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[Q] Stock recovery with s-off?

Now that s-off is out and we don't need the PB31IMG.zip to be signed by HTC, is there a zip that will flash the stock recovery but leave everything else intact?
Thanks.

tchebb said:
Now that s-off is out and we don't need the PB31IMG.zip to be signed by HTC, is there a zip that will flash the stock recovery but leave everything else intact?
Thanks.
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Why do you wasn't the stock recovery? You won't be able to do a nandroid.

I know. I want to have the 2.2 update as soon as it's out because I no longer have to worry about losing root permanently, but I don't really want to have to go through configuring everything again.
EDIT: Could I just take the stock PB31IMG.zip and remove everything but the recovery?

this is a good question. lots of people are wanting to do the ota thinking that since they have s-off they will still have root / custom recovery. we should set up a guide for everyone who is planning on doing this. personally I will just wait for a modified rom to be released... will probably come out before the ota hits anyway.

As I understand it:
Flash the stock recovery using the attached file.
Install the OTA like normal.
Use this image from Unrevoked to put ClockworkMod back on.
If the OTA removed root and busybox, put busybox on the SD card, then use this update.zip from here to restore root.
EDIT: I made a PB31IMG.zip to flash only the stock recovery. I'm attaching it here. I HAVE tested this on my phone.

you think the ota is going to allow custom recovery and root?
i'm skeptical but that would be nice.

It was my impression that with s-off we could use a PB31IMG.zip with HBOOT to put on whatever recovery we wanted regardless of anything the OTA does, and once we have a custom recovery on, we can make an update.zip with su and Superuser.apk.

tchebb said:
As I understand it:
Flash the stock recovery using the attached file.
Install the OTA like normal.
Use this image from Unrevoked to put ClockworkMod back on.
If the OTA removed root, use this update.zip from here to restore root.
EDIT: I made a PB31IMG.zip to flash only the stock recovery. I'm attaching it here. I HAVE tested this on my phone.
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Wont we still be missing busybox if we follow this.

tchebb said:
As I understand it:
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EDIT: I made a PB31IMG.zip to flash only the stock recovery. I'm attaching it here. I HAVE tested this on my phone.
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I flashed this, and have the stock recovery.. but the phone still boots to CM6... How to I get the OTA?

Phlarp said:
I flashed this, and have the stock recovery.. but the phone still boots to CM6... How to I get the OTA?
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Sorry, I should have clarified. This is not for people who have flashed a new ROM, it is JUST the stock recovery for people who have Clockwork and want to be able to flash the radio. Without s-off, these people would have had to flash the HTC-signed PB31IMG.zip, wiping everything on their phone. Anyone who wants to go back to stock 2.1 and get the OTA will still have to flash the official HTC one, which WILL remove CM6 and wipe all data. You can get the HTC-signed one here.

wpbear said:
Wont we still be missing busybox if we follow this.
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You are, of course, right. I'll update my post.

One thing I'm still worried about is that HTC might give us a new HBOOT without s-off in the OTA. What is the procedure for getting the URL of the update files once we are offered the OTA?

Ping: tchebb - Question about your stock recovery file
Can you tell me how you created your stock recovery "PB31IMG.ZIP" file?
It contains two files: recovery.img & android-info.txt
Were these files output from a compiler? I want to know how you made this ZIP file, if I may...
Thanks!

Lexus One said:
Can you tell me how you created your stock recovery "PB31IMG.ZIP" file?
It contains two files: recovery.img & android-info.txt
Were these files output from a compiler? I want to know how you made this ZIP file, if I may...
Thanks!
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All I did was take the standard android-info for the incredible and zip it up with the recovery.img from the HTC signed PB31IMG.ZIP.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

tchebb said:
All I did was take the standard android-info for the incredible and zip it up with the recovery.img from the HTC signed PB31IMG.ZIP.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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Thank you sir. I'm learning. I was curious about the android-info.txt file, and why the infomartion appears as it does in the file. You called it "standard" for the incredible. See below:
modelid: PB3120000
cidnum: VZW__001
mainver: 3.17.605.0 - comment: Just FYI, my DInc build is different: 3.16.605.0
hbootpreupdate:3
This will work with any *.img file that I choose to include in a PB31IMG.ZIP file? Do you think there will ever be a situation where these numbers would be different (for the DInc)? I ask because I'm still not sure what their purpose is in flashing. Do you know? I assume the bootloader needs them for some reason.

