hello all. this is my first time ever setting foot in the incredible threads. im currently a roooted eris user, but recently upgrading to the incredible due to eris's limitations. i should be recieving one in the mail today hopefully. i have a few quick questions for you guys and im hoping i can get answers today or at least before i start rooting my phone.
1) can titanium backup restore all my apps + data and configurations, that were backed up on my eris without any issues?
2) which rom is the best so far? i was enjoying cm 6.0 port on my eris but i prefer sense now because im not much of a fan of stock vanilla look.
I do enjoy the 360 degree rotation and was wondering if anyone has created a sense based rom with that particular feature or does cyanogen have a monopoly on that one?
3) does metamorph work on the incredible? and are these roms available now currently themable
4) which is the most preferred kernel? ive read so far about hydra kernel and kingx, what are the advantages each have over the other
5) in case of a necessary warranty exchange attempt, is there an ota based ruu rom available to restore the original bootloader? in other words is it unrootable as of yet? (eris users are currently able to do this.)
Oh and i forgot to ask.
6) is the 2.2 ota released for upgrade or are the 2.2 roms available right now leaks?
iflip said:
hello all. this is my first time ever setting foot in the incredible threads. im currently a roooted eris user, but recently upgrading to the incredible due to eris's limitations. i should be recieving one in the mail today hopefully. i have a few quick questions for you guys and im hoping i can get answers today or at least before i start rooting my phone.
1) can titanium backup restore all my apps + data and configurations, that were backed up on my eris without any issues?
2) which rom is the best so far? i was enjoying cm 6.0 port on my eris but i prefer sense now because im not much of a fan of stock vanilla look.
I do enjoy the 360 degree rotation and was wondering if anyone has created a sense based rom with that particular feature or does cyanogen have a monopoly on that one?
3) does metamorph work on the incredible? and are these roms available now currently themable
4) which is the most preferred kernel? ive read so far about hydra kernel and kingx, what are the advantages each have over the other
5) in case of a necessary warranty exchange attempt, is there an ota based ruu rom available to restore the original bootloader? in other words is it unrootable as of yet? (eris users are currently able to do this.)
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1) Most likely not, while just restoring apps should work, apps+data may bring about problems because they are different phones. don't quote me tho. (My advice make a nandroid before you restore apps+data then if you get FC'cs you'll see something went wrong and can go back)
2) The most popular ROM on this forum seems to be Skyraider, it has both a sense and vanilla version. There are 3 more fairly popular ones on ROM manager, I advise you to test them all out they all have their own flair.
3) Yes, check out the theme's section for more info on that.
4) Both kernels work well, it's all a matter of what you're happiest with. I'm not sure of the specific differences of both tho, so maybe someone else can answer that.
5) If you use Unrevoked3 you can RUU back to stock yes. If you use Unrevoked forever (which is S-off) there is currently no way to get S-on. So you would just have to hope if you turned it in for warranty that the guy didnt check the bootloader.
6) Most 2.2 ROM's right now are based off a leak released here on 8/1/2010. There is no official 2.2 release for the Incredible.
*Insert the usual plug for posting in Development instead of General/Q&A*
Welcome to the Incredible Forums tho!
-Flawless
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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Gingerbread
Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.
I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.
Hello all;
I would like to return to a stock ROM. I don't want to un-root, I just want HTC Sense back. Where can I get a stock ROM or what Sense ROM would you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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There are a bunch of Sense roms in the dev section. Pretty much anything from Sense 2.1 to 3.5 Take a look and read the user responses
I'm in the same boat as the OP.
Please understand xda vets - someone rooting for the first time is very confused by all these acronyms, version numbers, etc. It's very overwhelming. I looked at the Inc2 dev section and it's like reading Sanskrit. I tried searching but people must use different terminology because my results weren't relevant to my question.
I just received a new Inc2 and all I want is a basic Sense rom that removes all of Verizon's bloatware. The phone has 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1. I'm really just looking for a stable rom. Just want to keep it simple for now.
Can someone recommend one?
I'd like to know as well. With my Droid X I could just SPF with RSD Lite and go back to an official original ROM, unrooted.
