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I've been looking at the root folder using Astro and there are several files/folders. Can any be deleted, without causing any problem? I'm running out of space and am hoping some are just temporary files etc...
For example I've spotted the APK files are in \system\app. I never use the Peep or Teeter apps. Can I safely delete their APK files?
Thanks
p.s - I am using an unrooted HTC Desire.
bradavon said:
I've been looking at the root folder using Astro and there are several files/folders. Can any be deleted, without causing any problem? I'm running out of space and am hoping some are just temporary files etc...
For example I've spotted the APK files are in \system\app. I never use the Peep or Teeter apps. Can I safely delete their APK files?
Thanks
p.s - I am using an unrooted HTC Desire.
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you cant delete them using astro, we only have write access to /system in recovery, use adb in recovery to delete them
edit, without root you cant delete anything lol
bradavon said:
For example I've spotted the APK files are in \system\app. I never use the Peep or Teeter apps. Can I safely delete their APK files?
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In addition, deleting anything from /system won't actually gain you any more space for applications anyway due to the way that the filesystems are partitioned.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks guys. I take it you mean we've got write but not modify access to the \system folder? So we can write to existing files but not delete them.
I wasn't just asking about \system though but any files/folders in the Root folder. Are there any at all, that can be safely deleted? Or are you saying you cannot delete a thing without rooting?
Not that it sounds like it will make any difference, due to partitioning.
Thanks
Ok to put it as simple as possible:
- no you cant pretty much delete a thing apart from sd without root
- we cant do anything in the system partition while the system is booted due to the nand protection
- we can modify /system while in recovery (using adb)
- when you are running out of space it is on the /data partition, which have a fixed size so deleting from /system or anything else won't help
And at last my advice to you is to go root and install a2sd easy as pie and i've never had space problems since.
Thanks for the informative reply mortenmhp
I have just rooted my 2.1 Desire, trying to remove two of the mms.apk and one other mms file in the /system folder so I can install a different mms.apk, however when I try to do it, it says I dont have the proper permissions. Its rooted, I see the Super User icon in applications.
Any suggestions?
Please read a little before asking questions. It is commonly known, that we dont have full root access on the desire yet.
Due to the nand protection you cant edit the system partition while the system is bootet. You have to use a custom recovery image either via fakeflash or installed by unrevoked. Then you can edit the system partition by using adb commands.
Edit: which i also stated quite clearly 2 posts above yours several months ago
Is A2SD better than the Android 2.2 implementation? Which as far as I can tell just moves the APK (not apps/data) to the SD Card.
Thanks.
Well it is kinda off topic here but in my opinion yes it is better. I'm running a2sd+ atm. and you can make it move /data/data as well.
In froyo there have been some complications though when remountingSD after using it as mass storage. But you can read more about that elsewhere(i would provide a link but I'm writing from my phone)
So the conclusion must be that it is down to personal preferences
Thanks because the official implementation is something of a cop out. On WM you could run the entire App/Data etc... on an SD card.
Rooted using Unrevoked. Have Root Explorer installed and Titanium. I know the system apps are in the folder: System/Apps When using Root Explorer I don't have the options. To uninstall the apps bit I can delete them. However, after deleting them the programs are still there. Same thing happens when I try to do it with Titanium. Is there something I'm overlooking?
System Apps do not get installed/uninstalled. Deleting them is all you need to to. However, since it appears you are still running the stock ROM you need to make sure you delete the corresponding odex file too.
I only had the stock ROM for about a day before I rooted and installed a different ROM (which was deodexed). BUT, I recall reading that both files need to be deleted.
I suggest that instead of deleting the files place them in a backup folder just in case you might need them later on. As mentioned before you must move the APK and its associated ODEX file if it has one. Sprint applications tend to be updated so uninstall the updates then move the Sprint applications using the aforementioned method.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G. EVOke (v.) - Summon into action or bring into existence, often as if by magic.
so i have to move the sprint apk files and odex files (if applicable) before I can delete them? I already tried deleting them w/o backing them up or changing their location but they keep coming back!
