail2web and it should get pushed to your pda
I tried it out and it worked, but I dont really need it so haven't used it since. It does mean you will use some extra GPRS as I believe it maintains a "heartbeat" connection ( I think that was how someone explained it !!)
Hays
Push Email
1. Register a Hotmail account and use the included Microsoft Pocket MSN software it works!
2. Register an account with http://www.consilient.com it's free and allows push mail from many services...
Hope this helps..
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any of you guys come across this app.. it's for getting push e-mail without an ms exchange server.
question: has anyone got a way round applying this to hotmail? i think the trick is to get outlook to accept hotmail and then use this app.
also, i'm running on vista so this isn't yet compatible.. anyone aware of a similar app - i can use with my hotmail - that'll do the trick?
thanks guys..
Free push email
Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
palmbluetooth said:
Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
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But this doesn't support Hotmail does it?
I'm looking for a Hotmail solution... anyone?
Just forward you emails from hotmail to mail2web ..
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Just forward you emails from hotmail to mail2web ..
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sorry to be a pain... don't think i can forward my hotmail messages... can i?
are you able to explain how to do this and any implications?
cheers...
I have had a quick look at this app and it seems like a good thing to me - bearing in mind I've seen other push email accounts charging £15 a month.
I have a couple of questions though, someone here might know the answer.
AIUI the email is delivered over GPRS so you need to be connected all the time.
so the first question is what sort of data gets transferred if you are connected all the time but not actually downloading anything? for example if you look at your broadband connection, even when you are not using it, small amounts of data are sent/received periodically. over the course of the day this could quite easily add up!!
next question is, although I have an O2 Orbit, I'm not actually on O2. I have a temporary T-Mobile sim card while I wait to start my new job and they give me my new phone (I'll just take the sim out and put it in my orbit). I have only seen an option to set up the configuration for O2. Can the GPRS settings for other networks be entered manually? or will I have to remove all the O2 settings that are installed after a hard reset to enable me to do this? (not something I really want to do)
In answer to the other comments about mail2web and mail2wap. I have been using this site for years and years, the only thing is you have to connect to the web and then check your mail....you might not have any but you still have to pay to connect and transfer data. Hence the push email is a better idea as you KNOW you have mail as opposed to checking in case you MIGHT have some with mail2web.
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Hello, I've been using mail2web.com it's free and you don't have yo use outlook.
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My understanding is that the free Mail2Web Live product uses the older Always Up To Date technology. i.e. it sends you a silent text message when new email arrives which triggers Pocket Outlook to connect by POP or IMAP and get your mail.
That is not a push mail product. It is a triggered pull. Not bad for free, but one should be clear it does not include Direct Push... unless something has recently changed (please feel free to correct me)
Mail2Web also offer Personal Exchange, a paid hosted exchange service which has Direct Push. I personally did not like their service as I was unhappy with the Junk mail filtering they use, but their most basic hosted exchange service with Direct Push is extremely cheap... though not free.
so, let me just make sure that I understand this correctly....
the mail2web live product whilst not being a true push service does advise me that I have received an email by sending a silent SMS which tells my device to connect to the net and sync with the mail2web server to get my emails yes? (assuming I am somewhere where I have wifi or internet access)
that doesn't sound too bad....as basically what I am after is something that tells me I have an email when it arrives in my inbox. All I need is a text message telling me who it's from and the subject. That way I can decide whether I want to connect to the net and pick up the email or whether it's something that can wait.
is there anyone who offers a service like that? (I think hotmail do but I don't want to use hotmail)
many thanks
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so, let me just make sure that I understand this correctly....
the mail2web live product whilst not being a true push service does advise me that I have received an email by sending a silent SMS which tells my device to connect to the net and sync with the mail2web server to get my emails yes?
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Sorry to the Mods if this is getting off-topic (realize this is an Artemis - Emoze thread... please move if appropriate!)