I haven't found any info on how to do this with my Incredible 2.
I doubt I would ever want to un-root and go back, but if for some reason I need to return the phone or trade it in, it would be nice to be able to go back to the phone's stock rom, un-rooted.
try Skyraider Zeus is very stable everything works,
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161411
Stock minus bloat.
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Hey Guys, i´m coming from the desire z and got few small questions.
1. someone told me there´s no need to root the device, is that right or not?
2. do i need a kind of dev-bootloader?
3. which recovery is the best? / does the ext4 recovery exist for the nexus? really liked to work with it
4. got o2(germany), is there any recommended radio?
5. are there big differences between the roms? which one would u take? i personally would take cm9, because i used cm7 on my desire z, but e.g. android revolution got a lot of clicks, why do so many people prefere it?
for the moment, these are the questions that are in my mind, think in 2 days it´s gonna arrive, just wanted to make sure everything can ben realised as fast as possible when my new phone arrives
thanks in advance
no one an idea?
L-ViZ said:
Hey Guys, i´m coming from the desire z and got few small questions.
1. someone told me there´s no need to root the device, is that right or not?
2. do i need a kind of dev-bootloader?
3. which recovery is the best? / does the ext4 recovery exist for the nexus? really liked to work with it
4. got o2(germany), is there any recommended radio?
5. are there big differences between the roms? which one would u take? i personally would take cm9, because i used cm7 on my desire z, but e.g. android revolution got a lot of clicks, why do so many people prefere it?
for the moment, these are the questions that are in my mind, think in 2 days it´s gonna arrive, just wanted to make sure everything can ben realised as fast as possible when my new phone arrives
thanks in advance
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1. There are definite benefits to unlocking the bootloader and rooting. And if you ever had to, you can go back to stock. The great thing about the Galaxy Nexus is how very hard it is to truly brick, but dont try
2. No, unlocking the bootloader is actually pretty simple. You will need Android SDK and the drivers installed on your computer
3. I prefer Clockwork Mod Recovery. Because its the most popular, it is also what most instructions are for
4. You will just have to read through some of the GSM radio threads. Updating to 4.0.4 is probably all you need though.
5. Yes there are difference between ROMS. I am currently using AOKP Milestone 4. CM9 is certainly great with a lot of feature. ARHD is more to the stock feel. Its not going to have as many feature as AOKP, CM9, or Gummy, but it is a very smooth ROM. Honestly it just comes down to what you like in the feature list.
If you have any questions on how to do any of this there are detailed, near fool-proof, instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442184
L-ViZ said:
1. someone told me there´s no need to root the device, is that right or not?
2. do i need a kind of dev-bootloader?
3. which recovery is the best? / does the ext4 recovery exist for the nexus? really liked to work with it
4. got o2(germany), is there any recommended radio?
5. are there big differences between the roms? which one would u take? i personally would take cm9, because i used cm7 on my desire z, but e.g. android revolution got a lot of clicks, why do so many people prefere it?
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Guude
1) Depends on what you wanna do with the phone. Mine is rooted
2) Not really
3) I would use CWM. Works perfect and is very popular
4) I always used the radio coming with the installaled Rom. And had no problems at all.
5) At the moment i use Gummy Rom. Tried Cm9 a few nightlies ago, but actually i like gummy more. Still some bugs (camera doesn`t work properly, but 3rd party cam apps do so i don`t care) and the battery life is great. Overall performance is also very good.
thank you for your answeres gonna check the roms
newbie here to all this..
last week I finally rooted my DHD to turn s-on to s-off and after days of reading post after post I finally got it done, anyway whilst doing this it has now downgraded my phone software to an older version. 2.3.3 sense 2.1
can someone point me in the right direction to where I can download the stock updated rom for this phone or is there a custom rom that's even better than the stock one that I could use.? ive been looking in the Android Development section but there's way too many to go through & I don't want anything to fancy just stock HTC looking will do just great.. plus I don't want to run the risk of bricking the phone as im very new to this sort of thing so can do without trying different roms out as I was happy with the HTC look of the phone... and is it easy to upgrade as its taken me near on a week of reading to find the b*lls to root it.. LOL
thanks for any help..