SantinoInc said:
so i have to move the sprint apk files and odex files (if applicable) before I can delete them? I already tried deleting them w/o backing them up or changing their location but they keep coming back!
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Are you mounting the apps folder with "rw" privileges before deleting?
Yes, I am. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong. I swear to god these ****ing apps come right back after I reboot the phone. I delete them with Titanium and/or Root Explorer and after a little while they pop up again. I have no idea what is going on. I rooted with Unrevoked 3.21...maybe something didn't go right?
I also can't get BusyBox to install which is a major pain in da ass because so many apps need it
Probably I missed this question being answered somewhere, but I am tired of searching for it, so here it goes...
I decided not to root my device for now, and I am trying to get the most of it with stock limitations. Generally it is fine, but what bothers me most is the fact that i seem to be unable to write any files on phones internal memory. Is it so, that all / filesystem is inaccessible for write, or is there a dir where i could store some files i would like my phone to be able to access while sdcard is unmounted?
I may be wrong but thats the limitations of a "stock" phone,if you want access to the files you would have to root AFAI
That's exactly the impression I have, and I don't like the idea. I'm ex WM5/WM6 user, and I simply cannot understand why can't I have let's say /tmp/ dir just for myself...
banannq said:
That's exactly the impression I have, and I don't like the idea. I'm ex WM5/WM6 user, and I simply cannot understand why can't I have let's say /tmp/ dir just for myself...
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Any reason for not rooting then? there are plenty stock roms/alternatives out there.
I grown tired of constantly tweaking my previous htc smartphone, decided to keep this one stock at least for now. I know rooting is an open door I will not want to close
and also I think there's no rooting method for gingerbread so far, is there?
As much as I know a downgrade is involved,I know what you mean about tinkering with the phone!It gets obsessive at times
You should have access to /data/local or at the very least /data/local/tmp
That's where fiels get pushed for rooting.
-Nipqer
The problem is I cannot even open /data directory
How are you trying to access the /data folder?
Cause if its some file manager app, some of them will only read sdcard.
-Nipqer
I'm used fre3vo to get temproot on my device (Z, Android 2.3.3),
and after that called:
mount -o remount,rw -t ext3 /dev/block/mmcblk0p25 /system
i can write to /system, but after reboot or remount into readonly all my changes dissapearing. Should i need S-OFF on my device? Can i get S-OFF without rollback to v1.34 on temp rooted 2.42?
Yeah the emmc is write protected when you are s-on, so any changes to /system will dissappear on reboot.
Unfortunately you cannot get s-off without downgrading to 1.34.
-Nipqer
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How are you trying to access the /data folder?
Cause if its some file manager app, some of them will only read sdcard.
-Nipqer
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Normaly I use total commander for android, but tried also ES File explorer, Linda manager, andexplorer... all of them basicaly let me view / folders (with exception of /data, /root, /cache etc) so i think it is filesystem condition rather than file manager fault...
banannq said:
Normaly I use total commander for android, but tried also ES File explorer, Linda manager, andexplorer... all of them basicaly let me view / folders (with exception of /data, /root, /cache etc) so i think it is filesystem condition rather than file manager fault...
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try root explorer. you can still view directories without root (the app will just tell you that it failed to request superuser access). I'm pretty sure everything under /data is r/w access by default. My phone is rooted so I can't verify whether or not you can write to that directory on stock (I'd assume you could as long as there's free space available) but I can definitely recall being able to look at all my directories on stock using root explorer.
sephiroth1439 said:
try root explorer. you can still view directories without root (the app will just tell you that it failed to request superuser access). I'm pretty sure everything under /data is r/w access by default. My phone is rooted so I can't verify whether or not you can write to that directory on stock (I'd assume you could as long as there's free space available) but I can definitely recall being able to look at all my directories on stock using root explorer.
