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Root 1.32 or upgrade to 1.47 then Root?

The Phone is prompting me to upgrade to 1.47...I'm holding off. Which version should I root?

I had a question / thought about that too...but I didn't get that upgrade notification, is your phone rooted already?

Root the current version THEN update using a ROOTED rom from here DO NOT DO THE OVER THE AIR UPDATE

stangdriverdoug said:
The Phone is prompting me to upgrade to 1.47...I'm holding off. Which version should I root?
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Root 1.32. It's much, much easier to accomplish.

stang doug, this route is the best..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
It still puts ya at 2.1.. But really is solid.

This us a replacement phone....I was upgrading to a custom 2.2 from available and the phone bricked. I was lucky to get another one today. Just want to be carefully this time!
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Yes. Take the 47 ota so that your wimax updates correctly.
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Ok I did the update to 1.47...went smooth....I rooted from 1.47 before with no problem...one step at a time I guess...still can't believe I bricked the last one...ok so what's the best/easiest root method now with nand unlock? I fumbled my through it the first time...just want to make sure I know exactly what I'm doing this time.
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Sorry for my spelling before...I was trying to install avas official 2.2 and the phone bricked while installing the radio upgrade....was doing everything step by step too......
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Update: I rooted using Unrevoked 3, have clockwork mod recovery installed and just made a backup using nandroid. Am I basically ready to flash a custom ROM? Do I need to upgrade the radios first if going to 2.2?

stangdriverdoug said:
Update: I rooted using Unrevoked 3, have clockwork mod recovery installed and just made a backup using nandroid. Am I basically ready to flash a custom ROM? Do I need to upgrade the radios first if going to 2.2?
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Install the old hboot. If that doesn't make sense, get the simpleroot app and use that.
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I had trouble with Simpleroot. If i stick with this hboot version, will I have problems? Also I just succsesfully installed the latest Wimax and radio updates.

Follow a post in this forum that describes full root with nand unlocking using a more manual method.
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I did, but kept getting main version older while trying to update PC36IMG. Maybee I'm SOL. Should I not bother to download and flash custom roms?
I tried 3 root methods last night and I could only get unrevoked3 to work.

beatblaster said:
Root 1.32. It's much, much easier to accomplish.
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Not anymore.
netarchy said:
Part 1:
Code:
adb shell rm /data/local/rights/mid.txt
adb shell ln -s /dev/mtd/mtd1 /data/local/rights/mid.txt
adb reboot
Part 2:
Toast's Part 2, for nand unlock
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Just got simplerrot to work!!! So it reset my softwre to a earlier version, and flashed clockmod recovery. Question is do I need to reflash the wimax update? I allready am running the latest radio version. Don't want to brick this time!

Oh my bad. Looks like the radio and wimax reverted to earlier versions....is it ok to update thm to the current release? Still running the stock rom.

ok, dosen't look like I have root access...but I have access to nandroid?
Well I don't know if this is right but I used Simpleroot to revert the software and get the older version of HBOOT and used unrevoked to get root permission. Looks like rooted apps work, I can back and recover with nandroid, maybe some one can chime in to make sure I'm on the right track, still need to know if it's safe to upgrade the radio and wimax.
So here's where I sit:
baseband:1.36.00.04.02
Software: 1.17.651.1
PRI:1.34_.3
PRL:60662

Bump
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Revoked forever?

Looked for an answer before posting. When you use revoked on Dinc, after being rooted, do I have to use unrevoked forever to keep rooted?
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It depends on which Unrevoked you used. 3.1 would only root the phone. You'd have to use Forever to get s-off, which lets you root your phone on any future ROMs. 3.2 will do both. Pretty much every ROM you'd download from here is going to be rooted for you, with the exception of an RUU (or a rom.zip pulled from one), so it's not something to worry about unless you really want to go back to stock for something.

I rooted with unrevoked 3.2 so I guess I'm covered if I decide to use a different ROM. Thanks

I'm rooted and they just sent out a maintenance release. Can I do it?