BaRoN
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BaRoN30s said:
newbie here to all this..
last week I finally rooted my DHD to turn s-on to s-off and after days of reading post after post I finally got it done, anyway whilst doing this it has now downgraded my phone software to an older version. 2.3.3 sense 2.1
can someone point me in the right direction to where I can download the stock updated rom for this phone or is there a custom rom that's even better than the stock one that I could use.? ive been looking in the Android Development section but there's way too many to go through & I don't want anything to fancy just stock HTC looking will do just great.. plus I don't want to run the risk of bricking the phone as im very new to this sort of thing so can do without trying different roms out as I was happy with the HTC look of the phone... and is it easy to upgrade as its taken me near on a week of reading to find the b*lls to root it.. LOL
thanks for any help..
BaRoN
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Best thing if you want Stock ROM is Android Revolution HD, BEST stock based ROM (Sense 3.0, 2.3.5 Gingerbread)
Although you might like to experiment with other Android versions, like AOSP (exactly as Google intended it), AOKP (slightly modified), CyanogenMod (Different thing altogether) or even MIUI (if you like the iPhone's simplicity)
Does anyone have a working link to a stock EVO 4G stock ROM that can then be used to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever? I've been searching around here and the Internet in general, but I'm having trouble wading through the sea of dead links to stock ROMs and links to ROMs that have been hacked to remove radios and whatnot.
I've been using the last good Evervolv JB ROM and it's just too unstable, and my radios and stuff are probably out of date too, so I'd like to try going back to stock for a while.
Note regarding root: It would be nice to be able to keep root, but not if it means having to use stock ROMs that have been modified to the point where it will be a pain to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever. I can always re-unroot myself if needed.
Thanks!
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Does anyone have a working link to a stock EVO 4G stock ROM that can then be used to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever? I've been searching around here and the Internet in general, but I'm having trouble wading through the sea of dead links to stock ROMs and links to ROMs that have been hacked to remove radios and whatnot.
I've been using the last good Evervolv JB ROM and it's just too unstable, and my radios and stuff are probably out of date too, so I'd like to try going back to stock for a while.
Note regarding root: It would be nice to be able to keep root, but not if it means having to use stock ROMs that have been modified to the point where it will be a pain to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever. I can always re-unroot myself if needed.
Thanks!
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I'm looking for the exact same thing... I'd like to go back to the stock HTC Sense ROM, but I've lost my old backup copy (long story) and having trouble finding a suitable replacement. Did you happen to save a backup of your stock ROM before switching to the Evervolv ROM? If so, could you send me the Zip?
Or, if anyone out there on the forum could help, that would be great.
I was hoping to get some benefit to a more recent version of Android, but all the ROM's I've tried thus far seem to have one glitch after another. I'd prefer to go back to a stock, or some slightly upgraded version of the SENSE IU. Any suggestions appreciated.
I downloaded this ROM as it looked like a good "SENSE-esque" ROM, and looks like most everything is working on this version.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?12344-ROM-5-09-12-New!!The-Express!!-Updated!!-Working4G!!-Full-Landscape-Sense-3-0-Aroma-Installer!!&p=203943#post203943
Thoughts?
I don't have a backup of my stock ROM as far as I know.
I really wanted something close to stock, so I think I ended up settling on [Rom]TN_Elousions3.2_OTA_5.07.651.6_Deoxed_Stock_Theme.zip which is a moderate mod of the last stock ROM.
I ended up going through the S-OFF process as well to make sure that I had the latest radios and such.
It's functional, but between the Sense changes and the fact that it's Gingerbread-based means that there are some things about the UI that just aren't as nice as Evervolv. The upshot is that the battery consumption is lower and the hardware features work or work better (4G, FFC, camcorder, FM radio, etc.).
I'm tempted to try one of the last official Cyanogen ROMs just to see if I like the UI better than Sense, but I'll probably just stick it out until I get a new phone.