All I did was take the standard android-info for the incredible and zip it up with the recovery.img from the HTC signed PB31IMG.ZIP.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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Thank you sir. I'm learning. I was curious about the android-info.txt file, and why the infomartion appears as it does in the file. You called it "standard" for the incredible. See below:
modelid: PB3120000
cidnum: VZW__001
mainver: 3.17.605.0 - comment: Just FYI, my DInc build is different: 3.16.605.0
hbootpreupdate:3
This will work with any *.img file that I choose to include in a PB31IMG.ZIP file? Do you think there will ever be a situation where these numbers would be different (for the DInc)? I ask because I'm still not sure what their purpose is in flashing. Do you know? I assume the bootloader needs them for some reason.
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I don't know what these mean, but I believe they will always be the same for any IMG on the Incredible.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

tchebb said:
I don't know what these mean, but I believe they will always be the same for any IMG on the Incredible.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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That helps. Thank you!

tchebb said:
As I understand it:
Flash the stock recovery using the attached file.
Install the OTA like normal.
Use this image from Unrevoked to put ClockworkMod back on.
If the OTA removed root and busybox, put busybox on the SD card, then use this update.zip from here to restore root.
EDIT: I made a PB31IMG.zip to flash only the stock recovery. I'm attaching it here. I HAVE tested this on my phone.
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I have been trying to use the above referenced recovery image to restore the stock recovery and it doesn't seem to be working.
I installed unrevoked forever to set S-OFF and then placed the above file in the root of my SD card, booting into recovery and trying to flash the image just returns me to the ClockworkMod menu.
How can I reinstall the original stock recovery?

skymoo said:
I have been trying to use the above referenced recovery image to restore the stock recovery and it doesn't seem to be working.
I installed unrevoked forever to set S-OFF and then placed the above file in the root of my SD card, booting into recovery and trying to flash the image just returns me to the ClockworkMod menu.
How can I reinstall the original stock recovery?
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You do not flash this image from clockwork. Put it on the SD root, boot into HBOOT, and wait about 5 seconds. It will then ask you of you want to apply the update. Press volume up to install.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

tchebb said:
You do not flash this image from clockwork. Put it on the SD root, boot into HBOOT, and wait about 5 seconds. It will then ask you of you want to apply the update. Press volume up to install.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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I tried that but it's not asking me if I want to apply the update, a message flashes by very quickly that I barely have time to read. Something like "No image or wrong Image" and then it returns to the HBOOT menu.

I think i lost root

I lost root...i cant get to recovery, i cant get rom manager to work or super user. or term emu...blah blah blah...i did the recent OTA from HTC and it went into recovery. i get a phone with a red triangle and exclamation point. ...i need to re-root dont I?

Pauper7 said:
I lost root...i cant get to recovery, i cant get rom manager to work or super user. or term emu...blah blah blah...i did the recent OTA from HTC and it went into recovery. i get a phone with a red triangle and exclamation point. ...i need to re-root dont I?
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How did you root originally? Shouldnt of done OTA with root. Can you get into your hboot? S-off or S-on? If S-on then you would prolly have to reroot.

S-OFF. Thanks for the reply. So, with s-off, where do I go from here?
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Pauper7 said:
S-OFF. Thanks for the reply. So, with s-off, where do I go from here?
Sent from my EVO using XDA App
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You can flash Amon RA or Clockwork recovery from the bootloader and then flash the superuser zip from recovery.

Noxious Ninja said:
You can flash Amon RA or Clockwork recovery from the bootloader and then flash the superuser zip from recovery.
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Ya with S-off your still rooted prolly just lost your recovery and superuser permissions.

Follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790394

PC36IMG stock rooted?

does any one know where i can find a stock PC36IMG.zip that is rooted for the latest ota

http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.

dkdude36 said:
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.
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Aren't those completely stock and not rooted?
If you want a stock rooted PC36IMG, your best bet would be the Sprint Lovers ROM. It's about 99.9% stock and comes as a PC36IMG.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

I know for a fact that these are rooted versions of the 3.70 OTA because I have personally flashed both the ODEXED and DEODEXED versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.

oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.

jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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lol....It's all good, my friend.
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dkdude36 said:
oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.
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I'm usually the one guilty of missing something....lol....Whew! I feel better now........I'm just having fun, my friend.
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lol. yea i should read better man so dissapointed...

thanks for the help, sprint lover rom it is

I highly recommend you download and flash the stock ODEXED 3.70 rom listed in the link I provided earlier if you want "exactly" the rom you had when you purchased your EVO (rooted, of course).
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Do I need to install one of these to complete an OTA update?
jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?

artie-chimney said:
I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?
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you need s-on and to unroot.