I've heard that you can't do an ota firmware update if you're rooted (is this true?) If so, am I still able to do maintenance releases? Sprint just sent out a new one. http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/240535#240535
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If your rooted you never do a ota or yours losing root
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Never ever do an OTA, if you're rooted.
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That's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure >.> thanks!
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So the general consensus is not to do a OTA update if rooted because you will lose root.
OK, what if I dont mind losing root.
I am rooted (ive used the unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo method).
And I have never installed any custom ROMs.
(i.e. I am running on Stock. Not rooted Stock ROM! Just rooted Stock. Im not even sure if there is a difference but just wanted to say it so its clear.)
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.

newtonetienne said:
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
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That is based on the assumption that there will be a guaranteed method to regain root user access on the device. It could take hours, days, weeks, months, or even never.
I would recommend flashing the stock 3.70 update for root users here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
Now you still have the update, but you have retained root user access.

Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update (i.e. actually through update and not flashed) my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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newtonetienne said:
Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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novanosis85 said:
You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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Sorry novanosis85, i think my last post was a bit unclear.
I wanted to unroot, so I could apply the OTA update.
I guess I was trying to provide some feedback for others who may have similar questions like i did. Namely...
1. can I apply OTA when rooted? what i discovered was, "no" because the update process will discovery a custom recovery.
2. whats is required to be able to apply the OTA? s-on, and unroot procedure, then apply OTA. Update will indeed be applied but you will be unrooted.
Again, I hope this helps others.

dont dooo it! ull lose root

Wheres the guy with the zombie thread pic when you need him? I thought another ota was out
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Pc36img.zip

Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot. My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3. Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it. Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?

skennelly said:
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot. My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3. Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it. Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
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sorry. there is no root for 2.3.3 GB yet. Many are working on it, so hopefully that will change soon. I feel your pain as my phone broke and the replacement had GB on it already when I got it

skennelly said:
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot.
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Great device
My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3.
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Unrevoked is my preferred root method.
Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it.
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Why not? Is there not a flashable OTA update floating around these forums?
Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
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Why are you unrooting his device? If it's to get the OTA 2.3.3 update, wouldn't it be easier to flash a rooted stock froyo rom, go to the system update setting and then update? Of course, I'm assuming that is what you're trying to do so forgive me if I misunderstood your post.
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Ok, sorry for not being very informed. He tried to update to the ota but it failed. I assumed that it must be because the s-off since he hadn't done anything but tether.
He really has no need to be rooted because the only thing he wanted todo was tether. Now, I have turned the s-on, but the pc36img fails to update.
Is it safe to just check for/install the system up? Or does the phone need to be unrooted?

dougjamal said:
Great device Unrevoked is my preferred root method. Why not? Is there not a flashable OTA update floating around these forums?
Why are you unrooting his device? If it's to get the OTA 2.3.3 update, wouldn't it be easier to flash a rooted stock froyo rom, go to the system update setting and then update? Of course, I'm assuming that is what you're trying to do so forgive me if I misunderstood your post.
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Can he do this with s-on? If not, how can I turn it back off?
Last, could you provide a link to a stock rooted rom I could flash?

skennelly said:
Can he do this with s-on? If not, how can I turn it back off?
Last, could you provide a link to a stock rooted rom I could flash?
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If you already have S-On, all you need to do is flash the ruu that coincides with software 3.70 or 3.29. You can download any of the ruus for the EVO by clicking on the RUU link in my signature. Also, there's a link to rooted stock roms in my link, as well.
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dougjamal said:
If you already have S-On, all you need to do is flash the ruu that coincides with software 3.70 or 3.29. You can download any of the ruus for the EVO by clicking on the RUU link in my signature. Also, there's a link to rooted stock roms in my link, as well.
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Awesome! Thank you very much. I'm on my phone now, so I'll check it out when I get to my laptop.

Before you do something you will regret, go back and use unrevoked asap. Get back to S-off. If you turn S-on, and then take the update, you can not go back at the moment.
Flash a stock rooted gingerbread rom...

lil_bono said:
Before you do something you will regret, go back and use unrevoked asap. Get back to S-off. If you turn S-on, and then take the update, you can not go back at the moment.
Flash a stock rooted gingerbread rom...
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Honestly, my bro-in-law doesn't need root. Here I am trying to fix his problem. I've spent more time on this than I should. I mod my X, but the evo confuses me some.
Are you saying he can take the ota rooted, with s-on?