Goota be honest, it is a few months since I used any Mail2Web service so I can only report on my past experience. I recall they had fairly responsive/informative support by email and recommend you ask them directly.
I think Always Up To Date (AUTD) doesn't work quite the way you describe... not that it is bad at all, and it may well do what you need. Anyway, how it works is you would be installing a little application on your device which can recognize a special hidden/silent text message from the Exchange Server (you cannot see or read this message). It just tells you device that there is new email, that is all, Then your device switches on (screen goes on, comes out of suspend) and does a an email logon as if you had opened the relevant Pocket Outlook email account and hit the send/receive choice. It then logs on from scratch and retrieves your email (just headers or everything will based on your settings).
The good is this is may be free and can work on a pre-WM5 device. The downside is that it is much slower than true Direct Push and uses more battery. With Direct Push a handshake is already established with the Exchange Server and when you new mail arrives it drops into you mailbox within seconds without your device even needing to come out of standby. You just hear the audio alert of email arriving (depending on your prefered settings).
I tried the least expensive paid Exchange Service from mail2web. It was only about 2 USD a month with no contract so I am not complaining. I personally didn't like that, for me, it incorrectly marked almost every single message as Spam and I could not adjust this adequately unless I upgraded to their most expensive Exchange offering... which costs about the same as other similar services.
I am trying out the 1 and 1 Exchange service at present. OK, not fantastic. Probably we should have a thread specially for a good email round up... likely there is one already and I should probably be posting there....
HTH
What you need is WM6 with Windows Live!
I have a Wizard running WM6... just got my XDA Orbit on O2, WM5 :-(
On WM6, the MSN service is replaced with Windows Live, and that allows you to configure a hotmail account to sync up automatically or at specific intervals.
You can do it in WM5 using the MSN messageger with an ID linked to your hotmail acocunt, but you have to be logged in to messgencger for it to work.
If anyone can extract the Windows Live component form a WM6 rom....
I recently tried another application from qore.
The idea is that you get your emails forwarded to a service that texts you when you get an email (in my case T-Mobile offers this service). The application intercepts this text (you receive no notification, it's all done in the background) and triggers a send/receive on the email account specified on your unit. In my case connecting via GPRS and downloading my emails.
sadly, it seemed to interrupt random texts and since it's done in the background, you don't even know that the text has been intercepted. I was getting angry phone calls from my mates asking why I hadn't replied to texts, that I hadn't even seen!!
Push Email
1. Register a Hotmail account and use the included Microsoft Pocket MSN software it works!
2. Register an account with http://www.consilient.com it's free and allows push mail from many services...
Hope this helps..
Two questions regarding email on my Dash (WM5 "Smartphone" (sic))...
1) How do I set a Reply-To: field so that my recipients send their email replies to another address ?
2) How can I delete all the emails in a given Dash email account without having to either delete the entire account and settings from the Dash, or having to manually select every email and hitting Delete ? I believe the PPC version of Outlook has this function (Clear).
Most decent email clients have these two functions readily available...
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Although i wish i could help, i cannot as im wondering the same thing you are. I kind of hate having to select and delete every since email i recieve.
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2) How can I delete all the emails in a given Dash email account without having to either delete the entire account and settings from the Dash, or having to manually select every email and hitting Delete ? I believe the PPC version of Outlook has this function (Clear).
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I found this tidbit on a Q site:
http://blogs.msdn.com/dennisq/archive/2006/08/29/730874.aspx
Its an add-on (Inbox Extended) to the SP Outlook email client implementing a "Mark all as read" and a "Delete all" functions. It looks promising ... Now to find a Reply-To solution...
Also I now have a question about FTP for the Dash... PIE works sorta... but produces strange "Improper Data Connection configuration error messages" after nearly every FTP command, even though the end result is correct, and it doesn't allow for prompting of username/password, which means you must enter these as part of the URL (very bad since it becomes a permanent history record). Any better solutions ?
WOW THANKS - been looking for this solution for awhile!