Thanks
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?

artie-chimney said:
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?
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yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.

dkdude36 said:
yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.
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...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

A few more questions
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...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
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Ahhh... So I won't be able to be rooted and use the OTA update for now? I thought I could unroot, install the update, and root again.
I don't use any custom ROMs. Heck, I haven't even changed the original wallpaper. I rooted just for Wireless Tether, Titanium Backup and to use the Root Uninstaller to get rid of the pre-installed apps I didn't want.
I really appreciate the help. I am less confused about the process now, but more confused about aligning my technical goals with what I want to do with my phone.

No. If you unroot and install the OTA, you cannot root again. There is no method yet.
You're best bet is to stay rooted and flash the Stock/Rooted ROM

Unable to root new 2.3 OTA Update?

I RUU'd my phone to stock so I could check out the new update. Trying to reroot using unrevoked and I am getting "failed to flash recovery image" I followed all the steps...
has anyone else been able to root this?

This what I kept telling people...don't do that. Unrevoked won't work on it because it hasn't been updated to work with the new OTA, though it should happen soon. You should have waited for the rooted rom, which would be out sometime today, Virus is already on it. For now, you're stuck.
Have you tried looking at the bootloader? Does it show s-off? I doubt it worked, but in the event it did, all you would have to do is flash a PC36IMG of a recovery in the bootloader.

Stuke00 said:
I RUU'd my phone to stock so I could check out the new update. Trying to reroot using unrevoked and I am getting "failed to flash recovery image" I followed all the steps...
has anyone else been able to root this?
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Epic Fail.

lol unrevoked has not came up with new version of root for last ota. dude it just came out yesterday try diffident methods

teh roxxorz said:
This what I kept telling people...don't do that. Unrevoked won't work on it because it hasn't been updated to work with the new OTA, though it should happen soon. You should have waited for the rooted rom, which would be out sometime today, Virus is already on it. For now, you're stuck.
Have you tried looking at the bootloader? Does it show s-off? I doubt it worked, but in the event it did, all you would have to do is flash a PC36IMG of a recovery in the bootloader.
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Yeah I know
Another root method maybe?
Or I guess I could just RUU back again and not update?

Stuke00 said:
Yeah I know
Another root method maybe?
Or I guess I could just RUU back again and not update?
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RUUing to an older version of what you have could brick your phone. The new update has a new bootloader so you are pretty much screwed until somebody comes up with a way to root it.

If he was actually thinking properly it wouldn't matter. If he had S-Off then just flashed the Amon Ra in recovery then he will have Recovery Back and can Flash ANY ROM he Desires.
RUU'ing back to stock doesn't turn S-Off back to S-On
But if he Didn't i would advise Running the Old RUU then using unrevoked, then unrevoked forever but unrevoked3 has unrevoked forever built into it then you can update to the new rom and reflash amon ra or clockwork over to have recovery back then when a Odexed or DeOdexed rom comes out flash it

tgruendler said:
Epic Fail.
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Nope not really. I love to play around and try things out for myself. Best way for me to learn things. No big deal if I don't get root right now. I'll figure out something.

kingakuma said:
if he was actually thinking properly it wouldn't matter if he had S-Off then just flashed the Amon Ra in recovery then he will have Recovery Back and can Flash ANY ROM he Desires.
RUU'ing back to stock doesn't turn S-Off back to S-On
But if he Didn't i would advise Running the Old RUU then using unrevoked, then unrevoked forever but unrevoked3 has unrevoked forever built into it then you can update to the new rom and reflash amon ra or clockwork over to have recovery back then when a Odexed or DeOdexed rom comes out flash it
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I do have S-OFF still.

Successfully flashed Amon_RA recovery Going to see if I can flash roms now.
Thanks for the tip!

You're welcome, i hope that makes things easier

Stuke00 said:
Successfully flashed Amon_RA recovery Going to see if I can flash roms now.
Thanks for the tip!
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Well I guess you're lucky then. Try flashing a rom, that should set you on the right path.

Stuke00 said:
I RUU'd my phone to stock so I could check out the new update. Trying to reroot using unrevoked and I am getting "failed to flash recovery image" I followed all the steps...
has anyone else been able to root this?
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All I can say to this is No ****, Sherlock......
GOD DAMN there are a lot of nitwits on here that don't read before they jump off and do something

Odexed and Deodexed uploading as we speak
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701

Wait, what - SPRINT released the 2.3 OTA update? I can restore back to stock and get the update now?