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I guess it doesn't matter what software i use android simply locks me out of internal phone memory. It sucks, because phone was advertised as having over 1GB of internal storage space (no mention about it being inaccessible), and i can't even store ringtones on my device (have to use sdcard, and suffer side effect of it being unmounted at times). What a shame... with all the greatness, android sucks at very simple things
banannq said:
I guess it doesn't matter what software i use android simply locks me out of internal phone memory. It sucks, because phone was advertised as having over 1GB of internal storage space (no mention about it being inaccessible), and i can't even store ringtones on my device (have to use sdcard, and suffer side effect of it being unmounted at times). What a shame... with all the greatness, android sucks at very simple things
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Don't blame Android for your carrier locking down your device
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
So root explorer doesn't let me delete system apps...anybody else?
Also I tried root tools with no success.... I'm on aokp jb with super su I updated binary and nothing . Root explorer let's me mount r/w but says delete failed...any suggestions?
sent from my aokpeed jellybeamed S2 & what?!
jaestreetss said:
So root explorer doesn't let me delete system apps...anybody else?
Also I tried root tools with no success.... I'm on aokp jb with super su I updated binary and nothing . Root explorer let's me mount r/w but says delete failed...any suggestions?
sent from my aokpeed jellybeamed S2 & what?!
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Bad flash do it again... I had the same issue updated everything and nothing helped til I rebooted wiped and reflashed rom.
Or try to install superuser and see what happens
I was reading somewhere that if you restore a backup the permissions or something get screwy and the only known fix is to re-flash the rom. it sucks
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Thanxx guys....just got home gonna try to install su again being that super su gives me an option to clean up the binaries to install regular su.
If anything I'm downloading Aokp again just in case.
sent from my aokpeed jellybeamed S2 & what?!
Had the same issue. I had to reflash. This occured after a Nandroid backup for me.
Have to re-flash, I had the same issue, I did not realize I was on a Nandroid backup. Just do a fresh re-flash and you should be good to go. All of my probs with this are posted in the themes area, they are in the Android pissing on Apple boot animation thread =)
Hello,
I rooted my X10 mini and still can't delete stock apps from the system folder. The root explorer shows R/W but when I try to delete a .apk it says "Delete failed".
I'm not very confortable with flash or re-flash (stock ROM). Can you help me?
I had the same problem, I fixed it by going from CWM 5.x.x to CWM 6.x.x
Try using Titanium Backup.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
Thank you for the replies.
I was able to uninstall stock apps (Neoreader, Office suite, ...) through Titanium Backup.
Refugado said:
Hello,
I rooted my X10 mini and still can't delete stock apps from the system folder. The root explorer shows R/W but when I try to delete a .apk it says "Delete failed".
I'm not very confortable with flash or re-flash (stock ROM). Can you help me?
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Remember, you can't delete a file that is IN USE, ie; system files. You need to freeze/disable them first THEN delete them! Watch what you delete though, some files are needed, some files that you least suspect, and will cause problems if you delete them.
Bluntified said:
Remember, you can't delete a file that is IN USE, ie; system files. You need to freeze/disable them first THEN delete them! Watch what you delete though, some files are needed, some files that you least suspect, and will cause problems if you delete them.
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I'm experiencing something similar.
I have root on stock os but recovered from nandroid.
I can create folders, files, rename, edit text etc on some directories, yet I am unable for others.
I am trying to undrestand if this is because of
1) Nandroid backup
2) files are in use and I cannot edit or create folders in those directories?
I am trying to create folders and edit files in the /sys directory.
mikoal said:
I'm experiencing something similar.
I have root on stock os but recovered from nandroid.
I can create folders, files, rename, edit text etc on some directories, yet I am unable for others.
I am trying to undrestand if this is because of
1) Nandroid backup
2) files are in use and I cannot edit or create folders in those directories?
I am trying to create folders and edit files in the /sys directory.
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Are you using the 'Root Explorer' app to do this? If not, I suggest you get that from the Play store first. Secondly, make sure the "root privileges" are enabled in Superuser for the app.