You need S-Off for permanent root and ability to flash custom ROMs. So before you take the OTA for him, as long as the phone is 2.2, run Unrevoked once again and install AmonRa.
Does he even like Sense? I would suggest trying one of the setups from my sig, or even MIUI if he doesn't need 4G.
You could have S-On and get the OTA, which would make his phone unrootable and boring, or you could just root back and flash a ROM with better battery life (I hear that Calkulin's works great, but so do other ROMs)
Before you do anything, try showing him pictures of MIUI, SalvageMod, MikG or another ROM and ask what he likes best.
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Oh, and he would need a custom ROM with tethering unlocked for the ability to tether for free. And he would need S-Off to put that ROM on.
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skennelly said:
Honestly, my bro-in-law doesn't need root. Here I am trying to fix his problem. I've spent more time on this than I should. I mod my X, but the evo confuses me some.
Are you saying he can take the ota rooted, with s-on?
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I understood from your earlier post that your brother-in-law didn't need root and thus the reasons for the answers I gave. Yes, he can accept the OTA while S-ON and he will indeed upgrade his device to 2.3.3, however, should he wish to unroot afterwards, he won't be able to until an exploit can be found. I take it your friend isn't the type of person who flashes roms, mods, kernels and such.
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skennelly said:
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot. My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3. Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it. Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
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check your hboot version and S off status
if its hboot 2.16 and S on, you are boned since you unrooted it when you took the gb update
so basically...dont tell your friend that you screwed his chances to root yourself lol
the correct route would have been to flash with a rooted stock GB ota wich was already out there, but its too late now : /
welcome to the "wait for root" boat with us, leave your bags by the door you will be here a while

tropicalbrit said:
Oh, and he would need a custom ROM with tethering unlocked for the ability to tether for free. And he would need S-Off to put that ROM on.
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you can thether without being rooted
download pdanet app on phone and on pc you want to tether on
hotspot requires root or paying sprint though

I really appreciate everyones help, don't get me wrong. However, I'm sitting here doing all this research and trying to get help for my in-law who thought he needed root and wanted to tether. He doesn't even use tether. I'm not showing him any custom roms. He lives three hours away and i'd be doing all his leg work/fixing his problems.
All I want to do (and him as well) is get him to gb stock unrooted and be done with his phone.
So, if the s-on is on, but the su app is still in the app drawer, and the pc36img.zip failed. If he selects settings>about phone>check for updates, will this get him to gb?
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Yes, he should be able to do as you stated above and be updated to 2.3.3?
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Thank you
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S On but still rooted

About two weeks ago I was going to unroot my EVO but I changed my mind, but I had gotten as far as turning my s On. But it's still rooted I have since changed roms and downloaded root only apps does that need to be off? and that its still on will it mess up anything or charge me for hot spot? And if so how do I turn it off? When I turned it back on I was running froyo 4.5 now I'm running Mikk G 2.5
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If you want to regain s-off, it's simple. Download the unrevoked forever zip & flash it through recovery. Having s-on will prevent you from flashing unofficial PC36IMG zips through hboot, and possibly keep certain apps from working properly.
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If you have S-On but a custom ROM you are fine. Use your hotspot for free
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dogbeanbags83 said:
About two weeks ago I was going to unroot my EVO but I changed my mind, but I had gotten as far as turning my s On. But it's still rooted I have since changed roms and downloaded root only apps does that need to be off? and that its still on will it mess up anything or charge me for hot spot? And if so how do I turn it off? When I turned it back on I was running froyo 4.5 now I'm running Mikk G 2.5
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In order to unroot you need to RUU the phone. either the PC36IMG.zip or the RUU.exe which ever you did the first step which was the s-on patch now you need to complete the process by ruu'ing back to stock....
edit: sorry I obviously didn't fully read your question... just flash unrevoked s-off patch to gain back s-off but everyone is right your fine

Thanks for all the info guys it is greatly apprehended