Wifflepig said:
Wait, what - SPRINT released the 2.3 OTA update? I can restore back to stock and get the update now?
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Just flash the rooted version... although like everyone else, you'll probably update OTA anyway thinking it's easier and run into the same problems as everyone else.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

I didn't believe it, but you guys called it, threads popping up with people complaining about losing root.

HipKat said:
All I can say to this is No ****, Sherlock......
GOD DAMN there are a lot of nitwits on here that don't read before they jump off and do something
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Lot of ignorant people too apparently. I knew the consequences and possibilities. And I was also able to get my root back. And I learned some new things. Not everything has to be so negative

DarthBelan said:
I didn't believe it, but you guys called it, threads popping up with people complaining about losing root.
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I actually wasn't complaining. I was asking if anyone had success rooting the 2.3 update. I could have been doing something wrong or missed a step.
Thanks for your feedback!

DarthBelan said:
I didn't believe it, but you guys called it, threads popping up with people complaining about losing root.
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Why would someone with 7 posts, that's been a member for a few days want to believe people who read and post here everyday and stay on top of things???

Make LCD Incredible S-On

I have an LCD Incredible with radio version 2.15.10.07.07 and I'm trying to return it back to stock so I can sell it to a friend. I have already flashed the stock unrooted ROM (PB31IMG.zip) and it gave me back the stock recovery, I read that I should flash unrevoked-forever-son.zip via CWM but my radio isn't on the supported list and I don't want to brick the device. What should I do?
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Go here and flash the 7.28 Froyo radio http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=18 that should do the trick. This is assuming you flashed the Froyo RUU.

I flashed the Gingerbread image, I didn't use the RUU because I was having problems connecting.

I believe you can still flash the Froyo radio. If not just flash the Froyo Ruu, you can also get the PB31IMG file for it at pvillcomp.com. Then flash the 7.28 radio. If you do this, the phone should receive the OTA gingerbread update.

Thanks, that's what I figured. I just downgraded to Froyo to be on the safe side.
Edit: I just flashed the S-On zip via CWM and was curious if it would replace CWM with the stock recovery, it didn't. So now I have a phone with S-On and CWM, what should I do?

Go here, grab the stock recovery and flash it in Hboot. I'm not sure if you will have to reroot first or not. Give it a shot and let me know.

brando56894 said:
Thanks, that's what I figured. I just downgraded to Froyo to be on the safe side.
Edit: I just flashed the S-On zip via CWM and was curious if it would replace CWM with the stock recovery, it didn't. So now I have a phone with S-On and CWM, what should I do?
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You should be able to run the PB13IMGwhatver zip again and it will give you the Stock Recovery and Stock Rom.
My advice would be to run the newest Gingerbread Stock PBIMG so as to not have to downgrade, then boot, then download OTA, then run that and so on. Simply flash one PBIMG and be over with it
Hope this helps....

Yea, I figured that's probably what I could do. I downloaded the stock recovery and tried to flash it but it wouldn't go. HBoot detected it but never asked me if I wanted to apply it.

brando56894 said:
Yea, I figured that's probably what I could do. I downloaded the stock recovery and tried to flash it but it wouldn't go. HBoot detected it but never asked me if I wanted to apply it.
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Thats because your s-on now. S-off is what enables us to flash radios and custom recoveries like clockwork. You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.

cmlusco said:
Thats because your s-on now. S-off is what enables us to flash radios and custom recoveries like clockwork. You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.
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Not entirely. I've had 2 HTC heros and 3 HTC evos both with s+on straight from start and theyre all rooted with custom roms. I had an evo shift with s-on but it died on me.
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KyoceraEchoHax said:
Not entirely. I've had 2 HTC heros and 3 HTC evos both with s+on straight from start and theyre all rooted with custom roms. I had an evo shift with s-on but it died on me.
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s-off / on is not the same as root. A phone can be rooted and still be s-on. However the only way to flash an unsigned file thru hboot on the incredible is with s-off. As far as i know htc has never officialy released a signed recovery only file. So in order to get the stock recovery while s-on you would have to use a signed ruu. Thats all i was trying to say.

cmlusco said:
s-off / on is not the same as root. A phone can be rooted and still be s-on. However the only way to flash an unsigned file thru hboot on the incredible is with s-off. As far as i know htc has never officialy released a signed recovery only file. So in order to get the stock recovery while s-on you would have to use a signed ruu. Thats all i was trying to say.
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This man speaks the truth!

cmlusco said:
You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.
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This is what I tried to flash but it didn't give me any option to update it.