If you have already done what I mentioned and still occur problems, may I ask what folders in the 'sys directory' you are trying to change? As majority of the files/folders you are seeing in that folder are there for a reason and named accordingly for your phone to utilize that directory and keep the phone working.
FineTalent said:
Are you using the 'Root Explorer' app to do this? If not, I suggest you get that from the Play store first. Secondly, make sure the "root privileges" are enabled in Superuser for the app.
If you have already done what I mentioned and still occur problems, may I ask what folders in the 'sys directory' you are trying to change? As majority of the files/folders you are seeing in that folder are there for a reason and named accordingly for your phone to utilize that directory and keep the phone working.
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I am using root explorer app.
I have root privileges as well. The phone is rooted and permission is granted to RE
i was trying to change or create a new folder for the CPU states because my cpu spy wasn't reading any cpu states (which is another problem im facing).
1) With root privileges am I suppose to be able to create folders in any directory? I seem to be able to create/rename/edit files only in some directories. I seem to have the option to mount as r/o and r/w only on certain folders. The other folders defaulted to mount as r/w. I've also changed permission on the folders as well.
2) Why can't my BBS and CPU Spy read my cpu states, but can only read it when i enter in with my SetCPU app?
mikoal said:
I am using root explorer app.
I have root privileges as well. The phone is rooted and permission is granted to RE
i was trying to change or create a new folder for the CPU states because my cpu spy wasn't reading any cpu states (which is another problem im facing).
1) With root privileges am I suppose to be able to create folders in any directory? I seem to be able to create/rename/edit files only in some directories. I seem to have the option to mount as r/o and r/w only on certain folders. The other folders defaulted to mount as r/w. I've also changed permission on the folders as well.
2) Why can't my BBS and CPU Spy read my cpu states, but can only read it when i enter in with my SetCPU app?
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Unless you know the exact name and which sub-directory to place the folders to link with the apps you have mentioned, I suggest you do not add or modify anything.
The apps such as CPU Spy utilizes your phones kernel to determine what your usage is. What kernel are you using for your phone? Maybe flashing a new one would help.
I'll look in to the issue more and post any other solutions if I find any. Good luck!
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Unless you know the exact name and which sub-directory to place the folders to link with the apps you have mentioned, I suggest you do not add or modify anything.
The apps such as CPU Spy utilizes your phones kernel to determine what your usage is. What kernel are you using for your phone? Maybe flashing a new one would help.
I'll look in to the issue more and post any other solutions if I find any. Good luck!
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1) I understand that its not too safe to mess around anyhting in that directory. But.....can regular rooted users with RE edit that folder? If so, its a problem I'm experiencing. If not, then probably because that folder is in use. When I enter /sys, its mounted as r/w but there is no option for me to change it to r/o.
2) Everything is stock. I understand that CPUSpy may not work on certain custom roms, but what about stock?
Kernel version:
3.0.8-20120814-user
[email protected]#1
SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 14 10:16:58 KST 2012
Thanks again
mikoal said:
1) I understand that its not too safe to mess around anyhting in that directory. But.....can regular rooted users with RE edit that folder? If so, its a problem I'm experiencing. If not, then probably because that folder is in use. When I enter /sys, its mounted as r/w but there is no option for me to change it to r/o.
2) Everything is stock. I understand that CPUSpy may not work on certain custom roms, but what about stock?
Kernel version:
3.0.8-20120814-user
[email protected]#1
SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 14 10:16:58 KST 2012
Thanks again
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1) i think i figured it out. i dont think we have access to the /sys directory. its for kernels.
2) but i still dont know why the cpuspy isn't working
mikoal said:
1) i think i figured it out. i dont think we have access to the /sys directory. its for kernels.
2) but i still dont know why the cpuspy isn't working
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The app may not be compatible with a stock ROM/kernel. Hopefully someone else on a stock ROM can help you confirm that.
That's a possibility.
However do you know why or how I can get cpu spy to work after I use set cpu?