My manager who thinks I'm a TP2 expert sent me this, could you guys help me out with what to tell him? Im new to the phone myself, but I wanna give him the right info. THANKS to any who answer any question. Much appreciated.
Questions:
1. I use Outlook Mail on my laptop to manage my emails from multiple accounts (Verizon, 2 Gmail, one Yahoo). I do not use it via an exchange server. It’s basically the place where I pull in all my emails and from which I send out emails.
However, as such, it has more than 4000 items, many of them with attachments.
I obviously do not want my phone to sync with Outlook Mail if it means my phone will end up trying to hold all those emails
However, I do want to be able to use my phone to access those accounts AND in some instances be able to retain on my phone a copy of select emails that I will want to have access to when I don’t have my laptop with me (e.g. hotel reservations, etc.).
At present, it seems I can only do that if I keep the email on the server at V, G or Y. But is there some way that I can:
a) keep the email on the phone, independent of whether or not it’s on the server;
b) copy the addresses, text and links from the email and store them in another document somewhere else on the phone so they can be referenced and used?
2. I use Outlook Calendar for my calendar, task management, etc.. And in that sense I would like to be able to sync with the phone, make calendar entries on the phone (i.e. after a phone call or text message) and then have that sync with outlook later, etc., etc. How can I do that?
3. I also want to synch and cross enter contacts – how?
7. I get a new email. But when I tap on it to read it, I get a message telling me the text will be available the next time I download; but sometimes even after I hit s/r again, it still won’t open. Sometimes, when I clock on it it shifts to reply mode and in some of those cases I can see the email that was sent but the text of which I couldn’t see before. In other cases, that still doesn’t work. If I click reply, same split results. Odd. In any event, if the email has arrived, shouldn’t one be able to view the text the first time one tries to open it?
11. Can I delete an email from my phone without it deleting the email from the server?
I want to keep it on the server, but I don’t want to clutter up my phone with the email
sp8805 said:
My manager who thinks I'm a TP2 expert sent me this, could you guys help me out with what to tell him? Im new to the phone myself, but I wanna give him the right info. THANKS to any who answer any question. Much appreciated.
Questions:
1. I use Outlook Mail on my laptop to manage my emails from multiple accounts (Verizon, 2 Gmail, one Yahoo). I do not use it via an exchange server. It’s basically the place where I pull in all my emails and from which I send out emails.
However, as such, it has more than 4000 items, many of them with attachments.
I obviously do not want my phone to sync with Outlook Mail if it means my phone will end up trying to hold all those emails
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Yes, can sync with multiple pop/imap accounts
Can be set to download only last weeks or todays etc
However, I do want to be able to use my phone to access those accounts AND in some instances be able to retain on my phone a copy of select emails that I will want to have access to when I don’t have my laptop with me (e.g. hotel reservations, etc.).
At present, it seems I can only do that if I keep the email on the server at V, G or Y. But is there some way that I can:
a) keep the email on the phone, independent of whether or not it’s on the server;
Code:
Create a new sub folder in each accounts folder structure on the device and copy the mails for retention into these folders
b) copy the addresses, text and links from the email and store them in another document somewhere else on the phone so they can be referenced and used?
Code:
Copy and paste into word doc on the device
2. I use Outlook Calendar for my calendar, task management, etc.. And in that sense I would like to be able to sync with the phone, make calendar entries on the phone (i.e. after a phone call or text message) and then have that sync with outlook later, etc., etc. How can I do that?
3. I also want to synch and cross enter contacts – how?
Code:
Only sync your calendar not your mail with activesync
Contacts will be merged between PDA and PC
7. I get a new email. But when I tap on it to read it, I get a message telling me the text will be available the next time I download; but sometimes even after I hit s/r again, it still won’t open. Sometimes, when I clock on it it shifts to reply mode and in some of those cases I can see the email that was sent but the text of which I couldn’t see before. In other cases, that still doesn’t work. If I click reply, same split results. Odd. In any event, if the email has arrived, shouldn’t one be able to view the text the first time one tries to open it?
Code:
Configure the mail app to download entire message including attachments, not just headers
11. Can I delete an email from my phone without it deleting the email from the server?
Code:
Again options in the settings for the mail app on the PDA
I want to keep it on the server, but I don’t want to clutter up my phone with the email
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Advise you look into the detailed configs and get a better understanding of the settings available for mail on the PDA, all the features you want are available as standard.
Cheers,
Beasty
Hi All,
Say, if i do emails on my tp2, i send the email out and forget to bcc me, i forward the email to myself separately. I only get my signature without the full contents. Wondering if this is normal??
Is there any way we can configure the client or alternate programs to like pull emails like from 9am to 6pm instead?
Kinda like Nokia's default email client on e71s, i can choose when and how to download emails. And at the same time have an option to automatically send me a copy of the emails.
Thanks alot in advance or sorry if this is a stupid question..
EDIT: Is this a known thingy? Will wm 6.5 be addressing this issue?
1. When I forward mails, the entire message is included. I can think of 2 reasons why this isn't working for you.
a. You use Windows Live email (ie Hotmail) and you didn't toggle on the setting in Windows Live to include original message when replying/forwarding.
b. You've only set to download the email headers. You need to download the full message from the server before forwarding to include the whole message.
2. You can schedule your email push/pull between specific times of the day only if you use Windows Live or Exchange.
I know many people like to bcc themselves on all emails but you can just check the Sent folder as an alternative. I guess it's just a matter of preference...
My work email is primative pop3/smtp.. I'm using the default messaging on the htc touchflo3d, not the windows live.
Hmm.. i'll try the down entire message thingy..
Hi,
Have tried to use download entire email messages... still the same.. when i forward the email out.. it goes until only my signature.. does not forward the entire message
anymore ideas??
I was wondering that perhaps it may be because you're connecting via POP3. But this doesn't appear to be the case. I just tested setting up my Gmail account via POP3 and I can forward messages just fine.
After you tap on "Forward", you should be taken to a compose screen where you type in your recipients. If you scroll down, do you see the original message in full?
thats the thing... i can see the whole email in full.. theres teh "edit original sender's message" thingy...
but when i actually click send.. it only send out the portion i typed.. -.-
I have sent my phone in for service b4, updated software, hard reset... all the same... maybe i'll try my gmail and update again..
What happens if you tap the part thatt enables you to edit the original message before you send?
same ; ;
10chars
tested with Gmail and yahoo... by configuration, both uses imap on the client..
tested with my other personal email from isp... think i found a pattern..
If i forward from inbox.. everything ok..
If i forward from sent items... only what i type is sent...
i didnt test on imap.. deleted my account.. anyone got any observations??
any help??!?? ; ;
I had a couple of questions about my phone I was hoping you smart fellows could help me with.
1: I have a phantom SMS message. I deleted every message in every mail box, but the mail icon still says I have 1 unread message. My inbox shows no messages, but if I look at the folder tree, it has a (1) next to it.
2: I occasionally get an SMS error saying a message couldn't be sent. This message notification wont go away no matter how many times I click dismiss. The only way to get rid of it is to reset the phone.
3: I created mailboxes for my work account and gmail account on my phone. I then wanted to sync my phone to my PC. I set up outlook so it had both email accounts. I synced them and now I have 3 accounts on my phone. My work account is in there twice; once as "work" and once as "Outlook". This wouldn't be a big deal, except the "Outlook" copy only sends and receives when I sync it to my PC... which is really useless. Is there any way to make the "Outlook" box actually work with the phone's internet connection?
4: My work uses an LDAP online address book for contacts. It requires specifying a port, a login, and using SSL. Is this possible to configure the port and ssl? I found where to enter the server address and directory, but there seems to be no SSL/port options.
5: What's the deal with groups? You can set groups in the contact settings, but I haven't found out how to actually just contact a whole group. How do you send an email or text to a whole group?
Thanks.