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That's a possibility.
However do you know why or how I can get cpu spy to work after I use set cpu?
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I've never needed to use CPU Spy as SetCPU is more than enough, so I apologize if for not being able to answer that question. It just seems like a compatibility issue with what you are currently using, nothing for you to be worried about.
I started this for several reasons.
1) For those who have deleted some system/app(s) & want to manually restore to get ready for the KK ota.
2) /persist dilemma. It is only on our phone yet both recoveries allow you to format it but do not back it up!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48941876&postcount=2061
3) /firmware Also not backed up. Both recoveries format it. But Rsd lite will restore it.
I put some very obscure folders here & they may never be needed! DO NOT GO & restore these just because I attached them! If it ain't broke don't fix it!
Get the full zip here http://batakang.com/ftp/?dir=devs/mhous33/XT907/98.30.1
It is the largest one there!
You can extract even a single system/app with Explorer free & paste it with es file to get OTA ready
But some /partitions are only on the phone. Some are created on boot
1 folder not ANYWHERE BUT ON YOUR PHONE is /persist.
Persist permissions are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589790
Some wonder why Vzw does not want us rooting?
/Firmware is in the xml/fxz.
/System/app
/Vendor
/Firmware
/System/media.... stock boot animation/Dst animation.
Use Rom Manager fix perms for now. It has never failed me. Set them to all. Then run RM>fix permissions & reboot.
Permissions & ownership need to be set before use.
Rom Manager fix permissions is one good reason to have that app even if it did not WORK on our M, but it does.
Updated op.
So apps from "Data/App" can be deleted and still get the OTA, just don't delete apps from "System/App", is that correct?
VannMann said:
So apps from "Data/App" can be deleted and still get the OTA, just don't delete apps from "System/App", is that correct?
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You got it.
You, Sir, are the greatest. Have been wondering about this. Finally got root, so I deleted the amazon and some verizon apps fron "Data/App". Thanks!!
VannMann said:
You, Sir, are the greatest. Have been wondering about this. Finally got root, so I deleted the amazon and some verizon apps fron "Data/App". Thanks!!
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2 things
1)You don't want to "delete" data apps & no need to root to uninstall them. Settings, apps, downloaded, select.... 2)Also the ones you mention sound like system apps?
I deleted them from the Data/App, so they would not be in my app drawer. And all of my system apps are still there, just looked.
Didn't think about disabling them, I got root happy, been to long without it, lol.
aviwdoowks said:
I started this for several reasons.
1) For those who have deleted some system/app(s) & want to manually restore to get ready for the KK ota.
2) /persist dilemma. It is only on our phone yet both recoveries allow you to format it but do not back it up!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48941876&postcount=2061
3) /firmware Also not backed up. Both recoveries format it. But Rsd lite will restore it.
I put some very obscure folders here & they may never be needed! DO NOT GO & restore these just because I attached them! If it ain't broke don't fix it!
Get the full zip here http://batakang.com/ftp/?dir=devs/mhous33/XT907/98.30.1
It is the largest one there!
You can extract even a single system/app with Explorer free & paste it with es file to get OTA ready
But some /partitions are only on the phone. Some are created on boot
1 folder not ANYWHERE BUT ON YOUR PHONE is /persist.
Persist permissions are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589790
Some wonder why Vzw does not want us rooting?
/Firmware is in the xml/fxz.
/System/app
/Vendor
/Firmware
/System/media.... stock boot animation/Dst animation.
Use Rom Manager fix perms for now. It has never failed me. Set them to all. Then run RM>fix permissions & reboot.
Permissions & ownership need to be set before use.
Rom Manager fix permissions is one good reason to have that app even if it did not WORK on our M, but it does.
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So is there a package with all the system app .apks somewhere in this mess of links lol, sorry for I'm guessing a very obvious question
Delerios said:
So is there a package with all the system app .apks somewhere in this mess of links lol, sorry for I'm guessing a very obvious question
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Dl #9 systemAPP!!!